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[[Image:RATM1.jpg|thumbnail|right|300px|A photo of Thich Quang Duc, a Buddhist monk who burnt himself to death as a protest against Vietnamese Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem's administration's practices against the Buddhist religion, features on the cover of the first Rage Against the Machine album.]] Rage Against the Machine (also Rage or RATM) was a Rock and roll band formed in 1990, in Orange County, California. The group's personnel (the "Guilty Parties," according to the liner notes of their albums) were: *Zack de la Rocha - vocals *Tom Morello - guitars *Brad Wilk - drums *Tim Commerford - bass The group were popular through the 1990s and early 2000s, disbanding in 2000. They were a major influence in the nu metal genre, and were also known for their radical left-wing politics, which were featured in their music, album artwork, and were frequently mentioned in interviews and by their participation in political protests. Among other campaigns, the band has rallied for the releases of death-row inmate Mumia Abu-Jamal and life-long sentenced Leonard Peltier, been vocal supporters of the Zapatista Army of National Liberation, performed outside the 2000 Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles, California in protest, and played numerous concerts for various benefits. The band's musical signatures were de la Rocha's distinctive, rap-influenced vocal style (influenced mostly by Chuck D. of Public Enemy), Commerford's grinding bass guitar, and Morello's experimentation with guitar sounds. Fans particularly admired their powerful live performances. They toured with many other significant bands, including U2 (band) and the Wu-Tang Clan. ==History== The band's founding members were vocalist Zack de la Rocha and guitarist Tom Morello. They owed their name to a song, "Rage Against the Machine", by de la Rocha's former group, Inside Out. Shortly after forming, Rage recorded twelve songs, and distributed it themselves as cassette tapes. Several record labels expressed interest in the group, which signed with Epic Records. Some critics (such as writers for Melody Maker) criticised the band for voicing loud commitment to left-wing causes whilst being signed to Epic, a subsidiary of Sony Records, at a time when many alternative labels were struggling. Some critics felt that the band's anarchism was insincere. Tom Morello provided this rebuttal to that criticism: :A lot of labels contacted us, and lots of them just didn't seem to understand what we wanted to do. They kept talking about the message of the music as a gimmick. They were interested in us just because there was a buzz... They saw us as the latest local rock band to be hyped. But Epic agreed to everything we asked--and they've followed through... we never saw a conflict as long as we maintained creative control. When you live in a capitalism society, the currency of the dissemination of information goes through capitalistic channels. Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted. It's great to play abandoned squats run by anarchists, but it's also great to be able to reach people with a revolutionary message, people from Granada Hills to Stuttgart. Their eponymous debut album ''Rage Against the Machine'' was released in late 1992, and at a Lollapalooza appearance in 1993 in Philadelphia, the band stood still on stage for a full 15 minutes, completely naked, with duct-taped mouths and their guitars audio feedback through the amplifiers, as a protest against censorship and the Parents Music Resource Center. ''Evil Empire (album)'' (1996) and ''The Battle of Los Angeles (album)'' (1999) followed. The Evil Empire album featured Bulls on Parade, one of their more popular songs. In 1999, the band's track ''Wake Up'' was used (together with Marilyn Manson's) for the closing credits of the highly influential popular science-fiction movie, The Matrix, which is extraordinarily fitting given the name of the band and the story of that series of films. Their music was also used at the end of the sequel, The Matrix Reloaded (''Calm Like A Bomb''). ''Renegades (album)'' (2000) was a collection of cover songs originally performed by Devo, Cypress Hill, MC5 and others. An album of live and rare material fittingly titled ''Live & Rare (album)'' (1997), and a second live album, ''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'' (2003)(CD), several singles, music videos and three live shows, ''Rage Against the Machine'' (1997), ''The Battle of Mexico City'' (2001), and ''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'' (2003)(DVD). The CD and DVD, both titled ''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'', were released separately and contain slightly different track lists. The concert was the band's last. Between the release of ''The Battle of Los Angeles'' and the release of ''Renegades'', de la Rocha left the group. The band officially split up not long afterwards. One of Rage Against the Machine's most influential moments on the world stage was their recording of ''Sleep Now in the Fire'' on January 26th, 2000. Orchestrated by Michael Moore, the video was shot outside the New York Stock Exchange on Wall Street, in New York. As a result, the NYSE was forced to close down an hour early with dramatic financial implications. Zack de la Rocha is reportedly working on new material in the hip-hop arena; the remaining members of the band teamed up with ex-Soundgarden singer Chris Cornell and formed Audioslave. The first Audioslave single, ''Cochise'', was released in early November 2002, and the first album followed to mainly positive reviews. According to a Spin magazine interview with de la Rocha, he has recorded several tracks with various artists, among them Reprazent and DJ Shadow. As of March 2005, there is no information on when de la Rocha's solo album will be released, but in 2003 a song called ''March of Death'' that he recorded with DJ Shadow was released in protest of the 2003 Iraq War. In September 2004, Zack released a song called ''We Want It All'' on the ''Songs and Artists That Inspired Fahrenheit 9/11'' soundtrack. ==Discography== *''Rage Against the Machine (album)'', 1992 in music *''Evil Empire (album)'', 1996 in music *''Live & Rare (album)'', 1998 in music *''The Battle of Los Angeles'', 1999 in music *''Renegades (album)'', 2000 in music *''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'', 2003 in music (CD and DVD released separately; slight differences in tracklisting) ===Singles=== *''Bombtrack'', 1992 *''Killing in the Name'', 1993 *''Know Your Enemy'', 1993 *''Bullet in the Head'', 1993 *''Freedom'', 1994 *''Bulls on Parade'', 1995 *''Tire Me'', 1996 *''People of the Sun'', 1996 *''Down Rodeo'', 1996 *''Sleep Now in the Fire'', 1999 *''Guerrilla Radio'', 1999 *''Testify'', 2000 *''Calm Like a Bomb'', 2000 *''The Ghost of Tom Joad'', 2001 *''Renegades of Funk'', 2002 *''How I Could Just Kill a Man'', 2002 ==External links== * [http://www.ratm.com/ The official Rage Against the Machine site] ** [http://www.ratm.com/new2/timeline/index.html The official band timeline] * [http://www.ratm.net/ Good source of RATM Tabulature and much more] * [http://www.musicfanclubs.org/rage/ 'the pretty incomplete RATM site']. Actually one of the most comprehensive RATM sites online. * [http://www.accidentprone.com/ragefaq/ The RATM Unofficial FAQ] * [http://www.zackdelarocha.com/ zackdelarocha.com]. Contains de la Rocha's track with DJ Shadow, "March of Death". * [http://www.zdlr.net/ zdlr.net]. A very good source for information on de la Rocha; "March of Death" is available for download. 1990s music groups American musical groups Rap metal groups
I wouldn't say the original version of the article contains any opinion; it's all incontrovertible fact (it's hard to deny their politics were both articulate and outspoken, and this isn't a comment on the "quality" or "correctness" of those politics). I leave the new stuff in, however, because it's useful information. I'm not sure about "hard left", however, I don't much like it as a term, and it's dangerous when left undefined. This is mostly a personal rant about the inadequacies of the "left wing / right wing" distinction, however. Would you agree with "radical" politics? /me goes to read the recent modifications to the article on radicalism to find out... --user:AdamWill Mysterious Fellow Editor, you happy with all this now? --user:AdamWill ---- Oooh, I get to be "mysterious". :) If I say "Henry Kissinger is articulate and outspoken" I'm expressing my opinion, not stating a fact. While I, personally, agree that RATM was outspoken and articulate the encyclopedia is supposed to have a Neutral Point of View and only state really solid facts (like who the members are, how many records they sold). Anything else ought to be attributed to a source. Can't do much harm, anyway. And I agree with you on "hard left", but I couldn't think of a decently concise way of stating it. I wanted to give a general idea of their political views, but I didn't know what to use. Meh. ---- :I (respectfully) disagree with regards to this particular instance. I think there's a bit of a blurry boundary between things that are absolutely technically "factual" and things that are probably technically "assertions" but which are so clearly true that there can't be any reason for not considering them factual. I simply cannot conceive of *any* possible standard for "outspoken" or "articulate" under which RAtM's politics wouldn't qualify; can you demonstrate the existence of such a thing? Facts are slippery things; I mean, you say you can happily state as a fact who the members of the band are, or how many records they sold, but even this is tricky. Who were the members of the Beatles? Is Pete Best in there, or not? I'm sure you could get "opinions" going both ways, so should the entry on the Beatles say that "some people believe the members of the band were X" and "some people believe the members of the band were Y"? Just thoughts. Ignore me if i'm wrong. Or even better, demonstrate my wrongness and expose me to ridicule. Don't worry, i'm used to it. =) --user:AdamWill BTW, I say mysterious simply because you're not attributing your stuff, either through a tag or through a Wikipedia username... --user:AdamWill ---- Heh, I ought to get a login name. Perhaps my problem is more with "articulate" that with "outspoken". "Articulate" means something like "well-expressed", which is a value judgement. Especially when you're dealing with lyrics, which are a form of poetry. Anyway, I've made my objection clear and I think we can leave it at that. :As it happens I wasn't referring to lyrics in particular, more the totality of RAtM's approach - they did lots of stuff outside of music directly, participating in protests, making statements, all the stuff on album sleeves, etc. I suppose articulate *is* a value judgment, but it's one I was intending simply to deal with, I suppose, sophistication of language. I see your objection now, i'll see if I can think of a better word to replace articulate. Hmm, OK, i'm gonna rewrite that section a little now. Thanks. --user:AdamWill ::How about "clear"? RAtM's political views are definately clear: all their songs deal with them directly and the members can be said to be politically active. -- User:Tzartzam ---- Is "cop-killer" a neutral and encyclopedic term? I'd argue it isn't neutral because it implies that murdering "cops" is a more significant crime than murdering other, lesser, beings. And if anyone wants to argue it's encyclopedic, let's hear it. --User:Sam Francis == The - the == Is it Rage Against the Machine, or Rage Against The Machine? I know in a title etc that small words (of, the, and etc.) are commonly not capitalised, but 'Rage Against The Machine' is a name, and as a name, surely the 't' of 'the' should be capitalised? Otherwise, it should be RAtM, which it isn't. User:Proto 09:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC) :[http://www.ratm.com/ ratm.com] capitalizes it in most places on their front page, but not all. [http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/card/0,,482410,00.html?src=redirsearch&artist=Rage%2bAgainst%2bthe%2bMachine Artist Direct] has it lower case. —User:BenFrantzDale 15:12, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
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[[Image:RATM1.jpg|thumbnail|right|300px|A photo of Thich Quang Duc, a Buddhist monk who burnt himself to death as a protest against Vietnamese Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem's administration's practices against the Buddhist religion, features on the cover of the first Rage Against the Machine album.]] Rage Against the Machine (also Rage or RATM) was a Rock and roll band formed in 1990, in Orange County, California. The group's personnel (the "Guilty Parties," according to the liner notes of their albums) were: *Zack de la Rocha - vocals *Tom Morello - guitars *Brad Wilk - drums *Tim Commerford - bass The group were popular through the 1990s and early 2000s, disbanding in 2000. They were a major influence in the nu metal genre, and were also known for their radical left-wing politics, which were featured in their music, album artwork, and were frequently mentioned in interviews and by their participation in political protests. Among other campaigns, the band has rallied for the releases of death-row inmate Mumia Abu-Jamal and life-long sentenced Leonard Peltier, been vocal supporters of the Zapatista Army of National Liberation, performed outside the 2000 Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles, California in protest, and played numerous concerts for various benefits. The band's musical signatures were de la Rocha's distinctive, rap-influenced vocal style (influenced mostly by Chuck D. of Public Enemy), Commerford's grinding bass guitar, and Morello's experimentation with guitar sounds. Fans particularly admired their powerful live performances. They toured with many other significant bands, including U2 (band) and the Wu-Tang Clan. ==History== The band's founding members were vocalist Zack de la Rocha and guitarist Tom Morello. They owed their name to a song, "Rage Against the Machine", by de la Rocha's former group, Inside Out. Shortly after forming, Rage recorded twelve songs, and distributed it themselves as cassette tapes. Several record labels expressed interest in the group, which signed with Epic Records. Some critics (such as writers for Melody Maker) criticised the band for voicing loud commitment to left-wing causes whilst being signed to Epic, a subsidiary of Sony Records, at a time when many alternative labels were struggling. Some critics felt that the band's anarchism was insincere. Tom Morello provided this rebuttal to that criticism: :A lot of labels contacted us, and lots of them just didn't seem to understand what we wanted to do. They kept talking about the message of the music as a gimmick. They were interested in us just because there was a buzz... They saw us as the latest local rock band to be hyped. But Epic agreed to everything we asked--and they've followed through... we never saw a conflict as long as we maintained creative control. When you live in a capitalism society, the currency of the dissemination of information goes through capitalistic channels. Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted. It's great to play abandoned squats run by anarchists, but it's also great to be able to reach people with a revolutionary message, people from Granada Hills to Stuttgart. Their eponymous debut album ''Rage Against the Machine'' was released in late 1992, and at a Lollapalooza appearance in 1993 in Philadelphia, the band stood still on stage for a full 15 minutes, completely naked, with duct-taped mouths and their guitars audio feedback through the amplifiers, as a protest against censorship and the Parents Music Resource Center. ''Evil Empire (album)'' (1996) and ''The Battle of Los Angeles (album)'' (1999) followed. The Evil Empire album featured Bulls on Parade, one of their more popular songs. In 1999, the band's track ''Wake Up'' was used (together with Marilyn Manson's) for the closing credits of the highly influential popular science-fiction movie, The Matrix, which is extraordinarily fitting given the name of the band and the story of that series of films. Their music was also used at the end of the sequel, The Matrix Reloaded (''Calm Like A Bomb''). ''Renegades (album)'' (2000) was a collection of cover songs originally performed by Devo, Cypress Hill, MC5 and others. An album of live and rare material fittingly titled ''Live & Rare (album)'' (1997), and a second live album, ''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'' (2003)(CD), several singles, music videos and three live shows, ''Rage Against the Machine'' (1997), ''The Battle of Mexico City'' (2001), and ''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'' (2003)(DVD). The CD and DVD, both titled ''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'', were released separately and contain slightly different track lists. The concert was the band's last. Between the release of ''The Battle of Los Angeles'' and the release of ''Renegades'', de la Rocha left the group. The band officially split up not long afterwards. One of Rage Against the Machine's most influential moments on the world stage was their recording of ''Sleep Now in the Fire'' on January 26th, 2000. Orchestrated by Michael Moore, the video was shot outside the New York Stock Exchange on Wall Street, in New York. As a result, the NYSE was forced to close down an hour early with dramatic financial implications. Zack de la Rocha is reportedly working on new material in the hip-hop arena; the remaining members of the band teamed up with ex-Soundgarden singer Chris Cornell and formed Audioslave. The first Audioslave single, ''Cochise'', was released in early November 2002, and the first album followed to mainly positive reviews. According to a Spin magazine interview with de la Rocha, he has recorded several tracks with various artists, among them Reprazent and DJ Shadow. As of March 2005, there is no information on when de la Rocha's solo album will be released, but in 2003 a song called ''March of Death'' that he recorded with DJ Shadow was released in protest of the 2003 Iraq War. In September 2004, Zack released a song called ''We Want It All'' on the ''Songs and Artists That Inspired Fahrenheit 9/11'' soundtrack. ==Discography== *''Rage Against the Machine (album)'', 1992 in music *''Evil Empire (album)'', 1996 in music *''Live & Rare (album)'', 1998 in music *''The Battle of Los Angeles'', 1999 in music *''Renegades (album)'', 2000 in music *''Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium'', 2003 in music (CD and DVD released separately; slight differences in tracklisting) ===Singles=== *''Bombtrack'', 1992 *''Killing in the Name'', 1993 *''Know Your Enemy'', 1993 *''Bullet in the Head'', 1993 *''Freedom'', 1994 *''Bulls on Parade'', 1995 *''Tire Me'', 1996 *''People of the Sun'', 1996 *''Down Rodeo'', 1996 *''Sleep Now in the Fire'', 1999 *''Guerrilla Radio'', 1999 *''Testify'', 2000 *''Calm Like a Bomb'', 2000 *''The Ghost of Tom Joad'', 2001 *''Renegades of Funk'', 2002 *''How I Could Just Kill a Man'', 2002 ==External links== * [http://www.ratm.com/ The official Rage Against the Machine site] ** [http://www.ratm.com/new2/timeline/index.html The official band timeline] * [http://www.ratm.net/ Good source of RATM Tabulature and much more] * [http://www.musicfanclubs.org/rage/ 'the pretty incomplete RATM site']. Actually one of the most comprehensive RATM sites online. * [http://www.accidentprone.com/ragefaq/ The RATM Unofficial FAQ] * [http://www.zackdelarocha.com/ zackdelarocha.com]. Contains de la Rocha's track with DJ Shadow, "March of Death". * [http://www.zdlr.net/ zdlr.net]. A very good source for information on de la Rocha; "March of Death" is available for download. 1990s music groups American musical groups Rap metal groups
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I wouldn't say the original version of the article contains any opinion; it's all incontrovertible fact (it's hard to deny their politics were both articulate and outspoken, and this isn't a comment on the "quality" or "correctness" of those politics). I leave the new stuff in, however, because it's useful information. I'm not sure about "hard left", however, I don't much like it as a term, and it's dangerous when left undefined. This is mostly a personal rant about the inadequacies of the "left wing / right wing" distinction, however. Would you agree with "radical" politics? /me goes to read the recent modifications to the article on radicalism to find out... --user:AdamWill Mysterious Fellow Editor, you happy with all this now? --user:AdamWill ---- Oooh, I get to be "mysterious". :) If I say "Henry Kissinger is articulate and outspoken" I'm expressing my opinion, not stating a fact. While I, personally, agree that RATM was outspoken and articulate the encyclopedia is supposed to have a Neutral Point of View and only state really solid facts (like who the members are, how many records they sold). Anything else ought to be attributed to a source. Can't do much harm, anyway. And I agree with you on "hard left", but I couldn't think of a decently concise way of stating it. I wanted to give a general idea of their political views, but I didn't know what to use. Meh. ---- :I (respectfully) disagree with regards to this particular instance. I think there's a bit of a blurry boundary between things that are absolutely technically "factual" and things that are probably technically "assertions" but which are so clearly true that there can't be any reason for not considering them factual. I simply cannot conceive of *any* possible standard for "outspoken" or "articulate" under which RAtM's politics wouldn't qualify; can you demonstrate the existence of such a thing? Facts are slippery things; I mean, you say you can happily state as a fact who the members of the band are, or how many records they sold, but even this is tricky. Who were the members of the Beatles? Is Pete Best in there, or not? I'm sure you could get "opinions" going both ways, so should the entry on the Beatles say that "some people believe the members of the band were X" and "some people believe the members of the band were Y"? Just thoughts. Ignore me if i'm wrong. Or even better, demonstrate my wrongness and expose me to ridicule. Don't worry, i'm used to it. =) --user:AdamWill BTW, I say mysterious simply because you're not attributing your stuff, either through a tag or through a Wikipedia username... --user:AdamWill ---- Heh, I ought to get a login name. Perhaps my problem is more with "articulate" that with "outspoken". "Articulate" means something like "well-expressed", which is a value judgement. Especially when you're dealing with lyrics, which are a form of poetry. Anyway, I've made my objection clear and I think we can leave it at that. :As it happens I wasn't referring to lyrics in particular, more the totality of RAtM's approach - they did lots of stuff outside of music directly, participating in protests, making statements, all the stuff on album sleeves, etc. I suppose articulate *is* a value judgment, but it's one I was intending simply to deal with, I suppose, sophistication of language. I see your objection now, i'll see if I can think of a better word to replace articulate. Hmm, OK, i'm gonna rewrite that section a little now. Thanks. --user:AdamWill ::How about "clear"? RAtM's political views are definately clear: all their songs deal with them directly and the members can be said to be politically active. -- User:Tzartzam ---- Is "cop-killer" a neutral and encyclopedic term? I'd argue it isn't neutral because it implies that murdering "cops" is a more significant crime than murdering other, lesser, beings. And if anyone wants to argue it's encyclopedic, let's hear it. --User:Sam Francis == The - the == Is it Rage Against the Machine, or Rage Against The Machine? I know in a title etc that small words (of, the, and etc.) are commonly not capitalised, but 'Rage Against The Machine' is a name, and as a name, surely the 't' of 'the' should be capitalised? Otherwise, it should be RAtM, which it isn't. User:Proto 09:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC) :[http://www.ratm.com/ ratm.com] capitalizes it in most places on their front page, but not all. [http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/card/0,,482410,00.html?src=redirsearch&artist=Rage%2bAgainst%2bthe%2bMachine Artist Direct] has it lower case. —User:BenFrantzDale 15:12, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
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