
This is the modest cottage of Vmv, a wikipedia contributor. You used to see the word vlad_mv on the mat below the door. As of March 24, 2005, I replaced it with the more fashionable VladMV. == Jukebox == Check out what I'm listening to while working at Wikipedia. You can also see the User:Vmv/PastSoundtracks. Turned Off. Last time I was hear, I was listening to Come (band) ''Don't Ask, Don't Tell'' & Garbage Version 2.0, then Astor Piazzolla (''The Rough Dancer and the Cyclical Night'') & Massive Attack (Mezzanine). == Oven == {| style="float:right; background:transparent; margin-left:15px" |- | {| style="border: 1px solid black; padding : 0px" |- | width="45px" height="45px" style="background:#00c000;" | |- |Status: off |} |} My wikistress level rarely goes up: most of the time, it keeps green. Wikipedia is addictive - I drink and smoke, so I should know. I usually keep my contributions at a level where they won't interfere too much with the rest of my life. As far as I know, I was never deliberately hostile towards any fellow contributor. If you think differently, leave me a note at my User_talk:Vmv. Please keep in mind I'm not a native English speaker, maybe I never intended to sound rude. == Refrigerator door == My next contributions will probably address one of these issues: {| style="background:transparent; margin-left:15px" |- | valign="top" style="background:#ffffc0; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border: 1px dotted black;" | * Movie stub expasion. Current area of concentration is Stephen Frears. Next area may be Todd Haynes * Volleyball articles on entities. Asian Volleyball Confederation & NORCECA still missing * Articles on notable Volleyball players. Urgent need: Cubans (Regla Torres, Mireya Luis); Brazilians (Maurício Lima, Fernanda Venturini); Italians (Andrea Giani); Americans (Danielle Scott, Kebba Phipps) |} == Desk == === Contributions === So far, I have contributed mainly to the following areas in Wikipedia: {| width="90%" | |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |Volleyball One of the reasons that pushed me into becoming a contributor was the lack of information on this sport. Some of the articles I started (*) or expanded are: Volleyball ı Fédération Internationale de Volleyball* ı Confederación Sudamericana de Voleibol* ı Confédération Européenne de Volleyball* ı Confédération Africaine de Volleyball* ı Volleyball Olympic Tournament* ı Volleyball World League* ı Volleyball Grand Prix* ı Volleyball World Cup* ı Volleyball World Championship* |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |Movies Many films I like are still stubs. I've decided to create no new pages, but simply expand existing articles. This is what I've done so far: The Grifters (film) ı Dangerous Liaisons ı My Beautiful Laundrette |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |Orphaned & dead-end pages I've been also doing some work at orphaned and dead-end pages. This consists essentially of wikifying, categorizing and adding the proper stub tags. Of course, it also includes verifying that the articles are encyclopedic, which sometimes may lead to VfD nominations. |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |VfD My VfD nominations are usually limited to clear cases of vanity, hoax or lack of notability under established policy. No, I've never nominated any school, but I strongly disagree all schools are inherently notable (see below for further discussion). Ocasionally, I also try to rescue from VfD an article I believe should not be deleted. Vfd Score: 7 nominations ı 1 unfinished ı 6 deleted ı 0 kept.
Vfd Rescues: 3 attemps ı 0 open ı 1 failed ı 2 rescued: Karen Holvik, Mortido. |} === Ideas & Concerns === * Inclusionists & Deletionists: Even though Wikipedia is not paper, it is not a general knowledge base either. The fact that something can be verified to exist does not make it encyclopedic. Failure to understand this has flooded VfD with vanity articles, "the street I live in"-articles, "the kiosk I buy my newspaper in"-articles, "the grocery store where I go shopping"-articles, and so on. Of course, issues get much more complicated when people disagree whether a whole class of things is inherently notable. Disagreement of this nature has brought about the ''school issue'' on VfD: Wikipedians have so far failed to reach a consensus whether the fact the an object belongs to the class of "schools" (like one would easily say, for instance, of an object that belongs to the class of "nation presidents") makes it inhenrently notable, hence worthy of an individual article. Lately, this has been the core of the deletionist X inclusionist controvery in Wikipedia. : My position: I do not believe all schools are inherently notable, but I do not believe this make me a deletionist either. I'll refrain from nominating schools for VfD as long as there is no clearly established policy stating which schools should be considered notable, and which not. Nevertheless, I will continue to use my own commonsense to vote. * Stubs: I prefer to write few but long articles, rather than posting a large number of stubs. This is my way of doing things, and not a policy I use to judge other people's work. == Bathroom Thoughts == * Thou shalt be judged by thy favourite books, records & films. See me contributions and my jukebox to judge me. * Drink it up, wine is wine. Do you ''really'' believe a glass does good to your health, but the whole bottle harms it? * Never Microsoft - but if it should be Microsoft, never XP. * Never McDonald's - but if it should be McDonald's, starve. == Phonebook == * Special:Deadendpages * Wikipedia:Images for deletion * MetaWikiPedia:Queer Wikipedians * Special:Lonely Pages * Wikipedia:Template messages * Wikipedia:Utilities * VfD * Wikipedia:Village pump == Door bell == You can ring my bell! Leave a note at my User_talk:Vmv or send me an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Emailuser&target=Vmv email].
== School talk == Hi there! Regarding the ongoing debate on whether or not high schools are notable, I noticed the link you placed to the 'policy discussion' page. I've read through it, but the main problem seems to be that said discussion is over a year old, and that no clear consensus was established. Indeed it would still be impossible to establish a consensus. This assumedly means that articles on schools will be arbitrarily deleted or kept, depending solely on the amount of people that happen to be voting that particular week. What bothers me is that most people who vote for keeping them, either do so with the argument that everything verifiable should be kept, or start insulting the people who vote for deleting. I realize this is an inherent problem of a wiki, but it seems that consensus has been reached on several other matters in the past, so why not here? Do you have a suggestion on how to accomplish this? It's hard to tell which party is actually the majority - not to mention which party is actually 'right' (if there even is such a thing). User:Radiant! 16:09, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC) -- Hi, Radiant! I agree with you in every point. I've also read through the 'policy discussion' page and didn't quite get a hold of what was the consensus on the matter. I placed the link precisely as a way to indicate that my position could not be upheld by an established Wiki policy. And, yes, this means that (IMHO non-notable) schools will be ruled out or kept depending on the number of partisans pro or against inclusion voting in a particular week, which is absolutely regrettable. I suppose the proper way to try to reach a consensus would be through the referred 'policy discussion' page. If it really is over a year old and people are still voting with no support of a generally accepted policy, maybe discussions should be restarted there. The page does seem clustered at the moment, though. I'm still relatively new as a contributor, is there a polite way to reformat it so that new constributions can be more easily made? The sooner we address this problem, the better. Suppose we later reach the consensus that schools should only be allowed when they are "really notable" (whatever that means is also a matter of discussion). Then we'll have to review many "kept" decisions taken in a week where most voters were pros. Suppose the opposite, and the "Votes for Undeletion" page will clustered with requests for pages "deleted" when the majority of voters were against inclusion. User:Vmv 18:04, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC) -- Hi there, Glad to hear that. Personally I believe that any statement along the lines of 'all X are notable' is untenable. I've started two policy discussions on today's VfD page, if that idea catches on then high schools would be a suitable third (so please post your comments in both). Some other thought occured to me... it may be possible to provide an outlet for high schools in one of the other Wikis, in particular WikiTravel. But on Metawiki, there is talk of Wikiteer, which is to include extensive geographical and sociological information, but doesn't exist yet. I'd like to hear your opinion on this. I've asked the same question of a couple of other users, so please respond on User talk:Radiant!/Schools. Thank you. User:Radiant! 14:55, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC) ==Saleel== I'd like to know why you voted to delete, rather than improve, Saleel. Can you tell me why exactly you don't think the Saleel network, which numbers in the thousands of members deserves even a mention? or is it that you dislike the layout, in which case I'd ask what do you believe could be done to improve it ? --User:Irishpunktom\User_talk:Irishpunktom 11:29, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC) * I sincerely appreciate the improvements you made on the page, but I still believe this web forum is not notable enough to deserve an individual article. Regardless of the content, IMHO web forums must be really notable to have individual pages in Wikipedia. Of course, I wouldn't object to Saleel being mentioned in a more general Islam-related article about the Muslim community in England. User:Vmv 16:05, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Pokécruft == From checking on the VfD, I see at least two Pokécruft on there (I voted Delete on both). It looks like things are just getting started. User:Zscout370 21:40, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Yep, I also voted delete on both. From what I've seen so far in VfD, you'll have the opportunity of expressing your oppinion on this matter very soon: Pokécruft comes in every other day. VladMV">User:Vmv ٭ talk">User_talk:Vmv 00:44, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Jonathan Speak and Jonathan speak double trouble ==
I agree both should be VfD as non-notable and possible vanity. I don't know how to make a double nomination. I don't know the proper format or mechanics of that. Please be bold and make one for me, if you like, and I'll support. Thank you. User:Jonathunder 15:41, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC)
== Your sig ==
I'm fairly new here... I just wanted to ask, how did you make your signature like that? With the colors, and the talk link attached? And what do you input to do it? Thanks User:Foodmarket 17:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Wow, thanks --- and check it out! FoodMarket">User:Foodmarket~talk!">User_talk:Foodmarket 19:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
== WP:PNA ==
The procedure you describe appears to be what would be needed to reproduce the precedent of the other sections, though the convention itself seems rather convoluted to me. -- User:Beland 02:39, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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This is the modest cottage of Vmv, a wikipedia contributor. You used to see the word vlad_mv on the mat below the door. As of March 24, 2005, I replaced it with the more fashionable VladMV. == Jukebox == Check out what I'm listening to while working at Wikipedia. You can also see the User:Vmv/PastSoundtracks. Turned Off. Last time I was hear, I was listening to Come (band) ''Don't Ask, Don't Tell'' & Garbage Version 2.0, then Astor Piazzolla (''The Rough Dancer and the Cyclical Night'') & Massive Attack (Mezzanine). == Oven == {| style="float:right; background:transparent; margin-left:15px" |- | {| style="border: 1px solid black; padding : 0px" |- | width="45px" height="45px" style="background:#00c000;" | |- |Status: off |} |} My wikistress level rarely goes up: most of the time, it keeps green. Wikipedia is addictive - I drink and smoke, so I should know. I usually keep my contributions at a level where they won't interfere too much with the rest of my life. As far as I know, I was never deliberately hostile towards any fellow contributor. If you think differently, leave me a note at my User_talk:Vmv. Please keep in mind I'm not a native English speaker, maybe I never intended to sound rude. == Refrigerator door == My next contributions will probably address one of these issues: {| style="background:transparent; margin-left:15px" |- | valign="top" style="background:#ffffc0; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border: 1px dotted black;" | * Movie stub expasion. Current area of concentration is Stephen Frears. Next area may be Todd Haynes * Volleyball articles on entities. Asian Volleyball Confederation & NORCECA still missing * Articles on notable Volleyball players. Urgent need: Cubans (Regla Torres, Mireya Luis); Brazilians (Maurício Lima, Fernanda Venturini); Italians (Andrea Giani); Americans (Danielle Scott, Kebba Phipps) |} == Desk == === Contributions === So far, I have contributed mainly to the following areas in Wikipedia: {| width="90%" | |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |Volleyball One of the reasons that pushed me into becoming a contributor was the lack of information on this sport. Some of the articles I started (*) or expanded are: Volleyball ı Fédération Internationale de Volleyball* ı Confederación Sudamericana de Voleibol* ı Confédération Européenne de Volleyball* ı Confédération Africaine de Volleyball* ı Volleyball Olympic Tournament* ı Volleyball World League* ı Volleyball Grand Prix* ı Volleyball World Cup* ı Volleyball World Championship* |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |Movies Many films I like are still stubs. I've decided to create no new pages, but simply expand existing articles. This is what I've done so far: The Grifters (film) ı Dangerous Liaisons ı My Beautiful Laundrette |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |Orphaned & dead-end pages I've been also doing some work at orphaned and dead-end pages. This consists essentially of wikifying, categorizing and adding the proper stub tags. Of course, it also includes verifying that the articles are encyclopedic, which sometimes may lead to VfD nominations. |- | style="{ padding : 10px }" |VfD My VfD nominations are usually limited to clear cases of vanity, hoax or lack of notability under established policy. No, I've never nominated any school, but I strongly disagree all schools are inherently notable (see below for further discussion). Ocasionally, I also try to rescue from VfD an article I believe should not be deleted. Vfd Score: 7 nominations ı 1 unfinished ı 6 deleted ı 0 kept.
Vfd Rescues: 3 attemps ı 0 open ı 1 failed ı 2 rescued: Karen Holvik, Mortido. |} === Ideas & Concerns === * Inclusionists & Deletionists: Even though Wikipedia is not paper, it is not a general knowledge base either. The fact that something can be verified to exist does not make it encyclopedic. Failure to understand this has flooded VfD with vanity articles, "the street I live in"-articles, "the kiosk I buy my newspaper in"-articles, "the grocery store where I go shopping"-articles, and so on. Of course, issues get much more complicated when people disagree whether a whole class of things is inherently notable. Disagreement of this nature has brought about the ''school issue'' on VfD: Wikipedians have so far failed to reach a consensus whether the fact the an object belongs to the class of "schools" (like one would easily say, for instance, of an object that belongs to the class of "nation presidents") makes it inhenrently notable, hence worthy of an individual article. Lately, this has been the core of the deletionist X inclusionist controvery in Wikipedia. : My position: I do not believe all schools are inherently notable, but I do not believe this make me a deletionist either. I'll refrain from nominating schools for VfD as long as there is no clearly established policy stating which schools should be considered notable, and which not. Nevertheless, I will continue to use my own commonsense to vote. * Stubs: I prefer to write few but long articles, rather than posting a large number of stubs. This is my way of doing things, and not a policy I use to judge other people's work. == Bathroom Thoughts == * Thou shalt be judged by thy favourite books, records & films. See me contributions and my jukebox to judge me. * Drink it up, wine is wine. Do you ''really'' believe a glass does good to your health, but the whole bottle harms it? * Never Microsoft - but if it should be Microsoft, never XP. * Never McDonald's - but if it should be McDonald's, starve. == Phonebook == * Special:Deadendpages * Wikipedia:Images for deletion * MetaWikiPedia:Queer Wikipedians * Special:Lonely Pages * Wikipedia:Template messages * Wikipedia:Utilities * VfD * Wikipedia:Village pump == Door bell == You can ring my bell! Leave a note at my User_talk:Vmv or send me an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Emailuser&target=Vmv email].
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== School talk == Hi there! Regarding the ongoing debate on whether or not high schools are notable, I noticed the link you placed to the 'policy discussion' page. I've read through it, but the main problem seems to be that said discussion is over a year old, and that no clear consensus was established. Indeed it would still be impossible to establish a consensus. This assumedly means that articles on schools will be arbitrarily deleted or kept, depending solely on the amount of people that happen to be voting that particular week. What bothers me is that most people who vote for keeping them, either do so with the argument that everything verifiable should be kept, or start insulting the people who vote for deleting. I realize this is an inherent problem of a wiki, but it seems that consensus has been reached on several other matters in the past, so why not here? Do you have a suggestion on how to accomplish this? It's hard to tell which party is actually the majority - not to mention which party is actually 'right' (if there even is such a thing). User:Radiant! 16:09, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC) -- Hi, Radiant! I agree with you in every point. I've also read through the 'policy discussion' page and didn't quite get a hold of what was the consensus on the matter. I placed the link precisely as a way to indicate that my position could not be upheld by an established Wiki policy. And, yes, this means that (IMHO non-notable) schools will be ruled out or kept depending on the number of partisans pro or against inclusion voting in a particular week, which is absolutely regrettable. I suppose the proper way to try to reach a consensus would be through the referred 'policy discussion' page. If it really is over a year old and people are still voting with no support of a generally accepted policy, maybe discussions should be restarted there. The page does seem clustered at the moment, though. I'm still relatively new as a contributor, is there a polite way to reformat it so that new constributions can be more easily made? The sooner we address this problem, the better. Suppose we later reach the consensus that schools should only be allowed when they are "really notable" (whatever that means is also a matter of discussion). Then we'll have to review many "kept" decisions taken in a week where most voters were pros. Suppose the opposite, and the "Votes for Undeletion" page will clustered with requests for pages "deleted" when the majority of voters were against inclusion. User:Vmv 18:04, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC) -- Hi there, Glad to hear that. Personally I believe that any statement along the lines of 'all X are notable' is untenable. I've started two policy discussions on today's VfD page, if that idea catches on then high schools would be a suitable third (so please post your comments in both). Some other thought occured to me... it may be possible to provide an outlet for high schools in one of the other Wikis, in particular WikiTravel. But on Metawiki, there is talk of Wikiteer, which is to include extensive geographical and sociological information, but doesn't exist yet. I'd like to hear your opinion on this. I've asked the same question of a couple of other users, so please respond on User talk:Radiant!/Schools. Thank you. User:Radiant! 14:55, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC) ==Saleel== I'd like to know why you voted to delete, rather than improve, Saleel. Can you tell me why exactly you don't think the Saleel network, which numbers in the thousands of members deserves even a mention? or is it that you dislike the layout, in which case I'd ask what do you believe could be done to improve it ? --User:Irishpunktom\User_talk:Irishpunktom 11:29, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC) * I sincerely appreciate the improvements you made on the page, but I still believe this web forum is not notable enough to deserve an individual article. Regardless of the content, IMHO web forums must be really notable to have individual pages in Wikipedia. Of course, I wouldn't object to Saleel being mentioned in a more general Islam-related article about the Muslim community in England. User:Vmv 16:05, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Pokécruft == From checking on the VfD, I see at least two Pokécruft on there (I voted Delete on both). It looks like things are just getting started. User:Zscout370 21:40, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Yep, I also voted delete on both. From what I've seen so far in VfD, you'll have the opportunity of expressing your oppinion on this matter very soon: Pokécruft comes in every other day. Vlad
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