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Again, welcome! --User:JYolkowski // User talk:JYolkowski 01:15, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Do not unilaterally remove photographs == If you disagree with the pics of notable DJs and musicians contributed by Alkivar, please refer to the talk page and discuss your proposed changes. Do not unilaterally remove photographs from articles. —user:Radman1 (User_talk:Radman1) 01:09, 6 May 2005 (UTC) : I have, and I've gotten a third opinion, which is clearly in favor of me. Not only that, but I have NO DOUBT that the broad majority of wikipedians would agree with my assessment of those pics. They are awful. User:Themindset 22:30, 9 May 2005 (UTC) :: Your "third opinion" would sure hold more weight if it came from someone with more than 4 edits to Wikipedia. Sorry. The reason that these photographs ''are'' beneficial is that they depict a musician at a musical festival and are released as GFDL or Public Domain by the author. There are no rights issues for Wikipedia to be concerned about down the road with these photos; the same cannot be said for something which might better suit your personal tastes pulled off the internet as "fair use". Move along. —user:Radman1 (User_talk:Radman1) 00:17, 10 May 2005 (UTC) You do not have the right to unilaterally judge someone's "worthiness" to give a third opinion. I have followed procedure. Additionally, I have contacts with most of these artists from my days as a promoter and have contacted them for pics to be released for use on Wikipedia. You cannot unilaterally decide to go against THIRD OPINION. You need to make an RFC. User:Themindset 17:02, 10 May 2005 (UTC) Regarding the picture issue, Alkivar has mentioned that he wouldn't be averse to you photoshopping him out of the picture. Other people have done it in other pictures and he was fine with it. User:CryptoDerk 00:40, May 11, 2005 (UTC) Although the presence of the poster in the pics is the worst part, there's also the significant fact that the pics themselves are terrible, not "encyclopedic" quality by any stretch. User:Themindset 04:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC) : To compromise, I am leaving some of your changes as-is, with the exception (for now) of AK1200. Generally speaking, it is much better to use images from the Public Domain rather than something copyrighted, especially when baring in mind that there may/will be an English Wikipedia DVD released soon (just as hard copies of the German Wikipedia [http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3898530205] are already available on Amazon.de), giving special consideration to potential licensing issues. I hope you understand. —user:Radman1 (User_talk:Radman1) 01:35, 20 May 2005 (UTC) i receive those pics from their respective agents. we have permission. i'm changing AK1200 back, it is more appropriate. i don't understand you, i really really don't. User:Themindset 06:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC) additionally, i find your entire attitude distinctly distasteful. you indirectly insult me with terms like "sockpuppet", and you use passive aggressive phrasing like "I am leaving some of your changes as-is"... the changes i have made are all clearly better pictures, pictures that both fans and the artists would prefer to see. why oh why, mr radman, do you insist so consistently on promoting mediocrity? User:Themindset 06:43, 20 May 2005 (UTC) : That the AK1200 image you've uploaded is "clearly better" is a matter of personal opinion, one which I disagree with. The one you have uploaded is fuzzy, the one that Alkivar uploaded is crisp and sharp in detail. The one that you uploaded is verifiably copyrighted, the one that Alkivar uploaded is released into the public domain. The choice is pretty clear. —user:Radman1 (User_talk:Radman1) 14:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC) I can't believe this is a disagreement. We have a wikipedian who has put a picture of himself in at least a dozen articles (incidentily, mostly articles that relate to a style of music and community that I'm affiliated with) - this is not acceptable. But not only that, but you've insisted in the past that I find better pics. WELL I GOT THESE PICS FROM THE ARTISTS AND THEIR AGENTS. The copyright has been released for promotional purposes! Do you think that other wikipedians in other styles of music, or even other areas of interest, would tolerate someone putting themselves in all kinds of pictures? Why don't I go take a picture of myself standing in front of the eifel tower and put that on the Eiffel Tower page? Why don't I take a picture of myself next to Cline Dion and put that on the Cline Dion page? Those pics wouldn't last long - for the same reasons why these pics of Alkivar with all these drum n bass DJs have to go. They are not in the spirit of Wiki. User:Themindset 15:55, 20 May 2005 (UTC) : I have to say that though I don't much care for Themindset's attitude, I agree with this point. I have myself removed Alkivar's photograph with DJ Dimitri from the "Deee-Lite" article and replaced it with a CD cover. When discussing this with Alkivar I explained to him that the photograph was not a photo of Deee-Lite, but a photo of "User Alkivar with DJ Dimitri of Deee-Lite". It is not appropriate for photographs to be posted where 50% of the subject of the photo is not relevant to the article topic. And though he seems a nice enough fellow, it seems like a bit of braggary and self promotion for him to keep doing so. I think that he should be cropping HIMSELF out of these photographs before posting them, if he really wants them included on wikipedia. Bless his heart for trying, but that's just how I feel. You would never look up "apple" in an encyclopedia and have a big giant picture of some woman holding an apple, right? User:Pacian 10:01, 23 May 2005 (UTC) Although I do not know any of the users involved in this dispute, I would like to work to raise the quality of the drum and bass entries on the Wikipedia. Regarding the pictures, the frequent inclusion of one user in so many of the pictures looks like self-promotion, whether it is or not, and should therefore be jettisoned in favour of the promotional photos of the artists available from their websites. Also, the quality of some of these articles reflects badly on the scene as a whole (this is not directed at any particular user) - Wikipedia does not function as a reference tool if articles on major musical figures omit biographical details in favour of assessment of their performances. The Grooverider article was lacking in this area.User:Will Lakeman 16:11, 20 May 2005 (UTC) note: after 3 people, plus one more on the Ron Jeremy page have expressed their opinion against Alkivar's self-inclusion, Rad Man continues to revert the AK1200 article to the Alkivar picture. User:Themindset 00:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC) : I think Radman might have got a bit offended by the tone of some of the discussion - although his first post here could also do with being a bit lighter on the dos and do nots. Either way though, a promotional picture featuring solely the artist in question is not a good idea for the Wikipedia. As he seems to obejct to the quality of the AK1200 picture, can anybody find another promotional picture (featuring ak1200 only) to add to the page? User:Will Lakeman 20:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC) == jungle music == Nice one. I might add a few little bits to it (maybe about the supposed racist connotations of the world jungle, and the word junglist), but otherwise I think shorter is better. Did you see stevekeiretsu's comments on my talk page? I think some of the suggestions are really good. User:Will Lakeman 21:08, 26 May 2005 (UTC) I already posted about it on your talk page, the motivation to finally edit Jungle music came from his comment... for sake of continuity, just respond on your talk page, i'm watching it. User:Themindset 21:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC) == Debate over photos == User: Radman1 seem to be quite offended about the removal of Alkivar from the drum and bass photos. However, people keep talking about how bad it is that all the dnb articles contain shots of this guy, so i think they need to be replaced. I would propose soliciting a higher-quality shot of AK1200 from a photographer and replacing the shot with that - presumably Radman will have no objection then. I may then contact Alkivar if Radman1 keeps reverting the articles. Also, I don't quite see the precedent for public domain shots - all of the otehr musician pics are 'fair use' although there may just be a section of the Wikipedia discussion that I haven't found yet. User:Will Lakeman 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC) == Garry Kasparov Game 6 == I edited the page yesterday because it is misleading to suggest that White had a better position in this game. It APPEARED to be a better position. I encourage you to do some more research on this game, you'll find that it was a drawn position. I'll update the page once more with the changes I made last night It was not a drawn game. Do some basic analysis with any chess engine, and let it analize for 15 to 20 minutes. Also, try playing through the lines i mentioned. User:Themindset 20:14, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) ThemindsetI am themindset. More coming soon... I don't see you being accused of being me. The only reference to my ID is made by yourself for reasons I cannot fathom. User:KatzenjammerKid 21:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC) See other meanings of words starting from letter: TTA | TB | TC | TD | TE | TF | TG | TH | TI | TJ | TK | TL | TŁ | TM | TN | TO | TP | TR | TS | TU | TW | TX | TY | TZ |Words begining with Themindset: Themindset Themindset |
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