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The term ''public school'' has different meanings: * In England and Wales, one of a small number of prestigious historic schools open to the public which normally charge fees and are financed by bodies other than the state, commonly as private charitable trusts; here the word "public" is used much as in "public house". See public school (UK). The term ''public school'' tends to be associated with older, more prestigious fee-paying schools (for example, Eton College, Harrow School), but the distinction between these and other fee-paying schools is not well-defined. The term preferred by the sector itself is ''independent schools''. * In Scotland, Australia, the United States and most other English-speaking nations, a school which does not charge tuition fees but is financed and/or controlled by the government, in contrast to a private school (also known as an independent school); here the word "public" is used much as in "public library", i.e. to mean "provided to the public at public expense." In the UK they are also known as state schools. * In India, due to the influence of the British rule duing the 1700-1947, the term 'public schools' imply non-governmental historically elite educational institutions. *In the United States, institutions of higher education that are subsidized by the U.S. state are also referred to as "public", though unlike public secondary schools, a tuition fee is charged. Due to state funding, however, this fee is typically much less than at private institutions, particularly for residents of the state in which the school is found. *In some countries like Brazil and Mexico, the adjective public is used to denote education institutions owned by the Federal, State or City Governments. They never charge tuition. Public schools exist in all levels of education, from the very beginning until post-graduation studies. ==See also== *Public School (UK) *Education *Finishing school *Preparatory school *School *Private school *Public education *Catholic school *School uniform *Public university School types

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The information about what constitutes a Public school deserves its own article; it is already overly long for the flow of this article, and can be expected to grow somewhat. However, what should it be called? Public school (Britain)? Public school (British)? Public school (British English)? Any other suggestions? User:Jdforrester 18:13 1 Jun 2003 (UTC) : I'd suggest Public school (UK), myself. With Public school (US), if the American usage ever gets more material. Public school itself could then just be a normal disambiguation page. -- User:Oliver Pereira 19:36 1 Jun 2003 (UTC) :: Well, done. Hope it's as you expected :-) User:Jdforrester 20:25 1 Jun 2003 (UTC) Cool! And well done on updating those links, too. That must have taken a while! -- User:Oliver Pereira 21:17 1 Jun 2003 (UTC) ---- I've removed "''In the United States, most public schools are still called public schools.''" which seems to be nothing but a tautology, and "''(and so a reversion to one original meaning of private education)''", which doesn't seem to make sense. If anyone kinows what these mean, please feel free to explain in the article. -- User:Oliver Pereira 21:21 1 Jun 2003 (UTC) ---- I've just realised after trying to disambiguate links to this page, that there is no Public school (US) pages. Furthermore there are nearly 40 links that mean public school in the British sense and only 5 that mean it in the US sense. So why has the UK sense been pushed off onto a page of it's own rather than the other way around? User:Mintguy 10:10 19 Jul 2003 (UTC) : Because one could (and I may well eventually) write several tomes on the UK meaning; as it is a source of possible confusion, it helps to have a disambiguation page. Think of this as an extension of American and British English Differences. As Oliver said above, "if the American usage ever gets more material [...] [this] could then just be a normal disambiguation page". : User:Jdforrester 11:48 19 Jul 2003 (UTC) :: You miss my point. There is NO disambiguated page for the US meaning. It is not disambiguated. Nine times out of ten times, when a person creates a link for using the words "public school" they mean public school (UK), it makes sense to have this page with that meaning with a suitable disambiguation block at the top directing to public school (US) for the other sense. User:Mintguy 17:31 19 Jul 2003 (UTC) ::: No, I don't think I did; my counter-point was that this is a temporary state of affairs betwixt having a proper disambiguation page here and having none - we have instead a partial disambiguation page. ::: I admit that it might make more sense to have the more 'popular' definition (''id est'', what is now at Public school (UK)) moved to Public school, and the one less so (''id est'', the short commentary at Public school) moved to Public school (US), but then we'd get jumped on by the largest minority of Wikipedia readers - those from the US. ::: I never meant to imply that this was a satisfactory state of affairs, merely a workable one. ::: User:Jdforrester 03:37 20 Jul 2003 (UTC) Also, remember that there are schools in other countries than the UK and the US. If I wanted to write an article about secondary education in, say, Poland, then how should I distinguish between private and State-run schools? Should I refer to the latter as "public schools" (which may be confusing for the Britons) or "state schools" (which may be confusing for the Americans, since in Poland the "State" is the whole nation, not a subdivision)? How should I refer to schools run by local authorites, cooperatives, religious orders, etc? Please help. --User:Kpalion_User_talk:Kpalion">User:Kpalion|User:Kpalion User talk:Kpalion 14:35, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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