
User:ClockworkTroll 14:51, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC) Hi, have look at Monkton, Kent for some formatting tips. the subject should be in bold, and you need to check that links for eg Canterbury point to the correct Canterbury, Kent. The external link in [...] looks neater too. If I can help, let me know, User:Jimfbleak 15:42, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC) ==Towns in England== Sorry for the delay in replying - the definition of town used in the list is a little broader than just places which have a town council, but in Paddock Wood's case there is no doubt - for info on its town council, see [http://www.paddockwoodonline.co.uk/html/town_council.html]. Incidentally, you got exactly the right procedure for leaving messages on people's talk pages, except that generally we add comments at the bottom. Hope to see you around, User:Warofdreams 13:57, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC) == Categorisation == You don't need to add in a category link to an article, if a category to which it already belongs is a subcategory of that. So I just removed :Category:Rail transport from both Rail transport in Great Britain and London Underground, as :Category:London's railways is a subcategory of :Category:Rail transport in Great Britain, which is a subcategory of Category:Rail transport. Sorry 'n' all… — User:OwenBlacker 20:40, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC) **Thankyou, Owen, for pointing that out! I am a reasonable learner - with the accent on the reasonable!!! I do however find it a little frustrating that there are several articles on British rail transport, often without xreferring!!! It was particularly galling to find that, having added what I thought was information that should have been included but wasn't - and then to find that another parallel article had that but not some of the stuff in the first!!!! Part of the snag with doing a self-help encyclopaedia I suppose: E/Britannica would never have got into such a pickle!!!!! User:Peter Shearan 10:12, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) == NCC == I'd say the NCC lines page probably needs merging with Northern Counties Committee, which is my work anyway, though it's very stub-like. It all really depends on how much info you've got or are willing to contribute; you could go and write subpages, e.g. locomotives of the Northern Counties Committee but such pages should contain information that can't be put into the main article for lack of space/brevity. I think a top-down approach to writing articles like this is better. Once you've merged an article, redirect it, the page's history should be kept. User:Duncharris|User talk:duncharris 13:48, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) == Isle of Grain == The history of this article's writing is getting a little silly and I am as guilty I think, since it would have been better to have discussed the whole thing BEFORE we both keep chopping and changing it. The information I added - and which you have now deleted - was, to my mind, factual, historical information taken from an historical source (the 1801 map). Is it not still valid to have it in - perhaps given the section a heading: History of the island maybe? It does not as now written, point out that at the beginning that the whole place was simply marshland (yes you do say it later, but this is scene-setting stuff, isn't it?). There is also no mention that the place has been occupied since at least Roman times - the church has Roman tiling built into its fabric and was part of a nunnery. *I think that most people will in the first instance want information on the Isle today, and that its history - in as much detail as possible - would fit best in a history section, as you propose. And you are still persisting with the completely wrong geographical fact that an island is a peninsula ... and that a village is an island!! *The Isle is no longer an island - it is not surrounded by water! Instead, it adjoins the Hoo Peninsula at one end, making it a peninsula. This is by no means unusual - see also the Isle of Purbeck. The occasional terming of the village as "Isle" is indeed unusual, but I have nowhere claimed it is an island. For another example, see Isle of Whithorn. ** - no argument: but it doesn't make the Isle a separate peninsula, only part of the larger one, I would suggest. *** Interesting! I'd never come across Whithorn before: linked to mainland only by a man-made causeway, so similar to Grain. There's also Isles of Harty; Oxney; Thanet in Kent; and Axholme in Lincs!!! The idea that Port Victoria was built as an alternative to Tilbury is completely wrong. I have an article in front of me (in Railway Magazine March 1933) which gives the true reason for its opening. I quote (the italics are mine): " In the late 1870's the South Eastern Railway decided to promote a line through the (Hoo) district, with a view to competing for the traffic from London to Sheerness, formerly an almost unchallenged stronghold of the London, Chatham and Dover Railway. For some years past a steamer had been running from Sheerness to Strood, whence South Eastern trains gave a connection to London. ... the journey was of some length, along the rather tortuous course of the Medway. In 1879 the South Eastern obtained an Act for a branch leaving their North Kent line at a point about (3.5 miles) from Gravesend ... to Stoke ... In the following year powers were obtained for an extension, (3.5 miles) long, to St James, in the Isle of Grain, where a deep-water pier was to be built on the Medway. A ferry was to connect the new pier with Sheerness ..." I quoted that at some length since it once again shows that what is now Grain village was, like many others on Hoo Peninsula, called after the name of their parish church - thus Allhallows (All Saints), Hoo St Mary, and so on. The railway was opened throughout on September 11 1882. The pier was built for passenger traffic and indeed Queen Victoria was a passenger! In his book (The Kent Village Book 1999) Alan Bignell says that she "... took a rather curious fancy to Grain as a chosen departure point for trips to Germany" and that Port Victoria (named for her after all!) "was built essentially as a railway station at the end of a line from Windsor"!! So competition with Tilbury - then a freight-only dock - wasn't the case. * Excellent research - I look forward to seeing your corrections and improvements to the article. ** Thankyou - how kind! Almost finished! There seem to be rather a lot of unwritten references - eg the names of the marshes; container port (there is a reference under Port to containers; and many others. Surely they don't all need referencing? Stoke Marshes and Stoke itself are so insignificant that they can just be included in this article. *I usually find it best to put in a link for any possible related topics, even if they may seem marginal. For instance, more and more village articles are being created, and I strongly suspect that at some point there will be an article on Stoke, Kent. I know - I'm probably going to be in your black books now, but can we please discuss ... Peter Shearan 15:07, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) *Not at all - I'm glad of the chance to discuss it, and will copy this to Talk:Isle of Grain, where I should have explained my previous changes. User:Warofdreams 15:44, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) ** I'll get around to my suggested changes soon User:Peter Shearan ** There was an interesting piece in the Medway News Memories page a while back about the rail line to Port Victoria that suggested that the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) used it to visit a family in the Hoo/Grain area ... particularly two beautiful sisters. --User:Cunningham 16:20, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)Cunningham ==Stub== Hi Peter! I'm also new to wikipedia also. According to the wiki Stub page, if an article is less than a paragraph in length it's a Stub, but maybe there are exceptions I'm unaware of. My suggestion is to ask User:Francs2000, because he knows more about the the suject than I do. Thanks :)--User:Marie_Rowley''_|_User_talk:Marie_Rowley">User:Marie Rowley|''User:Marie Rowley'' | User talk:Marie Rowley 01:34, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
== Southfleet ==
Surely, I do not know the place and sub notice may be totally unnecessary. However, even small places can have other things worth a mention - date of founding (if such can be found and verified), local history or involvement with historical events, local celebrations, etc. They would not merit their own articles (there has been lots of talk about minor things like schools in the Votes for Deletion page) but IMO should be included in the articles about the location. - User:Skysmith 08:02, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
*Thankyou: it's as well to know. User:Peter Shearan
==Cossington==
The article you have placed under ''Category:Villages in Kent'' is solely to do with the one-time megaliths found near the farm of that name (and now apparently lost!). The article says that Cossington is a "farm settlement", but the OS map 188 at TQ 761616 has no other buildings other than ''Cossington Fm'' in the area. It lies right on the M2 south of the Medway Towns conurbation.
I have therefore deleted your category reference: there are well over 400 villages in Kent without adding "settlements"!
User:Peter Shearan
:Thanks, I don't know Kent at all so i was just guessing at the category from the information in the article. I've corrected the categorisation based on the new info. User:Steinsky User talk:Steinsky 12:08, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:: while you're there - I see that your signature block and mine differ: is there a way of getting the time/date in? and what does (UTC) mean? Like you I'm getting hooked on Wikipedia: it allows me to use my personal library in a way I never have before!!! User:Peter Shearan
::: For a signature with the time and date at the end, sign with 4 tilde's instead of 3 (~~~~ instead of ~~~ ). As for UTC the UTC will explain far more clearly than I could. User:CheekyMonkey 21:32, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:::: Thanks User:Peter Shearan 06:12, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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. Thanks. User:Jengod 19:49, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC) == Oxted line == You've changed the cross-references from the stations to the towns. But Sanderstead Station is not at all the same thing as Sanderstead (the station is quite a distance from the village centre). Surely in an article like this it's the stations not the towns that should be referenced. The number of articles about stations is growing, and although there may be some red links at present they will get sorted in due course. I would propose to revert to referencing stations, as has been done with some of the other articles about lines. By the way I don't particularly like the usage "Xxx railway station" instead of "Xxx station", but it seems to have become the wikipedia standard, except for multi-modal transport hubs. User:Ross Burgess 17:13, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC) == re: :category:Leeds Railways == Hi - You left me a comment about a change I perhaps made to this category (lines -> raliways). Looking at the history I don't see the change you're talking about, but in any event if lines is more correct please feel free to change it back. -- User:Rick Block 15:01, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Guiseley railway station == Hi, I've made a comment on Talk: Guiseley railway station. Please take a look, and keep up the good work on the West Yorkshire railway pages User:Dupont Circle 16:53, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Ah well, as long as one of your ancestors was from God's Own County then we'll let you off ;) I myself escaped for 27 of my 31 years but found myself returning! User:Dupont Circle 17:07, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) == More to follow == I noticed that another user had deleted this phrase from an article on which you were working. The reason given was that he didn't like it, but in fact there's more than that. Wikipedia articles shouldn't include any editorial comment, including phrases like the one above (or 'can anyone help with this', and the like). You can, if you want to leave a note for other editors or for yourself, using
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If you want to improve the article you could take the text from the site and re-write it in your own words, thus bypassing the copyright of the original page. User:David Johnson[ User_talk:David_Johnson|Special:Contributions/David_Johnson] 21:19, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
==Holman Fred Stephens==
Hi, Peter. Though I ''did'' make a silly mistake with Major James Coldwell (because "Major" was actually his first name), I didn't make one with the Colonel. It's a naming convention that titles and ranks, eg. "Sir" or any military rank, are not included in the article title as they are not part of the person's name. I admit I've never heard of Colonel Stephens, but I see that his web site begins with the words: "The Colonel Stephens Museum recording the career of Holman Fred Stephens, Light Railway Promoter, engineer and Manager, His Family, His Railways and His Successors." However, if he's really well known as just plain Colonel Stephens, and there aren't any other Colonel Stephens that he could get confused with, you could put a redirect from that title as well as the one that now exists from Colonel H. F. Stephens. Hope this clarifies things. User:Deb 17:20, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
== Bacon's Rebellion ==
''(I guess I should have noticed you are British before assigning you this! But, ah well, knowledge is good.)'' I just added some pictures to the article, and references. I've got that Stephen Sauders Webb book with me here, so I'll write up a few sentences about his radical idea. For now, all that I suggest is that you Wikipedia:Build the web more of the text, as it looks rather bare. Good job! --User:Dmcdevit 00:01, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
==Naming of Cross-Country Route/Services==
Well it's a matter of mutual convenience really. I originally put in the NE-SW route in only as the 'Cross Country Route', because that's what I remembered it as being called (but there's a possibility of 'false memory' here - I was tempted to email Ivor Warburton (who is a college contemporary of mine) and ask... :-)). Then Chris_j_wood pointed out that all four routes through Brum could properly be characterised that way. So we invented the term 'cross country services' for all four, and I stuck MR on the Bristol-Derby-Leeds one, because that was the easiest way to characterise it (it applies to the key cross-country central section) - the full extent of the MR portion is a bit irrelant IMHO - it's always been one of the railway's major routes in terms of length and for a long time into the 60s/70s, of freight.
I won't resist you on broadening the classification out to anything that doesn't go through London, if you think that helps, but I reckon you'll lose the whole point of the classification by dilution. The Cross-Country Route (MR) (or whatever we call it) is probably in the top half-dozen railroutes in the country - (and I have a soft spot for it - I was brought up within sound of it (in Derby) and now live at the Bristol end :-))
Characterising them by the VT (ie Virgin Trains) identifiers, seems a little too particular to me - eg VT might not have the franchise for too much longer!
Let's 'make hast slowly' and see what the consensus is.
User:Linuxlad 08:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The present position is a 'kludge' - I wrote the 'VT3' article, and Chris Wood (user: chris_j_wood) suggested that for consistency all the other three VT services through Birmingham should be included - so I wrote the cross-country services as a proforma, expecting he'd flesh it out (but he hasn't). Personally I'm more concerned with routes rather than services, and the NW branch from Brum is in my book just a variant on the West-Coast Mainline. (North of Leeds and South of Bristol I also lose interest - it's the crab-route across the grain of the country which interests me.)
I certainly would have thought there were more indicative names for some of the Welsh and South Coast routes you suggest. But, have a go, let's see if we can reach a reasonable consensus. Bob aka User:Linuxlad
==Orpington Railway Station==
I've added a sentence, giving the station's whereabouts in the town. I'm newish to Wikipedia, and I've been working on the Orpington page - that's where I live. I'm not sure all the train service details are quite right - there's no mention of services to Cannon Street - it looks like you know more about trains than I do - could you check, please? User:CarolGray 19:47, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. User:CarolGray 09:32, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have been into Wikipedia for some months now and thought I should introduce myself. I live in Kent, England and am in my mid-70s. Having spent a third of my life as a regular soldier, I then took up teaching before retiring some 15 years ago. I have an Open University degree, and spend some part of my life as a public speaker. My main interests are in the fields of Geography; local and family history; and have a lifetime's love of railways. User:Peter Shearan 07:01, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC) :/Desk User:Peter Shearan 08:20, 4 May 2005 (UTC) ==Copyrights== ==My contributions== Since starting to contribute to Wilkipedia I have concentrated on two areas: * A great many articles on Kent towns and villages: in particular adding some of the history of those places. I found that a great deal of many articles seemed to have been written off-top-of-head, and often had little substance as to what a town or village stood for. I don't mean to be too sweeping about that, but that was certainly my impression at the time. * A rewrite of the growth of the county organisation in Kent, since it all, like Topsy, "just growed" - and this was not the impression given in the article. * Railways: ** I began with the Metro (West Yorkshire) article : through this I began to see that as a general rule, articles had been written in isolation about each of the railways over which the Metro had control. Even though many of the lines traversed the same tracks, the articles read as though they were all working in isolation. I tackled each of the individual Lines, adding historical facts where I could. ** I have also done the same kind of work on the Southern (train operating company) franchise lines ** I am now tackling the South West Trains franchise in the same way. A great deal of this TOC's work is done in the London suburbs and I am coming to the opinion that articles such as :Category:London railway stations and List of London railway stations err since they stop listing at the London Borough boundaries - whereas the suburban rail traveller would consider, eg Shepperton to be in London as well - but no its in "Spelthorne" in Surrey: whoever would guess that?
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User:ClockworkTroll 14:51, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC) Hi, have look at Monkton, Kent for some formatting tips. the subject should be in bold, and you need to check that links for eg Canterbury point to the correct Canterbury, Kent. The external link in [...] looks neater too. If I can help, let me know, User:Jimfbleak 15:42, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC) ==Towns in England== Sorry for the delay in replying - the definition of town used in the list is a little broader than just places which have a town council, but in Paddock Wood's case there is no doubt - for info on its town council, see [http://www.paddockwoodonline.co.uk/html/town_council.html]. Incidentally, you got exactly the right procedure for leaving messages on people's talk pages, except that generally we add comments at the bottom. Hope to see you around, User:Warofdreams 13:57, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC) == Categorisation == You don't need to add in a category link to an article, if a category to which it already belongs is a subcategory of that. So I just removed :Category:Rail transport from both Rail transport in Great Britain and London Underground, as :Category:London's railways is a subcategory of :Category:Rail transport in Great Britain, which is a subcategory of Category:Rail transport. Sorry 'n' all… — User:OwenBlacker 20:40, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC) **Thankyou, Owen, for pointing that out! I am a reasonable learner - with the accent on the reasonable!!! I do however find it a little frustrating that there are several articles on British rail transport, often without xreferring!!! It was particularly galling to find that, having added what I thought was information that should have been included but wasn't - and then to find that another parallel article had that but not some of the stuff in the first!!!! Part of the snag with doing a self-help encyclopaedia I suppose: E/Britannica would never have got into such a pickle!!!!! User:Peter Shearan 10:12, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) == NCC == I'd say the NCC lines page probably needs merging with Northern Counties Committee, which is my work anyway, though it's very stub-like. It all really depends on how much info you've got or are willing to contribute; you could go and write subpages, e.g. locomotives of the Northern Counties Committee but such pages should contain information that can't be put into the main article for lack of space/brevity. I think a top-down approach to writing articles like this is better. Once you've merged an article, redirect it, the page's history should be kept. User:Duncharris|User talk:duncharris 13:48, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) == Isle of Grain == The history of this article's writing is getting a little silly and I am as guilty I think, since it would have been better to have discussed the whole thing BEFORE we both keep chopping and changing it. The information I added - and which you have now deleted - was, to my mind, factual, historical information taken from an historical source (the 1801 map). Is it not still valid to have it in - perhaps given the section a heading: History of the island maybe? It does not as now written, point out that at the beginning that the whole place was simply marshland (yes you do say it later, but this is scene-setting stuff, isn't it?). There is also no mention that the place has been occupied since at least Roman times - the church has Roman tiling built into its fabric and was part of a nunnery. *I think that most people will in the first instance want information on the Isle today, and that its history - in as much detail as possible - would fit best in a history section, as you propose. And you are still persisting with the completely wrong geographical fact that an island is a peninsula ... and that a village is an island!! *The Isle is no longer an island - it is not surrounded by water! Instead, it adjoins the Hoo Peninsula at one end, making it a peninsula. This is by no means unusual - see also the Isle of Purbeck. The occasional terming of the village as "Isle" is indeed unusual, but I have nowhere claimed it is an island. For another example, see Isle of Whithorn. ** - no argument: but it doesn't make the Isle a separate peninsula, only part of the larger one, I would suggest. *** Interesting! I'd never come across Whithorn before: linked to mainland only by a man-made causeway, so similar to Grain. There's also Isles of Harty; Oxney; Thanet in Kent; and Axholme in Lincs!!! The idea that Port Victoria was built as an alternative to Tilbury is completely wrong. I have an article in front of me (in Railway Magazine March 1933) which gives the true reason for its opening. I quote (the italics are mine): " In the late 1870's the South Eastern Railway decided to promote a line through the (Hoo) district, with a view to competing for the traffic from London to Sheerness, formerly an almost unchallenged stronghold of the London, Chatham and Dover Railway. For some years past a steamer had been running from Sheerness to Strood, whence South Eastern trains gave a connection to London. ... the journey was of some length, along the rather tortuous course of the Medway. In 1879 the South Eastern obtained an Act for a branch leaving their North Kent line at a point about (3.5 miles) from Gravesend ... to Stoke ... In the following year powers were obtained for an extension, (3.5 miles) long, to St James, in the Isle of Grain, where a deep-water pier was to be built on the Medway. A ferry was to connect the new pier with Sheerness ..." I quoted that at some length since it once again shows that what is now Grain village was, like many others on Hoo Peninsula, called after the name of their parish church - thus Allhallows (All Saints), Hoo St Mary, and so on. The railway was opened throughout on September 11 1882. The pier was built for passenger traffic and indeed Queen Victoria was a passenger! In his book (The Kent Village Book 1999) Alan Bignell says that she "... took a rather curious fancy to Grain as a chosen departure point for trips to Germany" and that Port Victoria (named for her after all!) "was built essentially as a railway station at the end of a line from Windsor"!! So competition with Tilbury - then a freight-only dock - wasn't the case. * Excellent research - I look forward to seeing your corrections and improvements to the article. ** Thankyou - how kind! Almost finished! There seem to be rather a lot of unwritten references - eg the names of the marshes; container port (there is a reference under Port to containers; and many others. Surely they don't all need referencing? Stoke Marshes and Stoke itself are so insignificant that they can just be included in this article. *I usually find it best to put in a link for any possible related topics, even if they may seem marginal. For instance, more and more village articles are being created, and I strongly suspect that at some point there will be an article on Stoke, Kent. I know - I'm probably going to be in your black books now, but can we please discuss ... Peter Shearan 15:07, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) *Not at all - I'm glad of the chance to discuss it, and will copy this to Talk:Isle of Grain, where I should have explained my previous changes. User:Warofdreams 15:44, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC) ** I'll get around to my suggested changes soon User:Peter Shearan ** There was an interesting piece in the Medway News Memories page a while back about the rail line to Port Victoria that suggested that the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) used it to visit a family in the Hoo/Grain area ... particularly two beautiful sisters. --User:Cunningham 16:20, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)Cunningham ==Stub== Hi Peter! I'm also new to wikipedia also. According to the wiki Stub page, if an article is less than a paragraph in length it's a Stub, but maybe there are exceptions I'm unaware of. My suggestion is to ask User:Francs2000, because he knows more about the the suject than I do. Thanks :)--User:Marie_Rowley''_|_
. Thanks. User:Jengod 19:49, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC) == Oxted line == You've changed the cross-references from the stations to the towns. But Sanderstead Station is not at all the same thing as Sanderstead (the station is quite a distance from the village centre). Surely in an article like this it's the stations not the towns that should be referenced. The number of articles about stations is growing, and although there may be some red links at present they will get sorted in due course. I would propose to revert to referencing stations, as has been done with some of the other articles about lines. By the way I don't particularly like the usage "Xxx railway station" instead of "Xxx station", but it seems to have become the wikipedia standard, except for multi-modal transport hubs. User:Ross Burgess 17:13, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC) == re: :category:Leeds Railways == Hi - You left me a comment about a change I perhaps made to this category (lines -> raliways). Looking at the history I don't see the change you're talking about, but in any event if lines is more correct please feel free to change it back. -- User:Rick Block 15:01, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Guiseley railway station == Hi, I've made a comment on Talk: Guiseley railway station. Please take a look, and keep up the good work on the West Yorkshire railway pages User:Dupont Circle 16:53, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Ah well, as long as one of your ancestors was from God's Own County then we'll let you off ;) I myself escaped for 27 of my 31 years but found myself returning! User:Dupont Circle 17:07, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) == More to follow == I noticed that another user had deleted this phrase from an article on which you were working. The reason given was that he didn't like it, but in fact there's more than that. Wikipedia articles shouldn't include any editorial comment, including phrases like the one above (or 'can anyone help with this', and the like). You can, if you want to leave a note for other editors or for yourself, using
The original article was naturally better than the current stub, but it was in violation of copyright law so Wikipedia policy required that it was removed. Copying in text from external web sites is likely to get Wikipedia (and maybe you too) sued, so you understand that it cannot be allowed under any circuimstances.
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I have been into Wikipedia for some months now and thought I should introduce myself. I live in Kent, England and am in my mid-70s. Having spent a third of my life as a regular soldier, I then took up teaching before retiring some 15 years ago. I have an Open University degree, and spend some part of my life as a public speaker. My main interests are in the fields of Geography; local and family history; and have a lifetime's love of railways. User:Peter Shearan 07:01, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC) :/Desk User:Peter Shearan 08:20, 4 May 2005 (UTC) ==Copyrights== ==My contributions== Since starting to contribute to Wilkipedia I have concentrated on two areas: * A great many articles on Kent towns and villages: in particular adding some of the history of those places. I found that a great deal of many articles seemed to have been written off-top-of-head, and often had little substance as to what a town or village stood for. I don't mean to be too sweeping about that, but that was certainly my impression at the time. * A rewrite of the growth of the county organisation in Kent, since it all, like Topsy, "just growed" - and this was not the impression given in the article. * Railways: ** I began with the Metro (West Yorkshire) article : through this I began to see that as a general rule, articles had been written in isolation about each of the railways over which the Metro had control. Even though many of the lines traversed the same tracks, the articles read as though they were all working in isolation. I tackled each of the individual Lines, adding historical facts where I could. ** I have also done the same kind of work on the Southern (train operating company) franchise lines ** I am now tackling the South West Trains franchise in the same way. A great deal of this TOC's work is done in the London suburbs and I am coming to the opinion that articles such as :Category:London railway stations and List of London railway stations err since they stop listing at the London Borough boundaries - whereas the suburban rail traveller would consider, eg Shepperton to be in London as well - but no its in "Spelthorne" in Surrey: whoever would guess that?
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