Welcome, Newcomers

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Welcome, Newcomers

#REDIRECT Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers

Welcome, newcomers

#REDIRECT Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers

Welcome, newcomers

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia written ''Collaborative writing'' by its readers. The site is a Wiki, meaning that anyone, including ''you'', can edit almost any article right now by clicking on the #Editing link that appears at the top of the page. But, before you do just that, you might want to read this page. == Browsing Wikipedia == Wikipedia contains a huge amount of information on all sorts of subjects ranging from politics, science, history, music, religion, pop culture, and sports to everything and anything in between. Try browsing the various categories right now. You can also search for text in articles. Just go to the "search" field to the left, enter your search term and click "search". Note that the built-in search function may be disabled in times of server overload; in these cases you will be redirected to a Google-based search of the Wikipedia database. There are also Wikipedia:Searching to Wikipedia:Readers%27_FAQ#How_do_I_search_Wikipedia.3F. If you read something that you really like, then why not drop a note on the article's Wikipedia:talk page? First select the discussion link (look for it in the tabs above the page), to get to the talk page. Then select edit this page on the talk page, or click the + to the right of edit this page to simply add a new comment. We always love to get a little positive feedback. If there's something we don't cover, or you're having difficulty finding what you're looking for, just ask us at the Wikipedia:reference desk, or add the topic to our list of wikipedia:requested articles. Find other ways to Wikipedia:Explore or... Help:Starting a new page. == Editing == Everyone can edit pages in Wikipedia — even this page! Just click the edit this page link at the top of any page (except for Wikipedia:This page is protected) if you think it needs any improvement or new information. You don't need anything special; you don't even need to be Wikipedia:How to log in. If you want to experiment first, without risk of "messing up" a real article, head over to Wikipedia:Sandbox, where you can practice editing to your heart's content. To practice editing an existing page like this one, just copy and paste it from the article's edit page into the sandbox. If you want to learn more, check out the Wikipedia:Tutorial to learn the basic info you should know as a member of our project. You may find this a bit intimidating at first, but see Wikipedia:Replies to common objections for an explanation of why the system still works. ==Policies== We've got a few wikipedia:policies and guidelines that you should look at. The three most essential principles are NPOV, GFDL, and civility. What does this mean? *NPOV, or wikipedia:neutral point of view means that articles should not be biased, and should represent differing views on a subject fairly. *All contributions to Wikipedia are released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). This specifically ensures that Wikipedia will remain freely distributable in perpetuity. Please do not submit any content that is copyrighted without permission of the copyright holder. (See Wikipedia:Copyrights for more information). *Civility. Wikipedia works by cooperation, and therefore mutual respect, Wikipedia:Civility, and Wikipedia:Wikilove should be practiced universally. Please Wikipedia:Assume good faith when you disagree with someone, Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot, and talk things over civilly. It is good practice to provide an Wikipedia:edit summary explaining your changes so as to assist others with noticing and accepting your changes. If you find that your edits get removed or modified, wait a moment before reinstating them. First check the page history, your talk page, or the article's talk page to discuss. See also Wikipedia:Wikiquette. ==Don't be discouraged== If you run into conflicts in your first forays into editing, then don't let it get you down. In any collaborative project there are clashes. Have a look at the Wikipedia:Writers rules of engagement page as well as the other articles in the tutorial wing below. Use them to help you resolve the problems and learn how to become an active and productive contributor. And if there's anything you don't understand — be it technical or social — and you're not sure where to look, just post a question on the Wikipedia:help desk, and someone will be happy to help you. Have fun! ==Want to join?== Anyone can edit, but there are Wikipedia:Why create an account? to creating an account if you want to contribute regularly. To join, Special:Userlogin and then introduce yourself to the community at the Wikipedia:New user log. == See also == === General information, guides and help === *Wikipedia:About *Wikipedia:Help — help on editing, starting new articles, and many other topics. *Wikipedia:FAQ — frequently asked questions about the site. *Wikipedia:Glossary — a glossary of common Wikipedia terms. *Wikipedia:What is Wikipedia *Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not *wikipedia:Policies and guidelines *Wikipedia:Manual of Style === Wikicivics === ====Tutorial Wing==== *''Wikipedia:Wikiquette'' *''Wikipedia:NPOV tutorial'' *''Wikipedia:Writers rules of engagement'' — dispute resolution. *''Wikipedia:Faux pas avoidance'' ====Department of Deeper Inquiries==== *''Wikipedia:Civility'' *''Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia'' *''Wikipedia:Neutral point of view'' === The Wikipedia community === *Wikipedia:Contact us *Wikipedia:Wikipedians — different listings of regular contributors; you may add yourself if you wish. *Wikipedia:Wikifun. 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Welcome, newcomers

"There are a lot of Ph.D.s and graduate students and other very smart and knowledgeable people at work here--but everyone is welcome. " I dislike this sentence in the welcome article. It seems to place a premium on formal education. Much human knowledge is distributed diffusely outside of academia's ivory towers and fairly restricted peer publishing. Anybody have ideas for better wording? User:Mirwin 14:08 Aug 17, 2002 (PDT) :That exact sentence also appears twice. -- User:Tzartzam 20:41 Sep 8, 2002 (UTC) ---- Well, there should be a premium placed on education, formal or otherwise. People who write for encyclopedias should know stuff. Education tends to make people educated--emphasis on the word "tends." Frankly, Wikipedia needs all the educated people it can get. :...and so it depends on what you define as "education." And I'm not talking about "the University of Life." Education need not take place in colleges and universities. -- User:Tzartzam 20:41 Sep 8, 2002 (UTC) ::Nobody's arguing with that. : Yes, people who edit encyclopedias should know something. If you can find me somebody, anybody, who doesn't know something, then I'll be very impressed. Even people who know nothing can help, though - fixing typos, for example. I've removed the sentence. User:MyRedDice 21:13 8 Jul 2003 (UTC) ---- I would suggest that the type of education needed differs on the particulars of the article being created/revised. An article on cuneiform writing would benefit greatly from the work of an archaeologist or renowned professor; whereas an article on modern architectural techniques could be appreciably enhanced by the writings of a welder.
Also, human experience being what it is, an article on the benefits of prosthetics might be better written by an ex-taxicab driver who was injured in an accident and is fitted with an artificial leg than by professor from UCLA. The true question is the long-term scope of wikipedia. If it is to mirror the Encyclopedia Britannica or Encyclopaedia Universalis, then indeed scholars are our targets. But if instead it is to expand into a true reflection of mankind's knowledge, then the man on the street is our target. I personally believe the latter to be a more worthy goal; one that will make WP (WikiPedia) indispensible in the decades to come, simply because the breadth of knowledge it will encompass will be enormously greater than that ofany printable encyclopedia. Besides, printable encyclopedias cannot hyperlink, and have a hard time staying current. ---- This originally appeared User:Two halves. It was suggested that I move it this article, but I am leaving it for someone else to in corporate into the article or another related page. --User:Two halves Note to Newcomers: There are some people who work on the Wikipedia who are not polite. You might say that they are mean and rude. You would do well to ignore their coarseness, even when their criticisms of your writing are valid. Cruel comments should not deter you from trying to make the Wikipedia the best Free Encyclopedia in existence. If you might be one of these rude people, you might consider the effect of what you are saying to others. ---- Where do I ask questions about Special pages that aren't editable and don't have a Talk page? (Special:Wantedpages ;-)) -- User:Timwi 12:53 15 Jun 2003 (UTC) : Wikipedia:village pump, or here... what did you want to know? User:MyRedDice 14:31 15 Jun 2003 (UTC) :: Guess my hinting at Special:Wantedpages wasn't clear enough. This page displays as a character jungle on my machine. If a sysop could fix that, or even generate a new up-to-date version, I'd be much obliged :) -- User:Timwi 22:36 15 Jun 2003 (UTC) : All fixed now. Problem was that a sysop had edited directly Wikipedia:most wanted articles - which they shouldn't do... User:MyRedDice ::You can ask at Wikipedia talk:Special pages. User:Angela 07:16, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC) ---- :::You may also want to have a look at the Wikipedia:FAQ. :::The Wikipedia:Village pump is where people ask and answer general questions. If you would like to see how we resolve disputes, try Wikipedia:Votes for deletion or Wikipedia:problem users. We try to keep everyone calm, but, there are times and subjects that people take very seriously. Writing on a controversial topic is one way to encounter all of this head-on at once. The above is from Wikipedia, where it was meant to be guidance for newcomers. ---- About the rewrite: Martin, this looks really fine and is probably more newbie-friendly, but shouldn't the GFDL be mentioned on the page (I think it was in the earlier version)? User:Kosebamse 20:47 8 Jul 2003 (UTC) : Hmm - good point. I saved the text in notepad, so I'll cut it back in (unless anyone beats me to it). Thanks! :) User:MyRedDice ---- Yaron Livne from Israel: I think it is really weird, it means that right now I can come here and write nonsences, like: !@#!@$!@523542; right? anyway: this place really helped me in some research (in history) but only after, when I realized what it means "a free encyclopedia" I now hope that I can relly on this information... and also what will happen if someone decides to erase everything I red about the Ostrogoths and the Roman empire for example.. it won't be here anymore... someone has worked hard for writing it.. and it can easily go away... I hope someone is saving all the info around here... : Hi, Livne - I added a link to wikipedia:replies to common objections to the page - does this help? User:MyRedDice == welcome committee == Hey folks. Recently a new user showed up, created a "vanity page," and spent a while fussing over whether it was going to be deleted. I talked with him a bit, and got the impression that he was doing that because he didn't really know what else to do. He was willing to contribute but didn't know where. After that experience, it occurred to me that it would useful to create a group of Wikipedians dedicated to guiding newcomers. I know that there are a number of people who make a point of posting welcome messages to new users' talk pages, but I'm talking about more than that. I mean making a project dedicated to discussion of how to better welcome newcomers and get them started working where they'll be the most help. This project would have a page somewhere (Maybe a WikiProject page or a page on meta) and a defined, if informal, membership. The ultimate goal would be to welcome newcomers, find out their interests, connect them to WikiProjects if appropriate, introduce them to veteran WikiPedians with similar interests, and maybe guide them in their early editing. I believe this approach would be better than the current system of hoping newcomers will read guidelines, waiting for them to ask questions, and correcting their work when they screw up. A more proactive approach would have several benefits: *It would help get newcomers contributing faster and better, thus adding more good material to WikiPedia *It would save time that people currently spend fixing work of newcomers who don't know what's going on. *It would immerse new users in WikiPedia faster, and thus hopefully encourage a greater percentage of new users to stay. Comments? User:Isomorphic 20:10, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC) : You know, we're usually pretty good about someone posting a "welcome to wikipedia" boilerplates, and whomever does so seems to be the newbie's first "wikifriend". I do ''try'' to do this, but I seem to be beaten 99% of the time either by User:Angela or User:Theresa_knott (lending support to my theory that they're both highly advanced, super-efficient, perlscripts). I'm beginning to think of amending my own boilerplate to be a bit clearer about autobiographies, as I think a lot of the supposed "vanity" pages are just people not knowing the difference between the main namespace and the User one. -- User:Finlay McWalter 20:19, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC) ::Great idea. Not sure how it would be implemented, except perhaps by having a newbie click on a selection of areas of interest that would then alert an editor with similar interests (that has volunteered to be in the position) who can serve as a "guide" in the beginning, possibly passing off to other subcommittee members. I note there are some such groups already at MetaWiki - User:Marshman 23:24, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC) ** Well, one implementation I'd imagined was having a page somewhere with a coded feature that showed all new accounts that have been created in, say, the last week (excluding anonymous IPs.) Also, where are such groups on meta? I haven't spent much time there. Could someone link? User:Isomorphic 00:12, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) :It might be worth anyone interested in setting up such a scheme to look at the way it works on H2G2 (technically another collaborative encyclopedia project, but also a fairly wide-ranging community). There, they(we) have a group of H2g2#Volunteers, known as ''ACEs'', whose primary job is exactly this kind of encouragement/welcome. Obviously, the circumstances are very different, but the scheme is now fairly mature, so it may be interesting to investigate the tools and procedures that have been put in place. See [http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/Aces the h2g2 ACEs page] for details. - User:IMSoP 01:03, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) We could create a MediaWiki custom text (see Wikipedia:MediaWiki namespace) where people can fill in "tasks of the day" in newbiew-friendly language. Then all people who post welcome messages could add to their boilerplace text to include the message. To avoid improper content, the page should be protected.User:Eloquence I like what I read about the H2G2 model. Anyway, I'd like to continue this discussion but suspect that Village Pump isn't the place. Is there a page somewhere on Meta? I really don't know anything much about Meta, as I'm still new here myself. User:Isomorphic 09:33, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) :How about starting one at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee if it's going to be specific to the English Wikipedia or meta:Welcoming committee if it applies more widely? User:AngelaUser talk:Angela 14:28, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) Maybe we should write a welcome page (Wikipedia:Welcome to Wikipedia?). It would merge some of the information from the top of the main page, Wikipedia:About, Wikipedia:Utilites, as well as other useful stuff - basics on etiquette, discussion, NPOV, everything needed for a newbie to find their way around. All written in newbie friendly language, style and formatting, and not longer than a screen of text, plus judiciously chosen and nicely formatted bunch of links to further reading. Make it nice and useful enough that people keep coming back to it. Then post a link to this on the main page, on the anonymous edit page and on the login prompt pages (as well as under "You are now logged in...") User:Zocky 14:07, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) : You do know Welcome, newcomers, right?User:Eloquence :: No, I didn't. I've always assumed that "Welcome, newcomers" under "Writing articles" was a crash course in wikitax. I see that it's only linked to from the main page. How about making it more prominent - bold the link or put it on the top of the main page, into "Wikipedia is...", as well as to other places mentioned above. User:Zocky 15:19, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) Just a comment. I may not be the only person stupid enough to takes days to find my "talk" page. I thought "talk" set up a chat-room.. am used to things like an inbox being called an inbox or messages not talk. Talk does not exist on a lot of other Wikis. Also am a bloke so never read instructions (or so my wife says). I thought that user pages were the place to get messages so never saw the welcome. I wonder if, if others are as dumb, we could get a text message to appear when a user ''first'' went to their user page telling them there was a talk page was for messages to them. Ot change the link to "messages for this user" rather than discuss this page. Too late to tell them on their talk page. Anyone else want to confess to the same problem? --user talk:BozMoUser:BozMo 20:45, 15 May 2004 (UTC) :Users get a message saying "You have user talk:Angela." at the top of every screen whenever they have a message, which links to their talk page, so I'm not sure a separate message is needed telling them they have a talk page before they get a message. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 20:56, May 16, 2004 (UTC) ::Does this still work under the new monobook skin? --User:TonyW 00:52, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC) == Encourage edits more == ''Moved from Wikipedia:Village pump'' I think my perspective as a newcomer might actually help here. The way I found wikipedia was googling "campaign finance reform". When I saw the article on campaign finance reform, I realized it didn't have much information; then I realized that it could be edited. I might never have become a wikipedian if that article had been more complete; instead, I would have just read what I needed and left. In order to capture more of these people who stumble onto wikipedia articles, we could add the following standard text to the top of all articles: ''This article is not done. To help finish it, visit Wikipedia:About''. I think this might help get more users, who might otherwise never realize they can edit. User:Meelar 20:07, Dec 11, 2003 : Your suggestion that we be clearer that any visitor can edit an article is a good one, although I don't agree with your proposed text. There are many of us (but by no means all) who thing there's no such thing as a "finished" article (indeed, that's the biggest difference between wikipedia and, say, h2g2). I'd say that presenting new visitors with a flashy ''Hey Kids! Find out how YOU can improve this article, right now!'' bubble would be a great idea. -- User:Finlay McWalter 01:30, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC) ::The suggestion is really an important one for us to discuss. In hindsight, I realize I came to wikipedia (via google searches) many times before recognizing what wikipedia was. It really wasn't until the 20th time (or so) that it hit me that I'd seen the interface many times before, and I started to investigate. It would be really nice to have some sort of text to alert new users that they are encountering an interactive encyclopedia. Maybe it could be designed that only non-logged-in-IP-address viewers would see the message. User:Kingturtle 05:27, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC) : I don't like the idea. We should keep each article looking as complete as possible, with room for expansion. Even if we miss important information, making the rest of the article look complete will make the Wikipedia be much more usable. Anyway, for stubs, we have stubnotes - they let the user know that they can add to the stub. User:Dysprosia 07:48, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC) :Figuring out you can edit a WP article perhaps has some slight function as an entry test to keep out undesirables. User:Meelar worked it out and seems to be the sort of person we want. "YOU CAN EDIT THIS PAGE" is practically an open invitation to any moronic vandal who sees it. User:Anjouli 14:14, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC) :Thank you for your suggestion and welcome to Wikipedia! This idea is interesting, but I think it needn't be implemented. There is already an ''Edit this page'' link. I don't think we need much editing from users who have visited Wikipedia only once or twice. What we need is readers and experienced writers. It is better to let editing to readers who bookmarked Wikipedia, visited it many times and are familiar with its structure, format, philosophy and look'n'feel. It should be noted that many newcomers may also vandalize some page. Best wishes, User:Optim 20:30, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC) ::Well.. who were the experienced writers in the first place? Well, just like this newbie. Meelar has my sympathies, since I arrived as a contributon on my [http://susning.nu first wiki] just the same way. I do think however, that we needn't state it as Meelar's suggestion. My suggestion: sweeten up the stub message to be more inviting! User:Sverdrup— User:Sverdrup User talk:Sverdrup 22:25, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC) Hallo. This place seems nice. I might stay. --user sennheiser :I think it should be a little more obvious. Just a link that says "if you see errors or omissions on this page you can edit it." Or something to that effect. I had never thought of it keeping out undesireables by not being obvious, though. Probably a good idea, too. - User:141.157.193.220 23:30, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC) ==Help Wanted== I'm trying to create the perfect Wikipedia:Welcome boilerplate--will you help? User:Jengod 00:04, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC) :This is already at Wikipedia:Standard user greeting. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 15:54, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC) ==Request for addition== May I add this to the top of the page? We do want to make our newbies feel welcome, do we not? HHHHHH HHHHHH IIIIII YYYYYY YYYYYY AAA ■■■ HHHH HHHH IIII YYYY YYYY AAAAA ■■■ HHHH HHHH IIII YYYY YYYY AA/ \AA ■■■ HHHH HHHH IIII YYYY YYYY AA/ \AA ■■■ HHHHHHHHHHHHHH IIII YYYYYYYY AAAAAAAAAAA ■■■ HHHHHHHHHHHHHH IIII YYYYYY AAAAAAAAAAAAA ■■■ HHHHHHHHHHHHHH IIII YYYY AAA/ \AAA ■■■ HHHH HHHH IIII YYYY AAA/ \AAA ■■■ HHHH HHHH IIII YYYY AAA/ \AAA HHHH HHHH IIII YYYY AAA/ \AAA ■■■ HHHHHH HHHHHH IIIIII YYYYYY AAAAAAA AAAAAAA ■■■ - User:Calmypal 22:18, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC) It's been 4 days, and no one opposes this addition. - User:Calmypal 01:53, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC) : I oppose it. It looks ugly as is, and if a user isn't using the right browser, it'll look like random junk. If a tasteful picture is made, then great. User:Dysprosia 02:08, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC) ::I'd oppose saying HIYA in any case. It is slang, over-familiar and likely to turn people off --User:BozMouser talk:BozMo 11:52, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC) Blast! - User:Calmypal 02:15, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC) Here's what I have so far — ____ ____ ____ \ /\ / | | / \ / \ \ / \ / | | / / \ \ / \ / |———— | ( ( ) \ / \ / | | \ \ / \/ \/ |____ |____ \____/ \____/ - User:Calmypal : Why not just make a picture, like an image, not just ASCII art? ASCII art will just not render properly on systems with differing font usages, or different resolutions, and so on. It's already messed up now - would you like to see a screenshot? User:Dysprosia 02:32, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC) Please. - User:Calmypal 02:34, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC) : :Image:Welcome-ascii_openbsd34.jpg - it's a bit large, but I thougt it should be so you can see things properly. User:Dysprosia 03:10, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC) :I see now. We should have a real picture. The question is, what sort of picture? - User:Calmypal 19:27, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC) You guys may not have noticed, but the page in question is very very different now from the one you think you're talking about. User:130.216.191.183 :Do you mean the older talk doesn't relate to the current article? That often happens, which is why comments are usually given a date stamp which helps to show they may be old and no longer relevant. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 03:21, May 21, 2004 (UTC) == User-Friendliness Problem == To put it simply, the welcome page is not very welcoming. I propose cutting this page way down and delegating its content to other pages. "Welcome, newcomers" should be less in the style of an article than it is. Each section should recieve no more than a simply-written (think ''"Go ahead—Wikipedia:Sandbox!"'') one-paragraph blurb followed by a few links. --User:Ldrhcp 21:55, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC) :The Wikipedia:Tutorial is more like that. Perhaps it's good for this page to be more detailed so it is not made obsolete by the tutorial. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 18:29, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) == wonderful == wondurful concept == The Nature of Knowledge? == My name is Ned and I'm a newbie and I wonder why so many people are so concerned about academic credentials? To paraphrase another contributor, "Everybody knows some stuf"f. Let the academics contribute the hard core facts and data. Let others contribute their own personal experience, observations and reactions. Togeteher we can build a dynamic source of information that comprises many facets: Analytical intelligence and emotional and social intelligence as well. If I can provide a sketchy outline of a theorem or hypothesis, than perhaps this might stimulate others to "connect the dots and fill in the blanks". == Don't be discouraged == As a newbie I have had the gall to add a paragraph to the main article! (Yes, my tongue is in my cheek as I type this.) I have done this because reading a paragraph like this before I started would not have put me off but would have prepared me for what I encountered. I have given one link but I am sure there are more that would be helpful. As a plea to those experienced in this, please modify what I have written and add more helpful links or perhaps create a page for the newbie in trouble and include a link to it in the paragraph. --User:CloudSurfer 06:29, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC) == Recent redirect of WP:Welcome, newcomers to new page WP:Introduction == Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers was recently redirected to a new Wikipedia:Introduction page in an effort to streamline it and make it more user-friendly. While I admire the redirectors' intentions, I believe this change should be discussed, and consensus reached, before the established page is redirected to a much different, newer version. I have asked on Wikipedia Talk:Introduction that the redirect be reverted and discussed first. What do others think? User:Charm Special:Contributions/CharmUser talk:Charm 08:09, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC) The page has been redirected a second time. As some were not happy with this change last time, and some are still not happy, I am reverting the change and starting a comprehensive discussion about our introductory pages on Wikipedia talk:Welcoming committee. User:Isomorphic 18:03, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) == How to add a new entry? == Hello, How does one add a new entry to Wikipedia? :There are a few ways. The way I do it is to make a link from a related page, such as under the "See also" section. Just add the title of your new article in double brackets, like this: :[[New article title]] :If the link is red, just click on it and you'll be brought to a blank page to fill. If it is blue, we already have an article on that title. User:Maurreen 16:31, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Removing merger flag == I am about to remove the MERGE flag from the top of the article because it seems inappropriate on two grounds: #The desirability of the merges is under discussion and there seems to be no consensus in favour of such a change. #Such text is potentially confusing for the newcomers who being directed to this page.
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