
If the person who has removed the 'a' from the end of Veda and Vyasa has a reason could they say so? They have negated the links. I am restoring the 'a's. This page is in English, so should use standard English language spellings of non-English words. user ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I guess your reason for standard spellings of non-english words is okay. The a's in the end were probably removed because they give an incorrect impression of the pronounciation. All the words like Veda, Upanishada, Yoga etc, are actually pronounced as Yog, Upanishaad, and Ved. So while the standard English spellings could be retained, it could also mentioned that the a's are silent. user Actually the pronunciation is Yog-uh and Ved-uh in Sanskrit. Yog and Ved render the words without a case. Also, to pronounce the word without completing the last alphabet is more common in Hindi and Urdu than Sanskrit. I believe the basis for a lot of Sankrit words being spelt in English with an 'a' at the end has to do with either ensuring that the sound for the ':' mathra is achieved, or that the last alphabet is completely pronounced. In such a case, Sita would actually be spelt Sitaa. == The Four Books of the Vedas == Hello, Someone edited the "The Four Books of the Vedas" section to read "The Four Books of ollie", apparently today (20-Oct). A look at the last revision shows that a section of text was also deleted. Can someone familiar with the editing process please fix this? Thank you. ==move== this should be moved to Veda (singular), like Brahmana, Aranyaka, Upanishad (also Shrautasutra, Grhyasutra). User:Dbachmann 08:54, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC) --- ==Vedas only for Hindus?== Hi! I'm not an expert in Hindu philosophy, but as far as I know, the Vedas were not written with the Hindu religion in mind. It is not a religious scripture meant for Hinduism as many people feel. It was written long before there was even a concept called religion. It's just a doubt. Can someone clarify? User:Jam2k 21:26, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC) == Copyvio == ''Moved from Wikipedia:Copyright problems'' *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Vedas&oldid=7711588 Vedas] (old edition) from [http://www.ambedkar.org/riddleinhinduism/21A1.Riddles%20in%20Hinduism%20PART%20I.htm]. From "There is hardly any Hindu" up to "Why this circumlocution?" - User:Vague Rant | User talk:Vague Rant 07:56, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC) **Special:Contributions/203.199.120.7 is a serial copyright violator. I have commented on his user page twice, and since I have noticed that in addition to violations I have found, User:BrokenSegue also removed Problems In Hinduism, a repost of Riddle In Hinduism, which I removed. - User:Vague Rant | User talk:Vague Rant 08:10, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC) ''End moved text'' Copyvio revisions deleted from article history. -- User:Cyrius|User talk:Cyrius 01:32, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC) == Vedam == Vedas are also referred to as Vedam in the various Indian languages. Hence i added "Vedam" too as part of the intro to Vedas.
The Vedas (also referred to as Vedam) are part of the Hinduism ''Shruti''; these religion scriptures form part of the core of the Brahminical and Vedic traditions within Hinduism and are the inspirational, metaphysical and mythological foundation for later Vedanta, Yoga, Tantra and even Bhakti forms of Hinduism. In Sanskrit language the word means ''Knowledge'' or ''Truth'', and is cognate with the word "wisdom" in English (as well as "vision" through Latin). (Strictly the word 'ved' is singular, 'veda' is plural, but traditionally the word is given in English as 'veda' in the singular and 'vedas' in the plural.) In chronological order the four Vedas are the Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, Sama Veda and Atharva Veda. ==Origins of the Vedas== In Hindu tradition the Vedas are said to be eternal: to have existed since time immemorial as vibrations in space, some portions of which are believed to have been percieved by seers and transmitted accordingly via an oral tradition. The historical origin of the Vedas has, however, been debated by both Indian and Western culture scholars with diverse conclusions. Some believe that the Vedas were transmitted oral tradition for up to 8000 years (see ''Mary Pat Fisher''). Most Western and a few Indian commentators see this as an exaggeration and date the earliest part of the Veda, the Rig-Veda, to around 18th century BCE–1500s BCE. However, it is acknowledged by most that the Vedas did indeed have a long oral tradition and were passed from teacher to disciple for at least many centuries before first being written down. According to tradition, the hymns of the Rig-Veda Samhita were collected and arranged by Paila under the supervision of Vyasa. Hymns which were particularly chanted during religious and social ceremonies were compiled by Vaishampayan under the title Yajus mantr Samhita (see Yajur-Veda). Jaimini is said to have collected hymns that were set to music and melody — 'Saman' (see Sama-Veda). The fourth collection of hymns and chants known as Atharv Samhita (Atharva-Veda) is ascribed to Sumantu. The Vedas are considered by some to be the world's first scripture. They are certainly the oldest still in use as part of a continuous tradition. They are perhaps the oldest coherent and complex body of knowledge detailing astrology, astronomy, ritual practice, and how these relate to the spiritual life of humanity. ==The four books of the Vedas== The Hindu scriptures consist of four separate collections (or Samhitas) of sacred texts, or mantrcjs, including hymns, incantations and sacrificial forms of prayer. The Atharva-Veda, Rig-Veda, Sama-Veda, and the Yajur-Veda are not all equal in status. The last three are referred to as the "''Threefold Ved''". The ''Atharva-Veda'' is often deemed to be significantly less authoritative. ''Vedanta'' is the culmination of all Vedas or the essense of all vedas. The original text of the ''Veda'' is known as the Samhita. However the Samhitas are supplemented by many commentaries and explanations, forming the 'Shruti' as a whole. The most developed of these commentaries, the Upanishads, engage in philosophical speculation about the implications of the ancient invocations, mantras and rituals recorded in the Samhitas. Thus the Vedas are structured rather like a venerated work of classic literature supported by elaborate footnotes and introductory essays explaining its hidden complexities. In the traditional Hindu understanding, Vedas are said to be non-personal and without beginning or end. This means that the truths embodied in the Vedas are eternal and that they are not creations of the human mind. The four Vedas Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda and Atharvaveda are divided into four sections: * The Samhitas - Contains the mantras and hymns * The Brahmanas - The ritualistic teachings * The Aranyakas - The meditational section * The Upanishads - The mystic and philosophical section, also known as Vedanta, or the end of the Vedas, implying the culmination of Vedic thought; since the time of Adi Sankara they have exerted the most active influence on Hindu thought Each of these four text-books has attached to it a body of prose writings, called Brdhmati, intended to explain the ceremonial application of the texts and the origin and import of the sacrificial rites for which these were supposed to have been composed. Usually attached to these works, and in some cases to the Sa1phitgs, are two kinds of appendages, the Aranyakas and Upanishads, the former of which deal generally with the more recondite rites, while the latter are taken up chiefly with speculations on the problems of the universe and the religious aims of man, subjects often touched upon in the earlier writings, but here dealt with in a more mature and systematic way. Two of the Samhitas, tile Saman and the Yajus, owing their existence to purely ritual purposes, and being, besides, the one almost entirely, the other partly, composed of verses taken from the rigveda. The hymns of the rigveda constitute the earliest lyrical effusions which have been handed down to posterity. They are certainly not all equally old; on the contrary they evidently represent the literary activity of many generations of bards, though their relative age cannot as yet be determined with anything like certainty. The tenth (and last) book of the collection, however, at any rate has all the characteristics of a later appendage, and in language and spirit many of its hymns approach very nearly to the level of the contents of the Atharvan. Of the latter collection about one-sixth is found also in the Rigveda, and especially in the tenth book; the larger portion peculiar to it, though including no doubt some, older pieces, appears to owe its origin to an age not long anterior to the composition of the Brahmins. The religion of the Vedic period, particularly at its earliest, was distinct in a number of respects, including reference to females in positions of religious authority (female rishis, or sages), an apparent lack of belief in reincarnation, and a markedly different pantheon, with Indra generally the chief god, and little mention of the later primary gods Vishnu, and Shiva, although Brahma does appear quite frequently. ==The views of the Vedas: Monism, Monotheism, Henotheism and Polytheism== While Hinduism is generally monistic or monotheistic admitting emanating deities, the early Rig Veda (undeveloped early Hinduism) was what Max Müller based his views of Henotheism on. In the four Vedas, Müller believed that a striving towards One was being aimed at by the worship of different cosmic principles, such as Agni (fire), Vayu (wind), Indra (rain, thunder, the sky; also the King of gods), etc. each of which was variously, by clearly different writers, hailed as supreme in different sections of the books. Indeed, however, what was confusing was an early idea of Rita, or supreme order, that bound all the gods. Other phrases such as ''ekam sat, vipraha bahudha vadanti'' (Truth is One though the sages know it as many) lead to understandings that the Vedic people admitted of fundamental oneness. Attempts even at monism were attempted by subordinating other gods to singular entities or gods of supreme power, three most notably being Vishwakarma, Indra and Varuna, though Indra was the most eulogized as supreme in his 200 Rig Vedic verses. From this mix of monism, monotheism and naturalist polytheism Max Müller decided to name the early Vedic religion henotheistic. He decided that while polytheism did not fit with views so clearly admitting of fundamental unity, monism in his opinion was not yet fully developed. This, however, is clearly a one-man view. Extremely advanced, indeed unprecedented and thitherto unduplicated ideas of pure monism are to be found in the early Vedas, notwithstanding clearly monist and monotheist movements of Hinduism that developed with the advent of the Upanishads. One such example of early Vedic monism is the Nasadiya hymn of the Rig Veda: " That One breathed by itself without breath, other than it there has been nothing." To collectively term the Vedas henotheistic, and thus further leaning towards polytheism, rather than monotheism, is to ignore the clearly monist bent of the Vedas that laid the foundation for the Upanishads as early as 1000s BCE. ==Cosmogony of the Vedas== The Vedic view of the world and cosmogony sees one true divine principle self-projecting as the divine word, Vaak, 'birthing' the cosmos that we know from the monistic 'Hiranyagarbha' or Golden Womb, a primordial sun figure that is equivalent to Lord Surya. The varied gods like Vayu (of wind), Indra (King of Gods), Rudra (the Destroyer), Agni (Fire, the sacrifical medium) and the goddess Saraswati (the Divine Word, aka Vaak) are just some examples of the myriad aspects of the one underlying nature of the universe. ==External links== * [http://www.stephen-knapp.com/complete_review_of_vedic_literature.htm A Complete Review of Vedic Literature] * [http://www.comparative-religion.com/hinduism/vedas/ Vedas: Rig, Sama, Yajur, and Artharva] * [http://www.vedah.com/org/index.asp Excellent site about Vedas (Aurobindo)] * [http://san.beck.org/EC7-Vedas.html Veda and Upanishads] * [http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/ VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online (Vaishnava and general)] * [http://sarasvati.tripod.com/veda.htm Vedic Chanting .mp3 audio files] See also: pandit ==References== *Mary Pat Fisher -- ''Living Religions'' (5th Edition -- 2002), p.82 Hindu texts Holy scripture Religious texts
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If the person who has removed the 'a' from the end of Veda and Vyasa has a reason could they say so? They have negated the links. I am restoring the 'a's. This page is in English, so should use standard English language spellings of non-English words. user ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I guess your reason for standard spellings of non-english words is okay. The a's in the end were probably removed because they give an incorrect impression of the pronounciation. All the words like Veda, Upanishada, Yoga etc, are actually pronounced as Yog, Upanishaad, and Ved. So while the standard English spellings could be retained, it could also mentioned that the a's are silent. user Actually the pronunciation is Yog-uh and Ved-uh in Sanskrit. Yog and Ved render the words without a case. Also, to pronounce the word without completing the last alphabet is more common in Hindi and Urdu than Sanskrit. I believe the basis for a lot of Sankrit words being spelt in English with an 'a' at the end has to do with either ensuring that the sound for the ':' mathra is achieved, or that the last alphabet is completely pronounced. In such a case, Sita would actually be spelt Sitaa. == The Four Books of the Vedas == Hello, Someone edited the "The Four Books of the Vedas" section to read "The Four Books of ollie", apparently today (20-Oct). A look at the last revision shows that a section of text was also deleted. Can someone familiar with the editing process please fix this? Thank you. ==move== this should be moved to Veda (singular), like Brahmana, Aranyaka, Upanishad (also Shrautasutra, Grhyasutra). User:Dbachmann 08:54, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC) --- ==Vedas only for Hindus?== Hi! I'm not an expert in Hindu philosophy, but as far as I know, the Vedas were not written with the Hindu religion in mind. It is not a religious scripture meant for Hinduism as many people feel. It was written long before there was even a concept called religion. It's just a doubt. Can someone clarify? User:Jam2k 21:26, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC) == Copyvio == ''Moved from Wikipedia:Copyright problems'' *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Vedas&oldid=7711588 Vedas] (old edition) from [http://www.ambedkar.org/riddleinhinduism/21A1.Riddles%20in%20Hinduism%20PART%20I.htm]. From "There is hardly any Hindu" up to "Why this circumlocution?" - User:Vague Rant | User talk:Vague Rant 07:56, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC) **Special:Contributions/203.199.120.7 is a serial copyright violator. I have commented on his user page twice, and since I have noticed that in addition to violations I have found, User:BrokenSegue also removed Problems In Hinduism, a repost of Riddle In Hinduism, which I removed. - User:Vague Rant | User talk:Vague Rant 08:10, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC) ''End moved text'' Copyvio revisions deleted from article history. -- User:Cyrius|User talk:Cyrius 01:32, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC) == Vedam == Vedas are also referred to as Vedam in the various Indian languages. Hence i added "Vedam" too as part of the intro to Vedas.
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The Vedas (also referred to as Vedam) are part of the Hinduism ''Shruti''; these religion scriptures form part of the core of the Brahminical and Vedic traditions within Hinduism and are the inspirational, metaphysical and mythological foundation for later Vedanta, Yoga, Tantra and even Bhakti forms of Hinduism. In Sanskrit language the word means ''Knowledge'' or ''Truth'', and is cognate with the word "wisdom" in English (as well as "vision" through Latin). (Strictly the word 'ved' is singular, 'veda' is plural, but traditionally the word is given in English as 'veda' in the singular and 'vedas' in the plural.) In chronological order the four Vedas are the Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, Sama Veda and Atharva Veda. ==Origins of the Vedas== In Hindu tradition the Vedas are said to be eternal: to have existed since time immemorial as vibrations in space, some portions of which are believed to have been percieved by seers and transmitted accordingly via an oral tradition. The historical origin of the Vedas has, however, been debated by both Indian and Western culture scholars with diverse conclusions. Some believe that the Vedas were transmitted oral tradition for up to 8000 years (see ''Mary Pat Fisher''). Most Western and a few Indian commentators see this as an exaggeration and date the earliest part of the Veda, the Rig-Veda, to around 18th century BCE–1500s BCE. However, it is acknowledged by most that the Vedas did indeed have a long oral tradition and were passed from teacher to disciple for at least many centuries before first being written down. According to tradition, the hymns of the Rig-Veda Samhita were collected and arranged by Paila under the supervision of Vyasa. Hymns which were particularly chanted during religious and social ceremonies were compiled by Vaishampayan under the title Yajus mantr Samhita (see Yajur-Veda). Jaimini is said to have collected hymns that were set to music and melody — 'Saman' (see Sama-Veda). The fourth collection of hymns and chants known as Atharv Samhita (Atharva-Veda) is ascribed to Sumantu. The Vedas are considered by some to be the world's first scripture. They are certainly the oldest still in use as part of a continuous tradition. They are perhaps the oldest coherent and complex body of knowledge detailing astrology, astronomy, ritual practice, and how these relate to the spiritual life of humanity. ==The four books of the Vedas== The Hindu scriptures consist of four separate collections (or Samhitas) of sacred texts, or mantrcjs, including hymns, incantations and sacrificial forms of prayer. The Atharva-Veda, Rig-Veda, Sama-Veda, and the Yajur-Veda are not all equal in status. The last three are referred to as the "''Threefold Ved''". The ''Atharva-Veda'' is often deemed to be significantly less authoritative. ''Vedanta'' is the culmination of all Vedas or the essense of all vedas. The original text of the ''Veda'' is known as the Samhita. However the Samhitas are supplemented by many commentaries and explanations, forming the 'Shruti' as a whole. The most developed of these commentaries, the Upanishads, engage in philosophical speculation about the implications of the ancient invocations, mantras and rituals recorded in the Samhitas. Thus the Vedas are structured rather like a venerated work of classic literature supported by elaborate footnotes and introductory essays explaining its hidden complexities. In the traditional Hindu understanding, Vedas are said to be non-personal and without beginning or end. This means that the truths embodied in the Vedas are eternal and that they are not creations of the human mind. The four Vedas Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda and Atharvaveda are divided into four sections: * The Samhitas - Contains the mantras and hymns * The Brahmanas - The ritualistic teachings * The Aranyakas - The meditational section * The Upanishads - The mystic and philosophical section, also known as Vedanta, or the end of the Vedas, implying the culmination of Vedic thought; since the time of Adi Sankara they have exerted the most active influence on Hindu thought Each of these four text-books has attached to it a body of prose writings, called Brdhmati, intended to explain the ceremonial application of the texts and the origin and import of the sacrificial rites for which these were supposed to have been composed. Usually attached to these works, and in some cases to the Sa1phitgs, are two kinds of appendages, the Aranyakas and Upanishads, the former of which deal generally with the more recondite rites, while the latter are taken up chiefly with speculations on the problems of the universe and the religious aims of man, subjects often touched upon in the earlier writings, but here dealt with in a more mature and systematic way. Two of the Samhitas, tile Saman and the Yajus, owing their existence to purely ritual purposes, and being, besides, the one almost entirely, the other partly, composed of verses taken from the rigveda. The hymns of the rigveda constitute the earliest lyrical effusions which have been handed down to posterity. They are certainly not all equally old; on the contrary they evidently represent the literary activity of many generations of bards, though their relative age cannot as yet be determined with anything like certainty. The tenth (and last) book of the collection, however, at any rate has all the characteristics of a later appendage, and in language and spirit many of its hymns approach very nearly to the level of the contents of the Atharvan. Of the latter collection about one-sixth is found also in the Rigveda, and especially in the tenth book; the larger portion peculiar to it, though including no doubt some, older pieces, appears to owe its origin to an age not long anterior to the composition of the Brahmins. The religion of the Vedic period, particularly at its earliest, was distinct in a number of respects, including reference to females in positions of religious authority (female rishis, or sages), an apparent lack of belief in reincarnation, and a markedly different pantheon, with Indra generally the chief god, and little mention of the later primary gods Vishnu, and Shiva, although Brahma does appear quite frequently. ==The views of the Vedas: Monism, Monotheism, Henotheism and Polytheism== While Hinduism is generally monistic or monotheistic admitting emanating deities, the early Rig Veda (undeveloped early Hinduism) was what Max Müller based his views of Henotheism on. In the four Vedas, Müller believed that a striving towards One was being aimed at by the worship of different cosmic principles, such as Agni (fire), Vayu (wind), Indra (rain, thunder, the sky; also the King of gods), etc. each of which was variously, by clearly different writers, hailed as supreme in different sections of the books. Indeed, however, what was confusing was an early idea of Rita, or supreme order, that bound all the gods. Other phrases such as ''ekam sat, vipraha bahudha vadanti'' (Truth is One though the sages know it as many) lead to understandings that the Vedic people admitted of fundamental oneness. Attempts even at monism were attempted by subordinating other gods to singular entities or gods of supreme power, three most notably being Vishwakarma, Indra and Varuna, though Indra was the most eulogized as supreme in his 200 Rig Vedic verses. From this mix of monism, monotheism and naturalist polytheism Max Müller decided to name the early Vedic religion henotheistic. He decided that while polytheism did not fit with views so clearly admitting of fundamental unity, monism in his opinion was not yet fully developed. This, however, is clearly a one-man view. Extremely advanced, indeed unprecedented and thitherto unduplicated ideas of pure monism are to be found in the early Vedas, notwithstanding clearly monist and monotheist movements of Hinduism that developed with the advent of the Upanishads. One such example of early Vedic monism is the Nasadiya hymn of the Rig Veda: " That One breathed by itself without breath, other than it there has been nothing." To collectively term the Vedas henotheistic, and thus further leaning towards polytheism, rather than monotheism, is to ignore the clearly monist bent of the Vedas that laid the foundation for the Upanishads as early as 1000s BCE. ==Cosmogony of the Vedas== The Vedic view of the world and cosmogony sees one true divine principle self-projecting as the divine word, Vaak, 'birthing' the cosmos that we know from the monistic 'Hiranyagarbha' or Golden Womb, a primordial sun figure that is equivalent to Lord Surya. The varied gods like Vayu (of wind), Indra (King of Gods), Rudra (the Destroyer), Agni (Fire, the sacrifical medium) and the goddess Saraswati (the Divine Word, aka Vaak) are just some examples of the myriad aspects of the one underlying nature of the universe. ==External links== * [http://www.stephen-knapp.com/complete_review_of_vedic_literature.htm A Complete Review of Vedic Literature] * [http://www.comparative-religion.com/hinduism/vedas/ Vedas: Rig, Sama, Yajur, and Artharva] * [http://www.vedah.com/org/index.asp Excellent site about Vedas (Aurobindo)] * [http://san.beck.org/EC7-Vedas.html Veda and Upanishads] * [http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/ VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online (Vaishnava and general)] * [http://sarasvati.tripod.com/veda.htm Vedic Chanting .mp3 audio files] See also: pandit ==References== *Mary Pat Fisher -- ''Living Religions'' (5th Edition -- 2002), p.82 Hindu texts Holy scripture Religious texts
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