Wikiquote is a sister project of Wikipedia, using the same MediaWiki software. It is one of a family of wiki-based projects run by the Wikimedia Foundation. Based on an idea by Daniel Alston and implemented by Brion Vibber, the goal of the project is to produce collaboratively a vast reference of quotations from prominent people, books and proverbs, and to give details about them. Initially the project was created in English, but in July 2004, more languages were added: * English language http://en.wikiquote.org/ * Bulgarian language http://bg.wikiquote.org/ * Chinese language http://zh.wikiquote.org/ * Dutch language http://nl.wikiquote.org/ * German language http://de.wikiquote.org/ * French language http://fr.wikiquote.org/ * Polish language http://pl.wikiquote.org/ * Italian language http://it.wikiquote.org/ * Japanese language http://ja.wikiquote.org/ * Korean language http://kr.wikiquote.org/ * Romanian language http://ro.wikiquote.org/ * Spanish language http://es.wikiquote.org/ * Tamil language http://ta.wikiquote.org/ * Thai language http://th.wikiquote.org/ * Afrikaans language http://af.wikiquote.org/ * Portuguese language http://pt.wikiquote.org/ * Turkish language http://tr.wikiquote.org/ * Hebrew language http://he.wikiquote.org == History == * June 27, 2003 - Temporary put on the wolof language wikipedia: wo.wikipedia.com * July 10, 2003 - Own subdomain: [http://quote.wikipedia.org/ quote.wikipedia.org] * August 25, 2003 - Own domain: [http://wikiquote.org/ wikiquote.org] * July 17, 2004 - New languages added * November 13, 2004 - English edition reaches 2000 pages. * November, 2004 - 24 languages == Logos == To date, Wikiquote has had four logos. The original logos contained the following quotations: ::''And the trouble is, if you don't risk anything, you risk even more.'' :::(Erica Jong, (born 1942) United States author and educator — [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Erica_Jong More quotes from Jong]) :''I don't know anything about music. In my line you don't have to.'' ::(Elvis Presley (1935 — 1977); United States singer — [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley More quotes from Presley])
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== Domain registration == Anybody want to go ahead and reserve http://wikiquote.org and http://wikiquote.com for the Wikimedia Foundation? I would but my partner won't let me buy any more URLs for Wikimedia. --User:Maveric149 21:31 10 Jul 2003 (UTC) :Nevermind. Jimbo just bought both of the domains. --mav ==Meta== I moved this to the Wikipedia: namespace following our general policy that just because you have a website, doesn't mean we have to have an article on your website. That's why ''goatse.cx'' was moved to shock site, why we weren't going to keep yoism just because it had a website, and why lots of articles on obscure websites have been deleted. Consider that Wikipedia has had press coverage - wikiquote has not. Consider the google test - [http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wikiquote+-wikipedia google:wikiquote -wikipedia]: 2 hits, which turn out not to be talking about the wikiquote site. It can be moved back if/when it becomes famous. User:MyRedDice 23:19, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC) : Wikipedia is officially part of the Wikimedia foundation and thus automatically inherits fame, reputation and verifiability from it. It could be integrated into the Wikimedia article for lack of content, but I see no good reason to move it into the meta namespace.User:Eloquence 00:34, Aug 2, 2003 (UTC) ::I must say, this page is rather stubly (still); do you think we should merge it into Wikimedia or somewhere, unless/until there's more to say? - User:IMSoP 19:57, 18 May 2004 (UTC) ==Removing quotes from Wikipedia?== Hi, one thing is not yet clear to me: Is Wikipedia about to loose it's quotations? Do we just COPY or do we MOVE the existing quotes? User:Fantasy 13:31, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC) :I would suggest to copy them, unless there are many in one article. - User:Patrick 11:51, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: You don't want to remove a single defining quote of a person from their Wikipedia article. At the same time, we want to avoid duplication between Wikiquote and Wikipedia if we can. How about for each article we copy all the quotes to Wikiquote, and then possibly leave one or two quotes on Wikipedia? Also, what do we do with pages that are all quotes, such as the proverb pages? Do we just move them all to Wikiquote, and leave links on the Proverb page itself to them? (And a single External link on each of the individual proverb pages as a kind of redirect?) User:Nanobug 12:29, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::In answer to part of the question, I think for most articles (i.e. people, books, movies, plays, tv) then all the quotes should be put on wikiquote, with no more than three remaining on wikipedia, and links between the two pages. Which reminds me, there is no way to interlink with wikiquote yet. - fagan My question even goes in two directions: Do we copy then the Wikiquote-Articles into Wikipedia as well? User:Fantasy 12:26, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) : What Wikiquote articles? Or do you mean all of them? (i.e. close down Wikiquote altogether and merge it into Wikipedia) User:Nanobug 12:29, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: No, just, if you add quotes to Wikiquote, you can add the quote to Wikipedia as well. I would expect in Wikipedia at least one famous quote of famous people, not all of them (they can be in Wikiquote), but some. I think, in the end Wikipedia will contain an extract (the best of) Wikiquote. User:Fantasy 21:48, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) ==Where is Wikiquote?== I have not been able to load up Wikiquote for almost a month now. Is it defunct? User:68.11.112.42 03:06, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC) Course not, it's up at quote.wikipedia.org or wikiquote.org or whatever you like. (user info would go here if i rememberd how to do it) == Korean Wikiquote == It says that Korean Wikiquote should have a URL of http://kr.wikiquote.org however, it seems like Wiki has reserved that area for Kanuri language? KR is official postfix (is that what you call it?) for South Korea. But Kanuri? just wondering. and where is Korean one then? WJK == Date founded? == When was the project first set up? User:Messedrocker 00:28, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
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''General discussion about the use of this template should appear on Wikipedia talk:Sister projects. Please only use this talk page for discussing the specifics of this template.'' ==Wording== I think "collection of quotations" would read better than "collection of quotes". Anyone else? User:Hajor 15:40, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) It looks ugly. Can't we shorten it by saying "Quotes from Bob Smith" or just "Bob Smith" or something? The logo already identifies it as wikiquote.--User:GD 18:35, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) Something like that over there? Lighter on the eye without the bold type. User:Hajor {| border="0" width="35%" cellpadding="5" class="noprint" style="float:right; border:solid #008 2px; margin:0em 0em 0.5em 0.5em; width:35%;" |- | |wikiquote: on Wikiquote |}
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of this (\"Quotes by Bob Smith\"): {| border=\"0\" width=\"35%\" cellpadding=\"5\" class=\"noprint\" style=\"float:right; border:solid #008 2px; margin:0em 0em 0.5em 0.5em; width:35%;\" |- | |wikiquote: |} The logo already says it's wikiquote. The redundancy is unneeded. --User:GD 21:52, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) The logo itself is not sufficiently explanatory and easily ignored by text-oriented people. I strongly oppose the non-bold version, it looks very ugly in a serif font. As for "from vs. by", keep in mind that the template is also used on pages about books and movies.--User:EloquenceUser:Eloquence/CP : We need the project name in the template, so that the name is indexed by Google. -- user:zanimum ===Please let's delete the link to Wikiquote=== I agree with User:GD. Please let's delete the link to theWikiquote article. It doesn't make sense for several reasons:
# It is distracting. I bet a million to one that any reader of the Bob Smith article will be more interested in Bob's quotes than in a Wikipedia article describing a wiki based project, which is unrelated to Bob Smith.
# It is misleading. If Jane Doe wants to read Bob Smith's quotes and clicks on the first best link in the box she is led to the wrong article.
# It creates hundreds (and soon thousands) of irrelevant links from all Bob Smiths in the world – see Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Wikiquote.
# If Jane wants to find out what Wikiquote is, she has many ways to do so on Wikiquote itself already. In fact, the link to Bob Smith's quotes already is an excellent demonstration, using an example she cares about.
# If we really want to draw traffic to the Wikiquote article, it would be more forthright to do so with a link on the Wikiquote Main Page.
# Googlebombing can not be a serious reason for imposing something that readers don't want!
User:SebastianHelm 03:09, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC)
==Discussion moved from Village pump==
I see that the template to find what's available, what they do, how to use them, etc.?
(I have to say that, with labels that don't match where you're going, and the going in circles, and the inconsistent descriptions of going to the same places, if this set of pages & links were a user interface design, it would flunk. But that's the frustration speaking.)
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:Are you looking for Template:Wikiquote? I didn't look too closely there for info about how to use it, but there's a discussion page and a history page so you could contact contributors directly if no one responds on the discussion page. User:Bkonrad 17:16, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::Yup, that's what I was looking for. Thanks. I guess the hint should be listed somewhere to "try Template:nameofthingie" if it's not in any of the lists--I just didn't think about doing that and assumed it would be in one of the lists. User:Elf | User talk:Elf 17:23, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:::The current development version of MediaWiki gives you a list of all templates used on a page when you edit it.--User:EloquenceUser:Eloquence/CP 19:38, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
''End moved discussion''
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== How people shoud find this template? ==
*Regarding Wikipedia:List of templates see Wikipedia talk:List of lists#Templates. [[User:Gangleri|:Gangleri | :Gangleri | [ Th]]] 02:43, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)
== Bolding ==
I think that the page name should be bolded, since people will usually want to read about that rather than about wikiquote. I'll change it on wikiquote also. If anybody has a problem with this, feel free to revert, but please leave a note here! Thanks. -User:Frazzydee|User_talk:Frazzydee">User:Frazzydee|User:Frazzydee|User talk:Frazzydee 03:08, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:Ah, I just noticed that pagename is ''italisized'' in the wiktionary template. Personally, I don't have a preference for bolding or italics...I'll leave it bolded for now, but whether it's bold or italics, it still gives emphasis, and that's what I was trying to accomplish. -User:Frazzydee|User_talk:Frazzydee">User:Frazzydee|User:Frazzydee|User talk:Frazzydee 03:11, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
== Why the anchor text should be bigger than just PAGENAME ==
The current wikiquote link template says "Wikiquote has a collection of quotations by or about **PAGE NAME**.", where only the text enclosed in asterisks is actually linked to the wikiquote page. It's a fairly standard HTML convention, IMHO, that the anchor text should do a maximally clear job of describing what exactly it links to. One of the more common (and more obnoxious) violations of this is the wide-spread habit of using "click here" as the anchor text.
This case is somewhat more subtle, but I still think it's worth correcting. Since what's being linked to is specifically the collection of quotations by or about foo rather than foo itself in any sense of the word, I believe it's better to use that entire phrase (a collection...PAGE NAME) as the anchor text. It might be slightly less visually aesthetic, but I think it conveys the meaning of the link much better, and requires less effort by a user since the clickable area is wider.
If you feel otherwise, please explain here. User:Zyqqh 23:38, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
: Your solution was no better because now almost all of the texts is a link. I'm going to revert to a version which worked well. -- User:Netoholic User talk:Netoholic 01:48, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)
:: What is wrong with most of the text being a link, especially given that the effectively sole function of this template is to direct a user to another URL, which is accomplished by, unsurprisingly, a link? The only extra information conveyed is that the page linked to is part of another site, but most users clicking on this template will presumably be primarily interested in the link itself rather than the larger collection its part of. User:Zyqqh 02:24, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
::: Wikipedia:Manual of Style Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Free links -- User:Netoholic User talk:Netoholic 01:49, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)
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The amount of white space looks excessive to me (on 800 px wide display): see
George Eliot for an example. I have just added
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Wikiquote is a sister project of Wikipedia, using the same MediaWiki software. It is one of a family of wiki-based projects run by the Wikimedia Foundation. Based on an idea by Daniel Alston and implemented by Brion Vibber, the goal of the project is to produce collaboratively a vast reference of quotations from prominent people, books and proverbs, and to give details about them. Initially the project was created in English, but in July 2004, more languages were added: * English language http://en.wikiquote.org/ * Bulgarian language http://bg.wikiquote.org/ * Chinese language http://zh.wikiquote.org/ * Dutch language http://nl.wikiquote.org/ * German language http://de.wikiquote.org/ * French language http://fr.wikiquote.org/ * Polish language http://pl.wikiquote.org/ * Italian language http://it.wikiquote.org/ * Japanese language http://ja.wikiquote.org/ * Korean language http://kr.wikiquote.org/ * Romanian language http://ro.wikiquote.org/ * Spanish language http://es.wikiquote.org/ * Tamil language http://ta.wikiquote.org/ * Thai language http://th.wikiquote.org/ * Afrikaans language http://af.wikiquote.org/ * Portuguese language http://pt.wikiquote.org/ * Turkish language http://tr.wikiquote.org/ * Hebrew language http://he.wikiquote.org == History == * June 27, 2003 - Temporary put on the wolof language wikipedia: wo.wikipedia.com * July 10, 2003 - Own subdomain: [http://quote.wikipedia.org/ quote.wikipedia.org] * August 25, 2003 - Own domain: [http://wikiquote.org/ wikiquote.org] * July 17, 2004 - New languages added * November 13, 2004 - English edition reaches 2000 pages. * November, 2004 - 24 languages == Logos == To date, Wikiquote has had four logos. The original logos contained the following quotations: ::''And the trouble is, if you don't risk anything, you risk even more.'' :::(Erica Jong, (born 1942) United States author and educator — [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Erica_Jong More quotes from Jong]) :''I don't know anything about music. In my line you don't have to.'' ::(Elvis Presley (1935 — 1977); United States singer — [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley More quotes from Presley])
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[[Image:Wikiquote1logo.png|thumb|left|133px|''Original Wikiquote Logo'', used from June 27, 2003 - September 25, 2003]] [[Image:Wikiquote2logo.png|thumb|left|133px|''Second Wikiquote Logo, an improved version of the first'' Used until September 26, 2003]] [[Image:Wikiquote3logo.png|thumb|left|135px|''Third Wikiquote Logo'' Used until October 22, 2003]] |
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== Domain registration == Anybody want to go ahead and reserve http://wikiquote.org and http://wikiquote.com for the Wikimedia Foundation? I would but my partner won't let me buy any more URLs for Wikimedia. --User:Maveric149 21:31 10 Jul 2003 (UTC) :Nevermind. Jimbo just bought both of the domains. --mav ==Meta== I moved this to the Wikipedia: namespace following our general policy that just because you have a website, doesn't mean we have to have an article on your website. That's why ''goatse.cx'' was moved to shock site, why we weren't going to keep yoism just because it had a website, and why lots of articles on obscure websites have been deleted. Consider that Wikipedia has had press coverage - wikiquote has not. Consider the google test - [http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wikiquote+-wikipedia google:wikiquote -wikipedia]: 2 hits, which turn out not to be talking about the wikiquote site. It can be moved back if/when it becomes famous. User:MyRedDice 23:19, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC) : Wikipedia is officially part of the Wikimedia foundation and thus automatically inherits fame, reputation and verifiability from it. It could be integrated into the Wikimedia article for lack of content, but I see no good reason to move it into the meta namespace.User:Eloquence 00:34, Aug 2, 2003 (UTC) ::I must say, this page is rather stubly (still); do you think we should merge it into Wikimedia or somewhere, unless/until there's more to say? - User:IMSoP 19:57, 18 May 2004 (UTC) ==Removing quotes from Wikipedia?== Hi, one thing is not yet clear to me: Is Wikipedia about to loose it's quotations? Do we just COPY or do we MOVE the existing quotes? User:Fantasy 13:31, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC) :I would suggest to copy them, unless there are many in one article. - User:Patrick 11:51, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: You don't want to remove a single defining quote of a person from their Wikipedia article. At the same time, we want to avoid duplication between Wikiquote and Wikipedia if we can. How about for each article we copy all the quotes to Wikiquote, and then possibly leave one or two quotes on Wikipedia? Also, what do we do with pages that are all quotes, such as the proverb pages? Do we just move them all to Wikiquote, and leave links on the Proverb page itself to them? (And a single External link on each of the individual proverb pages as a kind of redirect?) User:Nanobug 12:29, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::In answer to part of the question, I think for most articles (i.e. people, books, movies, plays, tv) then all the quotes should be put on wikiquote, with no more than three remaining on wikipedia, and links between the two pages. Which reminds me, there is no way to interlink with wikiquote yet. - fagan My question even goes in two directions: Do we copy then the Wikiquote-Articles into Wikipedia as well? User:Fantasy 12:26, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) : What Wikiquote articles? Or do you mean all of them? (i.e. close down Wikiquote altogether and merge it into Wikipedia) User:Nanobug 12:29, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: No, just, if you add quotes to Wikiquote, you can add the quote to Wikipedia as well. I would expect in Wikipedia at least one famous quote of famous people, not all of them (they can be in Wikiquote), but some. I think, in the end Wikipedia will contain an extract (the best of) Wikiquote. User:Fantasy 21:48, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC) ==Where is Wikiquote?== I have not been able to load up Wikiquote for almost a month now. Is it defunct? User:68.11.112.42 03:06, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC) Course not, it's up at quote.wikipedia.org or wikiquote.org or whatever you like. (user info would go here if i rememberd how to do it) == Korean Wikiquote == It says that Korean Wikiquote should have a URL of http://kr.wikiquote.org however, it seems like Wiki has reserved that area for Kanuri language? KR is official postfix (is that what you call it?) for South Korea. But Kanuri? just wondering. and where is Korean one then? WJK == Date founded? == When was the project first set up? User:Messedrocker 00:28, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
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''General discussion about the use of this template should appear on Wikipedia talk:Sister projects. Please only use this talk page for discussing the specifics of this template.'' ==Wording== I think "collection of quotations" would read better than "collection of quotes". Anyone else? User:Hajor 15:40, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) It looks ugly. Can't we shorten it by saying "Quotes from Bob Smith" or just "Bob Smith" or something? The logo already identifies it as wikiquote.--User:GD 18:35, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) Something like that over there? Lighter on the eye without the bold type. User:Hajor {| border="0" width="35%" cellpadding="5" class="noprint" style="float:right; border:solid #008 2px; margin:0em 0em 0.5em 0.5em; width:35%;" |- | |wikiquote: on Wikiquote |}
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of this (\"Quotes by Bob Smith\"): {| border=\"0\" width=\"35%\" cellpadding=\"5\" class=\"noprint\" style=\"float:right; border:solid #008 2px; margin:0em 0em 0.5em 0.5em; width:35%;\" |- | |wikiquote: |} The logo already says it's wikiquote. The redundancy is unneeded. --User:GD 21:52, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) The logo itself is not sufficiently explanatory and easily ignored by text-oriented people. I strongly oppose the non-bold version, it looks very ugly in a serif font. As for "from vs. by", keep in mind that the template is also used on pages about books and movies.--User:EloquenceUser:Eloquence/CP : We need the project name in the template, so that the name is indexed by Google. -- user:zanimum ===Please let's delete the link to Wikiquote=== I agree with User:GD. Please let's delete the link to the
{{wikisourcepar|}} {{subst:wikisourcepar|}} wiktionary[par], wikisource[par], and wikiquote[par] — should be updated that way. --User:Quuxplusone 16:32, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: These are updated so rarely, it's simple to just update them manually rather than having any on-going performance hit. -- User:Netoholic User talk:Netoholic 17:43, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)
: I think this is a great idea because then people will have to fight over the looks of one template only and the other will always automatically follow. This is already used in e.g. Template:cookbook (look at the source) This template should follow the behaviour, if there is not a good reason to make the templates look different. --User:Easyas12c 22:53, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)See other meanings of words starting from letter:
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