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*m:User:Patrick *m:Help:Contents *Special:Newimages *commons:Special:Newimages *:Category:Wikipedia images by topic *:Category:Wikipedia images *:Category:Wikipedia *commons:Category:ArticleType *commons:Category:CommonsRoot ==News== ==Links== [http://www.nndb.com nndb] [http://kohl.wikimedia.org/~kate/cgi-bin/six_degrees path] [http://www.yellowikis.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page yw] *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Recentchangeslinked&target=User:Patrick/w&hideminor=0&days=1&limit=5000 w] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Recentchangeslinked&target=User:Patrick/wt&hideminor=0&days=1&limit=5000 wt] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Recentchangeslinked&target=User:Patrick/w2&hideminor=0&days=1&limit=5000 w2] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Recentchangeslinked&target=User:Patrick/w3&hideminor=0&days=1&limit=5000 w3] *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Watchlist&magic=yes wl] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Allpages&from= all from] [http://clusty.com/search?&form=advanced&v%3aframe=form& clutsy] /1 | /2 | /test page 1 | /test page 2 */myskin.css | /monobook.css | /standard.css | /nostalgia.css | /cologneblue.css | [ ups] *[http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/elements.html elements] | [http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/attributes.html attributes] | [http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ css] *web colors ---- *en:Main Page, :de:Hauptseite, etc. - language version of Wikipedia, unless the link is from a Wiktionary, then the language version of Wiktionary. *w:Main Page - English Wikipedia *:de:Hauptseite (i) - German Wikipedia (also from a Wiktionary) *wiktionary:Main Page - English Wiktionary *wiktionary:de:Hauptseite - German Wiktionary *m:Main Page - Meta *wikibooks:Main Page - Wikibooks *wikiquote:Main Page *wikisource:Main Page (works from Meta; from en:, oddly, one has to use m:wikisource:Main Page) *commons:Main Page *sep11:In Memoriam User:Patrick ns. [http://www.google.com/advanced_search?&as_qdr=al&num=100 Google] -- [http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:www.wikipedia.org&as_qdr=all&num=100 search in Wikipedia with Google] -- [http://www.google.com/search?as_q=wikipedia&as_qdr=all&num=100 search "wikipedia" with Google] w [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Watchlist&days=.25 .25] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Watchlist&days=.5 .5] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Watchlist&days=1 1] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Watchlist&days=2 2] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Watchlist&days=3 3] [http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ fd] User:Patrick/monobook.css m:User styles m:MediaWiki roadmap Netherlands Transportation in the Netherlands Geography of the Netherlands Train routes in the Netherlands Train stations in the Netherlands User:Patrick/maps - Groningen (province) Friesland Drenthe Overijssel Flevoland Gelderland Utrecht (province) North Holland South Holland Zeeland North Brabant Limburg, province of the Netherlands                               nect [http://www.world-gazetteer.com/ gaz] Wikipedia:Research_resources#Free online resources [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=railway&redirect=no redir] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=railway&26redirect=no redir] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Railway&redirect=no test: == ,    +2:00== ==2005== This kind of year has 53 weeks in the ISO 8601 week - day format. This is the calendar for any common year starting on Saturday (dominical letter B) e.g. 2005. (A common year is a year with 365 days -- in other words, not a leap year.) January February March Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa January 1 February 1 February 2 February 3 February 4 February 5 March 1 March 2 March 3 March 4 March 5 January 2 January 3 January 4 January 5 January 6 January 7 January 8 February 6 February 7 February 8 February 9 February 10 February 11 February 12 March 6 March 7 March 8 March 9 March 10 March 11 March 12 January 9 January 10 January 11 January 12 January 13 January 14 January 15 February 13 February 14 February 15 February 16 February 17 February 18 February 19 March 13 March 14 March 15 March 16 March 17 March 18 March 19 January 16 January 17 January 18 January 19 January 20 January 21 January 22 February 20 February 21 February 22 February 23 February 24 February 25 February 26 March 20 March 21 March 22 March 23 March 24 March 25 March 26 January 23 January 24 January 25 January 26 January 27 January 28 January 29 February 27 February 28 March 27 March 28 March 29 March 30 March 31 January 30 January 31
April May June Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa April 1 April 2 May 1 May 2 May 3 May 4 May 5 May 6 May 7 June 1 June 2 June 3 June 4 April 3 April 4 April 5 April 6 April 7 April 8 April 9 May 8 May 9 May 10 May 11 May 12 May 13 May 14 June 5 June 6 June 7 June 8 June 9 June 10 June 11 April 10 April 11 April 12 April 13 April 14 April 15 April 16 May 15 May 16 May 17 May 18 May 19 May 20 May 21 June 12 June 13 June 14 June 15 June 16 June 17 June 18 April 17 April 18 April 19 April 20 April 21 April 22 April 23 May 22 May 23 May 24 May 25 May 26 May 27 May 28 June 19 June 20 June 21 June 22 June 23 June 24 June 25 April 24 April 25 April 26 April 27 April 28 April 29 April 30 May 29 May 30 May 31 June 26 June 27 June 28 June 29 June 30
July August September Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa July 1 July 2 August 1 August 2 August 3 August 4 August 5 August 6 September 1 September 2 September 3 July 3 July 4 July 5 July 6 July 7 July 8 July 9 August 7 August 8 August 9 August 10 August 11 August 12 August 13 September 4 September 5 September 6 September 7 September 8 September 9 September 10 July 10 July 11 July 12 July 13 July 14 July 15 July 16 August 14 August 15 August 16 August 17 August 18 August 19 August 20 September 11 September 12 September 13 September 14 September 15 September 16 September 17 July 17 July 18 July 19 July 20 July 21 July 22 July 23 August 21 August 22 August 23 August 24 August 25 August 26 August 27 September 18 September 19 September 20 September 21 September 22 September 23 September 24 July 24 July 25 July 26 July 27 July 28 July 29 July 30 August 28 August 29 August 30 August 31 September 25 September 26 September 27 September 28 September 29 September 30 July 31
October November December Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa October 1 November 1 November 2 November 3 November 4 November 5 December 1 December 2 December 3 October 2 October 3 October 4 October 5 October 6 October 7 October 8 November 6 November 7 November 8 November 9 November 10 November 11 November 12 December 4 December 5 December 6 December 7 December 8 December 9 December 10 October 9 October 10 October 11 October 12 October 13 October 14 October 15 November 13 November 14 November 15 November 16 November 17 November 18 November 19 December 11 December 12 December 13 December 14 December 15 December 16 December 17 October 16 October 17 October 18 October 19 October 20 October 21 October 22 November 20 November 21 November 22 November 23 November 24 November 25 November 26 December 18 December 19 December 20 December 21 December 22 December 23 December 24 October 23 October 24 October 25 October 26 October 27 October 28 October 29 November 27 November 28 November 29 November 30 December 25 December 26 December 27 December 28 December 29 December 30 December 31 October 30 October 31
Common year starting on Friday Common year starting on Sunday Leap year starting on Friday Leap year starting on Sunday For other years, just shift the headers appropriately. See also Gregorian Calendar. Examples 2nd millennium AD 19th century 20th century 1803 1814 1825 1831 1842 1853 1910 1921 1927 1938 1949 1955 1859 1870 1881 1887 1898 1966 1977 1983 1994 3rd millennium AD 21st century 22nd century 2005 2011 2022 2033 2039 2050 2101 2107 2118 2129 2135 2146 2061 2067 2078 2089 2095 2157 2163 2174 2185 2191 and so on every 400 years in the Gregorian calendar. ==2004== 2004 [http://www.csgnetwork.com/multitimedisp.html time] ---- January February March Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa January 1 January 2 January 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 January 4 January 5 January 6 January 7 January 8 January 9 January 10 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 January 11 January 12 January 13 January 14 January 15 January 16 January 17 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 January 18 January 19 January 20 January 21 January 22 January 23 January 24 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 January 25 January 26 January 27 January 28 January 29 January 30 January 31 29 28 29 30 31 April May June Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 4 5 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 25 26 27 28 29 30 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 27 28 29 30 30 31 July August September Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 29 30 31 26 27 28 29 30 October November December Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 28 29 30 26 27 28 29 30 31 31 Common year starting on Wednesday --- Common year starting on Saturday ==Symbols== ---- * • bullet * … ellipsis * ′ prime = minutes = feet * ″ double prime = seconds = inches * ‾ overline = spacing overscore * ⁄ fraction slash * ← leftwards arrow * ↑ upwards arrow * → rightwards arrow * ↓ downwards arrow * ↔ left right arrow * ∂ partial differential * ∏ capital pi * ∑ capital sigma * √ square root = radical sign * ∞ infinity * ∩ intersection = cap * ∫ integral * ≈ almost equal to = asymptotic to * ≠ not equal to * ≡ identical to * ≤ less-than or equal to * ≥ greater-than or equal to * ... therefore ---- * &bull; bullet * &hellip; ellipsis * &prime; prime = minutes = feet * &Prime; double prime = seconds = inches * &oline; overline = spacing overscore * &frasl; fraction slash * &larr; leftwards arrow * &uarr; upwards arrow * &rarr; rightwards arrow * &darr; downwards arrow * &harr; left right arrow * &part; partial differential * &prod; capital pi * &sum; capital sigma * &radic; square root = radical sign * &infin; infinity * &cap; intersection = cap * &int; integral * &asymp; almost equal to = asymptotic to * &ne; not equal to * &equiv; identical to * &le; less-than or equal to * &ge; greater-than or equal to * .<sup>.</sup>. therefore ==SI== ''G'' = 6.67 × 10−11 N m2 kg-2 = 6.67e-11 N m2 kg-2 = 66.7 pN m2 kg-2 = 66.7 µN m2 t-2 = 66.7 N mm2 t-2 ''G'' = 6.67 × 10−11 m3 kg-1 s-2 = 6.67e-11 m3 kg-1 s-2 = 66.7 mm3 t-1 s-2 ''M'' = 6e24 kg = 6 Zt ''µ'' = 4e14 m3 s-2 = 400 000 km3 s-2 ==Test== Maps of Leiden MapQuest out [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=0 1] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=1 2] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=2 3] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=3 4] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=4 5] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=5 6] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=6 7] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=7 8] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=8 9] [http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&latitude=53.15&longitude=6.50&country=nl&zoom=9 10] in
Multimap: scale [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=4000000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 4M] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=2000000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 2M] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=1000000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 1M] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=500000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 500k] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=200000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 200k] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=100000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 100k] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=50000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 50k] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=25000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 25k] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=10000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 10k] [http://www.multimap.com/p/browse.cgi?scale=5000&lat=53.15&lon=6.50&icon=x 5k]
MSN Europe out [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=10000®n1=1 10] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=5000®n1=1 9] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=1000®n1=1 8] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=500®n1=1 7] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=100®n1=1 6] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=50®n1=1 5] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=20®n1=1 4] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=10®n1=1 3] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=5®n1=1 2] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=2®n1=1 1] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=1®n1=1 0] in
MSN World Atlas out [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=50000®n1=2 10] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=20000®n1=2 9] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=15000®n1=2 8] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=10000®n1=2 7] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=7000®n1=2 6] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=5000®n1=2 5] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=2000®n1=2 4] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=1000®n1=2 3] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=500®n1=2 2] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=200®n1=2 1] [http://maps.msn.com/map.aspx?&lats1=53.15&lons1=6.50&alts1=100®n1=2 0] in {|class="toccolours" style="width:200px;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 95%;float: right;clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" |- !colspan=2 style="background: #f8fff8; text-align: center;font-size:1.4em;color: #004411;"|Knock
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Archive: * User talk:Patrick/September 2003 - January 2005 * User talk:Patrick/September 2002 - August 2003 == Template:Province South Holland == Dear Patrick, I noticed you are the main contributor to the Template:Province South Holland. Personally I find the present template a little ugly. Moreover it takes a lot of screen-space, and isn't in line with the templates for the other Dutch provinces. Therefore I am planning to change it to look something like this: Template:Province North Holland p (did you make that one as well?). That way it will be more in line with the layout of the other Dutch province-templates, while retaining both the usefull map of the province (although someone might want to replace it with a less-pixeled one at some point) and the links. What do you think of my plan? If you agree, I will make this change and then put this template on all South Holland municipality pages. By the way, do you know why Template:Province South Holland p exist and what the p stands for? I don't see the difference between this template and Template:Province South Holland. Am I missing something? --User:Hippalus 00:02, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC) :The current versions are Template:Province South Holland 2p with two parameters and Template:Province South Holland 3p with three: the latter is only used for municipality names with spaces; the third parameter is the name of the municipality with + for every space, which is needed for the MapQuest link. The other two templates are old versions, with instructions for the user to easily edit the page to include the new one. If you create a new version, you could either have again two versions, or use always three parameters. :On my screen Template:Province North Holland p wastes space on the right; in a large font this makes the text unnecessarily high, so please try to avoid that. Also, please do not make the map too small.--User:Patrick 00:27, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC) :See also Template talk:Province South Holland 3p.--User:Patrick 09:41, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC) == UN database... == Hi Patrick, I just noticed that the UN has inserted one article that was written partly by you into their database: [http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc-cgi/idc_cgi_isapi.dll?IdcService=DOC_INFO&dID=21693] for further information Actions: Content ID : UNPAN019581 Revision: 1 Type: APCITY - Asia and Pacific Title: Focus on Disaster Reduction: Tsunami Warning Systems Author: APCITY *Content Type: Case Studies Area of Focus: Disaster Management Full Title/ Monographic Title (Max 255 Characters): Focus on Disaster Reduction: Tsunami Warning Systems Document Author(s): Wikipedia ISBN(020): *Language(041): English Call Number(080): Place of Publication(260a): United States Publisher Name(260b): http://en.wikipedia.org/ *Date of Publication(260c): 01/08/2005 *Number of Pages/ Size of File(300): 3 Physical Medium(340): Computer file Notes(500): Abstract(520): This paper brief introduces the regional and the international tsunami warning systems, as well as tsunami detection, warming conveying, and the shortcoming of the systems. Geographic keywords(650): Asia/Pacific Thematic keywords(651): Tsunami, Disaster reduction Date of Meeting/Mission(811): Place of Meeting/Mission(811$c): Conference_Short_Title: Security Group: Public Checked Out By: Status: Released Formats: application/msword Yours, :de:Benutzer:Mathias Schindler == Gangleri, back again == * Halló Patrick! I was long time away from bugzilla. During last weeks I was mainly at :ro: where I am an administrator now, at :eo: where I applied for adminship and travelling at all the other places. ** Welcome back!--User:Patrick 00:31, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC) === question about localurl, PAGENAME, PAGENAMEE === * At :ro:Discuţie Format:TOCcat I describe a problem using "''localurl''" together with UNICODE characters. Is this a known problem? Do you have a bugzilla number for it? ** Use PAGENAME with single E within localurl, I think that works.--User:Patrick 00:31, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC) === Where are the subcategories === * Another "''strange''" behaviour I experienced with subcategories, when more then 200 objects are in the category. To my understanding all of the subcategories should be displayed whatever value is set for the "''from=''" parameter. ** A page with e.g. the articles in the name range Leiden-Rotterdam also shows the subcategories in that range. A message like "There is 1 subcategory to this category." refers to that name range. Rather confusing, I think.--User:Patrick 00:45, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC) :: It is realy confusing. It is the nature of bug fixing, changes, improuvements etc. to provide somthing new. Nevertheless changes to the "''look and feel''" should be done carefully. As it is now subcategories are hidden regardless if "''from=''" is used or not. Because I get involved more and more to link objects / pages from other namespaces then articles (i.e. categories, projects, help, ect.) I have difficulkties to "''find"'' / "''identify''" the subcategories. Regardless of how the technical solution would be (showing subcategories at all pages, showing them when no parameter is used, having an additional parameter "''subcategories''") something should be done here. I have not followed discussions at bugzilla:1 long time. If nothing is there on this subject a feature request should be issued. Regards User:Gangleri | [ Th] | :Gangleri 10:23, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC) :: See also bugzilla:1211 === other questions === *At :ro: we plan to use geografical datas about 13.800 places in Romania. Best would be to have a database somewhere at a WikiMedia server. How can we achieve this? What access can we have? What tools should we use? *What tools are available to use the MediaWiki software as a front end to a database? *I need 4-5 very simple extensions. Who could write them? Should I ask at wikitech-l ? *I made the category :ro:Categorie:Gre%C5%9Feli_cunoscute_%C3%AEn_Wikipedia and :eo:Kategorio:Konataj eraroj en Vikipedio where I link to reference pages. *Thanks for all you efforts in advance. Regards User:Gangleri | [ Th] | :Gangleri 22:34, 2005 Feb 4 (UTC) === answer regarding localurl, PAGENAME, PAGENAMEE === * Thanks for the hint to use PAGENAME and not PAGENAMEE at the mentioned template. I added comments at :ro:Discuţie Format:TOCcat too. * What is happening now is that PAGENAMEE is context depended: It has a different behaviour if it used inside "''localurl''" or not. That is confusing, another "''just have to know''". Please do not understand me wrong: I am happy to have a working solution but it would be more helpfull, if all other users experimenting with this would save time because the behaviour would be straight forward. Regards User:Gangleri | [ Th] | :Gangleri 10:23, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC) ** PAGENAMEE is not context-dependent, but localurl cannot handle the coded form, with %-signs, etc., that PAGENAMEE produces.--User:Patrick 21:15, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC) * Please see bugzilla:1649. Thanks! User:Gangleri | [ Th] | :Gangleri 12:30, 2005 Mar 7 (UTC) === How to find the subcategory === * Dear Patrick, please see :sr:Википедија:Tests for Корисник:Bonzo. If you think it's worth to make a help page at meta: and / or at :en: out of these informations feel free and let me know. Maybe there are issues you would add. Best regards User:Gangleri | [ Th] | :Gangleri 22:59, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC) : Thanks. Most was already more or less in m:Help:Category. One idea I just added, and I also linked to your page.--User:Patrick 23:27, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC) :: See also bugzilla:1211 and bugzilla:1212 ==wikitravel:== *Thanks Patrick for the answers so far. I forgot to ask about InterWiki links to the language versions for wikitravel:: **de: http://wikitravel.org/de/artikel/ **fr: http://wikitravel.org/fr/article/ **ro: http://wikitravel.org/ro/articol/ **sv: http://wikitravel.org/sv/artikel/ *On the [http://wiki.lenauschule.de community wiki] I made (with version 1.37) I inserted InterWiki lines in the database. In order to avoid there the translation of pagenames using unicode trough :en: I added entries as wikipedia_ro: etc. Doing this I could write directly wikipedia_ro:Bucureşti. *About the InterWiki table I have the following questions: **Are all Wikimedia projects using the same InterWiki table? **Who maintains them / it? **wikitravel:de, wikitravel:fr:, wikitravel:ro, wikitravel:sv fails. Is it a bug of how InterWikis work, is it a wrong configuration, is it easy to fix? *I made a redirect from wikitravel:ro to http://wikitravel.org/ro/articol/Portal . This will not solve the problem but I think it will not harm. ... I could see, that this redirect is only the half solution because it does not make the redirect. At least it shows where to continue. *If you do not have a better solution until now. You may make the similar redirects also as following: **wikitravel:de: to http://wikitravel.org/de/artikel/Hauptseite **wikitravel:fr: to http://wikitravel.org/fr/article/Accueil **wikitravel:sv: to http://wikitravel.org/sv/artikel/Huvudsida **Note: Normally for all projects there are redirects from "''Main Page''" with capital "P" to the main page. This is not the case for http://wikitravel.org/fr/article/Main_Page etc. *Regards User:Gangleri | [ Th] | :Gangleri 08:49, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC) ::I found [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/maintenance/interwiki.sql], but it does not contain wikitravel, so there must be a newer version. ::I do not think I can answer your remaining questions, sorry.--User:Patrick 10:15, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC) Hi, I think the most helpful person on this is likely to be brion ([http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk%3ABrion_VIBBER]). He took care of all international issues for a long time. User:Anthere :The (off-project) interwiki prefixes for our wikis are updated from the list maintained here: meta:Interwiki map. :It would be convenient if there's a single point on WikiTravel which can be used as a redirector for each language on WikiTravel in the wikitravel::</B></a> style; you might check there and ask Evan if they have such or want to set one up. --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Brion"><B>User:Brion VIBBER</B></a> 22:39, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC) :Now it is up to Evan. See <a href="http://wordsonline.org/User_talk:EvanProdromou#InterWiki_to_wikitravel:xx"><B>User talk:EvanProdromou#InterWiki to wikitravel:xx</B></a>. Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 23:11, 2005 Feb 8 (UTC) ::It'll take me some time to get to it, but I would actually prefer to have our articles at <nowiki>http://wikitravel.org/<language code>/<title></nowiki> rather than <nowiki>http://wikitravel.org/<language code>/<word for article>/<title></nowiki>. I actually have some scheduled downtime to make this change tomorrow, so that's a possibility. I'll update here on Thu EST with more info. --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/ESP"><B>User:EvanProdromou</B></a> 00:50, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC) :::Done. All our articles are now at <B><nowiki>http://wikitravel.org/{language code}/{title}</nowiki></B>. Feel free to use that form for the redirector. --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/ESP"><B>User:EvanProdromou</B></a> 03:28, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC) ::::I'm confused how <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wikitravel:<lang>:<title>"><B>wikitravel:<lang>:<title></B></a> is going to become http://wikitravel.org/<lang>/<title> . I don't get how to set that up on the Interwiki map. --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/ESP"><B>User:EvanProdromou</B></a> 04:42, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC) * Thanks Evan! I put a note also at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wikipedia_talk:Interlanguage_links#Interlinking_with_WikiTravel"><B>Wikipedia talk:Interlanguage links#Interlinking with WikiTravel</B></a>. Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 09:35, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC) * Links <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wikitravel:de:"><B>wikitravel:de:</B></a>, <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wikitravel:fr:"><B>wikitravel:fr:</B></a>, <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wikitravel:ro:"><B>wikitravel:ro:</B></a>, <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wikitravel:sv:"><B>wikitravel:sv:</B></a> corrected above. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 18:06, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC) So, what changed here? I don't see any actual movement on this. Considering that I was getting emails and user talk page messages several times a day when this first came up, I'm disappointed to see the lack of action. --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/ESP"><B>User:EvanProdromou</B></a> 18:30, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==Some Esperanto specialities== *Halló Patrick, I was surprised about some special interlanguage links. Please take a look at the abstract at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:eo:Vikipedio:Sciindaĵoj#doublex"><B>:eo:Vikipedio:Sciindaĵoj#doublex</B></a>. You probably know the best if this documented already or where to document it if is not the case. *There are lots of people "''making''" (adding, fixing etc.) interlanguage (and InterWiki) links, some manualy other using a bot. Probably there are some channels to inform them (or to mention it in a further release of the bot tools). Thanks and regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 01:09, 2005 Feb 8 (UTC) **Thanks, I added this to a few pages on Meta, including <a href="http://wordsonline.org/M:Interwiki_bot"><B>m:Interwiki bot</B></a>.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 22:53, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC) *Halló Patrick, I continued to work at the doublex issues at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:eo:"><B>:eo:</B></a> and made important additions to <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:eo:Vikipedio:Sciindaĵoj#doublex"><B>:eo:Vikipedio:Sciindaĵoj#doublex</B></a>. The page contains more then 3 error reports with comments in English and Esperanto. Some of the errors might be subsequent as those mentioned together with the "''watchlist''". ===Introducing an unique escape character / meta character=== *It is always the same story when the special character is included in the set of allowed characters and no meta character is available. Coding "<B>CXX</B>" etc. is tricky because what looks as "<B>CX</B>" at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:eo:"><B>:eo:</B></a> is already coded there as "<B>CXx</B>". Having more then two "<B>x</B>"-es will confuse the parser / the preview / whatever because if it would understand / could differentiate "<B>CxXx</B>" from "<B>CXxX</B>" it would not know what to do with "<B>Cxxx</B>". *I think there should be a "''escape''" character "<B><whatever></B>" which should be used "<B>before</B>" the "''real''" "<B>X</B>" / "<B>x</B>". So <nowiki><a href="http://wordsonline.org/</nowiki>Aldous_HU<B><whatever></B>XLEY<nowiki>"><B></nowiki>Aldous HU<B><whatever></B>XLEY<nowiki></B></a></nowiki>, <nowiki><a href="http://wordsonline.org/</nowiki>eo:Aldous_HU<B><whatever></B>XLEY<nowiki>"><B></nowiki>eo:Aldous HU<B><whatever></B>XLEY<nowiki></B></a></nowiki> and <nowiki><a href="http://wordsonline.org/</nowiki>xx:Aldous_Hu<B><whatever></B>xley<nowiki>"><B></nowiki>xx:Aldous Hu<B><whatever></B>xley<nowiki></B></a></nowiki> should be used at database level and at all functions involved. Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 08:21, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC) :I made some tools and used them at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:eo:Vikipediisto:Gangleri/tests/projektoj/duobla_x-o"><B>:eo:Vikipediisto:Gangleri/tests/projektoj/duobla x-o</B></a> in order to save some time fixing the interlanguage links, verifying if all required redirects are there, have some useful links to google etc. 08:27, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC) ===<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:1512"><B>bugzilla:1512</B></a>=== *Halló Patrick, I reported some of these problems at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:1512"><B>bugzilla:1512</B></a> referencing to <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:eo:Vikipedio:Bugzilla_1512"><B>:eo:Vikipedio:Bugzilla 1512</B></a> (which includes a <a href="http://wordsonline.org/...#Newly_discovered_bugs"><B>:eo:Vikipedio:Bugzilla 1512#Newly discovered bugs</B></a> section) and here. *As soon as I read (and understand) some of the http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=pywikipediabot-users messages I will post a message for <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Sourceforge:projects/pywikipediabot"><B>sourceforge:projects/pywikipediabot</B></a>. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 12:35, 2005 Feb 12 (UTC ==Missing interlanguage links== * Halló Patrick, [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&lr=&newwindow=1&q=%2Bsite%3A.wikipedia.org+%22warnings%22+%22does+not+link+to%22 google &q=+site:.wikipedia.org+"warnings"+"does+not+link+to"] lists a lot of interesting pages. It seems they have been moved / deleted. Do you know anything about this? Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 09:49, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC) ** No, I don't know about this. It seems the missing interlanguage links have been added, I checked <a href="http://wordsonline.org/W:1930"><B>w:1930</B></a>.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 22:35, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC) * There are some "''warnfiles''" at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Image:Warnfiles-de-2005-02-17.zip.ogg"><B>meta:Image:Warnfiles-de-2005-02-17.zip.ogg</B></a>. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 18:06, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC) ==Reuse of template name== Since it wasn't linked from anywhere, I guessed you weren't using it any more and stole <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Template:An"><B>Template:An</B></a> for my own <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Experiments_on_footnotes"><B>Wikipedia:Footnote3</B></a>. If you still want it, feel free to steal it back. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Mozzerati"><B>User:Mozzerati</B></a> 20:49, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC) :That's OK, when I need a template like that again, I choose another name.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 22:20, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC) == The Netherlands == I had tried to move it before, but the Wiki would not let me. That's why I listed it at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/WP:RM"><B>WP:RM</B></a>. Thanks for moving it. 12:59, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC) == Michael Jackson == Hello, would you tell me why you reverted my edits to Michael Jackson? The way it was organised previously is ugly, off place, and there is information all over the place. Your revert helped nothing. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Páll"><B>User:PZFUN</B></a> 01:48, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC) :I am not saying that the whole edit is wrong, but, as I referred to in the edit summary, the section One More Chance was a strange mix of two former sections, apparently an error. Please fix that, then I look at your edit again.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 02:18, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC) == <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:65"><B>bugzilla:65</B></a> == * Halló Patrick! I just want to let you know about <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:1591"><B>bugzilla:1591</B></a> a duplicate of <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:65"><B>bugzilla:65</B></a>. See also <a href="http://wordsonline.org/User:Gangleri/tests/bugzilla:1691"><B>User:Gangleri/tests/bugzilla:1691</B></a>. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 15:09, 2005 Feb 26 (UTC) ** Both bug#65 and bug#563 are fixed now. See <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:65#c17"><B>bugzilla:65#c17</B></a> and <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:563#c11"><B>bugzilla:563#c11</B></a>. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 12:11, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC) == The Multimap scale bug == Is not as simple as you'd think. Multimap only supports a specific range of scales, so you cant use {}. So there needs to be a {}. -- <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Egil"><B>User:Egil</B></a> 11:59, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC) :That would be better, but at least it works now for the allowed scales, and for other scales you get the Multimap page for the given location anyway, and you just have to specify a scale then.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 12:21, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC) ::Fixed it now. -- <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Egil"><B>User:Egil</B></a> 16:34, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC) :::Thanks.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 08:41, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Arm"><B>Arm</B></a> image== Thanks for high-resolution photo of ... arm. I hope it stays up for a few days. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Sfahey"><B>User:Sfahey</B></a> 18:58, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC) I removed the photograph <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:Image:Demi2.JPG"><B>:Image:Demi2.JPG</B></a> from this article, mainly because an encyclopedia should have a more relevant picture to describe an arm but also because it is has no license attached. Regards, <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Thuresson"><B>User:Thuresson</B></a> 02:31, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC) :The first argument should imply that you replace it by a picture that you think is better.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 08:45, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC) == <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict"><B>:en:Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict</B></a> == * Helló Patrick! Please take a look at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict"><B>:en:Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict</B></a>. Would be happy to know your opinion and possible support about this. Thanks in advance! Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 14:26, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC) **Interesting. You can ask operators of these bots.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 20:35, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC) == <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:Wikipedia:Template:Invalidtitle"><B>:en:Wikipedia:Template:Invalidtitle</B></a> == * Helló Patrick! I wait for Brions comment regarding <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:Wikipedia:Template:Invalidtitle"><B>:en:Wikipedia:Template:Invalidtitle</B></a>. It seams that the actual version does not prevent creating these titles (containing %9A etc.) at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Latin-1"><B>Latin-1</B></a> wikis, see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/User:Gangleri/tests/Aš"><B>User:Gangleri/tests/Aš</B></a>. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 17:35, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC) == <a href="http://wordsonline.org/WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates"><B>Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates</B></a> == I have had some time to think, and see we may have different opinions on how maps should be treated. <strike>I really think the type of map pointers used for the <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Geography_of_the_Pitcairn_Islands"><B>Geography of the Pitcairn Islands</B></a> is bad for a good number of reasons. I have no intention of contesting what you are doing there directly. But I will just say that it is in direct opposition to my visions and goals about the treatment of maps on Wikipedia. I will thus oppose such templates being supported by the Geo coor project proper. They really distract me, and I also think they distract the vision, and the path to get there. (Don't misunderstand: It is very cool that people use the coor template in templates, and if they do, the articles will behave properly in terms of the concept of linking geograpical coordinates.) -- <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Egil"><B>User:Egil</B></a> 09:32, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)</strike> The above came out more like from a judge of <a href="http://wordsonline.org/World_Idol"><B>World Idol</B></a> -- give me some time, and I'll come up with something more constructive. -- <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Egil"><B>User:Egil</B></a> 10:20, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Okay.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 10:26, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC) Here goes: # Avoiding having direct links to external map sources, like Mapquest, was exactly one of the visions of the <a href="http://wordsonline.org/WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates"><B>Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates</B></a>. # I have thus moved your discussion about such mechanisms to the project talk page. # I am pretty convinced that direct links in articles to Mapquest et al needs to be placed under the "External links" heading -- <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Egil"><B>User:Egil</B></a> 08:39, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Character encoding == * Halló Patrick! Please see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/User_talk:R._fiend#Egill_Skallagrímsson"><B>User talk:R. fiend#Egill Skallagrímsson</B></a>. What character encoding is required? What do you recommend? Thanks in advance! Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 01:55, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC) : Thanks Patrick for <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Egill"><B>Egill Skallagrímsson</B></a>! I planed to work on "''stealth links''" (<nowiki><a href="http://wordsonline.org/(space)</font></B><nowiki>"><B></nowiki>foo<B><font size=\\"3\\"></B></a></nowiki> edit here <a href="http://wordsonline.org/_"><B>Talk:Egill Skallagrímsson</B></a> / edit<a href="http://wordsonline.org/_"><B>Talk:Egill Skallagrímsson</B></a> here), their usage at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:de:"><B>:de:</B></a> and possible other "''applications''" but I was puzzeled with a lot of other issues / "''just to knows''", most of them new to me see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/User:Gangleri/tests/unknown"><B>User:Gangleri/tests/unknown</B></a>. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 09:00, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC) == Did you know that ... == * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Special:Whatlinkshere/Image_talk:Al-Idrisi's_world_map.JPG"><B>Special:Whatlinkshere/Image talk:Al-Idrisi's world map.JPG</B></a> works fine and * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Special:Whatlinkshere/Image:Al-Idrisi's_world_map.JPG"><B>Special:Whatlinkshere/Image:Al-Idrisi's world map.JPG</B></a> <B>not</B>? * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Special:Recentchangeslinked/Image_talk:Al-Idrisi's_world_map.JPG"><B>Special:Recentchangeslinked/Image talk:Al-Idrisi's world map.JPG</B></a> works fine and * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Special:Recentchangeslinked/Image:Al-Idrisi's_world_map.JPG"><B>Special:Recentchangeslinked/Image:Al-Idrisi's world map.JPG</B></a> <B>not</B>? * See <a href="http://wordsonline.org/User_talk:SimonP#Image:Al-Idrisi's_world_map.JPG"><B>User talk:SimonP#Image:Al-Idrisi's world map.JPG</B></a>. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 15:33, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC) * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Nl:Overleg_gebruiker:Andre_Engels#no:,_nb:_and_skanwiki"><B>:nl:Overleg gebruiker:Andre Engels#no:.2C nb: and skanwiki</B></a> (maybe interesting for <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:Wikipedia:Interlanguage_links"><B>:en:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links</B></a> etc.) 08:52, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC) ** See feedback at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:nn:Wikipedia-diskusjon:Interwikilenkjer#skanwiki_-_abstract_or_brief_translation"><B>:nn:Wikipedia-diskusjon:Interwikilenkjer#skanwiki - abstract or brief translation</B></a>. Thanks 11:10, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC) == Redirects and inclusions - minor differences == * Halló Patrick, I have seen some strange coding and want to write about it. Please add the relevant information to the documentation and recommendations wherever applicable. * There are four (disambiguation) templates: # <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:nn:Mal:Peikar"><B>:nn:Mal:Peikar</B></a> includes <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:nn:Mal:Fleirtyding"><B>:nn:Mal:Fleirtyding</B></a> # <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:no:Mal:Peker"><B>:no:Mal:Peker</B></a> is included in <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:no:Mal:Disambig"><B>:no:Mal:Disambig</B></a> * What side effects are caused when you use an inclusion and not a redirect? # a redirect is identified as such without editing, an inclusion not # an inclusion will probably generate at least one additional line in the current (08:01, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)) MediaWiki software # anchors would work with inclusions but not with redirects # if the included title contains interlanguage links, this will cause conflicts and confuse bots # there is a significat difference ragarding inclusion in categories; redirects are not automaticaly included unless this is specified in the first line; this feature does not work at the moment (11:09, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)) see bugzilla:nnnn # ... * Personaly I prefer redirects. Please comment. Thanks in advance. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 08:01, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC) ::Yes, redirects seem better, see also <a href="http://wordsonline.org/M:Help:Template#Redirection"><B>m:Help:Template#Redirection</B></a>.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 10:31, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Changes to geographical coordinates == Due to further requirements and enhancements in the concept of coordinates, it seems changes will be necessary. Obsolete templates are being phased out, and in the long run, there may be a new mechanism. It should not be extra work, because as long as the existing templates are used, changes will happen automatically. -- <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Egil"><B>User:Egil</B></a> 18:11, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC) == inline links at commons: to nonexisting images == * Halló Patrick, I am surprised that inline links <B>at commons:</B> to nonexisting images does not show "''red''". Is this a bug? Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 21:06, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC) **They are as usual for me.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 21:23, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) **: It maight be that this is usual for you but links to most of the other namespaces behave differently. * Halló Patrick, Please take a look at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Inline_Linking"><B>meta:Inline Linking</B></a>. I was searching some documentation for a friend regarding inline linking (using a start colon) for interlanguage links, categories, images etc. # Where can I find that information? I searched <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Special:Allpages/Inl"><B>meta:Special:Allpages/Inl</B></a>, the Help and Meta namespaces. # <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Inline_Linking"><B>meta:Inline Linking</B></a> (corectly <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Inline_linking"><B>meta:Inline linking</B></a>) refers more to inline inclusion of images. This page is misleading. * Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 22:24, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC) **I made a brief overview <a href="http://wordsonline.org/M:Help:Link#Special_effects_of_links"><B>m:Help:Link#Special_effects_of_links</B></a>.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 23:34, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) **: Thanks Patrick! <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 00:00, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC) == "Sex in Advertising" rename == Hello Patrick, I am sorry but the impromptu change in name for this article seems to me uncalled for and harmful. First of all, the old title is a _technical term_ in the advertising business, describing precisely the argument of the article. Your new title takes the topical title and adds a subset to it, since nudity is certainly NOT mandatory in sex in advertising - it is simply one of the tools of the trade. Thus it confuses and reduces the reach of the old title. If you want an analogy, it is like taking an article titled "British Navy" and renaming it "Battleships and the British Navy." Furthermore, Yahoo returned 15600 hits for the old title and three hits for the new one. The net effect of this change is to make the article less accessible to users. Please undo it, because I do not know how. (PS I am posting this in the article discussion page as well.) <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Haiduc"><B>User:Haiduc</B></a> 12:08, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Since somebody argued about a nude picture that it was not sexual, I thought I make the title more general, and add a more objective criterion. But if others agree with you I will change it back.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 12:24, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) ::Patrick, quite aside from the fact that Beland and I had only begun to discuss the various aspects of that picture - making any changes by anyone untimely - you seem to be under the impression that the picture is in the article. It is not. It is on another website. So since there really is no imaginable justification for your otherwise well-intentioned action, and since there are a number of very valid arguments for its inappropriateness, please undo your name change, and then if there is a consensus for change I am sure it will be implemented. But please do not arbitrarily create a fait accompli and then set preconditions for restoring the status quo. It is still not clear to me how you can come into an article and arbitrarily change the title without according the other editors the elementary consideration of previous discussion and debate. I look forward to a long and interesting collaboration here with you, but I hope that it will be based on some sense of collegial give-and-take. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Haiduc"><B>User:Haiduc</B></a> 18:40, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) (copied from article discussion page) :::Thank you, Patrick. Please feel free to comment on anything. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Haiduc"><B>User:Haiduc</B></a> 02:27, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Tables == * Halló Patrick! Please take a look at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Dobermann/Temp"><B>Dobermann/Temp</B></a>. The surrounding text is to closed to the seccond and third tables. Is there a way to change this. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 05:41, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC) **I don't know whether there is an easier way, but for one way see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/M:Help:Table#Space_around_a_table,_image,_or_text"><B>m:Help:Table#Space around a table.2C image.2C or text</B></a>.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 21:31, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Thanks Patrick for the hint! I spend more then two hours without success. "''align=left''" is used at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Dobermann/Temp#Appearance"><B>Dobermann/Temp#Appearance</B></a>. The page has many errors depending of the window size and your bowser — I use Mozilla Firefox. * I did not manage to bring the surrownding text more away from the table: # [ no border] around the original table # [ border surrounding dummy column] — I have no idea how to suppress the border * Another problem is that the first table at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Dobermann/Temp#Appearance"><B>Dobermann/Temp#Appearance</B></a> will interfear regarding "''align=left''" with the next following table. Just resize the window to see this. * Do you have any clue what could be done here? Thanks for your efforts. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 18:41, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC) ::Please note the updated link above, did you try that?--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 01:37, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Thanks Patrick! I changed <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Dobermann/Temp#Appearance"><B>Dobermann/Temp#Appearance</B></a> succesfuly regarding "''Space around a table, image, or text''". * Regarding "''Another problem is that the first table at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Dobermann/Temp#Appearance"><B>Dobermann/Temp#Appearance</B></a> will interfear regarding "''align=left''" with the next following table. Just resize the window to see this.''" You can see this only if you have a very large monitor or you edit the section "''Appearance''" and make a preview in a large window. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 04:24, 2005 Mar 22 (UTC) **Use <nowiki><br style="clear:both"/></nowiki> before the second table. On en: we also have <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Template:-"><B>Template:-</B></a>, so you can use <nowiki></nowiki>.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 08:30, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) == unknown behaviour of templates == * Halló Patrick! I am involved in the translation of <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Wikimania"><B>meta:Wikimania</B></a> texts into Esperanto, see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Special:Allpages/Translation_requests/Wikimania"><B>meta:Special:Allpages/Translation requests/Wikimania</B></a>. * Please take a look at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:User:Gangleri/tests/Wikimania_01"><B>meta:User:Gangleri/tests/Wikimania 01</B></a>. I would like to know if this is a bug or not, if it is specific to <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:"><B>meta:</B></a> or not, maybe it is new since version 1.4.0. Thanks in advance for your efforts. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 21:32, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC) :This looks normal, <a href="http://wordsonline.org/M:Translation_requests/Wikimania/Template:Browse/Eo:"><B>m:Translation requests/Wikimania/Template:Browse/Eo:</B></a> is not in the template namespace but in the main namespace.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 01:36, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Thanks Patrick! I never tried an inclusion of objects from the <B>article</B> namespace (only from project or user namespaces). * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Hound"><B>Hound</B></a> exists; <nowiki></nowiki> generates . I learned somthing new. Thanks <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 04:28, 2005 Mar 22 (UTC) == Bad titles == * Halló Patrick! What is your opinion about <a href="http://wordsonline.org/User:Gangleri/tests/sister_projects"><B>User:Gangleri/tests/sister projects</B></a>? Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 02:22, 2005 Mar 24 (UTC) **The logic is not always clear.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 08:56, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC) **: Thanks Patrick! Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 11:11, 2005 Mar 24 (UTC) == Watchlist requests == hey, try to be patient with watchlists ;-) when you load 10 or 20 queries onto database, it is not going to work any faster, thanks! <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Domas_Mituzas"><B>User:Midom</B></a> 12:01, 2005 Mar 28 (UTC) :I rarely do more than one watchlist request and one or two other requests at the same time.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 08:57, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==Map== Have you looked at the enlarged versions of those maps? <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Jooler"><B>User:Jooler</B></a> :Yes, my comments refer to the full versions.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 11:16, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Wabi-sabi (source of text?) == Please see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Talk:Wabi-sabi"><B>Talk:Wabi-sabi</B></a>, but the gist of it is... I have (hopefully temporarily) removed a bunch of text from the <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wabi-sabi"><B>Wabi-sabi</B></a> article you created because it ''appears'' the text was copied verbatim from http://www.art.unt.edu/ntieva/artcurr/asian/wabisabi.html . It was good text, and maybe I'm mistaken, so if you can give some feedback, that would be great... --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Ds13"><B>User:Ds13</B></a> 06:14, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC) :At the time I copied it from http://www.capitancook.com/articles/index.php?WabiSabi (which does not have that content anymore) assuming that it was under GFDL. I don't know more about its copyright status.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 09:38, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC) ::Thanks for the response. I noticed you did include the [http://www.art.unt.edu/ntieva/artcurr/asian/wabisabi.html unt.edu] link when you created the article, and that's where the text ''appeared'' to come from when I (only recently) looked at the article. The old chicken and egg question...! Anyways, I guess better safe than sorry when it comes to GFDL... Cheers. --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Ds13"><B>User:Ds13</B></a> 18:04, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC) == some questions == * Halló Patrick! # <strike>I was surprised about <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Commons:User:Gangleri/tests#inline_links_to_image_namespace"><B>commons:User:Gangleri/tests#inline links to image namespace</B></a>. It seems that the image namespace behaves quite different, remember <a href="http://wordsonline.org/#Did_you_know_that_..."><B>#Did you know that ...</B></a></strike><br />we discussed this already at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/#inline_links_at_commons:_to_nonexisting_images"><B>#inline links at commons: to nonexisting images</B></a> # I am puzzeled about voting policy. Some Wikipedias require between others n edits (in the article namespace). I see no way to count the number of edits if a user worked some weeks on an article which is deleted later. Do you know better? ::Yes, that is a problem. These edits can only be seen by a sysop in the "deleted" page history.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 13:43, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC) # It seems that there has been a change regarding the "''watchlist''" functionality. If I watch "''foo''" which is moved to "''bar''" the last is no longer in my "''watchlist''". It seems to me that this is a change since the last version(s). Is this true or just a wrong "''feeling''"? ::I just tried it out, I moved a page I watch while logged in as another user: both the old and new name are on the watchlist of my normal username.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 14:13, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC) * Thanks in advance for all your efforts. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 13:31, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC) : Thank you very much! * I learned somthing new about duplicates and <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:1202"><B>bugzilla:1202</B></a>: See # <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:nl:Overleg_gebruiker:Andre_Engels#Categorie:Roemeens_district_and_bugzilla:1202"><B>:nl:Overleg gebruiker:Andre Engels#Categorie:Roemeens district and bugzilla:1202</B></a> # <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:ro:Discuţie_Utilizator:Gangleri#duplicats"><B>:ro:Discuţie Utilizator:Gangleri#duplicats</B></a> # [http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&user=&page= Deletion log at <B>nl:</B>] * Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 14:55, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC) == Template:Link == Why does <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Template:Link"><B>Template:Link</B></a> use external link style instead of internal link style? I think the template should contain: <a href="http://wordsonline.org/_{}"><B>{}</B></a> and thus produce a link in internal link style. The current form seems misleading to me as I would expect an external link to lead to an external site. However, I am reluctant to change it in case it is used somewhere which depends on or prefers it in its current form. (And there seems to be no way to tell where a template is used.) If the template needs to stay as it is then I will simply use Template:ilink for internal links in the internal link style. I do think the current form of Template:Link is interesting. Perhaps it could be moved to wlinkx ("a wiki internal piped link in external link style")? - <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Pioneer-12"><B>User:Pioneer-12</B></a> 22:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) :It is no longer needed due to a software update, earlier internal link style for a link depending on a parameter always led to the edit page.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 22:59, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::Ah, that explains things. And aha, "what links here" DOES show where a template is used (I could swear it didn't do that before.... but that was months ago.) I wonder if the link template is TOTALLY unnecessary. It seems like it might be useful for utility purposes. - <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Pioneer-12"><B>User:Pioneer-12</B></a> 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) :::I blanked it for now, but you are welcome to restore and use it, of course.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 23:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Some notes about redirects == * at the end of <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:uk:Обговорення_користувача:Gutsul#link_to_en:Wikipedia:Administrators"><B>:uk:Обговорення користувача:Gutsul#link to en:Wikipedia:Administrators</B></a> *# redirects to the special namespace do not work automaticaly *# redirects using "''standard''" names for namespaces as "''project''" <strike>behave</strike> "''displays''" differently in "''&action=edit''" and in "''&redirect=no''" * #REDIRECT [[foo] with one ending bracket workd * ... <!--- more to come ---> * Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 08:48, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC) == Some notes about interwiki / interlanguage links == * multiple prefixes <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:ru:en:User:Patrick"><B>:ru:en:User:Patrick</B></a> will not fail * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:ru:Google:Patrick"><B>:ru:Google:Patrick</B></a> generates a bad title * ... <!--- more to come ---> * Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 08:45, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC) == Some special templates == * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:it:Discussioni_template:Vuoto#msg:vuoto"><B>:it:Discussioni template:Vuoto#msg:vuoto</B></a> * ... <!--- more to come ---> * Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 19:32, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC) :I do not understand your point. Perhaps you are confused by an existing page containing the message about the non-existence of a page?--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 00:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) :: Yes, that's the point. People can insert the template at an arbitrary title and "''at the first view''" you can not see the difference. I tried to make such a "''empty''" page at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:de:"><B>:de:</B></a> but <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:de:MediaWiki:Noarticletext"><B>:de:MediaWiki:Noarticletext</B></a> is using many different templates. Finaly I continued to work on other items. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 08:35, 2005 Apr 26 (UTC) == Some notes about MediaWiki == <!--- more to come ---> * namespaces: strange behaviour at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:oc:Utilisator:Gangleri/tests"><B>:oc:Utilisator:Gangleri/tests</B></a> * Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 12:58, 2005 Apr 27 (UTC) ::So "wikipedia:" works the same as "project;" I tried it on fr:, there it also works like that, but on Meta it goes to w:en.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 21:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) * Thanks for the help Patrick! I was asked about the difference between <nowiki> und </nowiki>. I found [http://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&num=100&q=+site:wikipedia.org+localurle some links with google] but you know that the informations maight not be up to date. I asked "''Wegge''" at irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki but the answer was more "''It maight be that ...''". If he read this and verfies the code Wegge should answer here. : The only difference between localurl: and localurle: is that the latter calls the PHP function htmlspecialchars() on the output of the former. By experimenting with various combinations of localurl(e) and PAGENAME(E), I have been unable to spot the difference. I think the origin of localurle is buried somewhere in the more sinister past of the Parser. -- <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wegge"><B>User:Wegge</B></a> 09:30, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) :: <B>Reminder:</B> There are severel bugs <B>known</B> with <B>localurl</B>: ::# <nowiki>{{localurl:|foo}}</nowiki> will generate broken links for pages containing space(s); see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:1649"><B>bugzilla:1649</B></a> and use <nowiki>{{localurl:|foo}}</nowiki> ::# <nowiki>{{</nowiki>localurl:<font size="4""><B><nowiki></nowiki></B></font>bar|foobar<nowiki>}}</nowiki> will generate broken links, ; see <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:1649"><B>bugzilla:1649</B></a> (I used <nowiki>[{{localurl::Gangleri|action=history}} Th]</nowiki> == [{{localurl::Gangleri|action=history}} Th] earlier in my signature) and use <nowiki></nowiki> :: <B>Suggestion:</B> as long as the "''behaviour''" of localurl<font size="4""><B>e</B></font>: is not "''known''" I suggest to use <font size="4""><B>localurl</B></font>: and see what happens &ndash <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 17:23, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC) * Hopefully 2 -3 <B>actual</B> examples can be provided ** <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:MediaWiki:Mailnologintext"><B>:en:MediaWiki:Mailnologintext</B></a> &ndash <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:zh-min-nan:MediaWiki:Mailnologintext"><B>:zh-min-nan:MediaWiki:Mailnologintext</B></a> ([http://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org history]) *** <B>Notes:</B> **** <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:MediaWiki:Mailnologintext"><B>:en:MediaWiki:Mailnologintext</B></a> shows an example generating "''broken HTML links''" **** [http://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org oldid=11211] seems to be the example **** It seams that the settings of the current WikiMedia foundation projects are configurated that way that <B>MediaWiki:Mailnologintext</B> would never be displayed. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 17:40, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC) ** ... (here) ... ** See **# [http://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&num=100&q=+site:meta.wikimedia.org+localurle meta.wikimedia.org and <B>localurle</B>] – mainly pages as LanguageFoo.php **# <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Zh-min-nan:User:Gangleri/tests"><B>zh-min-nan:User:Gangleri/tests</B></a> * Please include some notes at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Meta:Variable"><B>meta:Variable</B></a> * Thanks to all for the help and support! Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 08:55, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC) : I've cited an actual example and put it above. I see no principled reason why one instance of Special: would use one while another would use the other. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/A-giau"><B>User:A-giau</B></a> 10:38, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Some notes about documentation == * Halló Patrick! Please follow [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Toiminnot:Whatlinkshere/Template:Documentation unknown documentation]. I would be happy if you log in to [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/ Nuka-Wiki] (verion 1.5). Just use the English user interface. Thanks in advance! Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 20:29, 2005 May 13 (UTC) * Please see [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Category:PAGENAMEE Category:PAGENAMEE]. PAGENAMEE is not equivalent to <underscore>PAGENAME</underscore>. I never made such tests before but you can see now that all (?) characters which are not 7bit ASCII are "''converted''" to UNICODE (?). Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 21:52, 2005 May 31 (UTC) == More questions == * Halló Patrick! This night I used <pre> – </pre> the first time. But at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Commons:User:Gangleri/sandbox/Common_errors"><B>commons:User:Gangleri/sandbox/Common errors</B></a> I have a problem with the "''layout''". Could you please give me a hand. The <B>OK</B> shuld have the same orientation as <B>not</B> OK. Thanks in advance! Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 17:30, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC) * Halló Patrick! I have a problem wich "''anchors''" which I experienced for quite a long time. Please do the following: # go at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:eo:Vikipedio:Trukoj/Plurnivela_uzado_de_ŝablonoj#plibonigoj"><B>:eo:Vikipedio:Trukoj/Plurnivela uzado de ŝablonoj#plibonigoj</B></a> # remember the text: "''Eble Brion povas plifaciligi la aferon jene:''" # edit the section "<B>plibonigoj</B>" # you will see "''<B>Redaktante Vikipedio:Trukoj/Plurnivela uzado de ŝablonoj (sekcion)</B>''" – this is the "<B>next</B>" section * The page is quite huge. The problem <B>may</B> relate to "''additional anchors''" defined <B>similar</B> to <font id="foo">. I searched " id" in the browser but could not find it. Please let a note here if you can identify the "''problem''". Thank you in advance for all your efforts. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 23:20, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC) * <B>FYI:</B> About <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:es:Usuario_Discusión:Pilaf#Live_Preview_again"><B>:es:Usuario Discusión:Pilaf#Live Preview again</B></a> ** Please note that "''<font id="Live Preview again" />''" does not give the same result / the same anchor as "''<font id="Live<font size="5"><B>_</B></font>Preview<font size="5"><B>_</B></font>again" />''". <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 10:52, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC) * <B>FYI:</B> <strike>rendering (?) problem at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:su:User:Gangleri/tests#interlanguage_links"><B>:su:User:Gangleri/tests#interlanguage links</B></a> == <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:2029"><B>bugzilla:2029</B></a></strike> <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 03:18, 2005 May 1 (UTC) * Halló Patrick! I worked on <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:531#c6"><B>bugzilla:531#c6</B></a> but I need to leave for some days. Could you please create some simple test examples regarding the usage of non 7bit characters in parameters in "''localurl''"? "''Örlög''" etc. fails as parameter in localurl:foo:{}. ::Seems to work fine, just do not use PAGENAMEE in localurl.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 08:32, 19 May 2005 (UTC) :::: [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Template:Task Template:Task] failed / fails for titles like "''foo:Örlög''", "''Image:Þórsmörk Júli 1996.jpg''", "''User:הגולם''", "''User:נעבעך גוט משוגע''", "''User:Горан Анђелковић''". :::: I replaced PAGENAMEE with PAGENAME in [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/mediawiki15c/index.php?title=Template:Linkset_here&action=edit Template:Linkset here] and [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/mediawiki15c/index.php?title=Template:Task_here&action=edit Template:Task here]. "''Linkset here''" now works properly but "''Task here''" does <B>not</B>. WHY? Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 12:02, 2005 May 19 (UTC) :::::: Thanks for your help and sorry for the delay. I made yesterday about 800 edits "''to feel familiar again''" I still have no general solution for [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Template:Linkset_here Template:Linkset here] (calling [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Template:Linkset Template:Linkset]). An extension "underscore" would help to fix the problem and simplify everything. * Would be happy to know if there are ways to simplify [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Template:Task Template:Task]. See also [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Toiminnot:Whatlinkshere/Template:Task] and [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Category:Todo]. Thanks in advance! Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 03:11, 2005 May 19 (UTC) :I added some comments to the template talk pages, it seems some templates and parameters are superfluous.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 22:00, 30 May 2005 (UTC) :: Thanks again! I answered at [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Template_talk:TASKLOCATIONTASKBODY] and [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Template_talk:TASKBODY/]. Yesterday I modified [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/mediawiki15c/index.php?title=Malline%3ATask&diff=5658&oldid=5374 Template:Task] mainly for the namespace "''special''" and because you may "''call''" / "''place''" the template whereever you like. I also changed priotity "''test''" to priotity "''sandbox''". Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 21:43, 2005 May 31 (UTC) :: I am aware that "''Template:Task''" is complex because of what I called "''portability''" which contradicts "''localisation''". It is based on "''generic namespace names''" used also at "''Template:Sort order''" and derived variants. Probably it makes no sense to "''force''" the usage of "''generic namespace names''" for users others then developers. It makes neither sense in Italian, Spanish etc. nor in Russian, Hindi etc. Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 22:18, 2005 May 31 (UTC) * Halló Patrick! I have written some notes about handling at [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Template:Task Template:Task] and will include bugzilla references later. Would be happy if you take a look at it. <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:it:"><B>:it:</B></a> wants to have the template transfered. I am especially interested about the idea having the "''todo pages''" and "''todo/priority pages''" in the template namespace. Thanks in advance and best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 12:33, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC) * Halló Patrick! I worked all night at a [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Feedback RTL test wiki]. I will look at your work tonight. Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 11:19, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC) : Both wiki's will be offline until this weekend. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 18:37, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC) === Template:Forced new line === * Halló Patrick! At "''Nukawiki''" I use <pre> :&nbsp; </pre> <B>generating:</B><br /> :  when used three times <B>generating:</B><br /> :  :  :  * to generate forced new lines mainly after templates. Before I experimented with "''<br clear="all" />''" and a number of empty lines or "''<br />''". I do not like it (press CTRL-A in the browser) but is / can be very efficient. Do you know another method / other methods? * I can see that this does not work here (<a href="http://wordsonline.org/User_talk:Patrick#Template:Forced_new_line"><B>User talk:Patrick#Template:Forced new line</B></a>). Please compare with [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/User:Gangleri/tests/sandbox#Template:Forced_new_line nukawiki:#Template:Forced new line]. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 17:33, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC) ::I do not know, I never need more than just a new paragraph.--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 22:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::: Thanks anyway! assumed: "''i suspect tidy is removing them''" – "''what is tidy?''" – "''cleans the xhtml output''". Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 23:04, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC) ==== using div ==== <pre> <div /> </pre> <B>generating:</B><br /> <div /> when used three times <B>generating:</B><br /> <div /> <div /> <div /> I hope(d) this works here. Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 01:58, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC) ==== FiverAlpha ==== compare with [http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=User:Gangleri/tests/sandbox#Template:Forced_new_line leuksman:User:Gangleri/tests/sandbox#Template:Forced new line] ==== <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Template:Forced_new_line_substitute"><B>Template:Forced new line substitute</B></a> ==== content is: <pre> {| height={}px |- | |   |} </pre> ===== test with <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Template:Forced_new_line_substitute"><B>Template:Forced new line substitute</B></a> ===== * <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Bugzilla:2390#c1"><B>bugzilla:2390#c1</B></a> – request for a defined "new line" after rendering <pre> Would be happy if this is a valid substitute. Have to test it at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:"><B>:en:</B></a>. Compare with [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/User:Gangleri/tests/sandbox#Template:Forced new line substitute nukawiki:User:Gangleri/tests/sandbox]. Best regards ~~~~ </pre> <B>generating:</B><br /> Would be happy if this is a valid substitute. Have to test it at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:"><B>:en:</B></a>. Compare with [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/User:Gangleri/tests/sandbox#Template:Forced new line substitute nukawiki:User:Gangleri/tests/sandbox]. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 09:37, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC) Thanks Patrick! Now we have something that works at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/:en:"><B>:en:</B></a> but *not* at Nuka-Wiki. Regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 17:34, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC) == list of items == * Halló Patrick! I will insert here some links. Best regards <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Gangleri"><B>User:Gangleri</B></a> | [ Th] | <a href="http://wordsonline.org/T"><B>:Gangleri</B></a> 01:49, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC) ** [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Betawiki:Variables#restrictions restrictions restrictions related to "history" and variable REVISIONID] == Wageningen == you have added to the <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wageningen"><B>Wageningen</B></a> page text about a penis-shaped memorial. so far as I can tell this is an urban myth. There is nothing on the official Wageningen sites: http://www.4en5meiwageningen.nl & http://www.wageningen.nl/internet/index.jsp. Do you have a source for this? - <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Plastic_rat"><B>User:Plastic rat</B></a> :[http://www.wageningen.nl/internet/content.jsp?objectid=6633&highlights=monument&highlightradio=ja], [http://www.wageningen.nl/internet/content.jsp?objectid=6217&highlights=monument&highlightradio=ja], [http://www.nos.nl/nieuws/artikelen/2005/3/23/defallusvanwageningen.html].--<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 21:25, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) Thankyou <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Plastic_rat"><B>User:Plastic rat</B></a> ==Conversion from a parameter expression to a rendered parameter or conversely== Hi! How can I "quote" the value of a parameter used in a template without generating wikicode? See [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Malline:Image] and [http://jadesukka.homelinux.org:8180/betawiki/Toiminnot:Whatlinkshere/Malline:Image]? Gangleri. :I do not think conversion from a parameter expression to a rendered parameter or conversely is possible. It seems that, unfortunately, for a demo you have to use two parameters, one with and one without nowiki tags, like <a href="http://wordsonline.org/M:Template:T_demo"><B>m:Template:T demo</B></a>. Regards, <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Patrick"><B>User:Patrick</B></a> 09:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC) ==<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Todo"><B>Template:Todo</B></a> test== <!-- PLEASE do not experiment with this template: copy the text to another template, and copy your output to this one when it works --> <!-- WARNING: several attempts have been made to add parameters to this template, but have failed. 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Thank you. --<a href="http://wordsonline.org/Alan_Au"><B>User:Alan Au</B></a> 05:55, 9 May 2005 (UTC) == TfD nomination of Template:Nu == <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Template:Nu"><B>Template:Nu</B></a> has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="http://wordsonline.org/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Nu"><B>Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Nu</B></a>. Thank you. — <a h