'''Please don't edit this page; leave me messages on my User talk:RoySmith page instead''' I've edited a few pages on Wikipedia. Mostly I've been working on articles related to New York, especially the islands and waterways of the eastern Bronx. Lately, I've also been frequenting Wikipedia:Votes for deletion a lot and seem to be turning into quite the Delete monger. ==Coming out of the closet== Ok, I know you've all been picking up on the little hints, but have been too polite to say anything. Well, I can't hide it any more. It's really for the best if I admit to the world what I am, and if some people can't handle it, that's their problem. At first, I thought it was just innocent curiosity, but after a while I realized that I enjoyed it. No, that's not right; enjoy is too shallow a word. It just felt right. It felt natural. It felt like I was being who I was meant to be. I didn't need to be ashamed of it. I realize I may be different from most folks, but I'm comfortable with that. And in recognition of that new-found understanding of who I am, I've decided to join the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Deletionist_Wikipedians Association of Deletionist Wikipedians]. There. I've said it. I feel better now.
== Place Names== I disagree strongly with your renaming of the islands in Long Island Sound in the comma style. See Talk:City Island, New York. -- User:Decumanus 17:57, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC) == Lighthouse Island == Thanks for pointing that out to me. You're quite correct, and I will change my vote. --User:L33tminion | User talk:L33tminion 05:01, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC) == Votes for deletion O'Keefe == Hi Roy, you'll notice on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Kenneth O'Keefe my comment that it ''was'' a User:Oliver Pereira who wrote that statement [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kenneth_O%27Keefe&diff=1653756&oldid=1652707], and that such a statement is easily verifiable on the internet. I presume this satisfies you. --User:Christiaan 09:30, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) Hi Christian. Thanks for the note. Yes, I did notice your comment on the VfD page. It's still my opinion that the page promotes a POV. Your user page says you helped organize the action with Ken, and you're clearly pushing to have the page kept, so it would appear that not only does it promote a POV, but it promotes your POV. I'm comfortable with my delete vote. --User:RoySmith 11:55, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) :It does seem odd that you are comfortable with a decision based on a reason that is now debunked. You may or may not be aware that the page on Ken O'Keefe cannot be my POV because I've never contributed to it. --User:Christiaan 13:41, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==False Friend== What is wrong with having a second definition to the phrase "False Friend"??? This is real and not nonsense! The only definition for that is about False Cognates in languages! Do you want me to put you in touch with fellow City Islanders or Bronxites who believe in this other definition? User:Supercool Dude 03:00, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) Roy, You should talk! You have Vandalised an number of my articles you Hypocrite! You are just as obnoxious as many other creepy City Islanders! I created a article called Funnybone and someone destroyed it and redirected it! My Father says that nasty people like you are False Friends and you are to be ignored! You are a Vicious and Malicious person! Goodbye! User:Supercool Dude 16:47, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC) Dear Roy, I am quitting Wikipedia for good. I talked to Jimmy and he told me about the policy here about Vandalism and deletion and I decided that writing articles that are debased by others is a waste of time. There is absolutely no point in starting an article if others are allowed to change the meaning of that article. So many articles of mine were deleted that it is a pointless thing to do. I will start my own Internet Encyclopedia that will not be subject to this bullshit. User:Supercool Dude 11:36, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC) ---- ::My apologies for barging into the middle of your conversation, but I wanted to make two comments apropos to the above paragraph. First, Safari supports tabbed browsing too (ObMacHype). Second, I think it would be cool if the VfD template, in addition to having a link to the article's VfD discussion section, also had a link to go directly to editing that section. It would save one intermediate page load. I'm not sure where the right place is to make that suggestion, but I figured you might know. --User:RoySmith 00:35, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC) (PS, if you reply here, I'll see it). :::Barging is appreciated, I do it frequently to others and if you do it too I can claim it's common practice ;-). Yes, there are quite a few browsers that do tabbed browsing (there's even programs that make IE do it I gather). I just chose ones that had the best chance of being appropriate for Fledgeling (I don't know what OS he runs). The VfD suggestion does sound handy for us nominators, though I'm not sure if it's worth the extra clutter on the template for all those people who just read it. The appropriate place for discussing this would be Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion (or Template talk:vfd, but nobody ever goes there so you'll get a much smaller audience. --User:fvw*">User talk:Fvw 00:49, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC) == Great Googly Moogly == Hi. After you posted the VfD for Great Googly Moogly, I really got into it and did a fair amount of research and editing work. I agree that in its original state it wasn't worth keeping, but it's a completely different article now. Would you take another look at it and see if you think it's worth keeping in its current state? --User:RoySmith 18:55, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC) :Pfft, it took some heavy pondering, but I've landed on the keep side of the line, though only by a hairs breadth. May I suggset you move the first line/paragraph down to the end though? After all, it is no longer the main topic of the article. --User:fvw*">User talk:Fvw 23:27, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC) ::Thanks. I agree about the first paragraph; I'll take care of that now. --User:RoySmith 01:07, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==Bell Ringing Swans== Dear Roy, Here is my letter to Wells England. Hello, I am doing research for an encyclopedia to find out if there really are Mute Swans that ring bells for food. Some say that the Swans there do not ring the bells any more. Do the Swans there still ring bells for food? Sincerely Supercool Dude *********************************** Dear Supercool Dude, Yes they certainly do - one pair. Check our website - www.bishopspalacewells.co.uk http://www.bishopspalacewells.co.uk/wildlife.asp - info@bishopspalacewells.co.uk Marian Shaw Please email her if you want the truth or go see them for yourself! User:Supercool Dude 15:41, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC) Hi Dude, I'm glad to see that you've decided to come back to Wikipedia, and thanks for doing the research. You should update Talk:The Bell Ringing Mute Swans with your new information. --User:RoySmith 16:43, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==Getalis' Height Project== Many thanks for your encouraging words. After some soul searching, I came to the conclusion that the vast majority of whiners currently attempting to kill my height project aren't after me personally. They're just afraid of new ideas that push the bill. Why a simple series of articles defining certain heights, cataloguing the percentile standards of said heights, and providing a brief list of (often surprising!) well-known people of selected statures offends them so much is something I will never, ever comprehend. To be sure, you'd never find that sort of thing in a paper-bound encyclopedia, but neither then would you find entries on ROM hacking or 2004. Regarding your formatting suggestion, I just can't win! I originally just used '''X'X", since I figured that would be one of the most common ways someone would search for a specific height. A compatriot suggested the X ft X in (X.XX m)''' format, which I felt looked more professional. So, I soon adapted that standard for every page other than 6' 2\". In your estimation, if I were to do a special heights page, what would be an acceptable starting threshold? 6'6"? 6'7"? Right around there is the 2-meter mark, which has come up a few times among the more cogent replies on my nine Vfd pages. Cheers, and thanks again for your support! User:Getalis 01:51, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC) ==Re: Woo?== You're right. Wu or Woo is a transcription based on Mandarin language. Surnames in Hong Kong and transcripted based on Cantonese language. Wu or Woo in Hong Kong do not correspond to the same surnames in Chinese characters as Wu as transcripted from Mandarin. — User:InstantnoodUser_talk:Instantnood 15:53, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC) :Welcome. :-D Should I put up a link to list of common Chinese surnames? — User:InstantnoodUser_talk:Instantnood 18:58, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC) ==That fantastic photo== That photo you took of Central Park with the Gates from 2000ft. above is just so great. Would you consider putting it or one like it on the New York City page too? I think it would be a good addition. User:Moncrief 01:35, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) I'd be honored to have it on the New York City page. Feel free to do so (I haven't quite figured out how to work with images on wiki). It could probably use some touching up too, to enhance contrast, but I'm really not much of a photoshop wizard. --User:RoySmith 01:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::I'll put it there. It's better than nearly everything on there now, and it gives such a sweeping and clear view of the park/the UES/the UWS/ and into midtown. User:Moncrief 06:19, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) ::Okay. I added it to the NYC page after cropping it a bit (though I didn't want to crop it so much that the Met would disappear) and uploading it. If you don't like the caption, the placement or anything else - obviously, please feel free to change it! I gave you credit on the page where I uploaded it. If I took to much liberty in cropping that bit of window off, I will delete it. (I just reread above and realized you didn't really give me explicit permission to re-upload it, so honestly, please tell me if you don't like the new crop - I just thought a little less of the window would be good, but I can definitely delete and you can use your version!) Thanks. User:Moncrief 06:58, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) That's cool. The window was indeed badly placed, and your crop helped. What really annoys me about the shot was that it was a hazy day, and the colors came out a bit muddy, especially down at the south end of the park. I doubt there's much that can be done to fix that in post-processing, but maybe some photoshop genius out there knows how to do it better than I do? --User:RoySmith 13:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) == NYC "unacceptable w/o justification" edit summary == The user Funnyhat had made a series of edits, none of which had an edit summary. The first few were just style fixes, but the last few changed the substance of the article in ways that should have been explained in an edit summary, but weren't. I reverted those last few. (Sorry, the 'subsequent' is confusing, I should have said "funnyhat's edits after this need justification") best, User:JosephBarillari (User_talk:JosephBarillari) 15:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Good editing == Thanks for your work on Anne Hutchinson. I appreciate it. User:Logophile 22:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Don't Panic == How ironic that this would be the user to put something in about a J/24 in the "DON'T PANIC" (Don't panic) article. Anyway, you should know that J/24's aren't notable unless they're from Santa Barbara. --User:Theaterfreak64 23:48, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC) :Yeah, I know. It was blatent vanity :-) --User:RoySmith 00:11, 1 May 2005 (UTC) :Oh, and sorry I posted that on your userpage. I don't know if I qualify as a "newbie" (been on Wikipedia since December 2004), but I'm not too familiar with userpages; I forgot. --User:Theaterfreak64 02:51, May 1, 2005 (UTC) :No biggie, don't worry about it. Do you also have a J/24? In Santa Barbara, perhaps? --User:RoySmith 11:51, 1 May 2005 (UTC) ::Hah, I WISH. I do live in Santa Barbara (Goleta, actually). I'm certified by the ASA in basic keelboat sailing, but I hardly ever get out on the water. --User:Theaterfreak64 02:51, May 6, 2005 (UTC) ==The Devil's Belt== You are probably correct that this article should be merged with Long Island Sound. As my interest in the article was only in sorting, I will let you have the honors. --''User: Allen3'' User talk:Allen3 18:07, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC) == Bedford Park (Neighborhood) == Just trying to find some folks involved in Bronx-related pages, that I've submitted an article on the neighborhood of Bedford_Park%2C_Bronx%2C_New_York. This happens to be my first article (though I've done some edits here and there on started ones), so I'm just curious if there's anything that a more experienced eye could notice there.--User:Dtasripin 05:30, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
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'''Please don't edit this page; leave me messages on my User talk:RoySmith page instead''' I've edited a few pages on Wikipedia. Mostly I've been working on articles related to New York, especially the islands and waterways of the eastern Bronx. Lately, I've also been frequenting Wikipedia:Votes for deletion a lot and seem to be turning into quite the Delete monger. ==Coming out of the closet== Ok, I know you've all been picking up on the little hints, but have been too polite to say anything. Well, I can't hide it any more. It's really for the best if I admit to the world what I am, and if some people can't handle it, that's their problem. At first, I thought it was just innocent curiosity, but after a while I realized that I enjoyed it. No, that's not right; enjoy is too shallow a word. It just felt right. It felt natural. It felt like I was being who I was meant to be. I didn't need to be ashamed of it. I realize I may be different from most folks, but I'm comfortable with that. And in recognition of that new-found understanding of who I am, I've decided to join the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Deletionist_Wikipedians Association of Deletionist Wikipedians]. There. I've said it. I feel better now.
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== Place Names== I disagree strongly with your renaming of the islands in Long Island Sound in the comma style. See Talk:City Island, New York. -- User:Decumanus 17:57, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC) == Lighthouse Island == Thanks for pointing that out to me. You're quite correct, and I will change my vote. --User:L33tminion | User talk:L33tminion 05:01, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC) == Votes for deletion O'Keefe == Hi Roy, you'll notice on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Kenneth O'Keefe my comment that it ''was'' a User:Oliver Pereira who wrote that statement [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kenneth_O%27Keefe&diff=1653756&oldid=1652707], and that such a statement is easily verifiable on the internet. I presume this satisfies you. --User:Christiaan 09:30, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) Hi Christian. Thanks for the note. Yes, I did notice your comment on the VfD page. It's still my opinion that the page promotes a POV. Your user page says you helped organize the action with Ken, and you're clearly pushing to have the page kept, so it would appear that not only does it promote a POV, but it promotes your POV. I'm comfortable with my delete vote. --User:RoySmith 11:55, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) :It does seem odd that you are comfortable with a decision based on a reason that is now debunked. You may or may not be aware that the page on Ken O'Keefe cannot be my POV because I've never contributed to it. --User:Christiaan 13:41, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==False Friend== What is wrong with having a second definition to the phrase "False Friend"??? This is real and not nonsense! The only definition for that is about False Cognates in languages! Do you want me to put you in touch with fellow City Islanders or Bronxites who believe in this other definition? User:Supercool Dude 03:00, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) Roy, You should talk! You have Vandalised an number of my articles you Hypocrite! You are just as obnoxious as many other creepy City Islanders! I created a article called Funnybone and someone destroyed it and redirected it! My Father says that nasty people like you are False Friends and you are to be ignored! You are a Vicious and Malicious person! Goodbye! User:Supercool Dude 16:47, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC) Dear Roy, I am quitting Wikipedia for good. I talked to Jimmy and he told me about the policy here about Vandalism and deletion and I decided that writing articles that are debased by others is a waste of time. There is absolutely no point in starting an article if others are allowed to change the meaning of that article. So many articles of mine were deleted that it is a pointless thing to do. I will start my own Internet Encyclopedia that will not be subject to this bullshit. User:Supercool Dude 11:36, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC) ---- ::My apologies for barging into the middle of your conversation, but I wanted to make two comments apropos to the above paragraph. First, Safari supports tabbed browsing too (ObMacHype). Second, I think it would be cool if the VfD template, in addition to having a link to the article's VfD discussion section, also had a link to go directly to editing that section. It would save one intermediate page load. I'm not sure where the right place is to make that suggestion, but I figured you might know. --User:RoySmith 00:35, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC) (PS, if you reply here, I'll see it). :::Barging is appreciated, I do it frequently to others and if you do it too I can claim it's common practice ;-). Yes, there are quite a few browsers that do tabbed browsing (there's even programs that make IE do it I gather). I just chose ones that had the best chance of being appropriate for Fledgeling (I don't know what OS he runs). The VfD suggestion does sound handy for us nominators, though I'm not sure if it's worth the extra clutter on the template for all those people who just read it. The appropriate place for discussing this would be Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion (or Template talk:vfd, but nobody ever goes there so you'll get a much smaller audience. --User:fvw*">User talk:Fvw 00:49, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC) == Great Googly Moogly == Hi. After you posted the VfD for Great Googly Moogly, I really got into it and did a fair amount of research and editing work. I agree that in its original state it wasn't worth keeping, but it's a completely different article now. Would you take another look at it and see if you think it's worth keeping in its current state? --User:RoySmith 18:55, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC) :Pfft, it took some heavy pondering, but I've landed on the keep side of the line, though only by a hairs breadth. May I suggset you move the first line/paragraph down to the end though? After all, it is no longer the main topic of the article. --User:fvw*">User talk:Fvw 23:27, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC) ::Thanks. I agree about the first paragraph; I'll take care of that now. --User:RoySmith 01:07, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==Bell Ringing Swans== Dear Roy, Here is my letter to Wells England. Hello, I am doing research for an encyclopedia to find out if there really are Mute Swans that ring bells for food. Some say that the Swans there do not ring the bells any more. Do the Swans there still ring bells for food? Sincerely Supercool Dude *********************************** Dear Supercool Dude, Yes they certainly do - one pair. Check our website - www.bishopspalacewells.co.uk http://www.bishopspalacewells.co.uk/wildlife.asp - info@bishopspalacewells.co.uk Marian Shaw Please email her if you want the truth or go see them for yourself! User:Supercool Dude 15:41, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC) Hi Dude, I'm glad to see that you've decided to come back to Wikipedia, and thanks for doing the research. You should update Talk:The Bell Ringing Mute Swans with your new information. --User:RoySmith 16:43, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==Getalis' Height Project== Many thanks for your encouraging words. After some soul searching, I came to the conclusion that the vast majority of whiners currently attempting to kill my height project aren't after me personally. They're just afraid of new ideas that push the bill. Why a simple series of articles defining certain heights, cataloguing the percentile standards of said heights, and providing a brief list of (often surprising!) well-known people of selected statures offends them so much is something I will never, ever comprehend. To be sure, you'd never find that sort of thing in a paper-bound encyclopedia, but neither then would you find entries on ROM hacking or 2004. Regarding your formatting suggestion, I just can't win! I originally just used '''X'X", since I figured that would be one of the most common ways someone would search for a specific height. A compatriot suggested the X ft X in (X.XX m)''' format, which I felt looked more professional. So, I soon adapted that standard for every page other than 6' 2\". In your estimation, if I were to do a special heights page, what would be an acceptable starting threshold? 6'6"? 6'7"? Right around there is the 2-meter mark, which has come up a few times among the more cogent replies on my nine Vfd pages. Cheers, and thanks again for your support! User:Getalis 01:51, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC) ==Re: Woo?== You're right. Wu or Woo is a transcription based on Mandarin language. Surnames in Hong Kong and transcripted based on Cantonese language. Wu or Woo in Hong Kong do not correspond to the same surnames in Chinese characters as Wu as transcripted from Mandarin. — User:InstantnoodUser_talk:Instantnood 15:53, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC) :Welcome. :-D Should I put up a link to list of common Chinese surnames? — User:InstantnoodUser_talk:Instantnood 18:58, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC) ==That fantastic photo== That photo you took of Central Park with the Gates from 2000ft. above is just so great. Would you consider putting it or one like it on the New York City page too? I think it would be a good addition. User:Moncrief 01:35, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) I'd be honored to have it on the New York City page. Feel free to do so (I haven't quite figured out how to work with images on wiki). It could probably use some touching up too, to enhance contrast, but I'm really not much of a photoshop wizard. --User:RoySmith 01:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::I'll put it there. It's better than nearly everything on there now, and it gives such a sweeping and clear view of the park/the UES/the UWS/ and into midtown. User:Moncrief 06:19, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) ::Okay. I added it to the NYC page after cropping it a bit (though I didn't want to crop it so much that the Met would disappear) and uploading it. If you don't like the caption, the placement or anything else - obviously, please feel free to change it! I gave you credit on the page where I uploaded it. If I took to much liberty in cropping that bit of window off, I will delete it. (I just reread above and realized you didn't really give me explicit permission to re-upload it, so honestly, please tell me if you don't like the new crop - I just thought a little less of the window would be good, but I can definitely delete and you can use your version!) Thanks. User:Moncrief 06:58, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC) That's cool. The window was indeed badly placed, and your crop helped. What really annoys me about the shot was that it was a hazy day, and the colors came out a bit muddy, especially down at the south end of the park. I doubt there's much that can be done to fix that in post-processing, but maybe some photoshop genius out there knows how to do it better than I do? --User:RoySmith 13:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) == NYC "unacceptable w/o justification" edit summary == The user Funnyhat had made a series of edits, none of which had an edit summary. The first few were just style fixes, but the last few changed the substance of the article in ways that should have been explained in an edit summary, but weren't. I reverted those last few. (Sorry, the 'subsequent' is confusing, I should have said "funnyhat's edits after this need justification") best, User:JosephBarillari (User_talk:JosephBarillari) 15:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Good editing == Thanks for your work on Anne Hutchinson. I appreciate it. User:Logophile 22:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Don't Panic == How ironic that this would be the user to put something in about a J/24 in the "DON'T PANIC" (Don't panic) article. Anyway, you should know that J/24's aren't notable unless they're from Santa Barbara. --User:Theaterfreak64 23:48, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC) :Yeah, I know. It was blatent vanity :-) --User:RoySmith 00:11, 1 May 2005 (UTC) :Oh, and sorry I posted that on your userpage. I don't know if I qualify as a "newbie" (been on Wikipedia since December 2004), but I'm not too familiar with userpages; I forgot. --User:Theaterfreak64 02:51, May 1, 2005 (UTC) :No biggie, don't worry about it. Do you also have a J/24? In Santa Barbara, perhaps? --User:RoySmith 11:51, 1 May 2005 (UTC) ::Hah, I WISH. I do live in Santa Barbara (Goleta, actually). I'm certified by the ASA in basic keelboat sailing, but I hardly ever get out on the water. --User:Theaterfreak64 02:51, May 6, 2005 (UTC) ==The Devil's Belt== You are probably correct that this article should be merged with Long Island Sound. As my interest in the article was only in sorting, I will let you have the honors. --''User: Allen3'' User talk:Allen3 18:07, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC) == Bedford Park (Neighborhood) == Just trying to find some folks involved in Bronx-related pages, that I've submitted an article on the neighborhood of Bedford_Park%2C_Bronx%2C_New_York. This happens to be my first article (though I've done some edits here and there on started ones), so I'm just curious if there's anything that a more experienced eye could notice there.--User:Dtasripin 05:30, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
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