
:''For other meanings, see Sydney (disambiguation), or Sidney.'' [[Image:Sydney_Snapshot.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Port Jackson looking south from the vicinity of the Sydney Harbour Bridge towards the CBD skyline; the Sydney Opera House is visible in the background on the left.]] Sydney is the capital city of the Australian state of New South Wales and Australia's largest and oldest city (founded in 1788). It is the largest city in the southern hemisphere, in terms of area. With a metropolitan area population of 4.7 million and a population of approximately 170,000 people in the city proper (known as the "city of Sydney"), the Sydney metropolis is the larger of the two main financial, transport, trade and cultural centres of Australia (the other being Melbourne, Sydney's long term rival to the title of pre-eminent Australian city). Sydney is a significant global and domestic tourist destination and is regularly declared to be one of the most beautiful and livable cities in the world, admired for its harbour, beautiful coastline, warm and pleasant climate and cosmopolitan culture. Sydney significantly raised its global profile in recent years as the host city of the 2000 Summer Olympics. The city's name is pronounced "SID-nee", International Phonetic Alphabet: . A resident of Sydney is popularly known as a "Sydneysider". ==Geography== Sydney is located in a coastal basin between the Pacific Ocean to the east and the Blue Mountains to the west. Sydney features the largest natural harbour in the world, Port Jackson, and also enjoys more than 70 beaches, including the famous Bondi Beach. Sydney's urban area of 1,687 sq km is similar in size to Greater London, but has half that city's population. The metropolitan area (Sydney Statistical Division) has 12,145 sq km, but much of this area is national park and other wilderness. Sydney can be divided into two geographical regions: the Cumberland Plain, a relatively flat or rolling region lying south and west of the harbour, and the Hornsby Plateau, an elevated (up to 200 m) plateau north of the harbour that is dissected by steep, forested valleys. The Cumberland Plain developed first, and the oldest parts of the city are located in the flat areas. The Hornsby Plateau, known as the North Shore (Sydney), was slower to develop because of its rough topography, and was mostly a quiet backwater until the Sydney Harbour Bridge was built, linking it to the city south of the harbour. Thereafter the North Shore has become widely upper-middle class suburban in character, although it has developed its own high-rise business districts at Chatswood and North Sydney. The central business district (CBD) extends southwards for about 2 km from the point of first European settlement, Sydney Cove. The CBD is an area of very densely concentrated skyscrapers and other buildings, interspersed by several parks such as Wynyard Park and Hyde Park, Sydney. The CBD is bounded on the east side by a chain of parkland that extends from Hyde Park through The Domain, Sydney and Royal Botanic Gardens, Sydney to Farm Cove on Sydney Harbour. The west side is bounded by Darling Harbour, a popular tourist precinct. Central railway station, Sydney marks the southern end of the CBD. George St is the Sydney CBD's main north-south thoroughfare. The streets run on a slightly warped grid pattern in the southern CBD, but in the older northern CBD the streets are less logical, reflecting their random placement in the early days of the city. (See the City of Sydney article for more detail.) Although the CBD dominated the city's business and cultural life in the early days, significant other business/cultural districts have developed since World War II, in a radial pattern. As a result of business development in other districts, the proportion of white-collar jobs located in the CBD declined from more than 60% at the end of World War II to less than 30% in 2004. The four most significant other business districts are Parramatta in the central-west, Liverpool, New South Wales to the southwest, Chatswood to the north and Hurstville to the south. Although Sydney does not suffer from cyclones, and the earthquake risk is considered very low, many areas of Sydney bordering bushland have experienced forest fire, including ones in 1994 and 2002. The city is also subject to infrequent severe hail storms and wind storms (maybe once every 5 to 10 years, although these appear to be increasing). In recent years, the city has also faced water shortages. Warragamba Dam levels are falling to the extent that the state government has imposed a range of prohibitions intended to reduce consumption. The El Niño plays an important role in determining weather patterns, with drought and bushfire on the one hand, and storms and flooding on the other being associated with the two opposite phases of the oscillation. == History == ''Main article:'' History of Sydney The area surrounding Sydney Harbour (called Warrane by the aborigines) has been inhabited by Australian Aborigine tribes, notably the Eora and Cadigal, for at least 40,000 years. Although urbanization has destroyed most evidence of these settlements (such as shell middens), there are still rock carvings in several locations. Europe interest arose with the sighting of Botany Bay (now a southern suburb of Sydney) in 1770 by Captain James Cook. Under instruction from the United Kingdom government, a convict settlement was founded by Arthur Phillip in 1788. Most convicts came from Ireland and England. A great number were in fact not real criminals but were simply sent to the new colony as a harsh punishment by the ruling aristocracy. (See the First Fleet article for more information.) Phillip first landed at Botany Bay, but found it unsatisfactorily shallow for a permanent settlement. After a brief sail north, Phillip founded the colony at Sydney Cove on Port Jackson (the correct name for Sydney Harbour). Phillip originally named the colony "New Albion", but for some uncertain reason the colony acquired the name "Sydney", after the (then) British Home Secretary, Thomas Townshend, 1st Viscount Sydney (Viscount Sydney from 1789). This is possibly due to the fact that Lord Sydney issued the charter authorising Phillip to establish a colony. Prisoners were quickly set to work to build the settlement and by 1822 the town had banks, markets, well-established thoroughfares and an organised constabulary; by 1847, convicts accounted for only 3.2 per cent of the population. Each day, ships would arrive from Ireland and England with immigrants looking to start a new life in a new country. The first of several gold rush was in 1851, since which time the port of Sydney has seen many waves of people from around the world. With industrialization Sydney expanded rapidly, and by the early 20th century it had a population well in excess of one million. Throughout the 20th century Sydney continued to expand with various new waves of Europe and (later) Asia immigration, resulting in its highly cosmopolitan atmosphere of the present day. === Historical population === A majority of Sydneysiders are of British and Irish background. More recent arrivals have included Italians, Greeks, Lebanese and Asians. *1800: 2,540 inhabitants *1820: 12,000 *1851: 39,000 *1871: 205,800 *1901: 487,900 *1925: 1,039,000 *2003: 4 million *2050: 6 million (projected) === Timeline of events === *1788: First European settlement established. *1852: Sydney incorporated as a city. *1855: New South Wales's first railway line linking Sydney with Parramatta. *1870: Intercolonial Exhibition (1870) *1879: Sydney International Exhibition (1879) *1883: Parramatta - Intercolonial Juvenile Industrial Exhibition (1883) *1901: Commonwealth of Australia proclaimed in Sydney on January 1. *1932: Sydney Harbour Bridge completed. *1942: Sydney Harbour attacked by Japanese midget submarines. *1973: Sydney Opera House completed. *2000: 2000 Summer Olympics ==Government and politics== There is no overall governing body for the Sydney metropolitan area, unlike cities of similar sizes, particularly in the United States. There is a directly elected Lord Mayor of Sydney and an elected council, but these are responsible only for the City of Sydney, which takes in the central business area and some adjoining inner suburbs. The Lord Mayor, however, is sometimes treated as a representative of the whole city. The rest of the metropolitan area is divided into municipalities (see #Regions and suburbs). As is common in major metropolitan areas of most Australian states, these municipalities all have elected councils and are responsible for a range of functions delegated to them by the New South Wales state government. Most citywide government activities are controlled by the state government. These include public transport, main roads, traffic control, policing, education above preschool level, and planning of major infrastructure projects. Because a large fraction of New South Wales' population lives in Sydney, state governments have traditionally been reluctant to allow the development of citywide governmental bodies, which would tend to rival the state government. For this reason, Sydney has always been a focus for the politics of both State and Federal Parliaments. For example, the electoral boundary of the City of Sydney local council area (mayoralty) have been significantly altered by state governments on at least four occasions since 1945, with advantageous effect to the governing party in the New South Wales Parliament at the time. As of 2005, the councils of the City of Sydney and the City of South Sydney are merged. == Landmarks == The city's most famous landmarks are the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Sydney Opera House, both of which are located on Sydney Harbour. Sydney's principal river is the Parramatta River, which enters Sydney Harbour from the west. While the Harbour is famous for its racing yachts, the Boxing Day start of the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race and 18ft skiffs, the river is used for dinghy sailing and rowing as well as recreational boating, racing small yachts, recreational fishing, and occasional Dragon Boat racing. Another famous landmark is the Sydney Tower (also known as ''Centrepoint Tower'' or the ''AMP Tower'') which is the second tallest building in the Southern Hemisphere. Darling Harbour is also a popular tourist attraction. Sydney also has an interesting Sydney underground railways (see also CityRail), one of only two in the country (Melbourne has the other). The Sydney Cricket Ground, which retains several beautiful 1920s-era grandstands, hosts several international cricket matches and the Sydney Swans football team. The old adjacent showgrounds, for many years home to the Sydney Royal Easter Show, have been redeveloped as 20th Century Fox's large Sydney studios. Homebush Bay, New South Wales, after holding a large proportion of the major events in the 2000 Olympic Games, now regularly hosts sporting and cultural events, especially at Telstra Stadium. Sydney is also known for the annual Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras. Sydney is home to the Australian Stock Exchange and the Reserve Bank of Australia. It also has 6 university: the University of Sydney, the University of New South Wales, Macquarie University, the University of Technology, Sydney, the University of Western Sydney, and two of the campuses of the Australian Catholic University. === Tourist attractions === Sydney is noted for its tourist attractions, including: *Bondi Beach *Darling Harbour [http://www.darlingharbour.com/] *Chinatown, Sydney *Chinese Garden *New Year's fireworks *King Street Wharf *Oceanworld, Manly.[http://www.sydneymate.com/travel_sydney_australia/Placesofinterest/ManlyOceanWorld/Manly_Ocean_World.htm] *Powerhouse Museum, a museum of science and technology [http://www.phm.gov.au/] *Sydney Aquarium, Darling Harbour. [http://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/] *Sydney Harbour, more correctly known as Port Jackson *Sydney Tower (aka ''Centrepoint Tower''), CBD.[http://www.sydneyskytour.com.au/] *Taronga Zoo, Mosman, New South Wales.[http://www.zoo.nsw.gov.au/] *The Rocks ==Culture== ''Main article:'' Culture of Sydney Sydney boasts a full roster of musical, theatrical and artistic activity throughout the year, from the formal - including the Sydney Symphony Orchestra, the Sydney Theatre Company, the Sydney Dance Company, and the Archibald Prize - to festivals, including the Sydney Festival, a celebration of free performances throughout January. Many internationally known Australian rock bands have had their conception in Sydney, from Midnight Oil to INXS. Sydney also has been home to many visual artists, from the lush pastoralism of Lloyd Rees's depictions of Sydney Harbour to Jeffrey Smart's portraits of bleak urban alienation. Sydney has four large and many smaller museums. The biggest are the Australian Museum (natural history and anthropology), Powerhouse Museum (science, technology and design), Art Gallery of New South Wales and the Museum of Contemporary Art, Sydney. Sydney is also home to several large ethnic communities throughout the greater metropolitan area, and a significant gay community who host the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras along Oxford Street, Sydney. To encourage sharing of cultural, trade and tourist links, the City of Sydney Council maintains sister city relations with the cities San Francisco, Nagoya, Wellington, Portsmouth, Guangzhou, and Florence. ==Sport== * 9 teams in the National Rugby League * Sydney Swans - Australian Football League * 2 teams in the National Basketball League (Australia) * Sydney FC - A-League (Australia) * New South Wales Blues - First-class cricket * Home of the New South Wales Waratahs - Super 12 Rugby Team Sydney is arguably the major Rugby League centre of the world. It is the headquarters of Australian Rugby League and home to 9 of the 15 National Rugby League teams. Sydney was host to the 2000 Summer Olympics. ==Transport== [[Image:Sydney-Monorail.jpg|right|thumb|Monorail above King Street, Sydney]] Sydney is served by extensive train, bus and ferry networks. Sydney trains are run by CityRail, a corporation of the New South Wales State Government. Trains run as suburban commuter rail services in the outer suburbs, then converge in a frequent metro-like service in tunnels under the central business district (CBD). Buses serve the whole metropolitan area. In the city and inner suburb the state-owned Sydney Buses has a monopoly. Services are frequent, even outside peak hours. In the outer suburbs, service is divided up between many private bus companies. These bus services are often criticised for their relative scarcity of service and sometimes complete lack of off-peak service. Sydney Ferries, another state government-owned organisation, runs extensive commuter and tourist ferry services on Sydney Harbour and the Parramatta River. Sydney has one light rail line, the Metro Light Rail, running from Central railway station, Sydney to Lilyfield. There is also a monorail which runs in a loop around the main shopping district and Darling Harbour. Sydney is serviced by an extensive network of freeways and tollways (known as motorways) and roads. The most important trunk routes in the metropolitan area form the Metroad system. Kingsford Smith International Airport, located in the suburb of Mascot, New South Wales, is Sydney's main airport. The smaller Bankstown Airport mainly serves private and general aviation. There are light aviation airfields at Hoxton Park and Camden, New South Wales. RAAF Base Richmond lies to the north-west of the city. ==Regions and suburbs== === Regions of Sydney === The extensive area covered by metropolitan Sydney is formally divided into more than 300 suburbs (for addressing and postal purposes), and formally administered by about 38 separate local government areas (in addition to the extensive responsibilities of the New South Wales State government and its agencies). In addition, there are a number of regional descriptions which are used informally to conveniently describe large sections of the metropolitan area. However it should be noted that there are many suburbs which are not conveniently described by any of the following informal regional categories. *Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) *Hills District (Sydney) *Inner West (Sydney) *Northern Beaches (Sydney) *North Shore (Sydney) *Southern Sydney *South-western Sydney *Sutherland Shire *Western Sydney === Sydney suburbs and satellite cities === Metropolitan Sydney cover about 2000 square kilometers, has 4.5 million inhabitants and about 300 suburb. There are about 38 local government areas in the Sydney region, each containing several suburbs. See Local Government Areas of New South Wales. The City of Sydney covers a fairly small area comprising downtown Sydney and neighbouring inner-city neighbourhoods. ====Local government areas==== the City of Sydney, as well as: {| |- valign="top" | *Ashfield, New South Wales *Auburn, New South Wales *Bankstown *Baulkham Hills Shire *Blacktown *Botany Bay *Burwood, New South Wales | *Camden, New South Wales *Campbelltown, New South Wales *Canada Bay *Canterbury, New South Wales *Fairfield, New South Wales *Holroyd *Hornsby Shire, New South Wales | *Hunter's Hill *Hurstville *Kogarah *Ku-ring-gai Council *Lane Cove *Leichhardt *Liverpool, New South Wales | *Manly *Marrickville, New South Wales *Mosman, New South Wales *North Sydney *Parramatta *Penrith, Australia *Pittwater | *Randwick, New South Wales *Rockdale, New South Wales *Ryde, New South Wales *Strathfield *Sutherland Shire *Warringah *Waverley, New South Wales | *Willoughby, New South Wales *Woollahra |} This is a partial list of Sydney suburbs and satellite cities. For a complete suburbs listing see List of Sydney suburbs. ====Selected suburbs==== ''Main articles:'' List of Sydney suburbs, :Category:Suburbs of Sydney *Cabramatta, New South Wales *Castle Hill, New South Wales *Darlinghurst *Glebe, New South Wales *Hornsby, New South Wales *Hurstville *Newtown, New South Wales *Parramatta *Redfern, New South Wales ====Sydney localities==== *Goat Island, Sydney *Kings Cross, New South Wales *Voyager Point *Rookwood Cemetery *Chinatown, Sydney ==See also== *Sydney Riot of 1879 *Crime in Sydney *List of cities in Australia *List of Australian television channels *List of Australian radio stations *Sydney Anglicans ==External links== * *[http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/trafficreports/cameras/sydneyharbourbridge.html Sydney Harbour Bridge Webcam] * [http://www.metrostrategy.nsw.gov.au Sydney Metropolitan Strategy] - A NSW State Government initiative to guide growth and change in the Sydney Metropolitan Area over the next 30 years. * [http://www.terragalleria.com/pacific/australia/sydney/ Pictures of Sydney - Terra Galleria] * [http://photosydney.blogspot.com Photos and Information on Sydney life - PhotoSydney] * [http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDN10064.txt Sydney Weather Forecast] * [http://www.todi-media.com Virtual Tour of Sydney] Information, Animations, Photos and Videos Australian capital cities Cities in New South Wales Coastal cities Port cities Host cities of the Summer Olympic Games Metropolitan areas Sydney hi:सिडनी simple:Sydney
''This article is a part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sydney.'' ==Misc== In the transport or history section it might be worth noting that Sydney was once well-served by a tram system, before that system was gradually but determinedly dismantled, to be replaced by noisy, slow, polluting, infrequent, overcrowded buses. My reasoning behind this proposed entry is not that I am a tram nutter but that I have noticed that the presence or absence of trams in a city is a major indicator of the quality of life afforded its citizens. A recommended source for Sydney history pictures (of trams, the harbourside and other landmarks) is the work of photographer Max Dupain. --MJL If the :Melbourne entry is going to mention that city's distance from Sydney . . . Oh, and you might mention the city's namesake. ---- As an inhabitant of Sydney, I honestly can't see why its subway is considered interesting - some details please, or else excise the reference -- MB : Probably just a remnant of the :Underground nomenclature wars :-) --Anders Törlind Manning: You don't find Sydney's subway system interesting? You've obviously never gone on a tour of the disused tunnels off St. James station :) -- User:SJK ::Sydney's subway is really just the urban section of the suburban rail network. The most interesting feature as far as I'm concerned is that double-decker trains run underground in the city centre. >>>>User:Lee M 01:15, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC) :::Double-decked trains are the ''only'' type of trains on the CityRail network, and such that fact really isn't that interesting :) User:Dysprosia 01:19, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC) ::::Sydney is still the only city I know that has double-decker trains running underground in the city centre. If I choose to be interested by that then it's interesting. :P User:Lee M 13:13, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC) :::::I know of another city, Paris, that has a far more extensive double-decker underground system, which is part of its RER network. This is not its underground system though, the famous metro. On the other hand, in many underground train systems, all the lines do not run underground all the time - underground trains typically run above ground on occassion. Sydney has a kind of underground in the form of the City Circle line, which is the remainder of a plan to produce a real underground system. --User:Mgekelly 02:02, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC) ---- Again, some discussion of Sin City's criminal past is worthwhile, but the article as it stands gives the misleading impression that the crime rate is extremely high in world terms, which is just not true. Not even Alan Jones can make it so.---User:Robert Merkel 07:31 Dec 5, 2002 (UTC) I agree - the crime section seems very out of place - wm :I've bitten the bullet and yanked it and whacked a great big disclaimer on top. If somebody wants to fix it, well and good, otherwise it can stay well out of the way. --User:Robert Merkel 04:13 10 Jun 2003 (UTC) :: That'sinteresting - it was part of a seprate article in the first place! ( See history of this page) User:Arno 07:35 10 Jun 2003 (UTC) ---- I just had a look at the Toronto city page and it seems to have more "stuff" and I think Toronto is good comparison city for Sydney. I might attempt to write some more stuff on Culture (isn't that with a K??) Film Festivals, Theatre (STC, Belvoir) Mardi Gras, Sydney Festival, SSO/ACO/Musica Viva etc etc any other thoughts?? User:Scotth1 08:33, 2004 Mar 17 (UTC) :feel free to expand the culture of Sydney article, it's good to add a summary of whatever you add there in the main article, but don't add all the content in the main article. the toronto article is rather long, and should probably have sections such as history, hived off into separate articles when they get very long, with prominent ''Main article'' links to them, similar to the way the country articles are laid out (see New York City as an example of how this is done). unfortunately many of the city articles aren't following the Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities template (even though it says it's for US cities, it can be used for non-US cities). User:Clarkk 09:44, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC) ==links in headings== links should not generally appear in headings of narrative articles (sometimes it's OK in "list of"-style articles) see: Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Headings, also Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries and other templates (see my comment above), as well other articles use the ''Main article:'' convention. User:Clarkk 12:39, 16 May 2004 (UTC) How can Sydeny be the largest cityin the southern hemisphere? Isn't Rio and Sao Paulo located in the southern hemisphere also? == How to list LGAs? == I added a list of local government areas...IMHO these are more important then most of the listed suburbs...only ''notable'' suburbs that aren't also LGAs should be listed, e.g. Bondi Junction, Chatswood, Cronulla. But the list is pretty long. Too long? I don't know how to format it into two columns. Maybe it's better to have a separate article, 'list of Sydney local government areas'.--User:Randwicked 10:06, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC) :There is a Local Government Areas of New South Wales. I really don't think the LGA list needs be here, maybe not even the suburbs, unless super-special. All those lists should be kept seperate. User talk:TPKUser:TPK 16:09, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC) ::A soulution may be to add the Sydney_regions template instead. Might look a little neater, and it lists all the LGAs AND 'regions'. -User:Randwicked 10:45, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC) == Chinatown of Sydney == I'm trying to develop the Australian section of the article on Chinatown, so no country will feel they're excluded from the list. Does Sydney also follow the old touristy urban Sydney Chinatown vs. the new surburban Chinatown pattern? If you have any local perspective, please add them to the article. By the way, correct anything you feel is erroneous. * So people are very quick to delete the link to the main Chinatown article (I added it because it could use some more information on Sydney's Chinatown), but yet they're not so quick in adding much-needed new information to it. Sad. ::I've added some info to the Chinatown, Sydney article, but I don't think a link to an article on generic Chinatowns is appropriate in a list of Sydney tourist attractions. The Sydney Aquarium listing doesn't need a link to Aquarium.--User:Randwicked 15:44, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC) == Rugby League == The ARL is a unique sport mainly played in Sydney. Someone wanna write something about that if they're interested? I made a start in the Sports section. Needs a lot of work though. == Largest suburban area == I find no reference for this claim outside wikipedia mirrors. Its metro area is nowhere as big as LA's or New York's, and 'suburban' is a dodgy term. I changed it to 'one of the world's largest urban areas for its population', which is definitely true as the density is low. User:Randwicked 04:19, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC) :[http://au.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761566879/Sydney_(Australia).html Encarta :Sydney] gives an area for the city and suburbs of about 12,400 sq km. [http://www.uic.edu/cuppa/cityfutures/papers/webpapers/cityfuturespapers/session3_4/3_4whicharethe.pdf This paper] discusses the population and sizes of various cities. It is mainly interested in the top twenty by population. The listed cities and their size in sq kms are: New York (17884), Moscow (14925), Chicago (12028), London (11391), Buenos Aires (10888), Los Angeles (10780), Sao Paulo (8479), Tokyo (8014), Mexico City (7346), Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto (6930), Beijing (6562), Shanghai (5177), Jakarta (5100), Seoul (5076), Delhi-New Delhi (3182), Hong Kong-Shenzhen (3051), Manila (2521), Mumbai (Bombay) (2350), Kolkata (Calcutta) (1785), Cairo (1600), Karachi (1100). If the Encarta area is correct, the Sydney article should not claim it is the biggest city by area. It can claim it is bigger than most of the cities in the list. --User:CloudSurfer 10:51, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC) ::By the way, Los Angeles is listed on several sites as 1,215 sq km so Sydney is bigger than LA - just. --User:CloudSurfer 08:36, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Sydney is not the largest (in area) city in Australia, let alone the world. See Mt Isa. It is true that Sydney is not the largest city in the world by area. This is not relevant. The claim being disputed is whether Greater Sydney has the largest suburban area in the world. I did not originate this claim and was curious about its veracity when I first came across it in this article. As it is, I found two references for it fairly quickly: [http://www.international.mq.edu.au/macquarie/sydney/about.html] and [http://www.archsoc.com/personal/]. Although one of them comes from a university website, I can excuse someone for not thinking that these are authoritative. But the assumption has hardly been pulled out of the air either. I have no inclination to want to argue the point, however. I am content that the claim has been withdrawn due to lack of evidence. --User:Susurrus 08:27, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Hmm, here's some pretty definitive evidence that the claim is wrong. [http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?s=600e704ded9380ba8e21a56a8d7dc748&threadid=44966], someone has illustrated all the world's major cities to scale. These are actual built up areas. Sydney pretty pales in comparison to even mid-range American cities, though it's quite large compared to most in Europe. I think that this claim about Sydney is just one of those things that is repeated so many times people take it as fact. I've heard that Aucklanders say the same about their city. - User:Randwicked 12:56, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Fair enough. I'm actually delighted to see bad facts getting so robustly vetted out of a Wikipedia article by peer review. I've done it myself for a few articles, but it always felt like I was nearly alone in the process. You want to feel like there's a real group out there available for checks and balances. --User:Susurrus 03:24, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) == History of Sydney Melbourne rivalry == Is there an article on this somewhere? If not there should be. The interesting thing I find about it is that the rivalry seems more prominent in Sydney than in Melbourne. People in Sydney have a dislike of Melbourne whereas people in Melbourne generally like Sydney but dislike its egocentricity, or at least that is my experience. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that Melbourne was for many years after the gold rush larger and more influential than Sydney. It was chosen as the first capital of Australia. Many federal government institutions were set up there and have gradually left for Canberra or sometimes Sydney. It had all the embassies and all of these factors were reasons for many companies setting up there. With the move of the capital to Canberra, Sydney was then much closer and this has been a factor in Sydney's rise, not to mention the weather and the harbour views. Interestingly, most people in Sydney are unaware that Melbourne was ever the capital of Australia. I suspect they have forgotten why they don't like Melbourne. I am sure there must be heaps of documentation from the time of Federation and both before and after. I am not a historian but surely this is an interesting topic for someone. --User:CloudSurfer 23:25, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) :I have thought about an article before, but couldn't find any real information online, though I didn't search all too hard, and there's bound to be something offline too. As a Melburnian, I can say that the rivalry still exists here, and we do from time to time get 'Opera House envy' if you can call it that - things like trying to develop a landmark building in the Docklands, but not knowing exactly what it should be. I've always laughed at this rivalry though; where else has the government said "If you can't play fair with it, neither of you get it!" Frankly, it would have been better here :P User talk:TPKUser:TPK 06:54, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) ::I have found some interesting stats that I have put on the Talk:Melbourne page. In 1901 Melbourne was just larger than Sydney with NSW having a larger population by some degree but in 1881 the population of Vic was much larger than NSW. Federation didn't just happen in 1901 there was a long lead time. Another reason for Canberra was to be inland for strategic reasons. That way an army would have more problem attacking the capital. Mind you it didn't stop the British when they trashed Washington DC in the War of 1812. --User:CloudSurfer 08:28, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) :::yes it did - they needed to sail up the Ptomac. Canberra is up in the mountains - it's impregnable. The point should be that taking Canberra or not would have little or no strategic significance, since it's only Canberra.--User:Mgekelly 08:27, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Cloudsurfer, I've found the opposite...people in Membourne have a HUUUGE chip on their shoulders about their second-class status and are always going out of their way to prove they're as good or better than us. Whereas Sydney people are too busy toning our perfect abs and talking property prices to care about Melbourne either way. :p - User:Randwicked 14:40, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) ::I'm a resident of neither city, but I did see a quote once from a Sydneysider: "Melbourne think they are winning a race that we didn't even know we were in" User:*Paul* 08:19, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Alternative satellite photo== FYI, there's another NASA satellite photo of Sydney [http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03498 here] - much higher res (maybe too high?). Can be used under the ''PD-USGov-NASA'' image tag. - User:Nickj 03:34, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC) == Regions == I really disagree with the list of regions of sydney, though I like the concept. Rather than ''Western Sydney'', we should be talking about the ''Outer West'' and the ''South West''. I also feel that the ''Sutherland Shire'' is a distinct (socio)geographical entity to Southern Sydney. Thought I'd sound people out before makign alterations.--User:Mgekelly 08:37, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) : I agree. Southern Sydney's really two distinct regions, The Shire and St George. Ditto the others can be broken up into sub regions. If you know what the current breakdown is, go ahead and change it. - User:Randwicked 15:03, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) ::sounds fine with me. User:Clarkk 09:52, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC) If I had to divide the city up into relatively cohesive and comparable regions I'd do it so: *Inner City *Eastern Suburbs *Inner West *Lower North Shore *Upper North Shore (Hornsby-Ku-ring-gai) *Northern Beaches *Ryde *Hills District *St. George *the Shire (Sutherland) *Inner South West (Canterbury-Bankstown area) *West (Parramatta-Auburn area) *Outer South West(Liverpool area) *Outer West (Blacktown-Penrith area) *Macarthur (Campbelltown-Camden area) Now I don't know if some other areas have regional names like St. George and Macarthur. Some sub-regions of these regions have names, like Wentworth is a part of the Eastern Suburbs. But is there a local name for the Inner South West? Non-pejorative I mean? - User:Randwicked 15:08, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC) : I think you might be going a bit far with this, but then from my City Centre perspective, it's difficult to say. I've separated off the Shire and the South-West. My feeling is that the latter can be used to cover everything from Liverpool/Cabramatta to Campbelltown. Canterbury-Bannkstown is a bit tough though. BTW, I've heard Hills District residents (unsurprisingly if you think about it) describe the Hills as the Upper North Shore.--User:Mgekelly 06:26, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) :: Well as a former North Shore resident I can tell you that the Hills would NEVER be accepted as part of the Upper North. :) -User:Randwicked 10:20, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) Hey, I have no idea how to change the inset that appears on all the Sydney pages listing the regions, suburbs etc. to match what I've done on this page. Would really appreciate knowing how.--User:Mgekelly 06:34, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) :you edit the template: template:Sydney regions. every
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:''For other meanings, see Sydney (disambiguation), or Sidney.'' [[Image:Sydney_Snapshot.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Port Jackson looking south from the vicinity of the Sydney Harbour Bridge towards the CBD skyline; the Sydney Opera House is visible in the background on the left.]] Sydney is the capital city of the Australian state of New South Wales and Australia's largest and oldest city (founded in 1788). It is the largest city in the southern hemisphere, in terms of area. With a metropolitan area population of 4.7 million and a population of approximately 170,000 people in the city proper (known as the "city of Sydney"), the Sydney metropolis is the larger of the two main financial, transport, trade and cultural centres of Australia (the other being Melbourne, Sydney's long term rival to the title of pre-eminent Australian city). Sydney is a significant global and domestic tourist destination and is regularly declared to be one of the most beautiful and livable cities in the world, admired for its harbour, beautiful coastline, warm and pleasant climate and cosmopolitan culture. Sydney significantly raised its global profile in recent years as the host city of the 2000 Summer Olympics. The city's name is pronounced "SID-nee", International Phonetic Alphabet: . A resident of Sydney is popularly known as a "Sydneysider". ==Geography== Sydney is located in a coastal basin between the Pacific Ocean to the east and the Blue Mountains to the west. Sydney features the largest natural harbour in the world, Port Jackson, and also enjoys more than 70 beaches, including the famous Bondi Beach. Sydney's urban area of 1,687 sq km is similar in size to Greater London, but has half that city's population. The metropolitan area (Sydney Statistical Division) has 12,145 sq km, but much of this area is national park and other wilderness. Sydney can be divided into two geographical regions: the Cumberland Plain, a relatively flat or rolling region lying south and west of the harbour, and the Hornsby Plateau, an elevated (up to 200 m) plateau north of the harbour that is dissected by steep, forested valleys. The Cumberland Plain developed first, and the oldest parts of the city are located in the flat areas. The Hornsby Plateau, known as the North Shore (Sydney), was slower to develop because of its rough topography, and was mostly a quiet backwater until the Sydney Harbour Bridge was built, linking it to the city south of the harbour. Thereafter the North Shore has become widely upper-middle class suburban in character, although it has developed its own high-rise business districts at Chatswood and North Sydney. The central business district (CBD) extends southwards for about 2 km from the point of first European settlement, Sydney Cove. The CBD is an area of very densely concentrated skyscrapers and other buildings, interspersed by several parks such as Wynyard Park and Hyde Park, Sydney. The CBD is bounded on the east side by a chain of parkland that extends from Hyde Park through The Domain, Sydney and Royal Botanic Gardens, Sydney to Farm Cove on Sydney Harbour. The west side is bounded by Darling Harbour, a popular tourist precinct. Central railway station, Sydney marks the southern end of the CBD. George St is the Sydney CBD's main north-south thoroughfare. The streets run on a slightly warped grid pattern in the southern CBD, but in the older northern CBD the streets are less logical, reflecting their random placement in the early days of the city. (See the City of Sydney article for more detail.) Although the CBD dominated the city's business and cultural life in the early days, significant other business/cultural districts have developed since World War II, in a radial pattern. As a result of business development in other districts, the proportion of white-collar jobs located in the CBD declined from more than 60% at the end of World War II to less than 30% in 2004. The four most significant other business districts are Parramatta in the central-west, Liverpool, New South Wales to the southwest, Chatswood to the north and Hurstville to the south. Although Sydney does not suffer from cyclones, and the earthquake risk is considered very low, many areas of Sydney bordering bushland have experienced forest fire, including ones in 1994 and 2002. The city is also subject to infrequent severe hail storms and wind storms (maybe once every 5 to 10 years, although these appear to be increasing). In recent years, the city has also faced water shortages. Warragamba Dam levels are falling to the extent that the state government has imposed a range of prohibitions intended to reduce consumption. The El Niño plays an important role in determining weather patterns, with drought and bushfire on the one hand, and storms and flooding on the other being associated with the two opposite phases of the oscillation. == History == ''Main article:'' History of Sydney The area surrounding Sydney Harbour (called Warrane by the aborigines) has been inhabited by Australian Aborigine tribes, notably the Eora and Cadigal, for at least 40,000 years. Although urbanization has destroyed most evidence of these settlements (such as shell middens), there are still rock carvings in several locations. Europe interest arose with the sighting of Botany Bay (now a southern suburb of Sydney) in 1770 by Captain James Cook. Under instruction from the United Kingdom government, a convict settlement was founded by Arthur Phillip in 1788. Most convicts came from Ireland and England. A great number were in fact not real criminals but were simply sent to the new colony as a harsh punishment by the ruling aristocracy. (See the First Fleet article for more information.) Phillip first landed at Botany Bay, but found it unsatisfactorily shallow for a permanent settlement. After a brief sail north, Phillip founded the colony at Sydney Cove on Port Jackson (the correct name for Sydney Harbour). Phillip originally named the colony "New Albion", but for some uncertain reason the colony acquired the name "Sydney", after the (then) British Home Secretary, Thomas Townshend, 1st Viscount Sydney (Viscount Sydney from 1789). This is possibly due to the fact that Lord Sydney issued the charter authorising Phillip to establish a colony. Prisoners were quickly set to work to build the settlement and by 1822 the town had banks, markets, well-established thoroughfares and an organised constabulary; by 1847, convicts accounted for only 3.2 per cent of the population. Each day, ships would arrive from Ireland and England with immigrants looking to start a new life in a new country. The first of several gold rush was in 1851, since which time the port of Sydney has seen many waves of people from around the world. With industrialization Sydney expanded rapidly, and by the early 20th century it had a population well in excess of one million. Throughout the 20th century Sydney continued to expand with various new waves of Europe and (later) Asia immigration, resulting in its highly cosmopolitan atmosphere of the present day. === Historical population === A majority of Sydneysiders are of British and Irish background. More recent arrivals have included Italians, Greeks, Lebanese and Asians. *1800: 2,540 inhabitants *1820: 12,000 *1851: 39,000 *1871: 205,800 *1901: 487,900 *1925: 1,039,000 *2003: 4 million *2050: 6 million (projected) === Timeline of events === *1788: First European settlement established. *1852: Sydney incorporated as a city. *1855: New South Wales's first railway line linking Sydney with Parramatta. *1870: Intercolonial Exhibition (1870) *1879: Sydney International Exhibition (1879) *1883: Parramatta - Intercolonial Juvenile Industrial Exhibition (1883) *1901: Commonwealth of Australia proclaimed in Sydney on January 1. *1932: Sydney Harbour Bridge completed. *1942: Sydney Harbour attacked by Japanese midget submarines. *1973: Sydney Opera House completed. *2000: 2000 Summer Olympics ==Government and politics== There is no overall governing body for the Sydney metropolitan area, unlike cities of similar sizes, particularly in the United States. There is a directly elected Lord Mayor of Sydney and an elected council, but these are responsible only for the City of Sydney, which takes in the central business area and some adjoining inner suburbs. The Lord Mayor, however, is sometimes treated as a representative of the whole city. The rest of the metropolitan area is divided into municipalities (see #Regions and suburbs). As is common in major metropolitan areas of most Australian states, these municipalities all have elected councils and are responsible for a range of functions delegated to them by the New South Wales state government. Most citywide government activities are controlled by the state government. These include public transport, main roads, traffic control, policing, education above preschool level, and planning of major infrastructure projects. Because a large fraction of New South Wales' population lives in Sydney, state governments have traditionally been reluctant to allow the development of citywide governmental bodies, which would tend to rival the state government. For this reason, Sydney has always been a focus for the politics of both State and Federal Parliaments. For example, the electoral boundary of the City of Sydney local council area (mayoralty) have been significantly altered by state governments on at least four occasions since 1945, with advantageous effect to the governing party in the New South Wales Parliament at the time. As of 2005, the councils of the City of Sydney and the City of South Sydney are merged. == Landmarks == The city's most famous landmarks are the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Sydney Opera House, both of which are located on Sydney Harbour. Sydney's principal river is the Parramatta River, which enters Sydney Harbour from the west. While the Harbour is famous for its racing yachts, the Boxing Day start of the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race and 18ft skiffs, the river is used for dinghy sailing and rowing as well as recreational boating, racing small yachts, recreational fishing, and occasional Dragon Boat racing. Another famous landmark is the Sydney Tower (also known as ''Centrepoint Tower'' or the ''AMP Tower'') which is the second tallest building in the Southern Hemisphere. Darling Harbour is also a popular tourist attraction. Sydney also has an interesting Sydney underground railways (see also CityRail), one of only two in the country (Melbourne has the other). The Sydney Cricket Ground, which retains several beautiful 1920s-era grandstands, hosts several international cricket matches and the Sydney Swans football team. The old adjacent showgrounds, for many years home to the Sydney Royal Easter Show, have been redeveloped as 20th Century Fox's large Sydney studios. Homebush Bay, New South Wales, after holding a large proportion of the major events in the 2000 Olympic Games, now regularly hosts sporting and cultural events, especially at Telstra Stadium. Sydney is also known for the annual Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras. Sydney is home to the Australian Stock Exchange and the Reserve Bank of Australia. It also has 6 university: the University of Sydney, the University of New South Wales, Macquarie University, the University of Technology, Sydney, the University of Western Sydney, and two of the campuses of the Australian Catholic University. === Tourist attractions === Sydney is noted for its tourist attractions, including: *Bondi Beach *Darling Harbour [http://www.darlingharbour.com/] *Chinatown, Sydney *Chinese Garden *New Year's fireworks *King Street Wharf *Oceanworld, Manly.[http://www.sydneymate.com/travel_sydney_australia/Placesofinterest/ManlyOceanWorld/Manly_Ocean_World.htm] *Powerhouse Museum, a museum of science and technology [http://www.phm.gov.au/] *Sydney Aquarium, Darling Harbour. [http://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/] *Sydney Harbour, more correctly known as Port Jackson *Sydney Tower (aka ''Centrepoint Tower''), CBD.[http://www.sydneyskytour.com.au/] *Taronga Zoo, Mosman, New South Wales.[http://www.zoo.nsw.gov.au/] *The Rocks ==Culture== ''Main article:'' Culture of Sydney Sydney boasts a full roster of musical, theatrical and artistic activity throughout the year, from the formal - including the Sydney Symphony Orchestra, the Sydney Theatre Company, the Sydney Dance Company, and the Archibald Prize - to festivals, including the Sydney Festival, a celebration of free performances throughout January. Many internationally known Australian rock bands have had their conception in Sydney, from Midnight Oil to INXS. Sydney also has been home to many visual artists, from the lush pastoralism of Lloyd Rees's depictions of Sydney Harbour to Jeffrey Smart's portraits of bleak urban alienation. Sydney has four large and many smaller museums. The biggest are the Australian Museum (natural history and anthropology), Powerhouse Museum (science, technology and design), Art Gallery of New South Wales and the Museum of Contemporary Art, Sydney. Sydney is also home to several large ethnic communities throughout the greater metropolitan area, and a significant gay community who host the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras along Oxford Street, Sydney. To encourage sharing of cultural, trade and tourist links, the City of Sydney Council maintains sister city relations with the cities San Francisco, Nagoya, Wellington, Portsmouth, Guangzhou, and Florence. ==Sport== * 9 teams in the National Rugby League * Sydney Swans - Australian Football League * 2 teams in the National Basketball League (Australia) * Sydney FC - A-League (Australia) * New South Wales Blues - First-class cricket * Home of the New South Wales Waratahs - Super 12 Rugby Team Sydney is arguably the major Rugby League centre of the world. It is the headquarters of Australian Rugby League and home to 9 of the 15 National Rugby League teams. Sydney was host to the 2000 Summer Olympics. ==Transport== [[Image:Sydney-Monorail.jpg|right|thumb|Monorail above King Street, Sydney]] Sydney is served by extensive train, bus and ferry networks. Sydney trains are run by CityRail, a corporation of the New South Wales State Government. Trains run as suburban commuter rail services in the outer suburbs, then converge in a frequent metro-like service in tunnels under the central business district (CBD). Buses serve the whole metropolitan area. In the city and inner suburb the state-owned Sydney Buses has a monopoly. Services are frequent, even outside peak hours. In the outer suburbs, service is divided up between many private bus companies. These bus services are often criticised for their relative scarcity of service and sometimes complete lack of off-peak service. Sydney Ferries, another state government-owned organisation, runs extensive commuter and tourist ferry services on Sydney Harbour and the Parramatta River. Sydney has one light rail line, the Metro Light Rail, running from Central railway station, Sydney to Lilyfield. There is also a monorail which runs in a loop around the main shopping district and Darling Harbour. Sydney is serviced by an extensive network of freeways and tollways (known as motorways) and roads. The most important trunk routes in the metropolitan area form the Metroad system. Kingsford Smith International Airport, located in the suburb of Mascot, New South Wales, is Sydney's main airport. The smaller Bankstown Airport mainly serves private and general aviation. There are light aviation airfields at Hoxton Park and Camden, New South Wales. RAAF Base Richmond lies to the north-west of the city. ==Regions and suburbs== === Regions of Sydney === The extensive area covered by metropolitan Sydney is formally divided into more than 300 suburbs (for addressing and postal purposes), and formally administered by about 38 separate local government areas (in addition to the extensive responsibilities of the New South Wales State government and its agencies). In addition, there are a number of regional descriptions which are used informally to conveniently describe large sections of the metropolitan area. However it should be noted that there are many suburbs which are not conveniently described by any of the following informal regional categories. *Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) *Hills District (Sydney) *Inner West (Sydney) *Northern Beaches (Sydney) *North Shore (Sydney) *Southern Sydney *South-western Sydney *Sutherland Shire *Western Sydney === Sydney suburbs and satellite cities === Metropolitan Sydney cover about 2000 square kilometers, has 4.5 million inhabitants and about 300 suburb. There are about 38 local government areas in the Sydney region, each containing several suburbs. See Local Government Areas of New South Wales. The City of Sydney covers a fairly small area comprising downtown Sydney and neighbouring inner-city neighbourhoods. ====Local government areas==== the City of Sydney, as well as: {| |- valign="top" | *Ashfield, New South Wales *Auburn, New South Wales *Bankstown *Baulkham Hills Shire *Blacktown *Botany Bay *Burwood, New South Wales | *Camden, New South Wales *Campbelltown, New South Wales *Canada Bay *Canterbury, New South Wales *Fairfield, New South Wales *Holroyd *Hornsby Shire, New South Wales | *Hunter's Hill *Hurstville *Kogarah *Ku-ring-gai Council *Lane Cove *Leichhardt *Liverpool, New South Wales | *Manly *Marrickville, New South Wales *Mosman, New South Wales *North Sydney *Parramatta *Penrith, Australia *Pittwater | *Randwick, New South Wales *Rockdale, New South Wales *Ryde, New South Wales *Strathfield *Sutherland Shire *Warringah *Waverley, New South Wales | *Willoughby, New South Wales *Woollahra |} This is a partial list of Sydney suburbs and satellite cities. For a complete suburbs listing see List of Sydney suburbs. ====Selected suburbs==== ''Main articles:'' List of Sydney suburbs, :Category:Suburbs of Sydney *Cabramatta, New South Wales *Castle Hill, New South Wales *Darlinghurst *Glebe, New South Wales *Hornsby, New South Wales *Hurstville *Newtown, New South Wales *Parramatta *Redfern, New South Wales ====Sydney localities==== *Goat Island, Sydney *Kings Cross, New South Wales *Voyager Point *Rookwood Cemetery *Chinatown, Sydney ==See also== *Sydney Riot of 1879 *Crime in Sydney *List of cities in Australia *List of Australian television channels *List of Australian radio stations *Sydney Anglicans ==External links== * *[http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/trafficreports/cameras/sydneyharbourbridge.html Sydney Harbour Bridge Webcam] * [http://www.metrostrategy.nsw.gov.au Sydney Metropolitan Strategy] - A NSW State Government initiative to guide growth and change in the Sydney Metropolitan Area over the next 30 years. * [http://www.terragalleria.com/pacific/australia/sydney/ Pictures of Sydney - Terra Galleria] * [http://photosydney.blogspot.com Photos and Information on Sydney life - PhotoSydney] * [http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDN10064.txt Sydney Weather Forecast] * [http://www.todi-media.com Virtual Tour of Sydney] Information, Animations, Photos and Videos Australian capital cities Cities in New South Wales Coastal cities Port cities Host cities of the Summer Olympic Games Metropolitan areas Sydney hi:सिडनी simple:Sydney
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''This article is a part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sydney.'' ==Misc== In the transport or history section it might be worth noting that Sydney was once well-served by a tram system, before that system was gradually but determinedly dismantled, to be replaced by noisy, slow, polluting, infrequent, overcrowded buses. My reasoning behind this proposed entry is not that I am a tram nutter but that I have noticed that the presence or absence of trams in a city is a major indicator of the quality of life afforded its citizens. A recommended source for Sydney history pictures (of trams, the harbourside and other landmarks) is the work of photographer Max Dupain. --MJL If the :Melbourne entry is going to mention that city's distance from Sydney . . . Oh, and you might mention the city's namesake. ---- As an inhabitant of Sydney, I honestly can't see why its subway is considered interesting - some details please, or else excise the reference -- MB : Probably just a remnant of the :Underground nomenclature wars :-) --Anders Törlind Manning: You don't find Sydney's subway system interesting? You've obviously never gone on a tour of the disused tunnels off St. James station :) -- User:SJK ::Sydney's subway is really just the urban section of the suburban rail network. The most interesting feature as far as I'm concerned is that double-decker trains run underground in the city centre. >>>>User:Lee M 01:15, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC) :::Double-decked trains are the ''only'' type of trains on the CityRail network, and such that fact really isn't that interesting :) User:Dysprosia 01:19, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC) ::::Sydney is still the only city I know that has double-decker trains running underground in the city centre. If I choose to be interested by that then it's interesting. :P User:Lee M 13:13, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC) :::::I know of another city, Paris, that has a far more extensive double-decker underground system, which is part of its RER network. This is not its underground system though, the famous metro. On the other hand, in many underground train systems, all the lines do not run underground all the time - underground trains typically run above ground on occassion. Sydney has a kind of underground in the form of the City Circle line, which is the remainder of a plan to produce a real underground system. --User:Mgekelly 02:02, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC) ---- Again, some discussion of Sin City's criminal past is worthwhile, but the article as it stands gives the misleading impression that the crime rate is extremely high in world terms, which is just not true. Not even Alan Jones can make it so.---User:Robert Merkel 07:31 Dec 5, 2002 (UTC) I agree - the crime section seems very out of place - wm :I've bitten the bullet and yanked it and whacked a great big disclaimer on top. If somebody wants to fix it, well and good, otherwise it can stay well out of the way. --User:Robert Merkel 04:13 10 Jun 2003 (UTC) :: That'sinteresting - it was part of a seprate article in the first place! ( See history of this page) User:Arno 07:35 10 Jun 2003 (UTC) ---- I just had a look at the Toronto city page and it seems to have more "stuff" and I think Toronto is good comparison city for Sydney. I might attempt to write some more stuff on Culture (isn't that with a K??) Film Festivals, Theatre (STC, Belvoir) Mardi Gras, Sydney Festival, SSO/ACO/Musica Viva etc etc any other thoughts?? User:Scotth1 08:33, 2004 Mar 17 (UTC) :feel free to expand the culture of Sydney article, it's good to add a summary of whatever you add there in the main article, but don't add all the content in the main article. the toronto article is rather long, and should probably have sections such as history, hived off into separate articles when they get very long, with prominent ''Main article'' links to them, similar to the way the country articles are laid out (see New York City as an example of how this is done). unfortunately many of the city articles aren't following the Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities template (even though it says it's for US cities, it can be used for non-US cities). User:Clarkk 09:44, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC) ==links in headings== links should not generally appear in headings of narrative articles (sometimes it's OK in "list of"-style articles) see: Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Headings, also Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries and other templates (see my comment above), as well other articles use the ''Main article:'' convention. User:Clarkk 12:39, 16 May 2004 (UTC) How can Sydeny be the largest cityin the southern hemisphere? Isn't Rio and Sao Paulo located in the southern hemisphere also? == How to list LGAs? == I added a list of local government areas...IMHO these are more important then most of the listed suburbs...only ''notable'' suburbs that aren't also LGAs should be listed, e.g. Bondi Junction, Chatswood, Cronulla. But the list is pretty long. Too long? I don't know how to format it into two columns. Maybe it's better to have a separate article, 'list of Sydney local government areas'.--User:Randwicked 10:06, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC) :There is a Local Government Areas of New South Wales. I really don't think the LGA list needs be here, maybe not even the suburbs, unless super-special. All those lists should be kept seperate. User talk:TPKUser:TPK 16:09, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC) ::A soulution may be to add the Sydney_regions template instead. Might look a little neater, and it lists all the LGAs AND 'regions'. -User:Randwicked 10:45, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC) == Chinatown of Sydney == I'm trying to develop the Australian section of the article on Chinatown, so no country will feel they're excluded from the list. Does Sydney also follow the old touristy urban Sydney Chinatown vs. the new surburban Chinatown pattern? If you have any local perspective, please add them to the article. By the way, correct anything you feel is erroneous. * So people are very quick to delete the link to the main Chinatown article (I added it because it could use some more information on Sydney's Chinatown), but yet they're not so quick in adding much-needed new information to it. Sad. ::I've added some info to the Chinatown, Sydney article, but I don't think a link to an article on generic Chinatowns is appropriate in a list of Sydney tourist attractions. The Sydney Aquarium listing doesn't need a link to Aquarium.--User:Randwicked 15:44, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC) == Rugby League == The ARL is a unique sport mainly played in Sydney. Someone wanna write something about that if they're interested? I made a start in the Sports section. Needs a lot of work though. == Largest suburban area == I find no reference for this claim outside wikipedia mirrors. Its metro area is nowhere as big as LA's or New York's, and 'suburban' is a dodgy term. I changed it to 'one of the world's largest urban areas for its population', which is definitely true as the density is low. User:Randwicked 04:19, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC) :[http://au.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761566879/Sydney_(Australia).html Encarta :Sydney] gives an area for the city and suburbs of about 12,400 sq km. [http://www.uic.edu/cuppa/cityfutures/papers/webpapers/cityfuturespapers/session3_4/3_4whicharethe.pdf This paper] discusses the population and sizes of various cities. It is mainly interested in the top twenty by population. The listed cities and their size in sq kms are: New York (17884), Moscow (14925), Chicago (12028), London (11391), Buenos Aires (10888), Los Angeles (10780), Sao Paulo (8479), Tokyo (8014), Mexico City (7346), Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto (6930), Beijing (6562), Shanghai (5177), Jakarta (5100), Seoul (5076), Delhi-New Delhi (3182), Hong Kong-Shenzhen (3051), Manila (2521), Mumbai (Bombay) (2350), Kolkata (Calcutta) (1785), Cairo (1600), Karachi (1100). If the Encarta area is correct, the Sydney article should not claim it is the biggest city by area. It can claim it is bigger than most of the cities in the list. --User:CloudSurfer 10:51, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC) ::By the way, Los Angeles is listed on several sites as 1,215 sq km so Sydney is bigger than LA - just. --User:CloudSurfer 08:36, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Sydney is not the largest (in area) city in Australia, let alone the world. See Mt Isa. It is true that Sydney is not the largest city in the world by area. This is not relevant. The claim being disputed is whether Greater Sydney has the largest suburban area in the world. I did not originate this claim and was curious about its veracity when I first came across it in this article. As it is, I found two references for it fairly quickly: [http://www.international.mq.edu.au/macquarie/sydney/about.html] and [http://www.archsoc.com/personal/]. Although one of them comes from a university website, I can excuse someone for not thinking that these are authoritative. But the assumption has hardly been pulled out of the air either. I have no inclination to want to argue the point, however. I am content that the claim has been withdrawn due to lack of evidence. --User:Susurrus 08:27, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Hmm, here's some pretty definitive evidence that the claim is wrong. [http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?s=600e704ded9380ba8e21a56a8d7dc748&threadid=44966], someone has illustrated all the world's major cities to scale. These are actual built up areas. Sydney pretty pales in comparison to even mid-range American cities, though it's quite large compared to most in Europe. I think that this claim about Sydney is just one of those things that is repeated so many times people take it as fact. I've heard that Aucklanders say the same about their city. - User:Randwicked 12:56, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Fair enough. I'm actually delighted to see bad facts getting so robustly vetted out of a Wikipedia article by peer review. I've done it myself for a few articles, but it always felt like I was nearly alone in the process. You want to feel like there's a real group out there available for checks and balances. --User:Susurrus 03:24, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) == History of Sydney Melbourne rivalry == Is there an article on this somewhere? If not there should be. The interesting thing I find about it is that the rivalry seems more prominent in Sydney than in Melbourne. People in Sydney have a dislike of Melbourne whereas people in Melbourne generally like Sydney but dislike its egocentricity, or at least that is my experience. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that Melbourne was for many years after the gold rush larger and more influential than Sydney. It was chosen as the first capital of Australia. Many federal government institutions were set up there and have gradually left for Canberra or sometimes Sydney. It had all the embassies and all of these factors were reasons for many companies setting up there. With the move of the capital to Canberra, Sydney was then much closer and this has been a factor in Sydney's rise, not to mention the weather and the harbour views. Interestingly, most people in Sydney are unaware that Melbourne was ever the capital of Australia. I suspect they have forgotten why they don't like Melbourne. I am sure there must be heaps of documentation from the time of Federation and both before and after. I am not a historian but surely this is an interesting topic for someone. --User:CloudSurfer 23:25, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) :I have thought about an article before, but couldn't find any real information online, though I didn't search all too hard, and there's bound to be something offline too. As a Melburnian, I can say that the rivalry still exists here, and we do from time to time get 'Opera House envy' if you can call it that - things like trying to develop a landmark building in the Docklands, but not knowing exactly what it should be. I've always laughed at this rivalry though; where else has the government said "If you can't play fair with it, neither of you get it!" Frankly, it would have been better here :P User talk:TPKUser:TPK 06:54, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) ::I have found some interesting stats that I have put on the Talk:Melbourne page. In 1901 Melbourne was just larger than Sydney with NSW having a larger population by some degree but in 1881 the population of Vic was much larger than NSW. Federation didn't just happen in 1901 there was a long lead time. Another reason for Canberra was to be inland for strategic reasons. That way an army would have more problem attacking the capital. Mind you it didn't stop the British when they trashed Washington DC in the War of 1812. --User:CloudSurfer 08:28, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) :::yes it did - they needed to sail up the Ptomac. Canberra is up in the mountains - it's impregnable. The point should be that taking Canberra or not would have little or no strategic significance, since it's only Canberra.--User:Mgekelly 08:27, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Cloudsurfer, I've found the opposite...people in Membourne have a HUUUGE chip on their shoulders about their second-class status and are always going out of their way to prove they're as good or better than us. Whereas Sydney people are too busy toning our perfect abs and talking property prices to care about Melbourne either way. :p - User:Randwicked 14:40, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) ::I'm a resident of neither city, but I did see a quote once from a Sydneysider: "Melbourne think they are winning a race that we didn't even know we were in" User:*Paul* 08:19, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Alternative satellite photo== FYI, there's another NASA satellite photo of Sydney [http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03498 here] - much higher res (maybe too high?). Can be used under the ''PD-USGov-NASA'' image tag. - User:Nickj 03:34, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC) == Regions == I really disagree with the list of regions of sydney, though I like the concept. Rather than ''Western Sydney'', we should be talking about the ''Outer West'' and the ''South West''. I also feel that the ''Sutherland Shire'' is a distinct (socio)geographical entity to Southern Sydney. Thought I'd sound people out before makign alterations.--User:Mgekelly 08:37, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) : I agree. Southern Sydney's really two distinct regions, The Shire and St George. Ditto the others can be broken up into sub regions. If you know what the current breakdown is, go ahead and change it. - User:Randwicked 15:03, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) ::sounds fine with me. User:Clarkk 09:52, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC) If I had to divide the city up into relatively cohesive and comparable regions I'd do it so: *Inner City *Eastern Suburbs *Inner West *Lower North Shore *Upper North Shore (Hornsby-Ku-ring-gai) *Northern Beaches *Ryde *Hills District *St. George *the Shire (Sutherland) *Inner South West (Canterbury-Bankstown area) *West (Parramatta-Auburn area) *Outer South West(Liverpool area) *Outer West (Blacktown-Penrith area) *Macarthur (Campbelltown-Camden area) Now I don't know if some other areas have regional names like St. George and Macarthur. Some sub-regions of these regions have names, like Wentworth is a part of the Eastern Suburbs. But is there a local name for the Inner South West? Non-pejorative I mean? - User:Randwicked 15:08, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC) : I think you might be going a bit far with this, but then from my City Centre perspective, it's difficult to say. I've separated off the Shire and the South-West. My feeling is that the latter can be used to cover everything from Liverpool/Cabramatta to Campbelltown. Canterbury-Bannkstown is a bit tough though. BTW, I've heard Hills District residents (unsurprisingly if you think about it) describe the Hills as the Upper North Shore.--User:Mgekelly 06:26, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) :: Well as a former North Shore resident I can tell you that the Hills would NEVER be accepted as part of the Upper North. :) -User:Randwicked 10:20, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) Hey, I have no idea how to change the inset that appears on all the Sydney pages listing the regions, suburbs etc. to match what I've done on this page. Would really appreciate knowing how.--User:Mgekelly 06:34, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) :you edit the template: template:Sydney regions. every
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