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The exploration of other planet is one of the most enduring themes of science fiction. During the first decades of science fiction, Mars (planet) was the most common planet and the most romanticized of our solar system whose surface conditions seemed closest to being amenable to life. Percival Lowell's idea about Martian canal was taken at face value then. Currently Mars is depicted mainly as a target of terraforming. See Mars in fiction for more details on the red planet's numerous roles. During the early-to-mid 20th century, Venus (planet) was also a popular subject. Venus is very similar to Earth in its size and surface gravity, and its surface is hidden by a thick cloud layer. Venus was usually depicted as a warm, wet, jungle- and marsh-covered world where life was plentiful, with often thinly-veiled allegories of the European colonization of Africa. Venus is in fact an inhospitable world — the clouds are sulfuric acid, the atmosphere is hundreds of times thicker than Earth's, and the surface temperature could melt lead. See Venus in fiction for more details and particular works. ==Fictional planets== Authors have created thousands of fictional planets. Most of them are nearly indistinguishable from Earth, which is why Brian M. Stableford calls them "Earth-Clones". In these, differences with Earth life are mostly social (like Barrayar in the science fiction of Lois McMaster Bujold). More physically unusual planets have been in the hard science fiction books. === Unusual social environment === Typical examples are prison planets, primitive cultures, political or religious extremes and pseudo-medieval societies. :''See'': Utopia, Dystopia. *Anarres — Ursula K. Le Guin's ''Dispossessed'' (anarchist) *Armaghast — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (prison planet) *Athos — Lois McMaster Bujold's Ethan of Athos (male-only society) *Barrayar — Lois McMaster Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan series (feudal military culture) *Beowulf (Honorverse) - David Weber's Honorverse. ''Very'' liberal sexual mores. *Brontitall — The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; planet of bird people who live in the ear of a statue after shoe shop disaster. *Cetaganda — Bujold's Vorkosigan series (genetically engineered culture) *Chthon (novel) — Piers Anthony's ''Chthon'' (prison planet) *Planets of Star Wars#Coruscant — Star Wars (planet-wide city, seat of Galactic Republic and Empire) *Dorsai — Gordon R. Dickson's Dorsai series (soldier culture) *Gethen/Winter — Ursula K. Le Guin's ''The Left Hand of Darkness'' (hermaphrodites) *Gor — John Norman's Gor series (men are warriors; women are sex-slaves; all are happy in their appointed roles) *Hades (Honorverse) - David Weber's Honorverse. Prison planet where none of the native wildlife can metabolized by humans. *Hanon IV — ''Star Trek: Voyager'' (Primitive culture) *Hebron — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (Jewish ethnic) *Lagash — Isaac Asimov's Famous Short Story "Nightfall" The Planet has a Day That Lasts for thousands of year inhabitants go crazy at nightfall *Magrathea — The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; planet of wealthy customised planet builders. *Mejerr — ''Vandread'' (female-only society) *Orthe — Mary Gentle's ''Golden Witchbreed'' (post-holocaust/medieval aliens) *Pacem — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (base of Catholic church) *Parvati — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (reformed Hindus) *Pern — Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series (people ride genetically-engineered dragons) *Omega (planet) — Robert Sheckley's The Status Civilization (a prison planet) *Qom-Riyadh — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (Moslem) *Rimmerworld Red Dwarf characters#Arnold Rimmer of Red Dwarf spends 600 years on a planet by himself. He creates clones of himself (originally to make a girlfriend). The planet is populated by millions of clones who eventually imprison the original Rimmer. *Riverworld — Philip José Farmer's Riverworld series (all humans of history) *Rubanis — Valerian (comics) series (ultra-capitalist) *Sangre — Norman Spinrad's ''Men in the Jungle'' (cannibalism) *Salusa Secundus — from the Dune Chronicles. Nuked-out "hell world" used as a training environment for super-soldiers. *Shikasta — Doris Lessing's ''Shikasta'' (cosmic consciousness) *Shora — Joan Slonczewski's ''A Door into Ocean'' (waterbound culture) *Solaria — Isaac Asimov's Robot series. People grow up isolated, and eventually lead totally solitary lives, doing all their interactive via telepresence. *Talark — ''Vandread'' (male-only society) *Tiamat (planet) — Joan D. Vinge's ''The Snow Queen'' (matriarchy/monarchy) *Xindus — ''Star Trek: Enterprise'' Some Fantasy Worlds are also depicted as alien planets. === Unusual physical environment === Typical examples are one-climate planets — deserts, waterworlds, arctic conditions and ''especially'' jungles. *Abyormen — Hal Clement's ''Cycle of Fire'' (temperature extremes) *Acid(Planet) — ''Total Annihilation'' (Corresive oceans with forests of explosive gasbag plants) *Aquarius — Giant waterworld that caused the Biblical Great Flood. From Final Yamato of the Space Battleship Yamato series. *Arrakis — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (desert world, sole source of Melange) *Atlantis — Peter F. Hamilton's The Night's Dawn Trilogy (waterworld) *Ballybran — Anne McCaffrey's ''Crystal Singer''. (toxic world. Inhabitants must form a symbionic relationship with a spore in order to survive.) *Planets of Star Wars#Bespin — ''Star Wars'' (gas giant with habitable atmospheric layer) *Big Planet — Jack Vance *Core Prime — ''Total Annihilation'' (metallic with a gigantic computer at its core and a landfill-covered satellite) *Cybertron — ''Transformers series'' (Metallic/Mechanical) *Planets of Star Wars#Dagobah — ''Star Wars'' (swamp, Yoda's hideout) *Dhrawn — Hal Clement's ''Star Light'' (high gravity) *Dragon's Egg — Robert Forward (life on neutron star) *Echronedal — Iain M. Banks' ''The Player of Games'' (a fire storm forever sweeping round an unbroken equatorial continent) *Ego the Living Planet — Marvel comics (living planet) *Endor — the forest-moon in ''Return of the Jedi'' *Erna — C. S. Friedman's ''Coldfire Trilogy'' (psychically malleable quasi-sentient natural forces) *Far Away — Peter F. Hamilton's Pandora's Star (triangle of stratospheric mountains, sterilized by solar flare, Starflyer alien) *Gamilon/Gamilus — Polluted homeworld of Leader Desslock the Gamilon/Gamilus Empire — Space Battleship Yamato *Garth — David Brin's ''Uplift War'' (weird biology) *Giedi Prime — Frank Herbert's ''Dune series'' (surface covered in upwelling oil, homeworld of House Harkonnen) *God's Grove — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (forest world,Worldtree) *Grayson (Honorverse) — David Weber's Honorverse. Toxic, heavy metal environment. *Hekla (planet) — Hal Clement's ''Cold Front'' (ice age aliens) *Helliconia — Brian Aldiss (seasons last millennia) *Hoth — ''The Empire Strikes Back'' (arctic) *Homeworld of The Micronauts, actually a chain of worldlets connected which resembles the ball and stick molecular model. *Htrae — Red Dwarf (a backwards version of Earth). *Hydros (planet) — Robert Silverberg's ''Face of the Waters'' (waterworld) *Hyperion (planet) — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (one of 9 labyrinth planets, Time Tombs) *Ireta - Anne McCaffrey's Planet Pirate series. Inhabited by both people and dinosaurs. *Ishtar (Anderson) — Poul Anderson's ''Fire Time'' (periods of intense heat) *Kamino — ''Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones'' (ocean) *Kashyyyk — A forest world caused by a terraforming accident where gigantic trees and furry, sentient Wookiees to maintain them evolved at an accelerated pace, ''Star Wars'' (particularly ''Knights of the Old Republic'') *Kharak — ''Homeworld'' (desert planet) destroyed by an enemy race after space travel is developed *Kithrup — David Brin's ''Startide Rising'' (waterworld rich in heavy metals, which form part of the biochemical structure of its life. Mildly toxic to non-native life. also the "retirement" home of a neurotic race with enormous psi power) *LV-426 — ''Alien (movie)'' *Lamarckia — Greg Bear's ''Legacy'' (Jean-Baptiste Lamarck) *Planets of Star Wars#Manaan — ''Star Wars'' (ocean) *Majipoor — Robert Silverberg (large planet) *Mare Infinitus — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (waterworld) *Maui-Covenant — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (motile isles) *Medea (planet) — Harlan Ellison's worldbuilding project *Mesklin — Hal Clement's ''Mission of Gravity'' (superjovian) *Monea — ''Star Trek: Voyager'' (waterworld) *Mor-Tax — the aliens' true homeworld in the first season of ''War of the Worlds (television)'' (described as a garden planet) *Nacre — Piers Anthony's ''Omnivore'' *Namek and New Namek — Akira Toriyama's Dragonball (temperate land where trees are scarce, but water and grass abondant) *Placet — Fredric Brown's ''Placet is a Crazy Place'' *Poseidon (planet) — Blue Planet Roleplaying game (ocean world) *Pyrrus — Harry Harrison's Deathworld (high gravity and parapsychology animals) *Regis III — Stanislaw Lem's ''Invincible'' (inorganic evolution) *Resurgam — Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe (desert with buried alien artefacts) *Rocheworld — Robert Forward (double planet) *The Smoke Ring — Larry Niven's ''Integral Trees'' & ''Smoke Ring'' (gas ring around a neutron star) *Sol Draconi Septem — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (glacier covered) *Solaris (planet) — Stanislaw Lem's ''Solaris (novel)'' (Mostly covered by living ocean) *Star One. A star with a single planet holding the Federation's main computers in Blakes Seven, situated between our galaxy and the Andromeda galaxy. Planet destroyed in an intergalactic war. *Pern — Anne McCaffrey's ''Dragonriders of Pern''. Deadly spore capable of eating ANYTHING (except rock and metal) rains down on planet for fifty years every 200-400 years. *Planets of Star Wars#Tatooine — ''Star Wars'' movies (desert world) *TallonIV from metroid prime, asteroid carrying mutating chemical crashed 25 years prior causing end of Chozon civilisation there and horrible changes in flora and fauna, chemical may come from one center metroid-like creature *Tenebra — Hal Clement's ''Close to Critical'' (high gravity and corrosive atmosphere) *Terminal — an artificial planet displaying extreme polar flattening in Blakes Seven. *Thalassa — Arthur C. Clarke's ''Songs of Distant Earth'' (waterworld) *T'ien Shan — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (mountain world, toxic surface clouds) *Ursa Minor Beta nearly always Saturday afternoon The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy *Minor_Planets_of_Noon_Universe#Vladislava — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe (extremely turbulent atmosphere) *Well World — Jack L. Chalker's ''Well of Souls'' series (surface divided in thousands of different ecosystems, each one with a different sentient race) *World of Tiers — Philip José Farmer's book series of the same name (world-sized stepped pyramid with a different environment on each step) *Yavin 4 — Fourth moon of the gas giant, Yavin; Rebel Alliance stronghold located in the ruins of an ancient Massassi temple (abandoned long ago) from "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope" *Yellowstone — Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe, the site of Chasm City and Glitter Band habitats *Zahir — Valerian (comics) series (hollow planet) *Zeelich, a planet in ''Little Big Adventure 2''. It is covered by a thick layer of gas clouds and beneath lies a sea of lava. Vegetation and civilisation is recurrent only on mountains above the cloud layer. === Other === *Aiur — jungle planet in Starcraft the computer game *Altair IV — ''Forbidden Planet'' *Ahnooie-4 where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) decides to put a repulsive blob out of its misery *Arisia — E. E. Smith's Lensmen series *Ark (Noon Universe) — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Arlia — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Astra — A Marvel Universe) planet where humanoid aliens possess magnetic and molecule-controlling powers that enable them to have every power on metal *Athse — Ursula K. Le Guin's ''The Word for World is Forest'' *Bajor — ''Star Trek'' *Barsoom — Edgar Rice Burroughs, heroic fantasy version of Mars (planet) *Belzagor — Robert Silverberg's ''Downward to the Earth'' *The Blue Sands Planet — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky *Bog— where Spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) avoids pools of toxic chemicals under a choking atmosphere of poisonous gases *Botany — an Earth-like world portrayed in Anne McCaffrey's ''Freedom'' series. *Boskone — Smith's Lensmen series *Planets of Star Wars#Bothawui — ''Star Wars'' cosmopolitan planet of Minor races in Star Wars#Bothans *Caladan — House Atreides home planet before being ordered to take up occupancy of Arrakis. Frank Herbert Dune (novel). *Caprica — destroyed home planet of the Battlestar Galactica, one of the 12 home worlds *Centauri Prime — homeworld of the Centauri in the ''Babylon 5'' universe *Cyteen — C. J. Cherryh's Cyteen series *Darkover — Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series (medieval culture and psi powers) *Discworld — not quite a planet, as it's flat and supported by giant elephants *Dragon World — the Earth from the anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT, Dr. Slump, and Neko Majin Z. *Epsilon 3 — orbited by ''Babylon 5'' *Exxilon — ''Doctor Who'' serial ''Death to the Daleks'' *Freeza Planet 79 — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Gallifrey — ''Doctor Who'' (main character's home planet) *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Garrota — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Gauda Prime — a planet on which the series Blakes Seven comes to an end. *Giedi Prime — home planet of the Harkonnen Dynasty from Dune (novel) *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Giganda — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Gloob, above which spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) has a malfunction in his hyper freem drive and is blasted with a deadly frap ray by the aliens *Gorgona — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky *The Great Kai Planet — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Harvest — a farm planet in the video game series Halo (video game series) *Hegira (Greg Bear) — Greg Bear *Helicon — Home of Psychohistory founder, Hari Seldon in Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series *Hiigara — ''Homeworld'' (lost Kushan home planet) *Homeworld — Scott Westerfeld's ''Succession Series'' (Risen Imperial capital) *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Hope — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Jurai — The seat of the powerful Juraian Empire in the anime Tenchi Muyo. *Kaitan — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (home of the Padishah Emperors) *Kanassa — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Planets of Star Wars#Kashyyyk — ''Star Wars'' planet of Wookiees *Kosmos — A planet in the Marvel Universe from which a criminal sludge-like alien escapes to hide on Earth where he kills Wasp (comics)'s father and fights Ant-Man *Krypton (planet) — ''Superman'' *Lar Metaal — Planet which shifts location in space every 1,000 years. Homeworld of Queen Promethium, Maetel and possibly Emeraldas — Galaxy Express 999, Queen Millenia, Maetel Legend *Legis XV — location of Scott Westerfeld's ''Succession Series'' *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Leonida — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Lithia — James Blish's ''Case of Conscience'' *Lusitania (planet) — Orson Scott Card's ''Speaker for the Dead'' *Metaluna — ''This Island Earth'' *Minbar — homeworld of the Minbari in the ''Babylon 5'' universe *Mok, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) undergoes water torture (his mother washes his hair) *Mongo (planet) — ''Flash Gordon'' *Morthrai — destroyed world of the aliens in the second season of War of the Worlds (television) *Narn — homeworld of the Narn in the ''Babylon 5'' universe *Nihil, Latin word for 'nothing', additional planet of Earth's solar system in the novel Beyond the Spectrum. Due to a flaw in space, the planet is invisible except at close range, although it can see most of the other planets. The inhabitants attempt to conquer Earth during the 30th century. *Oa — headquarters of the Green Lantern Corps *Ork — homeworld of the humanoid alien Mork in the television situation comedy ''Mork & Mindy''. *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Pandora — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Pant — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *The Planet of the Apes (1968 movie) — originally a book by Pierre Boulle *Planet of Ix — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (The machine planet) *Plootarg, where Spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) crashes after being zorched by a Zarch spacecraft *Q-13 where Spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) faces despicable scum beings with his mertilizer beam and mordo blasters *Qo'noS/Kronos — Klingon homeworld in the Star Trek universe *Qar'To — a planet established in the first season of War of the Worlds (television) to be in the same system as that of the invading aliens (Mor-Tax) and has sent a synth to assassinate the Advocacy *Rainbow (Noon Universe) — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Reach — a military stronghold planet in the video game series Halo (video game series), in the Epsilon Eridani system *Reverie — Bruce Sterling's ''Artificial Kid'' *Rigel IV — The Simpsons Home Planet of Kodos & Kang. *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Ruzhena — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Salusa Secundus — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (prison planet and training ground of the Padishah Emperors' Sardaukar) *Saraksh — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Saula — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Sigma Octanus IV, a colony planet in the Halo series, significant because the Halo's "coordinates" were discovered there *Skaro — Home planet of the Daleks *Sky's Edge — Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe (Earth-like planet in a perpetual state of war between settler families) *Synnax — ''Isaac Asimov's Galactic Empire Series'' and Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov — The birthplace of Gaal Dornick, it was in a stellar system orbiting a region called the 'blue drift'. *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Tagora — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Terminus (Planet) - Home of the Foundation (novel) in Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series *Texlahoma — depressive Earth analogue in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X'' *Planets of Star Wars#Thyferra — ''Star Wars'' *Tirol — Homeworld of the Robotech Masters —Robotech *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Tissa — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Tleilax — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (home of the Bene Tleilaxu) *Trantor — ''Isaac Asimov's Galactic Empire Series'' and Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov — A planet-wide city *Tralfamadore in the books by Kurt Vonnegut, home to the phlegmatic Tralfamadorians. *Twinsun from the ''Little Big Adventure'' games, a planet which is lighted by two suns (which are fixated). It has three climates: the poles are hot and desertic, the equator is cold and artic (in opposite to planet Earth), and between them lie temperate lands. *Planet Vegeta and New Vegeta — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Vulcan (Star Trek) — ''Star Trek'' *Wallach IX — in ''Dune (novel)'', the home of the Bene Gesserit. * "X" (planet) source of Alludium Phosdex, the shaving cream atom, in Duck Dodgers *X-13 where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) is captured and brought before the Zorg despot *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Yayla — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Z'ha'dum (planet) — Home of the Shadows in ''Babylon 5'' *Zanshaa — Walter Jon Williams's ''Dread Empire's Fall'' (Shaa Imperial Capital) *Zark, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) has several adventures escaping sinister aliens *Zartron-9 home of the awful bug beings who blast spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) while he reboots his saucer's computer and tries to recalibrate his weapons *Zog, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) makes a (very rare) perfect 3 point landing *Zok, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) is marooned *Zokk, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) bounds across the landscape given the low gravity *Zorg, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) sets his gun on deep-fat fry to blast aliens In addition, some writers, scientists and artists have speculated about artificial worlds or planet-equivalents; see Larry Niven's Ringworld, Freeman Dyson's Dyson sphere or Christian Waldvogel's Globus Cassus. == Books == * Neil F. Comins: ''What if the Moon didn't exist'' * Stephen Gillette: ''World-Building'' (Writer's Digest Books) * Brian Stableford: ''The Dictionary of Science Fiction Places'' == Related articles == * Archive of fictional things * Artificial world * Desert planets * Extrasolar planet * Globus Cassus * Fantasy Worlds * Fictional country * Hypothetical planet * Terrestrial planet * Planets of Star Wars == External links == * [http://www.world-builders.org/ Worldbuilding Class] * [http://www.multiverse-db.com/ The Multiverse Database] Fictional planets Lists of fictional things Science fiction themes
I did not wat to dump 649 planets in my notes onto the pages... User:Skysmith ---- Since my stub article about nanastusixpopisimusixlesixian nation was thrown away it is absurd to await the permission of WKC - WikiHighCommand to insert here their planet Nanastusixpopisimusixlesixia I3V :) A little bit of humour does not hurt no one or does it... --User:XJamRastafire 00:11 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :Out there is a small Roger Penrose probability that Nana I3V could be 'somehow' the 1st Planet in Science Non-Fiction :). But I guess it is of order 1/(10^10^123^googolplex * 42) :). -- User:XJamRastafire 00:27 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) ---- How about the planets from computer games as (Elite 1|2|3|4, X - Beyond the Frontier, StarLancer ''and many more'')? Are computer games also science fiction? Another list can be Stars in Science Fiction. -- User:XJamRastafire 00:40 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :We'll never spare planets. Elite (computer game) from 1983 had over 5000 planet to visit. --User:XJamRastafire 00:47 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) It is estimated that in our own Galaxy there are about 50,000 planets. This is not science fiction anymore :) --User:XJamRastafire 00:57 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) * - Interesting idea. Here are Planets in computer games and Planets in role-playing games if anyone wants them. ------- Maveric149 writes "no reason to link each real planet" -- this article was originally "Planets in Science Fiction", which all of the real planets have been at one time or another. Also, I explicitly included the real planets to forstall people listing them as fictitious planets. :I agree on this, but a HC is a High Command :) --User:XJamRastafire 02:03 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :If there's no objection, I'll rename it to "Planets in science fiction". Adding "list of" to a title rarely adds anything, but makes linking more difficult and discourages the addition of general introductory/overview info unless at the same time you split off such an article. Also, Mav, along with the straight planetary links you removed the link to Mars in fiction, which most certainly fits with the original topic of this page. --User:Brion VIBBER 02:05 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :---By all means no objections by me. This would grow to fine article I think. --User:XJamRastafire 02:43 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) ::I really want to take the lists of planets out of this article, since I think it's a fine article, and plop them in a list_of_sci-fi_planets or some-such. I can add a boat-load more planets, but that would reduce the value of this article. Maybe some classic versions of earth-like planets, hard sci-fi trick planets, and other varieties, with links to the appropriate list(s)? ::~ender 2003-10-02 18:42:MST ----- ''Venus is the most Earth-like, not Mars'' :I disagree. Venus has roughly the same size and gravity as Earth, but surface conditions are ''radically'' dissimilar. If you were to find yourself plopped onto Mars in a pressure suit, you'd feel a lot more at home than you would on Venus before you melted/burned (especially if you're from Anarctica. :) --User:Brion VIBBER 13:13 Sep 23, 2002 (UTC) :Sure, but it's been said that if Earth's orbit was just a few degrees closer to the Sun, then our planet would be much like Venus. And, apparently, vice versa. ::Said, perhaps, but probably not true. The "habitable zone" is fairly wide--the key factor is that Earth has a large moon, which strips away a lot of atmosphere. User:Vicki Rosenzweig ------ Brion VIBBER wrote: "Venus ... often thinly-veiled allegories of colonization of Africa." - I didn't know this (but I believe it). Do you know of any examples? :Nothing I can back up with cites off the top of my head, but that's my impression. --User:Brion VIBBER
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The exploration of other planet is one of the most enduring themes of science fiction. During the first decades of science fiction, Mars (planet) was the most common planet and the most romanticized of our solar system whose surface conditions seemed closest to being amenable to life. Percival Lowell's idea about Martian canal was taken at face value then. Currently Mars is depicted mainly as a target of terraforming. See Mars in fiction for more details on the red planet's numerous roles. During the early-to-mid 20th century, Venus (planet) was also a popular subject. Venus is very similar to Earth in its size and surface gravity, and its surface is hidden by a thick cloud layer. Venus was usually depicted as a warm, wet, jungle- and marsh-covered world where life was plentiful, with often thinly-veiled allegories of the European colonization of Africa. Venus is in fact an inhospitable world — the clouds are sulfuric acid, the atmosphere is hundreds of times thicker than Earth's, and the surface temperature could melt lead. See Venus in fiction for more details and particular works. ==Fictional planets== Authors have created thousands of fictional planets. Most of them are nearly indistinguishable from Earth, which is why Brian M. Stableford calls them "Earth-Clones". In these, differences with Earth life are mostly social (like Barrayar in the science fiction of Lois McMaster Bujold). More physically unusual planets have been in the hard science fiction books. === Unusual social environment === Typical examples are prison planets, primitive cultures, political or religious extremes and pseudo-medieval societies. :''See'': Utopia, Dystopia. *Anarres — Ursula K. Le Guin's ''Dispossessed'' (anarchist) *Armaghast — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (prison planet) *Athos — Lois McMaster Bujold's Ethan of Athos (male-only society) *Barrayar — Lois McMaster Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan series (feudal military culture) *Beowulf (Honorverse) - David Weber's Honorverse. ''Very'' liberal sexual mores. *Brontitall — The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; planet of bird people who live in the ear of a statue after shoe shop disaster. *Cetaganda — Bujold's Vorkosigan series (genetically engineered culture) *Chthon (novel) — Piers Anthony's ''Chthon'' (prison planet) *Planets of Star Wars#Coruscant — Star Wars (planet-wide city, seat of Galactic Republic and Empire) *Dorsai — Gordon R. Dickson's Dorsai series (soldier culture) *Gethen/Winter — Ursula K. Le Guin's ''The Left Hand of Darkness'' (hermaphrodites) *Gor — John Norman's Gor series (men are warriors; women are sex-slaves; all are happy in their appointed roles) *Hades (Honorverse) - David Weber's Honorverse. Prison planet where none of the native wildlife can metabolized by humans. *Hanon IV — ''Star Trek: Voyager'' (Primitive culture) *Hebron — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (Jewish ethnic) *Lagash — Isaac Asimov's Famous Short Story "Nightfall" The Planet has a Day That Lasts for thousands of year inhabitants go crazy at nightfall *Magrathea — The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; planet of wealthy customised planet builders. *Mejerr — ''Vandread'' (female-only society) *Orthe — Mary Gentle's ''Golden Witchbreed'' (post-holocaust/medieval aliens) *Pacem — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (base of Catholic church) *Parvati — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (reformed Hindus) *Pern — Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series (people ride genetically-engineered dragons) *Omega (planet) — Robert Sheckley's The Status Civilization (a prison planet) *Qom-Riyadh — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (Moslem) *Rimmerworld Red Dwarf characters#Arnold Rimmer of Red Dwarf spends 600 years on a planet by himself. He creates clones of himself (originally to make a girlfriend). The planet is populated by millions of clones who eventually imprison the original Rimmer. *Riverworld — Philip José Farmer's Riverworld series (all humans of history) *Rubanis — Valerian (comics) series (ultra-capitalist) *Sangre — Norman Spinrad's ''Men in the Jungle'' (cannibalism) *Salusa Secundus — from the Dune Chronicles. Nuked-out "hell world" used as a training environment for super-soldiers. *Shikasta — Doris Lessing's ''Shikasta'' (cosmic consciousness) *Shora — Joan Slonczewski's ''A Door into Ocean'' (waterbound culture) *Solaria — Isaac Asimov's Robot series. People grow up isolated, and eventually lead totally solitary lives, doing all their interactive via telepresence. *Talark — ''Vandread'' (male-only society) *Tiamat (planet) — Joan D. Vinge's ''The Snow Queen'' (matriarchy/monarchy) *Xindus — ''Star Trek: Enterprise'' Some Fantasy Worlds are also depicted as alien planets. === Unusual physical environment === Typical examples are one-climate planets — deserts, waterworlds, arctic conditions and ''especially'' jungles. *Abyormen — Hal Clement's ''Cycle of Fire'' (temperature extremes) *Acid(Planet) — ''Total Annihilation'' (Corresive oceans with forests of explosive gasbag plants) *Aquarius — Giant waterworld that caused the Biblical Great Flood. From Final Yamato of the Space Battleship Yamato series. *Arrakis — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (desert world, sole source of Melange) *Atlantis — Peter F. Hamilton's The Night's Dawn Trilogy (waterworld) *Ballybran — Anne McCaffrey's ''Crystal Singer''. (toxic world. Inhabitants must form a symbionic relationship with a spore in order to survive.) *Planets of Star Wars#Bespin — ''Star Wars'' (gas giant with habitable atmospheric layer) *Big Planet — Jack Vance *Core Prime — ''Total Annihilation'' (metallic with a gigantic computer at its core and a landfill-covered satellite) *Cybertron — ''Transformers series'' (Metallic/Mechanical) *Planets of Star Wars#Dagobah — ''Star Wars'' (swamp, Yoda's hideout) *Dhrawn — Hal Clement's ''Star Light'' (high gravity) *Dragon's Egg — Robert Forward (life on neutron star) *Echronedal — Iain M. Banks' ''The Player of Games'' (a fire storm forever sweeping round an unbroken equatorial continent) *Ego the Living Planet — Marvel comics (living planet) *Endor — the forest-moon in ''Return of the Jedi'' *Erna — C. S. Friedman's ''Coldfire Trilogy'' (psychically malleable quasi-sentient natural forces) *Far Away — Peter F. Hamilton's Pandora's Star (triangle of stratospheric mountains, sterilized by solar flare, Starflyer alien) *Gamilon/Gamilus — Polluted homeworld of Leader Desslock the Gamilon/Gamilus Empire — Space Battleship Yamato *Garth — David Brin's ''Uplift War'' (weird biology) *Giedi Prime — Frank Herbert's ''Dune series'' (surface covered in upwelling oil, homeworld of House Harkonnen) *God's Grove — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (forest world,Worldtree) *Grayson (Honorverse) — David Weber's Honorverse. Toxic, heavy metal environment. *Hekla (planet) — Hal Clement's ''Cold Front'' (ice age aliens) *Helliconia — Brian Aldiss (seasons last millennia) *Hoth — ''The Empire Strikes Back'' (arctic) *Homeworld of The Micronauts, actually a chain of worldlets connected which resembles the ball and stick molecular model. *Htrae — Red Dwarf (a backwards version of Earth). *Hydros (planet) — Robert Silverberg's ''Face of the Waters'' (waterworld) *Hyperion (planet) — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (one of 9 labyrinth planets, Time Tombs) *Ireta - Anne McCaffrey's Planet Pirate series. Inhabited by both people and dinosaurs. *Ishtar (Anderson) — Poul Anderson's ''Fire Time'' (periods of intense heat) *Kamino — ''Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones'' (ocean) *Kashyyyk — A forest world caused by a terraforming accident where gigantic trees and furry, sentient Wookiees to maintain them evolved at an accelerated pace, ''Star Wars'' (particularly ''Knights of the Old Republic'') *Kharak — ''Homeworld'' (desert planet) destroyed by an enemy race after space travel is developed *Kithrup — David Brin's ''Startide Rising'' (waterworld rich in heavy metals, which form part of the biochemical structure of its life. Mildly toxic to non-native life. also the "retirement" home of a neurotic race with enormous psi power) *LV-426 — ''Alien (movie)'' *Lamarckia — Greg Bear's ''Legacy'' (Jean-Baptiste Lamarck) *Planets of Star Wars#Manaan — ''Star Wars'' (ocean) *Majipoor — Robert Silverberg (large planet) *Mare Infinitus — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (waterworld) *Maui-Covenant — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (motile isles) *Medea (planet) — Harlan Ellison's worldbuilding project *Mesklin — Hal Clement's ''Mission of Gravity'' (superjovian) *Monea — ''Star Trek: Voyager'' (waterworld) *Mor-Tax — the aliens' true homeworld in the first season of ''War of the Worlds (television)'' (described as a garden planet) *Nacre — Piers Anthony's ''Omnivore'' *Namek and New Namek — Akira Toriyama's Dragonball (temperate land where trees are scarce, but water and grass abondant) *Placet — Fredric Brown's ''Placet is a Crazy Place'' *Poseidon (planet) — Blue Planet Roleplaying game (ocean world) *Pyrrus — Harry Harrison's Deathworld (high gravity and parapsychology animals) *Regis III — Stanislaw Lem's ''Invincible'' (inorganic evolution) *Resurgam — Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe (desert with buried alien artefacts) *Rocheworld — Robert Forward (double planet) *The Smoke Ring — Larry Niven's ''Integral Trees'' & ''Smoke Ring'' (gas ring around a neutron star) *Sol Draconi Septem — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (glacier covered) *Solaris (planet) — Stanislaw Lem's ''Solaris (novel)'' (Mostly covered by living ocean) *Star One. A star with a single planet holding the Federation's main computers in Blakes Seven, situated between our galaxy and the Andromeda galaxy. Planet destroyed in an intergalactic war. *Pern — Anne McCaffrey's ''Dragonriders of Pern''. Deadly spore capable of eating ANYTHING (except rock and metal) rains down on planet for fifty years every 200-400 years. *Planets of Star Wars#Tatooine — ''Star Wars'' movies (desert world) *TallonIV from metroid prime, asteroid carrying mutating chemical crashed 25 years prior causing end of Chozon civilisation there and horrible changes in flora and fauna, chemical may come from one center metroid-like creature *Tenebra — Hal Clement's ''Close to Critical'' (high gravity and corrosive atmosphere) *Terminal — an artificial planet displaying extreme polar flattening in Blakes Seven. *Thalassa — Arthur C. Clarke's ''Songs of Distant Earth'' (waterworld) *T'ien Shan — Dan Simmons's ''Hyperion Cantos'' (mountain world, toxic surface clouds) *Ursa Minor Beta nearly always Saturday afternoon The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy *Minor_Planets_of_Noon_Universe#Vladislava — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe (extremely turbulent atmosphere) *Well World — Jack L. Chalker's ''Well of Souls'' series (surface divided in thousands of different ecosystems, each one with a different sentient race) *World of Tiers — Philip José Farmer's book series of the same name (world-sized stepped pyramid with a different environment on each step) *Yavin 4 — Fourth moon of the gas giant, Yavin; Rebel Alliance stronghold located in the ruins of an ancient Massassi temple (abandoned long ago) from "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope" *Yellowstone — Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe, the site of Chasm City and Glitter Band habitats *Zahir — Valerian (comics) series (hollow planet) *Zeelich, a planet in ''Little Big Adventure 2''. It is covered by a thick layer of gas clouds and beneath lies a sea of lava. Vegetation and civilisation is recurrent only on mountains above the cloud layer. === Other === *Aiur — jungle planet in Starcraft the computer game *Altair IV — ''Forbidden Planet'' *Ahnooie-4 where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) decides to put a repulsive blob out of its misery *Arisia — E. E. Smith's Lensmen series *Ark (Noon Universe) — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Arlia — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Astra — A Marvel Universe) planet where humanoid aliens possess magnetic and molecule-controlling powers that enable them to have every power on metal *Athse — Ursula K. Le Guin's ''The Word for World is Forest'' *Bajor — ''Star Trek'' *Barsoom — Edgar Rice Burroughs, heroic fantasy version of Mars (planet) *Belzagor — Robert Silverberg's ''Downward to the Earth'' *The Blue Sands Planet — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky *Bog— where Spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) avoids pools of toxic chemicals under a choking atmosphere of poisonous gases *Botany — an Earth-like world portrayed in Anne McCaffrey's ''Freedom'' series. *Boskone — Smith's Lensmen series *Planets of Star Wars#Bothawui — ''Star Wars'' cosmopolitan planet of Minor races in Star Wars#Bothans *Caladan — House Atreides home planet before being ordered to take up occupancy of Arrakis. Frank Herbert Dune (novel). *Caprica — destroyed home planet of the Battlestar Galactica, one of the 12 home worlds *Centauri Prime — homeworld of the Centauri in the ''Babylon 5'' universe *Cyteen — C. J. Cherryh's Cyteen series *Darkover — Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series (medieval culture and psi powers) *Discworld — not quite a planet, as it's flat and supported by giant elephants *Dragon World — the Earth from the anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT, Dr. Slump, and Neko Majin Z. *Epsilon 3 — orbited by ''Babylon 5'' *Exxilon — ''Doctor Who'' serial ''Death to the Daleks'' *Freeza Planet 79 — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Gallifrey — ''Doctor Who'' (main character's home planet) *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Garrota — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Gauda Prime — a planet on which the series Blakes Seven comes to an end. *Giedi Prime — home planet of the Harkonnen Dynasty from Dune (novel) *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Giganda — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Gloob, above which spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) has a malfunction in his hyper freem drive and is blasted with a deadly frap ray by the aliens *Gorgona — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky *The Great Kai Planet — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Harvest — a farm planet in the video game series Halo (video game series) *Hegira (Greg Bear) — Greg Bear *Helicon — Home of Psychohistory founder, Hari Seldon in Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series *Hiigara — ''Homeworld'' (lost Kushan home planet) *Homeworld — Scott Westerfeld's ''Succession Series'' (Risen Imperial capital) *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Hope — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Jurai — The seat of the powerful Juraian Empire in the anime Tenchi Muyo. *Kaitan — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (home of the Padishah Emperors) *Kanassa — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Planets of Star Wars#Kashyyyk — ''Star Wars'' planet of Wookiees *Kosmos — A planet in the Marvel Universe from which a criminal sludge-like alien escapes to hide on Earth where he kills Wasp (comics)'s father and fights Ant-Man *Krypton (planet) — ''Superman'' *Lar Metaal — Planet which shifts location in space every 1,000 years. Homeworld of Queen Promethium, Maetel and possibly Emeraldas — Galaxy Express 999, Queen Millenia, Maetel Legend *Legis XV — location of Scott Westerfeld's ''Succession Series'' *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Leonida — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Lithia — James Blish's ''Case of Conscience'' *Lusitania (planet) — Orson Scott Card's ''Speaker for the Dead'' *Metaluna — ''This Island Earth'' *Minbar — homeworld of the Minbari in the ''Babylon 5'' universe *Mok, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) undergoes water torture (his mother washes his hair) *Mongo (planet) — ''Flash Gordon'' *Morthrai — destroyed world of the aliens in the second season of War of the Worlds (television) *Narn — homeworld of the Narn in the ''Babylon 5'' universe *Nihil, Latin word for 'nothing', additional planet of Earth's solar system in the novel Beyond the Spectrum. Due to a flaw in space, the planet is invisible except at close range, although it can see most of the other planets. The inhabitants attempt to conquer Earth during the 30th century. *Oa — headquarters of the Green Lantern Corps *Ork — homeworld of the humanoid alien Mork in the television situation comedy ''Mork & Mindy''. *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Pandora — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Pant — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *The Planet of the Apes (1968 movie) — originally a book by Pierre Boulle *Planet of Ix — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (The machine planet) *Plootarg, where Spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) crashes after being zorched by a Zarch spacecraft *Q-13 where Spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) faces despicable scum beings with his mertilizer beam and mordo blasters *Qo'noS/Kronos — Klingon homeworld in the Star Trek universe *Qar'To — a planet established in the first season of War of the Worlds (television) to be in the same system as that of the invading aliens (Mor-Tax) and has sent a synth to assassinate the Advocacy *Rainbow (Noon Universe) — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Reach — a military stronghold planet in the video game series Halo (video game series), in the Epsilon Eridani system *Reverie — Bruce Sterling's ''Artificial Kid'' *Rigel IV — The Simpsons Home Planet of Kodos & Kang. *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Ruzhena — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Salusa Secundus — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (prison planet and training ground of the Padishah Emperors' Sardaukar) *Saraksh — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Saula — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Sigma Octanus IV, a colony planet in the Halo series, significant because the Halo's "coordinates" were discovered there *Skaro — Home planet of the Daleks *Sky's Edge — Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe (Earth-like planet in a perpetual state of war between settler families) *Synnax — ''Isaac Asimov's Galactic Empire Series'' and Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov — The birthplace of Gaal Dornick, it was in a stellar system orbiting a region called the 'blue drift'. *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Tagora — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Terminus (Planet) - Home of the Foundation (novel) in Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series *Texlahoma — depressive Earth analogue in Douglas Coupland's novel ''Generation X'' *Planets of Star Wars#Thyferra — ''Star Wars'' *Tirol — Homeworld of the Robotech Masters —Robotech *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Tissa — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Tleilax — Frank Herbert's ''Dune (novel)'' (home of the Bene Tleilaxu) *Trantor — ''Isaac Asimov's Galactic Empire Series'' and Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov — A planet-wide city *Tralfamadore in the books by Kurt Vonnegut, home to the phlegmatic Tralfamadorians. *Twinsun from the ''Little Big Adventure'' games, a planet which is lighted by two suns (which are fixated). It has three climates: the poles are hot and desertic, the equator is cold and artic (in opposite to planet Earth), and between them lie temperate lands. *Planet Vegeta and New Vegeta — Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z *Vulcan (Star Trek) — ''Star Trek'' *Wallach IX — in ''Dune (novel)'', the home of the Bene Gesserit. * "X" (planet) source of Alludium Phosdex, the shaving cream atom, in Duck Dodgers *X-13 where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) is captured and brought before the Zorg despot *Minor Planets of Noon Universe#Yayla — Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, Noon Universe *Z'ha'dum (planet) — Home of the Shadows in ''Babylon 5'' *Zanshaa — Walter Jon Williams's ''Dread Empire's Fall'' (Shaa Imperial Capital) *Zark, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) has several adventures escaping sinister aliens *Zartron-9 home of the awful bug beings who blast spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) while he reboots his saucer's computer and tries to recalibrate his weapons *Zog, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) makes a (very rare) perfect 3 point landing *Zok, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) is marooned *Zokk, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) bounds across the landscape given the low gravity *Zorg, where spaceman Spiff (Calvin and Hobbes) sets his gun on deep-fat fry to blast aliens In addition, some writers, scientists and artists have speculated about artificial worlds or planet-equivalents; see Larry Niven's Ringworld, Freeman Dyson's Dyson sphere or Christian Waldvogel's Globus Cassus. == Books == * Neil F. Comins: ''What if the Moon didn't exist'' * Stephen Gillette: ''World-Building'' (Writer's Digest Books) * Brian Stableford: ''The Dictionary of Science Fiction Places'' == Related articles == * Archive of fictional things * Artificial world * Desert planets * Extrasolar planet * Globus Cassus * Fantasy Worlds * Fictional country * Hypothetical planet * Terrestrial planet * Planets of Star Wars == External links == * [http://www.world-builders.org/ Worldbuilding Class] * [http://www.multiverse-db.com/ The Multiverse Database] Fictional planets Lists of fictional things Science fiction themes
Planets in science fiction
I did not wat to dump 649 planets in my notes onto the pages... User:Skysmith ---- Since my stub article about nanastusixpopisimusixlesixian nation was thrown away it is absurd to await the permission of WKC - WikiHighCommand to insert here their planet Nanastusixpopisimusixlesixia I3V :) A little bit of humour does not hurt no one or does it... --User:XJamRastafire 00:11 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :Out there is a small Roger Penrose probability that Nana I3V could be 'somehow' the 1st Planet in Science Non-Fiction :). But I guess it is of order 1/(10^10^123^googolplex * 42) :). -- User:XJamRastafire 00:27 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) ---- How about the planets from computer games as (Elite 1|2|3|4, X - Beyond the Frontier, StarLancer ''and many more'')? Are computer games also science fiction? Another list can be Stars in Science Fiction. -- User:XJamRastafire 00:40 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :We'll never spare planets. Elite (computer game) from 1983 had over 5000 planet to visit. --User:XJamRastafire 00:47 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) It is estimated that in our own Galaxy there are about 50,000 planets. This is not science fiction anymore :) --User:XJamRastafire 00:57 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) * - Interesting idea. Here are Planets in computer games and Planets in role-playing games if anyone wants them. ------- Maveric149 writes "no reason to link each real planet" -- this article was originally "Planets in Science Fiction", which all of the real planets have been at one time or another. Also, I explicitly included the real planets to forstall people listing them as fictitious planets. :I agree on this, but a HC is a High Command :) --User:XJamRastafire 02:03 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :If there's no objection, I'll rename it to "Planets in science fiction". Adding "list of" to a title rarely adds anything, but makes linking more difficult and discourages the addition of general introductory/overview info unless at the same time you split off such an article. Also, Mav, along with the straight planetary links you removed the link to Mars in fiction, which most certainly fits with the original topic of this page. --User:Brion VIBBER 02:05 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) :---By all means no objections by me. This would grow to fine article I think. --User:XJamRastafire 02:43 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC) ::I really want to take the lists of planets out of this article, since I think it's a fine article, and plop them in a list_of_sci-fi_planets or some-such. I can add a boat-load more planets, but that would reduce the value of this article. Maybe some classic versions of earth-like planets, hard sci-fi trick planets, and other varieties, with links to the appropriate list(s)? ::~ender 2003-10-02 18:42:MST ----- ''Venus is the most Earth-like, not Mars'' :I disagree. Venus has roughly the same size and gravity as Earth, but surface conditions are ''radically'' dissimilar. If you were to find yourself plopped onto Mars in a pressure suit, you'd feel a lot more at home than you would on Venus before you melted/burned (especially if you're from Anarctica. :) --User:Brion VIBBER 13:13 Sep 23, 2002 (UTC) :Sure, but it's been said that if Earth's orbit was just a few degrees closer to the Sun, then our planet would be much like Venus. And, apparently, vice versa. ::Said, perhaps, but probably not true. The "habitable zone" is fairly wide--the key factor is that Earth has a large moon, which strips away a lot of atmosphere. User:Vicki Rosenzweig ------ Brion VIBBER wrote: "Venus ... often thinly-veiled allegories of colonization of Africa." - I didn't know this (but I believe it). Do you know of any examples? :Nothing I can back up with cites off the top of my head, but that's my impression. --User:Brion VIBBER
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