Rutgers University

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Rutgers University

Motto Sol iustitiae et occidentem illustra
(''Sun of righteousness, shine upon the West also.'')

Established 10 November 1766

School type Public, Research University

President Richard L. McCormick

Location Three campuses: New Brunswick, New Jersey / Piscataway, New Jersey, Camden, New Jersey and Newark, New Jersey, New Jersey United States

Enrollment 51,480 undergraduate,
12,904 graduate
Faculty 2,552
Endowment US$398,178,000
Athletics 27 Sports Teams
Website [http://www.rutgers.edu/ www.rutgers.edu]

Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, is located in New Brunswick, New Jersey, Piscataway, New Jersey, Camden, New Jersey and Newark, New Jersey, New Jersey. Considered a prestigious public university, Rutgers offers more than 100 distinct bachelor, 100 master, and 80 doctoral and professional degree programs across 29 degree-granting schools and colleges, 16 of which offer graduate programs of study. Rutgers is the Colonial colleges institution of higher learning established in the United States, originally chartered as Queen's College in 1766. Rutgers was designated the State University of New Jersey by legislative acts in 1945 and 1956. The University of Newark merged with Rutgers in 1946, expanding the school to include the current campus in Newark. The College of South Jersey, which became the Camden campus, merged in 1950. ==About Rutgers University== Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, is a leading national research university and is unique as the only university in the nation that is a Colonial colleges (1766), a land grant college (1864), and a state university (1945/1956). The university is made up of 29 degree-granting divisions; 12 undergraduate colleges, 11 graduate schools, and three schools offering both undergraduate and graduate degrees. Five are located in Camden, seven in Newark, and seventeen in New Brunswick/Piscataway. Rutgers College became the land-grant college of New Jersey in 1864, resulting in the establishment of the Rutgers Scientific School, featuring departments of agriculture, engineering, and chemistry. Further expansion in the sciences came with the founding of the New Jersey Agricultural Experiment Station in 1880 and the division of the Rutgers Scientific School into the College of Engineering (now the School of Engineering) in 1914 and the College of Agriculture (now Cook College) in 1921. The precursors to several other Rutgers divisions were also established during this period: the College of Pharmacy (now the Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy) in 1892, the New Jersey College for Women (now Douglass College) in 1918, and the School of Education in 1924. After the initial legislation designating Rutgers as the New Jersey's state university was passed in 1945, the University of Newark (in 1946) and the College of South Jersey (in 1950) were annexed into the Rutgers University system. The first Summer Session began in 1913 with one six-week session. That summer program offered 47 courses and had an enrollment of 314 students. Currently, Summer Session offers over 1,000 courses to more than 15,000 students on the Camden, New Jersey, Newark, New Jersey, and New Brunswick, New Jersey/Piscataway, New Jersey campuses, off-campus, and abroad. Rutgers was designated the State University of New Jersey by legislatives acts in 1945 and 1956. The University of Newark merged with Rutgers in 1946, expanding the school to include the current campus in Newark, New Jersey. The College of South Jersey, in Camden, New Jersey, merged with Rutgers in 1950, becoming the Rutgers-Camden campus. Since the 1950s, Rutgers has continued to expand, especially in the area of graduate education. The Graduate School—New Brunswick, Graduate School—Newark, and Graduate School—Camden each serve their respective campuses. In addition, professional schools have been established in such areas as business, management, public policy, law, social work, criminal justice, applied and professional psychology, the fine arts, and communication, information and library studies. (A number of these schools offer undergraduate programs as well.) Also at the undergraduate level, Livingston College was founded in 1969, emphasizing the urban environment. On September 10, 1970, after several years of debate and planning, the Board of Governors voted to admit women into the previously all-male Rutgers College. The transformation from single-sex to coeducation institutions became a trend in many colleges across the United States that had—up to the late 1960's and early 1970's—remained all-male. Today, Douglass College (originally the New Jersey College for Women) remains all-female, while the rest of the institution is coeducation. Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, is accredited by the Commission on Higher Education of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools (since 1921). In 1989, Rutgers University became a member of the Association of American Universities, an organization comprised of the 62 leading research universities in North America. Richard Levis McCormick (b. 1947) is the current president of Rutgers University. ==Divisions of the University== ===New Brunswick/Piscataway Campus=== * Cook College * Douglass College * Livingston College * Rutgers College * University College�New Brunswick * College of Nursing * Edward J. Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy * Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy * Graduate School�New Brunswick * Graduate School of Applied and Professional Psychology * Graduate School of Education * Mason Gross School of the Arts * Rutgers Business School�New Brunswick * School of Communication, Information and Library Studies * School of Engineering * School of Management and Labor Relations * School of Social Work ===Newark Campus=== The Newark campus of Rutgers University was formerly known as the University of Newark, which was merged with Rutgers in 1946 by an act of the New Jersey legislature. The University of Newark was established in 1935, growing out from the consolidation of five educational institutions in Newark, New Jersey—namely, ''Dana College'', the ''Newark Institute of Arts and Sciences'', the ''Seth Boyden School of Business'', the ''Mercer Beasley School of Law'' and the ''New Jersey Law School''. Today, the 35 acre (142,000 m²) Newark Campus consists of the following degree-granting divisions: * Newark College of Arts and Sciences * University College�Newark * Graduate School�Newark * College of Nursing * Rutgers Business School�Newark * School of Criminal Justice * School of Law�Newark ===Camden Campus=== The Camden campus of Rutgers University was formerly known as the College of South Jersey, which was merged with Rutgers in 1950 by an act of the New Jersey legislature. The College of South Jersey was established in 1910 in Camden, New Jersey. Today, the 40 acre (162,000 m²) Camden campus consists of the following degree-granting divisions: * Camden College of Arts and Sciences * University College�Camden * Graduate School�Camden * School of Business�Camden * School of Law�Camden ==Rutgers: History and tradition== ===Early History=== Shortly after the creation of Princeton University (later Princeton University) in 1746, ministers of the Dutch Reformed Church sought to establish autonomy in ecclesiastical affairs. At that time, those who wanted to become ministers in within the church had to travel to the Netherlands to be trained and ordination, and many of the affairs of churches in the Colonial America were managed from Europe. Thus, the ministers sought to create a governing body known as a classis to give local autonomy to the church in the colonies, and offer opportunities for the education of ministers. Throughout the 1750s, Dutch ministers joined the effort to create an classis in the colonies, including Theodorus Jacobus Frelinghuysen who travelled on horseback in winter of 1755 to several congregations throughout the northeast to rally ministers and congregations to the cause. Soon after, Frelinghuysen travelled to Netherlands to appeal to the General Synod, the Dutch Reformed Church's governing council for the creation of the classis. In 1761, the effort having failed, Frelinghuysen set sail for the colonies, but as the vessel approached New York, he mysteriously perished at sea. After Frelinghuysen's death, Jacob Rutsen Hardenbergh (later Rutgers' first president), established himself as spokesperson for the cause, and a strong supporter of establishing a college in New Jersey. Hardenbergh, travelled to Europe renewing Frelinghuysen's efforts to gain the Synod's approval, but was also rejected. Much to the Synod's chagrin, however, Hardenburgh returned to the Colonial America with money for the establishment of a college. ===Queen's College=== Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, was chartered on November 10, 1766 as "Queen's College," in honor of King George III's Queen-consort, Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz (1744–1818). The charter was signed and the young college supported by William Franklin (1730–1813), the last Royal Governor of New Jersey and illegitimate son of Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790). The original charter specified the establishment both of the college, and of an institution called the Queen's College Grammar School, intended to be a preparatory school affiliated and governed by the college. This institution, today the Rutgers Preparatory School, was a part of the college community until 1957. The original purpose of Queen's College was to "''educate the youth in language, liberal, the divinity, and useful arts and sciences''" and for the training of future ministers for the Dutch Reformed Church—though the university is now non-sectarian and makes no religious demands on its students. (Ironically, given the tenets of Christianity, the college first met at a tavern called the Sign of the Red Lion, on what is today the grounds of the Johnson & Johnson Corporation corporate headquarters in New Brunswick, New Jersey.) It admitted its first students in 1771—a single sophomore and a handful of first-year students taught by a lone instructor—and granted its first degree in 1774, to Matthew Leydt. When the American Revolution broke out, the college abandoned the tavern and held classes in private houses, in and near New Brunswick. During its early years, the college developed as a classic liberal arts institution. In its early years, Queen's College was plagued by a lack of funds. In 1793, with the fledgling college falling on hard times, the board of trustees voted on a resoluton to merge with the College of New Jersey (now Princeton University). The measure failed by one vote. The problem did not go away, and in 1795, lacking both funds and tutors, the trustees consider moving the college to New York. Instead, they decide to close, only to reopen in 1808 after the Trustees raised $12,000. The next year, the College got a building of its own, affectionately called "Old Queen's" (which still stands), which is regarded today by architectural experts as one of the nation's finest examples of Federal style architecture. University President Ira Condict laid the cornerstone on 27 April 1809. However, continued financial woes would cause the building to wait 14 years for completion, that combined with a nationwide economic depression and the impending War of 1812 forced Queen's College to close down a second time, in 1812. In its early years, Queen's College, the Rutgers Preparatory School, and the New Brunswick Theological Seminary shared space in Old Queens. In 1856, with Old Queens suffering from overcrowding, the Seminary, moved to a home of its own nearby. In 1825, Queen's College was reopened, and its name was changed to "Rutgers College" in honor of American Revolutionary War hero Colonel Henry Rutgers (1745–1830). According to the Board of Trustees, Colonel Rutgers was honored because he epitomized Christian values, however, it probably helped that the Colonel gave a gift that set the college on secure financial footing. Rutgers, a descendant of an old Dutch family that settled in New Amsterdam (now New York City), gave the fledgling college a $5000 bond and a bell to be placed in the cupola of Old Queens. The college's early troubles inspired numerous student songs, including an adaptation of the drinking song ''Down Among the Dead Men'' with the lyrics "Here's a drink to old Rutgers, loyal men, May she ne'er go down but to rise again." "Rutgers College" became "Rutgers University" in 1924. ===Athletics=== Rutgers was among the first American institutions to engage in intercollegiate athletics, and participated in a small circle of schools that included Yale University, Columbia University and long-time rival, Princeton University. On May 2, 1866, in the first intercollegiate athletic event in Rutgers history, the Rutgers baseball team was humiliated by the Princeton team, 40-2. On November 6, 1869, Rutgers became the "Birthplace of College Football" when it defeated Princeton, six "runs" to four, in the first intercollegiate football game ever played (the site, then a field, is now occupied by the College Avenue Gymnasium). Instead of wearing uniforms, the players stripped off their hats, coats, and vests and bound their suspenders around the waistbands of their trousers. For headgear, the Rutgers team wound their scarlet scarves into turbans atop their heads. This led to the College later adopting scarlet as its school color. The game— with rules more resembling those of soccer than the later form of American football—gave birth to a new pastime described as "''replete with surprise, strategy, prodigies of determination, and physical prowess''." During the 1870s, games resembling rugby football became popular at other American colleges, and Rutgers eventually adopted similar rules. These games developed into what is today known as American football. However, Rutgers proceeded to lose at football to Princeton each year for the next 68 years, only breaking that losing streak in 1938. An amusing sidenote: the first intercollegiate competition in Ultimate frisbee was held between Rutgers and Princeton University on 6 November 1972—the 103rd anniversary of the first intercollegiate football game. Today, Rutgers University is a member of the Big East Conference, (in football since 1991, all other sports since 1995) a collegiate athletic conference consisting of thirteen colleges and universities in the Northeastern United States. Rutgers is a Division I-A school as sanctioned by the National Collegiate Athletic Association. The Rutgers-Camden and Rutgers-Newark campuses participate in Division III athletics within the New Jersey Athletic Conference. The Rutgers University mascot is the Scarlet Knight. ===Traditions and Legacies=== Howard Fullerton, a member of the Order of the Bull's Blood, goes down in Rutgers history not only for his penning the ''alma mater'' but for allegedly inspiring the theft of a cannon from the campus of Princeton University on 25 April 1875, an event—and the ensuing debate between the two university presidents—reported in nationwide newspapers. Princeton students retaliated by raiding the Rutgers Armory and stealing a few muskets. Eventually the committee appointed by the two colleges recommended the return the stolen items to their owners before the event. When the cannon was returned, Princeton University officials ordered it buried in the ground, encased in cement, with only a few feet of the butt end exposed above ground. Several Rutgers students attempted to repeat the crime, unsuccessfully, in October 1946, attaching one end of a length of heavy chain to the cannon and the other to their Ford. Surprised by Princeton men and the local constabulatory, they gunned the engine of the Ford so viciously that the car was torn in half. The Rutgers army manages to escape, but with neither the car, nor their prize, the cannon. To this day, intrepid Rutgers students journey the 20 miles to Princeton University to place their declaration of ownership of the cannon by painting the cannon scarlet red. Unfortunately, like the students who stole the cannon in 1875, they usually paint the wrong cannon, as there are two on Cannon Green behind Nassau Hall at Princeton University. Today, a cannon is placed in the ground before Old Queens at Rutgers, memorializing both this event, and alumni in the service who were killed in action. At Commencement, tradition leads undergraduates to break clay pipes over the cannon, symbolizing the breaking of ties with the college, and leaving behind the good times of one's undergraduate years. This symbolism dates back to when pipe-smoking was fashionable among undergraduates, and many college memories were derived from evenings of pipe smoking and revelry with friends. ===Trivia=== * The College Avenue Gymnasium, built on the site where the first college football game was played, hosted New Jersey 1947 and 1966 Constitutional Conventions. * In 1810, a book of 104 rules and regulations are published to guide student down a moral path. Among these rules were prohibitions on dancing and fencing schools, billiards, cards, dice, beer and oyster houses, firearms, powder, and public ball alleys; and further, no student was to "disguise himself for the purpose of imposition or amusement," "speak upon the public stage anything indecent, profane, or immoral," or "employ a barber on the Lord's day to dress his head or shave him." * In 1879, Mark Twain, the famed American author, accepted an honorary membership into the Philoclean Society at Rutgers, but failed to make the customary monetary contribution. * In addition to being the "birthplace of college football," Rutgers has given birth to discoveries and innovations such as Cheez-Whiz, water-soluble sustained release polymers, Tetraploids, robotic hands, artificial bovine insemination, and developed the ceramic tiles for the heat shield on the Space Shuttle. ===Alma Mater=== The ''alma mater'' of Rutgers University is the song entitled ''On the Banks of the Old Raritan'', written by Howard Fullerton (Class of 1872). The lyrics to the song are, as follows: : I. : My father sent me to old Rutgers, : And resolv'd that I should be a man; : And so I settled down, : in that noisy college town, : On the banks of the old Raritan. : (''Chorus'') : On the banks of the old Raritan, my boys, : where old Rutgers ever more shall stand, : For has she not stood since the time of the flood, : On the banks of the old Raritan. : II. : Then sing aloud to Alma Mater, : And keep the scarlet in the van; : For with her motto high, : Rutgers' name shall never die, : On the banks of the old Raritan. : (''Chorus'') : *N.B.: ''The phrase "my boys" in the first line of the chorus was changed in 1990 to "my friends" in light of Rutgers being coeducation since 1970.'' ==Presidents of Rutgers University== # 1785–1790 Jacob Rutsen Hardenbergh (1736–1790) # 1791–1795 William Linn (1752–1808) # 1795–1810 Ira Condict (1764–1811) # 1810–1825 John Henry Livingston (1746–1825) # 1825–1840 Philip Milledoler (1775–1852) # 1840–1850 Abraham Bruyn Hasbrouck (1791–1879) # 1850–1862 Theodore Frelinghuysen (1787–1862) # 1862–1882 William H. Campbell (1808–1890) # 1882–1890 Merrill Edward Gates (1848–1922) # 1891–1906 Austin Scott (1848–1922) # 1906–1924 William H. S. Demarest (1863–1956) # 1925–1930 John Martin Thomas (1869–1952) # 1930–1931 Philip Milledoler Brett (1871–1960) # 1932–1951 Robert Clarkson Clothier (1885–1970) # 1951–1958 Lewis Webster Jones (1899–1975) # 1959–1971 Mason W. Gross (1911–1977) # 1971–1989 Edward J. Bloustein (1925–1989) # 1990–2002 Francis L. Lawrence (b. 1937) # 2002— Richard L. McCormick (b. 1947) ==Notable alumni== ===Politics, government and public service=== * Phillip Alampi, Class of 1934, M.A. 1945 — New Jersey Secretary of Agriculture * Joseph P. Bradley, Class of 1836 — Associate Justice, United States Supreme Court * Clifford P. Case, Class of 1925 — United States Senator * Jim Florio, J.D. 1967 — former Governor of New Jersey * Louis Freeh, Class of 1971 — Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (1993–2001) * Frederick T. Frelinghuysen, Class of 1836 — Vice President of the United States Candidate, United States Senator * E. Scott Garrett J.D. 1984 — U.S. House of Representatives * Garret A. Hobart, Class of 1863 — Industrialist, Vice President of the United States, (1897–1899) * Richard Hughes, J.D. 1931 — New Jersey Governor, Chief State Supreme Court Justice * William Hughes, Class of 1955 — Congressman, Ambassador to Panama * Jack Jacobs, Class of 1966, M.A. 1972 — Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient, military analyst for MSNBC * Robert Menendez — U.S. House of Representative * William Newell, Class of 1836 — Physician, Governor of New Jersey * Hazel O'Leary — U.S. Secretary of Energy (1993–1997) * David A. Morse, Class of 1929 — Director-General of ILO who accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in 1969 on behalf of the ILO * James Schureman, Class of 1775 — Continental Congress, Senator. * Robert Torricelli, Class of 1974 — United States Senator, Congressman * Peter Rodino, Jr., J.D. 1937 — Congressman * Foster Voorhees, Class of 1876 — New Jersey Governor ===Business=== * Roger Ackerman, Class of 1960, M.A. 1962 — former chairman and CEO of Corning, Inc. * Jay Chiat, Class of 1953 — advertising executive * James Cullen, Class of 1964 — former president and COO of Bell Atlantic * Sharon Fordham, Class of 1975 — CEO of WeightWatchers.com, Inc. * Arthur Goldberg, Class of 1963 — former president and CEO of Park Place Entertainment Corporation * James Kelly, Class of 1973 — former chairman and CEO of UPS * Leonor F. Loree, Class of 1877 — President of the Pennsylvania Railroad * Bernie Marcus, Class of 1951 — Founder of the Home Depot * Gregg Spiridellis, Class of 1993 — founder of JibJab.com * David Lloyd Kreeger, Class of 1929 — founder of GEICO * Ernest Mario, Class of 1961 — former CEO of Glaxo * Marty Yudkovitz — former president of Tivo ===Medicine=== * Clifton R. Lacy, Class of 1975 — New Jersey Commissioner of Health and Senior Services * William Trager, Class of 1930 — developed new treatements for Malaria * Selman Waksman, Class of 1915 — discovered 22 antibiotics, best known for streptomycin. Nobel laureate. * H. Boyd Woodruff, Class of 1939/Graduate School 1942 — discovered antibiotic actinomycin. ===Academia=== * Carol Christ, Class of 1966 — President of Smith College * Milton Friedman, Class of 1932 — Economist, Nobel Laureate * William H. S. Demarest, Class of 1883 — President of Rutgers University * Philip Milledoler Brett, Class of 1892 — President of Rutgers University, Successful Corporate Attorney * Carl Woodward, Class of 1914 — President of University of Rhode Island * William Kirwan, M.A. 1962, 1964 — Chancellor of the University System of Maryland, former President of Ohio State University * Roy Franklin Nichols, Class of 1918 — Pulitzer Prize-winning historian ===Science & Engineering=== * Simeon DeWitt, Class of 1776 — Geographer for George Washington and Continental Army during the American Revolution * Ramzi Yousef — Terrorist, involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing (studied Chemical Engineering, briefly) * Nidal Ayyad — Terrorist, involved in 1993 World Trade Center bombing (graduated in Chemical Engineering ) * Peter C. Schultz, Class of 1964 — co-inventor of fiber optics * Stanley N. Cohen, Class of 1956 — geneticist, pioneer in gene splicing * Louis Gluck, Class of 1948 — considered the father of neonatology, the science of caring for newborn infants * Philip S. Schein, Class of 1961 — cancer researcher, founder of U.S. Bioscience * Matthew Golombek, Class of 1976 — project scientist in charge of NASA's Pathfinder mission to Mars * Terry Hart, Class of 1978 — Astronaut, president of LORAL Skynet ===Arts & letters=== * Martin Agronsky, Class of 1936 — Journalist * Richard Aregood, Class of 1965 — Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist * Alice Aycock, Class of 1968 — Sculptor * Samuel Blackman, Class of 1927 — Journalist * James Blish, Class of 1942 — Science fiction and fantasy author. * Janet Evanovich, Class of 1965 — Best-selling Author * Jerry Izenberg, Class of 1952 — Emmy-winning sports journalist * Joyce Kilmer, Class of 1908 (''did not graduate'') — poet, died in France during World War I. * Robert Pinsky, Class of 1962 — Poet Laureate of the United States of America, Winner of the Pulitzer Prize. * George Segal, GSNB 1963 — Sculptor * Michael Shaara, Class of 1951 — author of ''The Killer Angels'' and Winner of the Pulitzer Prize ===Entertainment and sports=== * Ruthie Alcaide — Cast Member on "The Real World" * Roger Bart — Actor ("The Producers", Tony Award for "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown") * Mario Batali, Class of 1982 — Chef, Restauranteur, Television Host (''Molto Mario'', ''Iron Chef America'') * Marco Battaglia, NFL tight end * Bill Bellamy — Comedian, Actor * Avery Brooks, Class of 1973 — Actor, Educator * Asia Carrera (born Jessica Bennett), Class of 1995 — Porn Star (''who majored in Business and Japanese''). * Kevin Chamberlin — Actor (Tony Award nominations for "Dirty Blonde" and "Seussical") * Deron Cherry, Class of 1981 — defensive back for the Kansas City Chiefs * Kristin Davis, Class of 1987, — Actress (''Sex and the City)'' * Calista Flockhart, Class of 1988 — Actress (stage, television, and motion pictures) (''The Birdcage'')(''Ally McBeal''), Emmy winner * James Gandolfini, Class of 1983 — Actor (''The Sopranos''), Emmy winner * Bernard R. Goldberg, Class of 1967 — Television Journalist, Author ("Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News") * Eddie Jordan, Class of 1977 — NBA Player, Washington Wizards Head Coach * Alexi Lalas, Class of 1991 — Former U.S. Soccer National Team member, present President & General Manager of MetroStars in MLS * William Mastrosimone, Class of 1980 — Playwright, Golden Globe Award winner * Ozzie Nelson, Class of 1927 — Musician and Actor (''The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet'') * Paris Qualles, Class of 1974 — Screenwriter * Sheryl Lee Ralph — Actress * Paul Robeson, Class of 1919 — Athlete, Actor, Singer, Political Activist * Roy Scheider — Actor ("Jaws"), did not graduate * Aaron Stanford, Class of 2000 — Actor ("X2", "Tadpole") * Raymond Stark, Class of 1935 — Film Producer * David Stern, Class of 1963 — Commissioner of the National Basketball Association * Jeffrey Torborg, Class of 1963 — Baseball Player, Coach, Manager (New York Mets, Florida Marlins, and Sports Announcer. * Jim Valvano, Class of 1967 — Basketball Coach, ABC Sports Commentator * Sonny Werblin, Class of 1931 — Talent Agent, Sports Promoter, and Entrepreneur. * Susan J. Wicks, Class of 1988 — WNBA player ==Notable faculty== * Haim Brezis * Stephen Bronner — Professor of Political Science, Comparative Literature and German Studies * Avery Brooks — Associate Professor of Fine Arts * Vašek Chvátal * Michael Curtis * Ralph Ellison — Author of ''The Invisible Man'' * James Florio — ''former Governor of New Jersey (1989-1993)'' * Jerry Fodor — Professor of Philosophy and Cognitive Science * David S. Foglesong * Israel Gelfand * Ruth Bader Ginsburg * Lila Gleitman * Alvin Goldman — Professor of Philosophy * Leon Golub * Mason W. Gross * Andras Hajnal * Henryk Iwaniec — Professor of Mathematics * Jeffry Kahn — Professor of Mathematics * Temma Kaplan * Leonid Khachiyan — Professor of Mathematics * Ernest Lepore — Professor of Philosophy * Alan Leslie * David Levering Lewis — Professor of History, Winner of the Pulitzer Prize for Biography (2001) * Roy Lichtenstein * Colin McGinn — Professor of Philosophy * Alan Prince * Zenon Pylyshyn * Michael Saks — Professor of Mathematics, Winner of the G�del Prize (2004) * Saharon Shelah — Professor of Mathematics * Stephen Stich — Professor of Philosophy * Mario Szegedy — Professor of Mathematics * Endre Szemeredi — Professor of Mathematics * Lionel Tiger * Jay Tischfield * Robert Trivers — Professor of Anthropology * Wise Young * Doron Zeilberger — Professor of Mathematics, Winner of the Steele Prize for Seminal Contributions to Research (1998) ==Student organizations== A list of student organizations at Rutgers University, mostly endorsed by the university administration (some are not for various reasons), including links to their official websites when available. ===Other Listings=== * [http://studentinvolvement.rutgers.edu/studentorgs.html Rutgers College - Office Of Student Involvement] ===Student Government=== * [http://www.rcga.rutgers.edu Rutgers College Governing Association] * [http://rcpc.rutgers.edu/ Rutgers College Programming Council] * [http://www.lcga.rutgers.edu/ Livingston College Governing Association] * [http://www.dcga.rutgers.edu/ Douglass College Governing Association] * [http://aesop.rutgers.edu/%7Ecccouncil/ Cook College Council] * [http://gsa.rutgers.edu/ Graduate Student Association] * [http://coewww.rutgers.edu/egc/ Engineering Governing Council (College of Engineering)] * [http://pharmacy.rutgers.edu/pgc/ Pharmacy Governing Council (College of Pharmacy)] * [http://senate.rutgers.edu/ Rutgers University Senate] ===Media=== * [http://www.dailytargum.com The Daily Targum] — established 1869, one of the nation's oldest college newpspaers. * [http://www.rutgersreview.com Rutgers Review] * [http://www.themedium.net The Medium] — Rutgers University's controversial (and questionable) humor paper. * [http://www.rucenturion.com The Rutgers Centurion] - a conservative publication. * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~antho The Anthologist] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~bvcl Black Voice/Carta Latina] * Conversasian * Han Woori: Rutgers Korean Newsletter * [http://ktp.rutgers.edu Knight Time Productions] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~objet Objet d'Art] * Scarlet Letter * Screenwriters Community of Rutgers University ===Academic Organizations=== * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~ruat Academic Team] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~amsa American Medical Students Association] * [http://www.geocities.com/rutgersasa American Studies Association] * Association for Women in Communications * Association of Black Journalists * Association of Undergraduate Geneticists * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rumbb Biochemistry Club] * Biology Club * Chemistry Society * [http://www.rutgersconsulting.org Consulting Club] * [http://debate.rutgers.edu Debate Union] * Geological Society of Rutgers * Health Professions United * [http://www.hpagora.com HP Agora] * [http://www.ruitic.org Information Technology & Informatics Council] * James Dickson Carr Society * Korean Economic & Business Association * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rumm Master Minds] * Minority Association for Pre-Health Students * [http://www.runsbe.org Minority Engineering Educational Task] * [http://www.mbsa.rutgers.edu Minority Business Students Association] * [http://naba.rutgers.edu National Association of Black Accountants-New Brunswick Student Chapter] * Neuroscience Association * Philosophy Club * Pre-Dental Society * Pre-Law Society * Pre-Med Society * Psychological Society at Rutgers * Public Health Association * [http://scils.rutgers.edu/~prssa Public Relations Student Society of America] * Science Association (Rutgers) * Society for Professional Journalists * Society of Physics Students * [http://anthro.rutgers.edu/ugrad/anthroclub/index.html Undergraduate Anthropology Club] * [http://geography.rutgers.edu/organizations/rugs_web/index.shtml Undergraduate Geographic Society] * [http://usacs.rutgers.edu Undergraduate Student Alliance of Computer Scientists] ===Social and Political Organizations=== * [http://members.aol.com/rutg1000/ The 1000 Men and Women of Rutgers]–also known as Rutgers1000 or RU1000 (''defunct'') * Community Empowerment Project * American Civil Liberties Union * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~ruama American Muslim Affairs Committee] * [http://amnesty.rutgers.edu Amnesty International] * [http://www.ruair.org Association of International Relations] * [http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/~biglaru Bisexual, Gay and Lesbian Alliance of Rutgers University] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~cjam Culture Jam: Students Against Excessive Consumerism] * [http://www.rudems.org Democrats] * Global Pact * Green Party * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~ruham/ Humans Against Meat] * Israel Public Affairs Committee * Israeli Action Committee of RU * [http://www.masongross.org/ The Mason Gross Project] * Microfinance Initiative * National Association for the Advancement of Colored People * NJ Solidarity * Progressive Student Alliance * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rurepubs Rutgers College Republicans], the university's chapter of the College Republican National Committee. * [http://www.geocities.com/rusft Students for a Free Tibet] * Undergraduate Women's Studies Association ===Art, Music and Performance Organizations=== * [http://gleeclub.rutgers.edu Rutgers University Glee Club] - established in 1872, is one of the premier all-male college singing groups. * [http://www.ruraag.com Asian Acapella Group] * Bhangra * [http://www.casualharmony.com Casual Harmony] * [http://www.collegeaveplayers.com College Avenue Players] * [http://www.deeptreble.com Deep Treble (coed a capella)] * Film & Theatre Alliance * [http://firstlight.rutgers.edu First Light (a capella)] * [http://musicweb.rutgers.edu/ensembles/kirk_choir Kirkpatrick Choir] * [http://www.kolhalayla.rutgershillel.org Kol Halayla, Hillel Jewish Acapella Singers] * Liberated Gospel Choir * Musician's Guild * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~osporks Orphan Sporks] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rpdc Performing Dance Company] * Queen's Chorale * The Queen's Men (defunct) * [http://www.sapadance.com South Asian Performing Artists] * Tap Troupe (RU) * [http://voorheeschoir.rutgers.edu Voorhees Choir] ===Secret Societies=== * Brotherhood of the Golden Dagger is a secret society at Rutgers University, active from 1895–1948 * Order of the Bull's Blood is a secret society at Rutgers, established in 1834. * Sword and Serpent is a secret society at Rutgers, established in 1870. ===Fraternities and Sororities=== * Alpha Chi Omega * Alpha Epsilon Pi * [http://www.aklru.com Alpha Kappa Lambda] * Alpha Sigma Phi * Chi Phi * Chi Psi * Delta Kappa Epsilon * Delta Chi * Delta Gamma * Delta Phi (charter revoked/suspended) * Fiji * Gamma Phi Beta * Gamma Sigma * Kappa Sigma (charter revoked/suspended) * [http://www.geocities.com/kappazetapsi Kappa Zeta Psi] * [http://www.lambdathetaphi.org Lambda Theta Phi] * [http://www.omegaphichi.org Omega Phi Chi] * [http://www.njalpha.org Phi Delta Theta] * Phi Kappa Sigma * [http://www.pkt-ek.com Phi Kappa Tau] * Phi Sigma Kappa * Phi Sigma Sigma * Pi Kappa Alpha * Psi Upsilon * Sigma Alpha Mu * Sigma Beta Rho * [http://www.rusigmachi.com Sigma Chi] * Sigma Delta Tau * Sigma Kappa * Sigma Phi Epsilon * Sigma Pi * Squamish * Tau Kappa Epsilon * Theta Chi * [http://www.rutgerszbt.org/ Zeta Beta Tau] * Zeta Psi * Zeta Tau Alpha ===Community Service=== * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~deltarho Alpha Phi Omega] * Carousel Community Program * Children's AIDS Network * [http://www.geocities.com/rutgerscki Circle K] * [http://www.rucommunitycares.org Community Cares] * [http://www.rubigbuddy.com Community Outreach/Big Buddy Program] * Goya Project * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rchfh Habitat for Humanity] * Human Development Project * Jewish Community Service Organization * [http://www.rusmiling.org Operation Smile] * Reach Out And Read * Red Cross Club * RU 4 the Troops * [http://www.geocities.com/rutgersreaders Rutgers Readers] * [http://ruha.rutgers.edu Rutgers University Humanitarian Alliance (RUHA)] * Scarlet Listeners-Peer Support and Referral Center * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rutc Tzu-Ching Buddhist Compassion Relief Foundation] * Unite for Sight ===Honorary Organizations=== * Alpha Epsilon Delta * Cap and Skull is an honor society at Rutgers University, established in 1900. * [http://gk.rutgers.edu Golden Key International Honour Society] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~natsocs National Society of Collegiate Scholars] * Phi Alpha Delta Law Fraternity ===Leisure Clubs=== * BlitzFahren AutoKlub * [http://www.hoching.com/rmgl Multiplayer Gaming League] * [http://www.ruoc.rutgers.edu Outdoors Club] * [http://ruslug.rutgers.edu Student Linux User Group] ===Cultural Organizations=== * Alliance & Understanding * Armenian Club * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~ruasc Asian Student Council] * [http://www.ruair.net Association of Indians at Rutgers] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~raps Association of Philippine Students] * [http://bsa.rocks.it Bengali Students Association] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rubsu Black Student Union] * [http://all.at/rcc Cantonese Club] * [http://www.geocities.com/casaa1994/ Central and South American Alliance] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~dancetrp Chinese Dance Troupe] * [http://www.rutgerscso.com Chinese Student Organization] * Electronic Music Club * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rgc German Club] * Haitian Association at Rutgers University * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~hca Hellenic Cultural Association] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~ruisa International Students Association] * [http://www.rujca.com Japanese Cultural Association] * Jewish Student Union * [http://karaoke.rutgers.edu/ Karaoke Club] * [http://www.rkcg.org Korean Cultural Group] * Korean Students Association * Latin American Womyn's Organization * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~lsc2000 Latino Student Council] * Latinos for Academic and Social Excellence * [http://www.geocities.com/rulebanese Lebanese American Students of Rutgers University] * Pakistani Student Association * Paul Robeson Club * Persian Cultural Club * Polish Club * Portuguese Language Community * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rons4evr Rutgers Organization of Nippon Students] * Rutgers Union Estudiantil Puertorriquena * [http://sharingourlight.tripod.com Sharing Our Light] * Sociedad Estudiantil Dominicana * Society of Latin American Men * Taiwanese American Student Association * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rutsa Turkish Student Association] * TWESE, Association of Africans & Friends of Africa * Ukrainian Students Club * [http://www.rucuban.org Union of Cuban American Students] * United Black Council * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~vsa Vietnamese Student Association] * West Indian Student Organization ===Religious Organizations=== * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~bahai Bahai Campus Association of Rutgers University] * Bible Fellowship (Rutgers University) * Buddha's Light Dharma Joy Club * Campus Advance * [http://www.crusaderu.org Campus Crusade for Christ] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~catstu/ Catholic Students Association] * [http://www.chabad.rutgers.edu/ Chabad Jewish Student Organization] * [http://www.ruccf.info Chinese Christian Fellowship] * [http://www.cof.rutgers.edu Coptic Orthodox Fellowship] * Divine Youth Associates * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rufic Filipinos in Christ] * [http://www.rutgershillel.org Hillel] * Hindu Students Council * Indian Christian Fellowship * International Youth Fellowship * [http://www.ivmef.rutgers.edu Intervarsity Multi-Ethnic Christian Fellowship] * Joshua Cantonese Christian Fellowship * Korean Catholic Circle * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~muslims Islamic Society at Rutgers University] * [http://www.kcf.net Korean Christian Fellowship] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~mbread Manna Ministries] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rupagan RU Pagan Student Association] * [http://www.geocities.com/resurrection_ministries Resurrection Ministries] * [http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~rusikhs Rutgers University Sikhs] == External links == * [http://www.rutgers.edu/ www.rutgers.edu] — Rutgers University website * [http://www.dailytargum.com The Daily Targum] — the daily newspaper at Rutgers University, since 1869. * [http://www.scarletknights.com/ www.scarletknights.com] — Official Rutgers Athletics Website * [http://www.rutgersalumni.org/ Rutgers Alumni Association] — Established 1831, fourth oldest alumni group in the Nation. * [http://ruweb.rutgers.edu/timeline/ "Rutgers Through the Years" Timeline] — more on Rutgers history Rutgers University New Jersey Colonial 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==Images== If official university photographs are considered copyright violations, should that also extend to the scan of the drawing of Old Queen's? While the drawing itself might not be copyrighted, my understanding of copyright law is that the scan itself is. This would be analogous to copyrighting an edition of an uncopyrighted text. I might be wrong but it seems as if the drawing is taken from the Rutgers Timeline website, which would garner the same protection as would an original photograph. —User:csswasey Tue Nov 23 2004 7:39 AM * The difference being I first got permission in writing to use the Old Queens drawing. You, in your instance, did not. —User:ExplorerCDT 04:53, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC) == 1174 or 1774? == It admitted its first students in 1771 and granted its first degree in 1174. How is this possible? --User:Cprompt The 1174 has to be a typo. I believe it was 1774 didn't it go out of business AGAIN in the 1930s and was then bought by the state of New Jersey? If yes, that should be part of the article as well... Hwarwick 7/6/04 (class of 81!) : No, it did not. --User:ExplorerCDT 11:17, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC) : Absolutely not. There is no truth to that, in any way what-so-ever. Rutgers entered into a compact to become the state university with the state of New Jersey in 1956, but even now the Trustees still "own" the school, its land, and any buildings or other property in existence before 1956. —User:csswasey 16 November 2004 :: As a followup, the relationship between Rutgers and New Jersey can be thought of as one in which the Trustees own the school and the Governors administrate it as the state university. It's more complicated than that since the Trustees really only legally control everything in existence before 1956, but this is the general gist of things. Legally, it is possible for either party to withdraw from the compact, per the Rutgers Act. Such an eventuality, the chances of which are infinitesimally small, would be nightmarish due to the present-day patchwork of state and trustee owned buildings and property. —User:csswasey 01:14, 17 November 2004 == Redundancy? == How many times does this article have to say that the school was chartered as Queen's College in 1766? Or that the institution was affiliated with the Dutch Reformed Church? Once is enough. It's not necessary to include those facts both in the introduction and in the history section. User:Darkcore 19:28, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) * I give you the DRC repeat. I didn't see where you moved it last week. However, if you can't count, the point of it being established as Queen's College in 1766 is mentioned twice, once in the intro, and in the history section. If you're going to say "eighth oldest institution of higher learning" you qualify that remark. There's nothing wrong with restating this when explaining the history in depth. Is twice too much? Certainly not. Three times? Perhaps. But there isn't a third mention. Methinks you doth protest too much! --User:ExplorerCDT 19:46, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) ==Football== I have put the image of the 1882 team in to the Football#Canadian and American football but there is an inconsistency between what is said there: :The first match generally said to have occurred under English FA (soccer) rules in the USA was a game between Princeton University and Rutgers University in 1869. The rivalry between the two colleges has persisted ever since and many people consider this to be the first US college football game. However, the rules under which they played have changed substantially since 1869. In fact, at the time, most United States university teams used rules which were closer to the soccer rules, although this was soon to change. And Rutgers University#Rutgers: History and tradition which says: :On November 6, 1869, Rutgers became the "Birthplace of College Football" when it defeated Princeton, six "runs" to four, in the first intercollegiate football game ever played (the site, then a field, is now occupied by the College Avenue Gymnasium). Instead of wearing uniforms, the players stripped off their hats, coats, and vests and bound their suspenders around the waistbands of their trousers. For headgear, the Rutgers team wound their scarlet scarves into turbans atop their heads. The rules, more resembling those of English rugby than what developed into American football, included limiting each team to 25 men on the field at once and banning throwing or running with the ball. Rutgers got Columbia University started in the grid sport the following season and in a few years most of the East's colleges and universities were represented on the gridiron. The Princeton University page is of no help it dismisses the game in one sentence: ''In 1869 Princeton competed with Rutgers in the first ever intercollegiate football game, losing 6 to 4.'' Is it because they lost? Just as Rutgers does for the first baseball match and do the same thing. ;-) If this page is correct and it was a closer to rugby the link to rugby needs changing to rugby football. The clause "banning throwing or running with the ball" is interesting because that is the fundemental diffrence between rugby and soccer and was the cause of the schism. The first FA rules had banned running with the ball but a player could make a fair catch and claim a mark and if a player of touched the ball behind the opponents' goal line, his side was entitled to a free kick at the goal 15 yards from the goal line. The image is interesting because thre are 12 players and the ball seems to be a soccer ball. See also Talk:Football#Rutgers Vs. Princeton, 1869 --User:Philip Baird Shearer 11:41, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC) : In looking at the photo, I don't see a ball. When I wrote the Rutgers page, my writing was heavily influenced on publications, books, and webpages which were either sponsored by Rutgers, or written by Rutgers Professors (i.e. William Demarest, Richard McCormick). None of those sources says anything remotely close to comparing the first intercollegiate football game with "soccer." In fact, every source made repeated references to its similarity to "rugby." ::Chap standing three from the left appears to have his right arm resting on a ball which is resting on the arm of an armchair. But it may be something else do you have access to a larger picture? User:Philip Baird Shearer : If it is good enough for Rutgers to draw the line at a comparison with "rugby", it is good enough for the article, (q.v. [http://www.scarletknights.com/football/history/first_game.htm]). Given they were the host of the first college football game, their interpretation is as close to the Gospel truth as far as I'm concerned. The only reason for the debate was a presumptious soccer-frenzied maniac who tried to impose his opinion, unsupported by any research, on the article. : The reason the Rutgers baseball game with Princeton in 1862 gets one line or so, is because there isn't much written or available on it. Secondly, Princeton's wiki entry doesn't say much about athletics, so I wouldn't be surprised that they would only give it one line. :: I even put in a smiley because I know that many Americans have difficulty with a British sense of humour! User:Philip Baird Shearer : Besides, there are not that many who have a clear memory of a Princeton-Rutgers gridiron match up, as the last one happened in 1980.--User:ExplorerCDT 00:21, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC) That is a very good source. Thank you. Please have a look at History of rugby union you will see that the crucial point about the Rugby game "is a fine disregard for the rules as played in his time [at rugby school], first took the ball in his arms and ran with it". To be a descendent of the Rugby game, running with the ball in hand is the key. It seems from the description on this page and the description of the game's rules on the interesting page link you have provided that the game "banning throwing or running with the ball" and "The ball could be advanced only by kicking or batting it with the feet, hands, heads or sides." That would defiantly put it on the dribbling game (or a Pel� called it The Beautiful Game) side of the schism because there is no running with the ball in hand. But I think that a good case can be made for saying that it was neither. That it was an alternative game of football. Which before the FA and the RFU was the norm in the UK as well. The Football page goes into the history of diffrent types of games in some detail. User:Philip Baird Shearer 02:24, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC) * Well, if it involves "dribbling" we might as well say it resembles Basketball. ;-) --User:ExplorerCDT 02:38, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC) ::Ah denial...more than a river ;-) The bloke in the picture ''is'' holding a round ball. And even the Rutgers football homepage (cited above) says: "Leggett, captain of the Rutgers team ... suggested that rules for the contest be adopted from those of the London Football Association. Leggett's proposal was accepted by Captain William Gunmere of Princeton." Hello?!?! The "London Football Association" invented soccer. Also, it is pretty clear from my research that the rugby-type games were not big in the US until the late 1870s, and got rolling after the game between McGill and Harvard in 1874. The Rutgers-Princeton game was the start of US college football, but not as we now know it.... User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 13:52, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC) Ah! I'd missed that! The "London Football Association" would seem to be a clincher. Did the FA rules OF 1869 allow for 25 men a side? The other stuff about "''The ball could be advanced only by kicking or batting it with the feet, hands, heads or sides." would seem to be consistent with the Early FA rules of 1863, as stated on the Football page "'' a player could make a fair catch and claim a mark and if a player of touched the ball behind the opponents' goal line, his side was entitled to a free kick at the goal 15 yards from the goal line."User:Philip Baird Shearer 15:22, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC) : If Rutgers officially refers to it as derived from "rugby" and the historical resources in their libraries and archives point to it as such (which I have reviewed), it won't be changed, and I will continue to revert any attempts to do so until the powers that be (at Rutgers) officially say otherwise. --User:ExplorerCDT 11:15, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC) ::Why is Rutgers supposed to be the only authority on Rutgers? We might as well just refer people to official web pages and do away with Wikipedia articles altogether. ::And you are only presenting part of what "Rutgers" says, namely that the rules were derived from rugby. As discussed above the Rutgers football site contradicts itself by also saying that the rules came from the English Football Association, which invented soccer. ::As a compromise can I suggest that no reference to rugby ''or'' soccer is made in the article? User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 14:50, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC) Should we take that as a "no"? i think it's safe to say that at least three Wikipedians think the reference to rugby should be qualified and soccer should also be mentioned. So does "Princeton", if the ''The Daily Princetonian'' is anything to go by: "What seems like the most elementary part of the game to many observers � carrying the ball � did not even exist. The oblong ball had to be moved down the field by batting at it, kicking it, or any other means one could muster. It is often described as having "rugby-like" rules, but the game was more like soccer. "In order to score a goal, the ball had to be forced into a goal that was very similar to a modern soccer goal, crossbar and all. Rutgers was able to accomplish the feat six times on the day, while Princeton could only score four goals."[http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2004/09/15/sports/10704.shtml Thad Hartmann, Wednesday, September 15, 2004, "Football is not quite the same after 135 years" ] Will you now agree that the reference to "rugby" should be qualified and soccer should also be mentioned? User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 04:29, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC) ===Poll on football content=== Under the dispute resolution process specified at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution, I am proposing a poll, advertised at Wikipedia:Current_surveys, on the description of the 1869 football game in this article. Under the guidelines of the dispute resolution process, I am now asking how the poll should be conducted: What questions should be asked?
What will the possible answers be?
Where a question has three or more possible answers, are people allowed to select more than one answer?
When is the deadline?
How will the survey be totalled?
Will there be a summary of arguments, or a series of mini-essays, or some other way to inform users prior to the survey?
User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 23:42, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC) : You are so going to regret going through with such a proposal. I'll take your challenge because I know I can prove you wrong (substantive primary evidence that you will compel you to change your precious football article (something I've not really cared about much anyway)). When you don't win will you finally give it up? : Here is my counter to your challenge. : Your questions: : ''1.) What questions should be asked?'' ::: Just one: '''"Was the game that gave birth to College Football played by Rutgers and Princeton (then the ''College of New Jersey'') on 6 November 1869 more closely related to rugby, soccer, a combination of both, or some other sport entirely?"''' ::::OK. : ''2.) What will the possible answers be?'' ::: Answers: A.) Rugby, B.) Soccer, or C.) A combination of the two or D.) some other sport entirely. ::::OK. : ''3.) Where a question has three or more possible answers, are people allowed to select more than one answer?'' ::: No. A combinatory answer is provided in option C. ::::OK. : ''4.) When is the deadline?'' ::: Make it one week (7 days) of discussion, like discussion for those who request administration, etc. See below, Question 6. ::::How about one week from 00:00 UTC Monday November 22? : ''5.) How will the survey be totalled?'' ::: How do you recommend? Just a simple adding up of who falls on which side. ::::Whichever one of the options gets a simple majority. In the event of a tie, a run-off, using the same method. : ''6.) Will there be a summary of arguments, or a series of mini-essays, or some other way to inform users prior to the survey?'' ::: Forensic debate. We will agree on a date to begin the survey, before that debate we will research and write our arguments in the form of an essay (no more than 2000 words—footnoting not counting against that total). Once the day of the "survey", we will post our essays. After a full 24 hours, you and I post one, up-to-800-word rebuttal only to the materials contested, avoiding repetious restatement of the argument, in each other's essays. Then, let the survey participants decide the question based on the essays, without commentary. ::::OK; 300w-500w should be more than enough for me on both occasions, but 2000w is fine if you want to do that. The "essay" to be posted by 00:00 UTC, Saturday November 27; the rebuttals by 00:00 UTC Monday November 29. : After this, we should bury the hatchet, accept the result. No need to take this any further. You've taken it too far already. —User:ExplorerCDT 00:19, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC) ::I will never regret the truth being revealed, even if I am proved wrong :-) If you have "substantive primary research" which shows that it was the rules of Rugby School that the 1869 game was based on, and ''not'' the Football Association, I think you should give a ''pr�cis'' — fully referenced — of that now and save yourself future trouble. Please bear in mind that — regardless of what is claimed, Rugby School's version of football, which was the only kind of "rugby" in 1869 — allowed full handling of the ball and running while carrying it, something which does not seem to have been the case in the Rutgers v. Princeton game. User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 10:23, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC) My answers to your suggestions regarding the poll are above.User:Grant65 User talk: Grant65 05:05, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC) Can we do it a week after that? If you're American, you'll recognize that this coming week is Thanksgiving. Given the amount of travel I have, I wouldn't be able to get anything done by then. My Thanksgiving week is packed, especially since I have a 3-day work week to pack with five-days work. However, the week after, works fine, Perhaps starting December 3rd with posting of essays? --User:ExplorerCDT 05:27, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC) :How about 23:59 UTC Friday December 3 for the inital posting and 23:59 UTC Sunday December 5 for the rebuttal? Also, would you mind if we put a notice in the article itself to say that the passage is disputed, and mentioning this page? User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 07:50, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC) Well, we are a little late, but better late than never. A basic argument by me is at Rutgers University: debate on football content. I've found some interesting details in the course of researching it. I'll give ExplorerCDT a week to respond. User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 14:55, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC) == 1993 WTC bombing == In the book "The New Jackals," among other written and primary sources, I have heard of only a Nidal Ayyad as the only suspected terrorist in the 1993 WTC plot that had a background with Rutgers. Ramzi Yousef, according to the written works that I've seen, was never a student at Rutgers. -written by a current Rutgers student * Ramzi Yousef was enrolled in two classes, there are alumni and faculty who remembered that experience, and there was a brief article detailing such in the alumni magazine in the mid-1990s. I had forgotten Ayyad when compiling the alumni section of the article. And you are just a student now, not a purported expert as you mentioned in your recent edits. If you were familiar with reviews of the book, many "experts" actually detracted Simon Reeve's work as being inadequately researched. * Further, I'd encourage you to write an article on Nidal Ayyad as there is none currently. I orginally made the edit and this post above anonymously. Now, I have registered to continue the discussion. The FBI believes that Yousef's entry to the United States on 1 September 1992 was his first experience on American soil; however, there have been unconfirmed reports submitted to the Diplomatic Security Service that Yousef may have traveled to the United States before then. I believe that it is very unlikely, given the fact that Yousef carried out the WTC bombing on 26 Feb 1993, that he would have bothered to enroll in classes at Rutgers (which probably would have started in the first few days of September). Moreoever, Yousef is known to have been trained in explosives at camps in Afghanistan and did pursue higher education in the UK; he also arranged for bomb making manuals to be sent to him in the United States. I am fairly sure that someone like Yousef woudl not benefit much from a few classes at Rutgers. I too have spoken to a faculty member, but only about Ayyad; no mention was made of Yousef. This could be an honest mistake of the faculty members or alumni magazine reporters which you had mentioned. You may know that books on terrorism are hotly debated as many sources are confidential personal interviews; however, I know of counter-terrorism officials from the NY/NJ metro area who reference this work. As for my claiming to have been an expert- I cannot exactly recall the wording that I had used, but if I did use such words it was clearly an exaggeration of my research interests and I apologize for misrepresenting myself. I am very interested in your sources, and I would appreicate it if you could e-mail me personally with some further information. Thank you for your response.

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