The White Stripes are a minimalist rock and roll duo from Detroit, formed in 1997 in music, composed of Jack White (musician) and Meg White, who rose to prominence with their albums ''White Blood Cells (album)'' and the retro ''Elephant (album)''. == Career == Billing themselves as brother and sister, guitarist and singer Jack White (musician) and drummer Meg White released their self-titled debut album in 1999 in music. (In reality, they are ex-husband-and-wife and Meg is seven months older than Jack; their divorce papers were revealed on the website The Smoking Gun.) They were a struggling local musical band in Detroit for a long time, even after touring with Pavement (band) and Sleater-Kinney. The second release from the White Stripes, ''De Stijl'' (2000), was named after the De Stijl, which they cited as a source for the approach to their music and image. The ''De Stijl (album)'' album cover pictures a sample art piece from this movement, made in 3 colors - red, white, and black - characteristic of the duo's uniforms. The number 3 also has significance for this band, not only for their tri-colored uniforms but their 3 instruments: vocals, guitar and drums, although Jack occasionally plays organ and piano. Their stripped-down, garage rock sound made them a much hyped-band in 2002 in music, as a result of the critical raves given to the major label release of ''White Blood Cells (album)'' in 2001. The White Stripes enjoyed their first significant success in the United Kingdom in 2001, with the critical acclaim, especially for the band's energetic stage performances, spreading to the US in the following months. They have no bass guitar, and several musicians have produced unofficial bass-added tracks. In 2002, Q_(magazine) named The White Stripes as one of the "50 Bands To See Before You Die". The Lego-themed video, produced by Michael Gondry for the single "Fell in Love With a Girl" (off White Blood Cells), brought them attention outside music circles. Their follow-up to ''White Blood Cells'', entitled ''Elephant (album)'', was released on April 1, 2003 in music, again to widespread critical acclaim. ''Elephant'' became The White Stripes' first UK chart-topper and US Top 10 album. On February 8, 2004 the song "Seven Nation Army" won a Grammy for best Rock Song, and the album ''Elephant'' won for best Alternative Album. In 2003, Jack and Meg White appeared in Jim Jarmusch's film, ''Coffee and Cigarettes'' in a segment entitled "Jack Shows Meg His Tesla Coil." Released in 2004, the ''Under Blackpool Lights'' DVD has a special treat for fans who collect their bootlegs; it contains every major live cover that the band played during the 2003-2004 tours, approximately a dozen songs. Jack White alerted fans to secrets within the film on his site postings, one of which was sure to be the writing on his arm. Recorded over two nights shows, this writing says ''NOXIOUS'' which changes to ''OBNOXIOUS'' at certain point when film from a different night is used. A fifth album, ''Get Behind Me Satan'', was released in North America on June 7, 2005 and has already garnered critical acclaim. Its first single, titled "Blue Orchid", is currently a popular song on satellite radio and occasionally FM stations.[http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2005/apr05/20050403_whitestripes.html] On June 1, 2005 Jack White and model Karen Elson were married during the band's tour of South America. The band's manager Ian Montone was the best man and Meg White was the Maid of Honor. Jack White's new spouse also appears in the video for Blue Orchid. The [http://www.whitestripes.com White Stripes website] claimed "this was the first marriage for both newlyweds", despite documentation showing that Jack and Meg were once married. ==Discography== ===Albums=== #''The White Stripes (album)'' (1999, Sympathy for the Record Industry) #''De Stijl (album)'' (2000, Sympathy for the Record Industry) #''White Blood Cells (album)'' (2001, Sympathy for the Record Industry) #61 US, #58 UK #''Elephant (album)'' (2003, V2 Records, XL Records) #6 US, #1 UK #''Get Behind Me Satan'' (2005, V2 Records, XL Records) #3 US, #3 UK ===Singles=== * "Let's Shake Hands" * "Lafayette Blues" * "The Big Three Killed My Baby" * "Hello Operator" * "Hand Springs" * "Party Of Special Things To Do" / "China Pig" / "Ashtray Heart" * "Lord, Send Me An Angel" * "Hotel Yorba" (2001) #26 UK * "Fell In Love With A Girl" (2002) #21 UK * "Dead Leaves And The Dirty Ground" (2002) #27 UK * "Seven Nation Army" (2003) #76 US, #7 UK * "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" (2003) #13 UK * "The Hardest Button To Button" (2003) #23 UK * "Jolene - Live Under Blackpool Lights" (2004) #16 UK * "Blue Orchid" (2005) #43 US, #9 UK, #1 CAN * "My Doorbell" (2005) * "Little Ghost" (released for Americana radio (2005) * "Red Rain" (2005) ===DVDs=== * ''Under Blackpool Lights (November 2004) == External links == * [http://www.whitestripes.com/ Official site] * [http://www.whitestripes.net/ Fansite and Message Board] * [http://www.whitestripes.net/faq.php Unofficial FAQ - exhaustive] * [http://www.tripletremelo.com/ Triple Tremelo] * [http://www.brokenbricks.com/ White Stripes tablature] * [http://all.at/expecting/ Lyrics and setlists] * [http://www.redcandycane.net/ Redcandycane French fansite] * simple:The White Stripes American musical groups Rock music groups
I've removed this: ''The main riff of the song ''Seven nations army'' which features on the ''Elephant (album)'' album has become the most popular riff for youngsters trying out their first guitar in guitar shops, thereby dethroning ''Smoke on the water'' by Deep Purple.'' It might be true (wouldn't surprise me), but it sounds rather speculative - if there's a news story or something that we can quote as claiming this, then lets do that, but if it's just a guess or based on personal experience or something, I don't think it should be in the article (oh, and it's "nation" not "nations", btw). --User:Camembert Fair enough. This was my first contribution here. If I had taken the trouble to see that Talk pages exist, I'd probably have posted it here. My source is www.guitarnoise.com which is a respectable music website, but then again the source wasn't firm enough to remove all speculation. Anyway, I think some statement of this kind may be relevant - when doublechecked in the near future. No one knows how the popularity of the White Stripes will evolve, but "Smoke on the water" has been every teenager's first riff and it is changing. I think White Stripes are writing history and I wanted to give account of it by posting the anecdote. Cheers, JVDP. ---- The text says: ''their self-titled debut album in 1997'', however, the discography sections outlines: ''The White Stripes (1999, Sympathy for the Record Industry)''. Two different dates, I'm not sure which is correct (or if either one is correct), but I am just pointing this inconsistancy out. User:Aggelophoros 05:24, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC) :''The White Stripes'' was released in 1999. Fixed. --User:BloodyLoony 23:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC) ---- Concerning the relations between the two, has it been confirmed that Mag is actually his ex-wife? Because the latest news I hear is that they are in fact brother and sister! --User:BloodyLoony 23:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC) :Yes, they are a divorced couple. -- unsigned :hello, last I checked (according to the Unofficial FAQ, which I must link up sometime), their status is deliberately ambiguous, because, in Jack's opinion, it isn't relevant to the music -- I'll check sources and revise -- User:Kwill 11:35, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC) There's absolutely no doubt they were married. Entertainment Weekly printed their divorce papers. User:Gamaliel 17:50, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC) Arg... The White Stripes website says that Jack White has just married Karen Elson. Moreover, it says that's the first marriage for both of them. So the marriage explanation may be false, too. I think the mere fact that we are discussing this should be acknowledged in the article. Something along the lines of "it is widely believed that they were married, but this has been disputed by some" There should at least be consistency in the article. In the beginning, it says that they were married, in the end it says there were rumours of them being married. I agree that Jack and Meg were married in the 90s, it's commonly known. Jack (John Gillis) even took Meg White's last name. --User:Unclevortex 13:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) =="blunk"== I don't know what "media" coined or used this silly term, but that doesn't mean we have to pick it up. If you can cite this term coming into use in more than one place, or in more than an edge context, go ahead and mention that the term has been used to describe their music, and by whom, but perferably not in the lead paragraph and preferably not in such a way as to legitimized the word. User:Jgm 21:49, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC) All of the major papers used the term when they first became known and were hailed as the saviours of rock. Rock is a very broad category of msuic so it needs narrowing down. They certainly do not fit into rock & roll and they are a mixture of punk and blues. IIRC the band themselves have even endorsed the word in a interview with NME. --User:Josquius 16:10, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Hi, sorry, I'm not quite buying it. A google search yields a few instances of the term used in conjunction with the band, but nearly every one claims that it is "so called blunk" or that "(someone else) clumsily dubbed it blunk". Neither Rolling Stone nor Spin, the prominent US music magazines, which have each done many reviews and several feature articles on the band, have ever used the term. Again, I don't mind if the term is mentioned in the article, but the term does not have enough common usage or acceptance to go in the lead as the primary description of the band's music. User:Jgm 19:40, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC) == NPOV == Is it just me, or is this article extremely lacking on the NPOV front? "incredibly bad" is everywhere in this article! Am I missing something here? If not, I'll give NPOVing it a go. -- User:Brother Dysk 15:30, May 5, 2005 (UTC) :Right, vandalism, hadn't spotted that happening. -- User:Brother Dysk 02:51, May 6, 2005 (UTC) I've protected the page due to our persistent daily vandal. Soon he'll find something else to play with and I'll unprotect it. User:Gamaliel 16:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC) I've unprotected the page. User:Gamaliel 17:04, 9 May 2005 (UTC) == Just pointing out == The White Stripes are a minimalist, not very good, rock and roll duo from Detroit. Might want to take "not very good out" if we're being impartial here. :You must be looking at an old version. That phrase has already been removed. User:Gamaliel 20:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC) == Suggestions == Two great links that ought to be in this article: The Unofficial FAQ: http://www.whitestripes.net/faq.php Lyrics and setlists of almost every show: http://all.at/expecting I took the liberty to add them --User:Unclevortex 14:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC) == Unofficial bass-added tracks == Does anyone have any info as to who these "several musicians" who "have produced unofficial bass-added tracks" might be? Specifically, is anyone suggesting that one of these might have been Kyle Gass, whose band Tenacious D briefly combined with White Stripes in 2002? User:TOttenville8 13:18, 23 June 2005 (UTC)
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The White Stripes are a minimalist rock and roll duo from Detroit, formed in 1997 in music, composed of Jack White (musician) and Meg White, who rose to prominence with their albums ''White Blood Cells (album)'' and the retro ''Elephant (album)''. == Career == Billing themselves as brother and sister, guitarist and singer Jack White (musician) and drummer Meg White released their self-titled debut album in 1999 in music. (In reality, they are ex-husband-and-wife and Meg is seven months older than Jack; their divorce papers were revealed on the website The Smoking Gun.) They were a struggling local musical band in Detroit for a long time, even after touring with Pavement (band) and Sleater-Kinney. The second release from the White Stripes, ''De Stijl'' (2000), was named after the De Stijl, which they cited as a source for the approach to their music and image. The ''De Stijl (album)'' album cover pictures a sample art piece from this movement, made in 3 colors - red, white, and black - characteristic of the duo's uniforms. The number 3 also has significance for this band, not only for their tri-colored uniforms but their 3 instruments: vocals, guitar and drums, although Jack occasionally plays organ and piano. Their stripped-down, garage rock sound made them a much hyped-band in 2002 in music, as a result of the critical raves given to the major label release of ''White Blood Cells (album)'' in 2001. The White Stripes enjoyed their first significant success in the United Kingdom in 2001, with the critical acclaim, especially for the band's energetic stage performances, spreading to the US in the following months. They have no bass guitar, and several musicians have produced unofficial bass-added tracks. In 2002, Q_(magazine) named The White Stripes as one of the "50 Bands To See Before You Die". The Lego-themed video, produced by Michael Gondry for the single "Fell in Love With a Girl" (off White Blood Cells), brought them attention outside music circles. Their follow-up to ''White Blood Cells'', entitled ''Elephant (album)'', was released on April 1, 2003 in music, again to widespread critical acclaim. ''Elephant'' became The White Stripes' first UK chart-topper and US Top 10 album. On February 8, 2004 the song "Seven Nation Army" won a Grammy for best Rock Song, and the album ''Elephant'' won for best Alternative Album. In 2003, Jack and Meg White appeared in Jim Jarmusch's film, ''Coffee and Cigarettes'' in a segment entitled "Jack Shows Meg His Tesla Coil." Released in 2004, the ''Under Blackpool Lights'' DVD has a special treat for fans who collect their bootlegs; it contains every major live cover that the band played during the 2003-2004 tours, approximately a dozen songs. Jack White alerted fans to secrets within the film on his site postings, one of which was sure to be the writing on his arm. Recorded over two nights shows, this writing says ''NOXIOUS'' which changes to ''OBNOXIOUS'' at certain point when film from a different night is used. A fifth album, ''Get Behind Me Satan'', was released in North America on June 7, 2005 and has already garnered critical acclaim. Its first single, titled "Blue Orchid", is currently a popular song on satellite radio and occasionally FM stations.[http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2005/apr05/20050403_whitestripes.html] On June 1, 2005 Jack White and model Karen Elson were married during the band's tour of South America. The band's manager Ian Montone was the best man and Meg White was the Maid of Honor. Jack White's new spouse also appears in the video for Blue Orchid. The [http://www.whitestripes.com White Stripes website] claimed "this was the first marriage for both newlyweds", despite documentation showing that Jack and Meg were once married. ==Discography== ===Albums=== #''The White Stripes (album)'' (1999, Sympathy for the Record Industry) #''De Stijl (album)'' (2000, Sympathy for the Record Industry) #''White Blood Cells (album)'' (2001, Sympathy for the Record Industry) #61 US, #58 UK #''Elephant (album)'' (2003, V2 Records, XL Records) #6 US, #1 UK #''Get Behind Me Satan'' (2005, V2 Records, XL Records) #3 US, #3 UK ===Singles=== * "Let's Shake Hands" * "Lafayette Blues" * "The Big Three Killed My Baby" * "Hello Operator" * "Hand Springs" * "Party Of Special Things To Do" / "China Pig" / "Ashtray Heart" * "Lord, Send Me An Angel" * "Hotel Yorba" (2001) #26 UK * "Fell In Love With A Girl" (2002) #21 UK * "Dead Leaves And The Dirty Ground" (2002) #27 UK * "Seven Nation Army" (2003) #76 US, #7 UK * "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" (2003) #13 UK * "The Hardest Button To Button" (2003) #23 UK * "Jolene - Live Under Blackpool Lights" (2004) #16 UK * "Blue Orchid" (2005) #43 US, #9 UK, #1 CAN * "My Doorbell" (2005) * "Little Ghost" (released for Americana radio (2005) * "Red Rain" (2005) ===DVDs=== * ''Under Blackpool Lights (November 2004) == External links == * [http://www.whitestripes.com/ Official site] * [http://www.whitestripes.net/ Fansite and Message Board] * [http://www.whitestripes.net/faq.php Unofficial FAQ - exhaustive] * [http://www.tripletremelo.com/ Triple Tremelo] * [http://www.brokenbricks.com/ White Stripes tablature] * [http://all.at/expecting/ Lyrics and setlists] * [http://www.redcandycane.net/ Redcandycane French fansite] * simple:The White Stripes American musical groups Rock music groups
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I've removed this: ''The main riff of the song ''Seven nations army'' which features on the ''Elephant (album)'' album has become the most popular riff for youngsters trying out their first guitar in guitar shops, thereby dethroning ''Smoke on the water'' by Deep Purple.'' It might be true (wouldn't surprise me), but it sounds rather speculative - if there's a news story or something that we can quote as claiming this, then lets do that, but if it's just a guess or based on personal experience or something, I don't think it should be in the article (oh, and it's "nation" not "nations", btw). --User:Camembert Fair enough. This was my first contribution here. If I had taken the trouble to see that Talk pages exist, I'd probably have posted it here. My source is www.guitarnoise.com which is a respectable music website, but then again the source wasn't firm enough to remove all speculation. Anyway, I think some statement of this kind may be relevant - when doublechecked in the near future. No one knows how the popularity of the White Stripes will evolve, but "Smoke on the water" has been every teenager's first riff and it is changing. I think White Stripes are writing history and I wanted to give account of it by posting the anecdote. Cheers, JVDP. ---- The text says: ''their self-titled debut album in 1997'', however, the discography sections outlines: ''The White Stripes (1999, Sympathy for the Record Industry)''. Two different dates, I'm not sure which is correct (or if either one is correct), but I am just pointing this inconsistancy out. User:Aggelophoros 05:24, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC) :''The White Stripes'' was released in 1999. Fixed. --User:BloodyLoony 23:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC) ---- Concerning the relations between the two, has it been confirmed that Mag is actually his ex-wife? Because the latest news I hear is that they are in fact brother and sister! --User:BloodyLoony 23:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC) :Yes, they are a divorced couple. -- unsigned :hello, last I checked (according to the Unofficial FAQ, which I must link up sometime), their status is deliberately ambiguous, because, in Jack's opinion, it isn't relevant to the music -- I'll check sources and revise -- User:Kwill 11:35, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC) There's absolutely no doubt they were married. Entertainment Weekly printed their divorce papers. User:Gamaliel 17:50, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC) Arg... The White Stripes website says that Jack White has just married Karen Elson. Moreover, it says that's the first marriage for both of them. So the marriage explanation may be false, too. I think the mere fact that we are discussing this should be acknowledged in the article. Something along the lines of "it is widely believed that they were married, but this has been disputed by some" There should at least be consistency in the article. In the beginning, it says that they were married, in the end it says there were rumours of them being married. I agree that Jack and Meg were married in the 90s, it's commonly known. Jack (John Gillis) even took Meg White's last name. --User:Unclevortex 13:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) =="blunk"== I don't know what "media" coined or used this silly term, but that doesn't mean we have to pick it up. If you can cite this term coming into use in more than one place, or in more than an edge context, go ahead and mention that the term has been used to describe their music, and by whom, but perferably not in the lead paragraph and preferably not in such a way as to legitimized the word. User:Jgm 21:49, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC) All of the major papers used the term when they first became known and were hailed as the saviours of rock. Rock is a very broad category of msuic so it needs narrowing down. They certainly do not fit into rock & roll and they are a mixture of punk and blues. IIRC the band themselves have even endorsed the word in a interview with NME. --User:Josquius 16:10, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Hi, sorry, I'm not quite buying it. A google search yields a few instances of the term used in conjunction with the band, but nearly every one claims that it is "so called blunk" or that "(someone else) clumsily dubbed it blunk". Neither Rolling Stone nor Spin, the prominent US music magazines, which have each done many reviews and several feature articles on the band, have ever used the term. Again, I don't mind if the term is mentioned in the article, but the term does not have enough common usage or acceptance to go in the lead as the primary description of the band's music. User:Jgm 19:40, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC) == NPOV == Is it just me, or is this article extremely lacking on the NPOV front? "incredibly bad" is everywhere in this article! Am I missing something here? If not, I'll give NPOVing it a go. -- User:Brother Dysk 15:30, May 5, 2005 (UTC) :Right, vandalism, hadn't spotted that happening. -- User:Brother Dysk 02:51, May 6, 2005 (UTC) I've protected the page due to our persistent daily vandal. Soon he'll find something else to play with and I'll unprotect it. User:Gamaliel 16:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC) I've unprotected the page. User:Gamaliel 17:04, 9 May 2005 (UTC) == Just pointing out == The White Stripes are a minimalist, not very good, rock and roll duo from Detroit. Might want to take "not very good out" if we're being impartial here. :You must be looking at an old version. That phrase has already been removed. User:Gamaliel 20:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC) == Suggestions == Two great links that ought to be in this article: The Unofficial FAQ: http://www.whitestripes.net/faq.php Lyrics and setlists of almost every show: http://all.at/expecting I took the liberty to add them --User:Unclevortex 14:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC) == Unofficial bass-added tracks == Does anyone have any info as to who these "several musicians" who "have produced unofficial bass-added tracks" might be? Specifically, is anyone suggesting that one of these might have been Kyle Gass, whose band Tenacious D briefly combined with White Stripes in 2002? User:TOttenville8 13:18, 23 June 2005 (UTC)
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