markup. --User:Eequor 11:42, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Icon == The icon is too much of a distraction. Granted, this is supposed to be a transient header, but it often isn't, and the talk pages tend to be disorganized, so drawing more attention than necessary isn't exactly the best thing to do... --User:Joy 11:00, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC) I actually find the icons to be very attractive and bring to point the dispute. I feel this icon (or similar ones) should be used on all notice templates (factual/neutral disputes) to make sure that the reader is warned and aware of the problem.--User:Bakerq 20:05, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC) The icon is an unnecessary distraction. The text is already in italics, and stands out plenty. It makes Wikipedia look unprofessional. --User:Yath 01:58, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC) Come on, we've gone over this already. No silly pictures on templates. I'll remove in a few days if there's no objection to doing so. User:Dysprosia 05:30, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC) :Yes, I object. I happen to like it. I would also like to know on what basis the word ''unprofessional'' is being applied here: no-one pays me to edit Wikipedia; I have no special qualifications; this word is too often used as a psuedo-synonym for "not to my personal taste". --User:Phil Boswell | User talk:Phil Boswell 08:21, Nov 3, 2004 (UTC) :: There are semantic issues with images that becomes undesirable. A stop sign and hand is a clear dissuasion to edit - contrary to the spirit of Wikipedia and as stated before becomes a distraction. We want to draw attention to our articles, not minor messages that will mean absolutely nothing to the casual reader. User:Dysprosia 11:05, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC) :Could it be replaced by one with the usual number of fingers? —User:Ashley Y 10:19, 2004 Nov 7 (UTC) :Fine, Phil. The icon is not to my taste, and I think it looks tacky and amatuerish. If it's not going to be removed, could someone with The Power please wrap the image in <span id='npov_icon'></span> so that it can be removed using my user CSS? �User:MikeX_(User_Talk:MikeX)">User:MikeX|User:MikeX (User_Talk:MikeX) 07:12, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC) :: Unfortunately we can't use <span> altogether, and using a <div id="stop_icon"> causes a line break after the icon. :( --User:Joy 11:29, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC) The current icon is over-large. Could its size be reduced to 16px or so? 04:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC) == Protected == Why is this template protected? —User:Ashley Y 00:59, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC) : Cf. Wikipedia talk:Template messages#Unlock_the_templates --User:Joy == Wording (moved from Template talk:DoubleDisputed) == Present NPOV wording on an article looks to a reader like it implies "this article is suspect and probably unreliable" User:FT2 :Maybe the NPOV tag should be revised. What do you think about:

: ''Our editors have not yet managed to bring this article to conform with Wikipedia's Wikipedia:NPOV dispute. Please help at its : talk:Template:NPOV''

(I removed NPOV disputes to avoid POV-ing this page...) User:Gadykozma 00:07, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC) :Thats not a bad idea, you know. Or:

''There is uncertainty between editors whether this article describes all points of view Wikipedia:NPOV dispute. Please evaluate statements carefully, paying attention to the quality of sources and conclusions until the article is refined. Please help at its : talk:Template:NPOV''

:What I prefer about that one is it actually explains what NPOV means, for the reader, which current NPOV templates don't. That means they know how to interpret it more acurately, not "is it neutral" but "does it describe all points of view neutrally". It also explains what the implication is - not "dont trust it" but "evaluate it more carefully". User:FT2 02:43, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC) ----- I think it should stress more the temporariness. How about :''The best way to represent this article in confromance with Wikipedia's WP:NPOV is a matter of debate at this time. Please help at the talk page'' ? User:Gadykozma 04:39, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC) :I see what you're trying, but I'm not sure its as effective in practice when you read it as a wiki user. Its not strong enough, that phrase "the best way to represent" it swings the other way and sounds a bit like "we arent sure of a few tweaks" where the issue may be out-and-out one sided POV. The 2nd wording above can capture both aspects without committing to either, and the temporariness, by describing it as ''"There is uncertainty between editors whether this article describes all points of view neutrally at this time"''. It then explains how the reader should handle that situation, by evaluating more carefully.. User:FT2 15:34, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC) Yes, maybe it was too soft. I think the proof of the pudding is the eating: if a new formulation will reduce "tag fights", its a good one. Otherwise, it isn't. Perhaps it will be enough to just add "at this time" to the current formulation, i.e :''The WP:NPOV of this article is Wikipedia:NPOV dispute at this time. Please see its talk page.'' (or help instead of see). User:Gadykozma 17:12, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC) :I'm all for explaining not just describing, if it can be done sensibly - it reduces potential for misuse, whilst also firming up and clarifying the state of the article for readers who (realistically) wont usually read WP:NPOV to find what the tag means in detail. But yeah, you got the test right, all right. User:FT2 01:27, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC) == Self-referential link == Why does the period at the end link back to the template? It looks very odd (pticly if the Talk: link is red and the period is blue) and is pretty inaccessible, imho. Given the template is protected, I can't see much reason for linking to it; if we want to link back, surely some rewording of "edit this template" would be better? — User:OwenBlacker 00:18, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC) == neutrality link == can we get the word neutrality in the template to be a link to Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view? a new user might be curious what on earth we mean by ''neutrality''? can't do it myself because of template protection. User:Wolfman 14:57, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC) == Style change proposal == To bring this in line with other message boxes (for example template:current) I propose to change this to: {{Message_box| id =NPOV| backgroundcolor =AntiqueWhite| image =Stop_hand.png| heading =The neutrality of this article is Wikipedia:NPOV dispute. Please see its : talk:.| message =See the Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View article for general guidelines}} I'll do this in a few days if there are no objections. User:Violetriga User_talk:violetriga 16:17, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC) *I think that the category should say: NPOV disputes User:132.205.45.110 21:06, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) In order to avoid problems listed at Wikipedia:Meta-templates considered harmful, please "subst:" this template so that it no longer directly depends on Template:Message box. -- User:Netoholic User talk:Netoholic 08:09, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC) == When should this template be used? (Request for comments) == This template currently says "The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page." Sometimes this template is used on pages without any recent discussion, or without discussion of what parts are NPOV and how it could be fixed. I think this would be confusing to users, and I don't think the tag should be used in those cases. So I'd like to propose the following rule of thumb: :''This tag should only be used on pages where "relevant discussion on the talk page" exists. If there has been no such active discussion on the talk page in the last month, the tag should be removed.'' What do you think? – User:Quadell ^{(User_talk:Quadell) (Wikipedia:Image sleuthing)} 23:00, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC) : I thought that was implicitly agreed upon already :) You could perhaps suggest considering Template:POV check after such a removal, because sometimes non-neutral language lingers after fixing specific instances someone explicitly complained about, and POV check is meant to address those. --User:Joy 00:00, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Please unprotect == I believe this should be editable by anybody. We can deal with vandalism just fine. Thanks. �User:Cantus…User talk:Cantus 21:28, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

'''The Wikipedia:NPOV dispute and Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute of this article : talk:.

This was put together in cases where Wikipedia:Template madness runs rampant, etc. Please comment on it at its talk. Thanks. -User:Stevertigo|User_talk:Stevertigo 19:13, 18 May 2005 (UTC) == Please reference the disputed article's history in this template, too. == The POV/NPOV template mentions the talk page as a source of further data when a dispute exists. The template should also explicitly mention the article's own history as a source of insight for the content of an article under dispute. The talk page is helpful, but the history is at least equally helpful, too.--Un">User:UnfocusedUser talk:Unfocused 14:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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