:I started Wikipedia:WikiProject Polish Voivodships some time ago to settle the naming conventions for Polish Voivodships, powiats/counties and gmina/communes. Please participate. User:HalibuttUser_Talk:Halibutt">User:Halibutt|User:HalibuttUser Talk:Halibutt 13:11, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
== Voivodship? It should be Province! ==
The word "voivodship" is present only in one dictionary, namely Jan Stanisławski's dictionary. A real english word should be present in many dictionaries. And in at least one english dictionary. Try to search for it in any english dictionary and you'll see that it's just absent. For example: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=voivodship
Even if you want to derive it from word "voivod" (in Polish: "wojewoda"), you should translate it as "voivod's area" or "voivod's own land". The word "voivodship" would mean something like "being a voivod" which is not relevant to a part of a country, because "voivod" is a man, not a land.
Many languages have their own versions of word "province", so does Polish. But there is no reason to say "voivodship" while it means just "province".
I suggest changing the word "voivodship" into word "province", which is a real english word. If you want to indicate its polish origin, write: "Province (województwo)". And you can explain that "województwo" comes from "voivod".
--User:Wahwah 10:20, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
# What for?
# Why?
# Did you forget of paper dictionaries?
# Also, the term is actually being used ([http://www.google.com/search?hs=kD1&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl-PL%3Aofficial&q=Voivodship+-wikipedia+-%22Quick+Facts%22&btnG=Search]). contrary to your proposed "Province (województwo)"
# I can see only one pro of promoting province over voivodship: the latter has two alternative spellings.
--User:HalibuttUser talk:Halibutt 11:54, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
Voivodship is used in English language. I asked a professional translator about it some time ago. Google shows 81,500 hits, and 31,500 hits for vovideship (and this is english word, not Polish - Polish is ''województwo''). Google define has one defintion other then Wiki - which is more then for some English words. --User:PiotrusUser_talk:Piotrus 16:04, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===Pros===
I'll try to provide some pros.
====1: Is it really english word?====
First let's take a look if this word really exists in english language.
#Webster Unabridged online: negative ([http://machaut.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/WEBSTER.sh?WORD=voivodship])
#Merriam-webster online: negative ([http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=voivodship&x=0&y=0])
#Polish expert answers this question: negative (in polish) ([http://www.angielski.edu.pl/ekspert_answer.php.html&id=2659])
#Nowy słownik Fundacji Kościuszkowskiej, polish paper dictionary: negative ([http://www.serwistlumacza.com/texts/fundkosc.html]); the review notices the fact that in this dictionary word ''województwo'' is correctly translated, as ''province''
#Cambridge online dictionary: negative ([http://dictionary.cambridge.org/results.asp?searchword=voivodship&image.x=0&image.y=0])
#Polish dictionary at www.onet.pl: gives both, and ''province'' as the first meaning ([http://portalwiedzy.onet.pl/tlumacz.html?qs=wojew%F3dztwo&tr=ang-auto&x=0&y=0])
#Pocket Langenscheidt (paper): negative
Conclusion: it's not a native english word.
====2: What's the origin of this word?====
The history of this infamous word is as follows:
#Polish word "województwo" has two meanings: (1) property or land of a voivode and (2) idea of being a voivod.
#Jan Stanisławski makes up a translation of this word (using meaning (2)?) and gets it printed
#Stanisławski's dictionary is the only one printed to contain a translation of this word, so everybody starts using it
====3: Is it really used?====
I performed a Google search: I looked from pages in .pl domain, in english, containing the word "voivodship" and "province". The results are:
#voivodship: 24700 ([http://www.google.pl/search?biw=&hl=pl&q=site%3Apl+voivodship&lr=lang_en&btnG=Szukaj+w+Google])
#province: 94100 ([http://www.google.pl/search?biw=&hl=pl&q=site%3Apl+province+&lr=lang_en&btnG=Szukaj+w+Google])
Please note that at least top results come with the names of certain provinces, like "Łódzkie province" or "Lubelskie province".
Conclusion: word "province" is also widely used in the same meaning as "voivodship" on Polish websites.
: Perhaps this will clarify this matter: it is a translation of a Polish term, invented by Poles and used by all Polish official documents in English. I see no reason to restrict our search to .pl domain, and searching for "voivodeship+province" may yeld many pages with use one for Polish districts and other for non-Polish. The translator I spoke to sais that correct translations of Polish text into English use the term voivodship with a note (I will quote it here soon). Bottom line is that this term exists in English languege and is correct in it's current usage on Wikipedia - i.e. Polish province should be reffered as Polish voivodship.--User:PiotrusUser_talk:Piotrus 21:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::For me it didn't clarify this matter. You say that this term exists in english language, while it obviously doesn't. You're Polish, thus biased. Maybe an english native speakers and/or language experts (but not polish!) should have a say? And about Googling: Mazowieckie is the most popular province, so let's try to look for it together with "voivodship" and "province". The results are: Mazowieckie+voivodship ([http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1013&q=%22Mazowieckie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en]): 552 results. Mazowieckie+province ([http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1013&q=%22Mazowieckie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en]): 1090 results. In conclusion, the word "province" is used more often than "voivodship" in context of polish province. Anyway, are polish provinces so different from provinces in other countries that they need a different word?--User:Wahwah 21:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Update. 'The guy named Stanisławowski is in fact Jan Stanisławski, a famous Polish linguist [http://accurapid.com/journal/29poldic.htm]. So as you can see, there is some authoirty behind the word ''voivodeship''. And from the mentioned translator, I got this clarification: "TRANSLATOR’S REMARK: voivodship is an administrative unit of Poland, comparable to a province (for example an official (in documents) English version of 'wojewodztwo śląskie' is 'Śąskie voivodship' In other (literature, ect.) publications a version "Silesian Voivodship' may be used as well.; voivode is a head officer of the voivodship according to the administrative division of Poland, the term 'powiat' can be compared to ditric/county. The smalest unit is 'gimna' - this is Polish word used in English (with its plural form " gminas)." Those tranlations are recommended by Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs as recommended terminology (see also loanword), and when used, often require an explantion (such as the above translator's remark). As you can see, voivideship is the most correct term for Polish provinces. For their difference from others, see voivodeship. As much as I love standarisation, the fact is there are lots of countries with lots of different names for their provinces - states, county, district, land, etc. Why do you want to deny Poles the right to introduce their own loanword? Finally, I am quite sure your meanings and etymology of the word 'województwo' is wrong (as voivode never ever owned a voivodship) - at least in their present meaning; I will have to check their etymology in ''Słownik Języka Polskiego''. PS. ''You're Polish, thus biased'', LOL, you have been reading meta:How to deal with Poles? Please, Wikipedia:No personal attacks, let's keep it civil. --User:PiotrusUser_talk:Piotrus 21:43, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::I checked the link about Stanisławski and let me quote the website: ''Until recently Polish-English translators had to do with Jan Stanisławski's The Great English-Polish and Polish-English Dictionary or The Kosciuszko Foundation English-Polish and Polish-English Dictionary, both of which were published in the late '50s or early '60s. For nearly forty years they were the largest source of reference, although not always a reliable one due to errors/omissions and a lapse of time.''. Isn't the ''voivodship'' likely to be one of those errors? The new edition of the other mentioned dictionary (Kosciuszko Foundation Dictionary) translates ''województwo'' as ''province''. Now, let's talk about what is a translation. If you translate a polish text into english language, you write english text with the same meaning as polish. It means that you want to use existing english grammar and existing english words. You don't invent the words! You look in the english dictionary, find the right word and use it. Writing ''voivodship'' for ''województwo'' is like writing ''thank you from the mountain'' for ''dziękuję z góry'' (''thanks in advance'').--User:Wahwah 22:38, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::Write the the Polish Ministry of Foreigh Affairs, perhaps they will change their mind, it would much ease our trubles. Until then, I will stick with the official Polish guidelines, as every single self-respecting translator (read: people who deal with translation on professional basis) does. --User:PiotrusUser_talk:Piotrus 22:47, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::Speaking of the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they seem not to stick with their own guidelines. When searching their website for discussed words, we get 315 results for word ''province'' ([http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1013&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+province&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en]) while keyword ''voivodship'' returns only 60 documents ([http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1013&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+voivodship&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en]). Can you explain that?--User:Wahwah 22:58, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Ministry of FOREIGN Affairs beign, well, of FOREIGN Affairs, it is quite possible they use the term province when talking about non-Polish units of administration. --User:PiotrusUser_talk:Piotrus 08:10, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Let the Ministry of Foreign Affairs speak for itself.
*Dolnośląskie 0:0 (draw)
*Kujawsko-pomorskie 0:5 (province wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Kujawsko-pomorskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Kujawsko-pomorskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Lubelskie 0:2 (province wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Lubelskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Lubelskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Lubuskie 3:7 (province wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Lubuskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Lubuskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Łódzkie 0:0 (draw)
*Małopolskie 0:0 (draw)
*Opolskie 0:0 (draw)
*Podkarpackie 0:5 (province wins, ([http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Podkarpackie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Podkarpackie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Podlaskie 3:12 (province wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Podlaskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Podlaskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Pomorskie 4:9 ([http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Pomorskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Pomorskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Śląskie 0:0 (draw)
*Świętokrzyskie 2:0 (voivodship wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22%C5%9Awi%C4%99tokrzyskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22%C5%9Awi%C4%99tokrzyskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Warmińsko-mazurskie 0:0 (draw)
*Wielkopolskie 2:3 (province wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Wielkopolskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Wielkopolskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
*Zachodniopomorskie 0:2 (province wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Zachodniopomorskie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Zachodniopomorskie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
I performed a statistical test to check if there are reasons to say that word ''province'' is more often used than ''voivodship''. Here is the data and the results:
> P
voivodship province
Dolnośląskie 0 0
Kujawsko-pomorskie 0 5
Lubelskie 0 2
Lubuskie 3 7
Łódzkie 0 0
Małopolskie 0 0
Opolskie 0 0
Podkarpackie 0 5
Podlaskie 3 12
Pomorskie 4 9
Śląskie 0 0
Świętokrzyskie 2 0
Warmińsko-mazurskie 0 0
Wielkopolskie 2 3
Zachodniopomorskie 0 2
> binom.test(cbind(sum(P$voivodship), sum(P$province)), p = 0.5, alternative = 'less')
Exact binomial test
data: cbind(sum(P$voivodship), sum(P$province))
number of successes = 14, number of trials = 59, p-value = 3.265e-05
alternative hypothesis: true probability of success is less than 0.5
95 percent confidence interval:
0.0000000 0.3458262
sample estimates:
probability of success
0.2372881
The p-value of 0.00003265 indicates that we can be 99.997% sure that word ''province'' is used more often than word ''voivodship'' in regard to polish provinces, on website of Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs.--User:Wahwah 09:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===Doubts===
Now I'm really confused about it because it seems like this wrong translation is now widely used (lots of hits on Google), so it's difficult or impossible to change it, while I'm really certain that it's really wrong.--User:Wahwah 20:20, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::In your searches you apparently forgot to check for all variants of the name. For instance, the unit of administrative division in Silesia can be called:
# Silesian Voivodship
# Silesian Voivodeship
# Śląskie Voivodship
# Śląskie Voivodeship
# Śląsk Voivodship
# Śląsk Voivodeship
# Slask Voivodship
# Slask Voivodeship
# Silesia Voivodship
# Silesia Voivodeship
# Voivodship of Silesia
# Voivodeship of Silesia
# ... perhaps more...
::To get the general idea, compare your search above with the following:
*Podkarpackie 0:5 (province wins, ([http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Podkarpackie+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=1007&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Podkarpackie+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
* Sub-Carpathian 3:1 (voivodship wins, [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=792&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Sub-Carpathian+voivodship%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en], [http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&biw=792&q=site%3Awww.msz.gov.pl+%22Sub-carpathian+province%22&btnG=Szukaj&lr=lang_en])
::Anyway, the problem you have with dictionaries is with ambiguity. ALL voivodships are provinces, while not all provinces in the world are voivodships. That's why it is safer to translate the Polish term as province in a dictionary, since it might be used for all cases, while "voivodship" would denote only the Polish traditional unit of administrative division. Get the point? A Pole searching a dictionary for an English equivalent of a Polish voivodship would most likely want to find a universally-applicable version. User:HalibuttUser talk:Halibutt 12:14, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, [http://www.mswia.gov.pl/pdf/ospr_eng.pdf here] you have an interesting example of usage of the term ''province'' to denote powiat-sized entity. User:HalibuttUser talk:Halibutt 14:11, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
==Full search==
I was so nice to perform a full search on Google, according to Halibutt's suggestions. I checked: " voivodship" and " province" (those two denoted with _1), and "voivodship of " and "province of " (those denoted with _2), for every province, in both polish and english versions of province names. Both "voivodship" and "voivodeship" spellings were taken into consideration. The search results follow:
*dolnośląskie_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22dolnośląskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22dolnośląskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22dolnośląskie%20province%22])
*dolnośląskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20dolnośląskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20dolnośląskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20dolnośląskie%22])
*kujawsko-pomorskie_1 0 5 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22kujawsko-pomorskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22kujawsko-pomorskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22kujawsko-pomorskie%20province%22])
*kujawsko-pomorskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20kujawsko-pomorskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20kujawsko-pomorskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20kujawsko-pomorskie%22])
*lubelskie_1 0 2 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lubelskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lubelskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lubelskie%20province%22])
*lubelskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20lubelskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20lubelskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20lubelskie%22])
*lubuskie_1 3 7 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lubuskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lubuskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lubuskie%20province%22])
*lubuskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20lubuskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20lubuskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20lubuskie%22])
*mazowieckie_1 0 7 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%21%22mazowieckie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22mazowieckie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22mazowieckie%20province%22])
*mazowieckie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20mazowieckie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20mazowieckie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20mazowieckie%22])
*małopolskie_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22małopolskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22małopolskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22małopolskie%20province%22])
*małopolskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20małopolskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20małopolskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20małopolskie%22])
*opolskie_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22opolskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22opolskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22opolskie%20province%22])
*opolskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20opolskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20opolskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20opolskie%22])
*podkarpackie_1 0 5 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22podkarpackie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22podkarpackie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22podkarpackie%20province%22])
*podkarpackie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20podkarpackie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20podkarpackie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20podkarpackie%22])
*podlaskie_1 5 12 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22podlaskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22podlaskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22podlaskie%20province%22])
*podlaskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20podlaskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20podlaskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20podlaskie%22])
*pomorskie_1 5 9 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22pomorskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22pomorskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22pomorskie%20province%22])
*pomorskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20pomorskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20pomorskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20pomorskie%22])
*silesia_1 2 13 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22silesia%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22silesia%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22silesia%20province%22])
*silesia_2 12 2 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20silesia%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20silesia%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20silesia%22])
*silesian_1 1 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22silesian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22silesian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22silesian%20province%22])
*silesian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20silesian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20silesian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20silesian%22])
*slask_1 0 9 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22slask%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22slask%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22slask%20province%22])
*slask_2 0 1 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20slask%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20slask%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20slask%22])
*warmińsko-mazurskie_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22warmińsko-mazurskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22warmińsko-mazurskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22warmińsko-mazurskie%20province%22])
*warmińsko-mazurskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20warmińsko-mazurskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20warmińsko-mazurskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20warmińsko-mazurskie%22])
*wielkopolskie_1 2 3 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22wielkopolskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22wielkopolskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22wielkopolskie%20province%22])
*wielkopolskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20wielkopolskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20wielkopolskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20wielkopolskie%22])
*zachodniopomorskie_1 0 2 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22zachodniopomorskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22zachodniopomorskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22zachodniopomorskie%20province%22])
*zachodniopomorskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20zachodniopomorskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20zachodniopomorskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20zachodniopomorskie%22])
*łódzkie_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22łódzkie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22łódzkie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22łódzkie%20province%22])
*łódzkie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20łódzkie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20łódzkie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20łódzkie%22])
*śląsk_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22śląsk%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22śląsk%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22śląsk%20province%22])
*śląsk_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20śląsk%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20śląsk%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20śląsk%22])
*śląskie_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22śląskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22śląskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22śląskie%20province%22])
*śląskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20śląskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20śląskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20śląskie%22])
*świętokrzyskie_1 3 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22świętokrzyskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22świętokrzyskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22świętokrzyskie%20province%22])
*świętokrzyskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20świętokrzyskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20świętokrzyskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20świętokrzyskie%22])
*lower%20silesian_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lower%20silesian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lower%20silesian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22lower%20silesian%20province%22])
*lower%20silesian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20lower%20silesian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20lower%20silesian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20lower%20silesian%22])
*Kuyavian-Pomeranian_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Kuyavian-Pomeranian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Kuyavian-Pomeranian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Kuyavian-Pomeranian%20province%22])
*Kuyavian-Pomeranian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Kuyavian-Pomeranian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Kuyavian-Pomeranian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Kuyavian-Pomeranian%22])
*Lublin_1 7 21 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lublin%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lublin%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lublin%20province%22])
*Lublin_2 2 1 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Lublin%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Lublin%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Lublin%22])
*Lubusz_1 0 1 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lubusz%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lubusz%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lubusz%20province%22])
*Lubusz_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Lubusz%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Lubusz%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Lubusz%22])
*Łódź_1 3 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Łódź%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Łódź%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Łódź%20province%22])
*Łódź_2 2 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Łódź%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Łódź%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Łódź%22])
*Lesser%20Poland_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lesser%20Poland%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lesser%20Poland%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Lesser%20Poland%20province%22])
*Lesser%20Poland_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Lesser%20Poland%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Lesser%20Poland%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Lesser%20Poland%22])
*Masovian_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Masovian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Masovian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Masovian%20province%22])
*Masovian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Masovian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Masovian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Masovian%22])
*Opole_1 4 5 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Opole%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Opole%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Opole%20province%22])
*Opole_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Opole%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Opole%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Opole%22])
*Subcarpathian_1 5 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Subcarpathian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Subcarpathian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Subcarpathian%20province%22])
*Subcarpathian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Subcarpathian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Subcarpathian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Subcarpathian%22])
*Sub-carpathian_1 3 1 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Sub-carpathian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Sub-carpathian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Sub-carpathian%20province%22])
*Sub-carpathian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Sub-carpathian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Sub-carpathian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Sub-carpathian%22])
*Podlasie_1 2 15 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Podlasie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Podlasie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Podlasie%20province%22])
*Podlasie_2 3 2 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Podlasie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Podlasie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Podlasie%22])
*Pomeranian_1 1 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Pomeranian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Pomeranian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Pomeranian%20province%22])
*Pomeranian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Pomeranian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Pomeranian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Pomeranian%22])
*Silesian_1 1 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Silesian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Silesian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Silesian%20province%22])
*Silesian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Silesian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Silesian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Silesian%22])
*Świętokrzyskie_1 3 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Świętokrzyskie%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Świętokrzyskie%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Świętokrzyskie%20province%22])
*Świętokrzyskie_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Świętokrzyskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Świętokrzyskie%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Świętokrzyskie%22])
*Warmian-Masurian_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Warmian-Masurian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Warmian-Masurian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Warmian-Masurian%20province%22])
*Warmian-Masurian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Warmian-Masurian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Warmian-Masurian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Warmian-Masurian%22])
*Greater%20Poland_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Greater%20Poland%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Greater%20Poland%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Greater%20Poland%20province%22])
*Greater%20Poland_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Greater%20Poland%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Greater%20Poland%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Greater%20Poland%22])
*Western%20Pomeranian_1 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Western%20Pomeranian%20voivodship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Western%20Pomeranian%20voivodeship%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22Western%20Pomeranian%20province%22])
*Western%20Pomeranian_2 0 0 ([http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodship%20of%20Western%20Pomeranian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22voivodeship%20of%20Western%20Pomeranian%22], [http://www.google.pl/search?q=site:www.msz.gov.pl%20%22province%20of%20Western%20Pomeranian%22])
Now, after summing it up, we have 69 total hits for ''voivod(e)ship'' and 123 for ''province''. Statistical test checks if the sample size is big enough to claim that ''province'' is used more often than two other words:
> binom.test(cbind(sum(P$voivodship), sum(P$province)), p = 0.5, alternative = 'less');
Exact binomial test
data: cbind(sum(P$voivodship), sum(P$province))
number of successes = 69, number of trials = 192, p-value = 5.949e-05
alternative hypothesis: true probability of success is less than 0.5
95 percent confidence interval:
0.0000000 0.4202916
sample estimates:
probability of success
0.359375
P-value is very close to zero, indicating that there are reasons to reject hypothesis that ''voivod(e)ship'' is used more often than ''province''. With 95% of confidence, we can say that probability of use of word ''voivodship'' in any given document regarding polish provinces is between 0 and 0.42. In conclusion, polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs apparently favors word ''province'' in regard to polish provinces. --User:Wahwah 17:39, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I am impressed with the amount of research you did, it is enough for an academic article :) One thing I should clarify: the guideline to use 'voivodeship' is a proposal that is currently being discussed, not an official guideline (yet). Still, as long as this word exists, I prefer to use it - when one hears 'voivideship' one knows instantly it's a Polish province. And note it's not a Wikipedia invention - the over 100,000 worldwide uses of this term show that the harm has been done, it will be hard to put the djinn back in the bottle. Feel free to add some info on this phenomena to the relavant article, and if it's your hobby or professinal area of expertise, try writing an article or something like this (I might have tiem to help you translate and publish it in Polish translator magasine 'Lingua Legis' if you would like). From article on province: '' In some countries an alternative term is used, such as state (in Australia and the United States), prefecture (in Japan), or region (in France and Italy; the latter uses provincia as a tertiary form of government, akin to a county). '' Should we insist that state, prefecture, region, etc. are also eliminated? --User:PiotrusUser_talk:Piotrus 19:40, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)