JesseW

Current UTC date and time: , (UTC) *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Recentchangeslinked&target=User%3AJesseW%2FImportantWatchlist Important Watchlist] *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Recentchangeslinked&target=User%3AJesseW%2FMaintain_Watchlist Maintain Watchlist] =JesseW's User page= Hello. I'm astonished and impressed with the quality of Wikipedia. I hope to help out, probably as some kind of [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiFaeries WikiFaerie]. I'm also involved with various other Wiki's. I'm a Los Angeles native, currently on leave from Reed College, in Portland, Oregon, USA. Besides working on Wikipedia, I enjoy contra dance, hack (technology slang), juggling, and science fiction, as well as various political work. I've also taken aikido from the [http://www.vjcc.com/Aikido/aikido.htm Venice Japanese Community Center] and the [http://www.oregonki.org/ Oregon Ki Society]. You may find [http://netwood.net/usr/jessw/battlestar_galapagos.html this] amusing, if you are familar with SF TV shows. Hm. As of ~~22:26, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)~~ 08:49, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC) I have 1929 edits.(via [http://kohl.wikimedia.org/kates-tools/count.action?user=JesseW&dbname=enwiki Kate's Tools] <shrug>. Oh. ==Other WikiMedia User pages== * Wikt:User:JesseW * Wikisource:User:JesseW [[Image:Weinstein,jesse,2003.jpg|thumb|250px|User:JesseW, juggling.]] __TOC__ ==Useful links== * Wikipedia:Mirrors * Special:Newpages ==My subpages== *User:JesseW/ImportantWatchlist *User:JesseW/Full mirror list *User:JesseW/Maintain Watchlist *User:JesseW/BookmarkletsUniversal - A list of all the bookmarklets available on the web(pretty complete as of now). *User talk:JesseW/Children of Category Japan list ==To Do== *Make The_Black_Crook from the source I found. ==Interesting ideas== *I found a great book called the Encyclopedia of Fire ISBN 1-57356-302-1 ; I would like to pull a lot of the facts in it and put them into Wikipedia. It has articles on the history of big fires that are facinating. *I've sent emails to the makers of the DEEP THOUGHT: sightings of 42 page asking if they would release their stuff under GFDL so it could be improved on Wikipedia; I hope to hear back from them. If they say yes, it will be considerable work to import and Wikifiy the pages, and then start work on finding references, cross links, and page numbers. Fun. *Add a picture of the collapse of the Santa Monicia Freeway in the Northridge Earthquake to the approriate article. 11:05, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC) *Work on a series of wikipedia pages on various commodities (apples, apparel, computer chips, etc.) listing where they are made, who makes them, how they are made, and who owns aspects of the above (means of production, intellectual property, consumers). 23:16, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==Funny!== *:m:Web_Encyclopedia_Song *User:ClockworkTroll/Name_the_Admin_Candidate ==Good, interesting pages== *:m:James_explains_law - ''More than you thought there was to know about Copyright law'', or ''Have you read the GFDL lately?'' *Wikipedia:The_Wikipedian's Prayer *m:Wikistress; Just because it's not listed on Wikipedia. *Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia - an excellent page *1 E2 m I want to look at this more. User:JesseW 05:06, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC) *:Image:San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg - A very good image I first found on the Wikipedia Quarto, and which I tracked down here after asking the person who submitted it to meta... User:JesseW *meta:MPOV - a good list of symptoms of wikipedia kooks. ==WikiOrganizations I support== *Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia Namespace *Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax *Wikipedia:WikiProject Kindness Campaign *Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check ==My various Wiki software tools== === Wiki-link bookmarklet === See Wikipedia:Wiki-Link Game. I've lost. ;-) It skips redlinks and external links. Note: you need to change "thenum" to set it to another number than 5. Written by me on 10:07, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
javascript:void((function () {thenum=5; m=0; 
z=document.getElementById("bodyContent").getElementsByTagName("A"); for 
(n=0;n
=== Category Browsing Tools ===
I've written two python scripts that together let you browse through the Wikipedia catagory system and generate pictures of the network.  They can be downloaded [http://www.reed.edu/~weinstej/wikipediacatbrowse.html here].  Please try them out, and complain if you can't figure out what they do, or if they break.  Also, any patches or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. User:JesseW 11:59, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If you wish to request a graph or textual list of the children and/or parents of a category, please ask on my Talk page.  I'm happy to do it; I'll create them, upload them, and add them to this list(and let you know on ''your'' talk page. ;-) ) User:JesseW 02:51, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have now updated the code.  It now makes nicer looking text output and has more documentation. User:JesseW 23:28, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Forth release.  Now the text output uses differnt headings for different depths. User:JesseW 05:16, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Examples:
*The parent's of :Category:Bristol: :Image:Bristol_parents.png
*The children of (to 30 levels deep) :Category:Japan: :Image:japan_category_graph.png (see also the text version of the information, User_talk:JesseW/Children_of_Category_Japan_list.)

=== Bookmarklet ===
Wrote a bookmarklet to hide entries on my watchlist in which I am the last, listed, editor. 

Note!! The current version of the script automatically identifies the user name, and the number of days displayed in the watchlist.

I release this script under the revised BSD license.  

Sorry I couldn't get it to show up as a link.  I'm working on it. User:JesseW 09:22, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

====Versions====
*v2: Automatically identifies your userName
*v3: Automatically identifies the number of days set to display in your watchlist.  This should also fix the bugs where it erases other bits of screen.  Please let me know.
====The code====
(You may need to copy the wikitext, not this text.  Sorry.)


javascript:void((function () {userName=document.getElementById%28%22contentSub%22%29.innerHTML.match%28/%22%28.%2B%29%22/%29%5B1%5D; q=document.getElementsByTagName(%22ul%22); for (n=0;n%22+z[x].innerHTML+%22\n%22}}; q[n].innerHTML=r}}})())

====Bugs====

User:Angela says that on Firefox 0.9.3 it erases the navigation bar rather than the watchlist entries.
User:Angela says that on Wikia: it erases the sidebar rather than the watchlist entries.
:I suspect both of these are because the bookmark edits all the <ul> lists in the document, and on Firefox or Wikia: it is picking up such lists in the wrong place.  I will test it on these places and see if the bug shows up for me.  If you also see the bug, or have any information about it, please add your comments on the User_talk:JesseW page, and I'll update this list. User:JesseW 03:53, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I also use firefox but my copy erases both the bar and the watchlist entries...nice program though. BrokenSegue\">User:BrokenSegue">User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue\">User:BrokenSegue 23:51, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:I think both of these bugs should be fixed now.  I'm identifying "ul" lists to change by their class="special" attribute now.  Please let me know if this is fixed. User:JesseW 10:33, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

===Emacs defun===
====wiktionary-get-page====
 (defun wiktionary-get-page (title) (interactive "M") "" 
  (progn 
    (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create title))
    (erase-buffer)
    (insert (shell-command-to-string
	     (format "wget -q -O - \"%s?title=%s&action=edit\""
		     "http://en.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml"
		     title)))
    (goto-char (point-min))
    (search-forward "") 
    (delete-region (point-min) (point))
    (search-forward "") (setq pos (- (point) 11))

    (search-forward "wpEdittime")  
    (setq et (buffer-substring (- (point) 18) (- (point) 32)))
    (message "Edittime is: %s" et)
    (delete-region pos (point-max))

    (wikipedia-mode)
    (defvar wikipedia-edittime nil "*") 
    (set (make-local-variable 'wikipedia-edittime) et)))

====wiktionary-submit-page====
Warning!  Do not use this unless you know it's not broken in some subtle way.  It is only a first draft and probably is broken or does something bad, or at best, fails to work.  So be careful.  And send me improvements.  User:JesseW 05:16, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 (defun wiktionary-submit-page 
  (title content summary edittime 
	 &optional username password minor watch section) "" 
	 (http-post 
	  (concat "http://en.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=" 
		  (http-url-encode title 'iso-8859-1) 
		  "&action=submit")
	  `(("wpTextbox1" . content) 
	    ("wpSummary". summary) 
	    ("wpSave". "Save page")
	    ("wpSection" ."") ("wpEdittime" . edittime))
	  'iso-8859-1))

==Awards==

==Creative Commons License==

==Missing articles project template==

==Notes on thing's I've already done==
(Things on here may be removed whenever I feel like it.  The'll be available from history...)

*Cleaned about 25 items off the :Category:Wikipedia articles needing their fiction made clear list.  It's empty now. Hah. User:JesseW 08:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

*Make Billet from the source I found. - Finally done.  Just a tiny job... User:JesseW 07:14, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

*Mathias Maul, the author of the Ultra-Complete Index of HHGttG, has put it under GFDL.  I've added The_Ultra-Complete_Index_to_the_Hitch_Hiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy; now the Wikification can begin. (Moved to done on 23:16, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC))

*Organized the various lists of sources for articles, and made a template listing the actual pages with content. The template is Template:Article_resources.  Good stuff. User:JesseW 11:03, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

*Changed my "nickname" so it references a staus template, which I can use to post messages on every page I sign.  Unless I developer contacts me and says I'm personally causing major slowdown of the entire wikipedia, I'll keep it. User:JesseW  none 13:43, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:Removed, as I just read a thread on the VP saying it was a terrible idea. ;-) User:JesseW 14:03, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)JesseW

               



=Archiving policy=
I will remove discussions on here that I feel are done with when I feel like it. I will mark such changes with the following summary:archiving (see history if you want to put stuff back)  If you object, or feel that I've removed stuff I shouldn't, feel free to re-add it from the history.  If you then comment on it mentioning that I've removed it, and asking me not to, I won't remove it again.  If that kind of stuff gets beyond 32k, I'll move it to archive page(s), each of about 32k in size, and put links to them here. User:JesseW 09:43, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
=The actual page=
== HHGG ==

You've added a link to the inexistent article about your upcoming website.
You shouldn't have done that, because:

# Do not add references unless something is done.
# Your site should only be included as an article if it was REALLY important and relevant.
# You shouldn't make it an external link either, for the above reasons.
# Wikipedia is NOT a web guide. Don't promote your websites here


:User:Kieff, thanks for being so vigilant, however you are in error about some things:
:*The Index is not my website, nor is it created by me.
:*It is a very useful tool for fans of HHGttG, and quite relevant to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy page.
:*I have recieved permission from the author for it to be under GFDL, thereby ready for the Wikipedia.
:*Having the Index on Wikipedia will allow it to be updated, it will allow editors to add new entries, and it will allow editors with different editions of the book to add information about their edition to the index.
:That is why I felt that it would be both encyclopedic, and generally useful.
:Regarding creating a reference before creating the page, I had understood that I should create the reference first, rather than creating an orphaned page, and then linking it to related pages.  If I misunderstood, I am sorry.
:Finally, User:Kieff, please sign your comments on talk pages, especially if you are telling someone off.

::Sorry about the signature, guess I forgot. About the page, if you really think it's a REALLY relevant link, you can add it, but it'll be verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did). But if it's like that, we should probably include MJ Simpson's [http://www.planetmagrathea.com Planet Magrathea] site on the external links. User:Kieff — User:Kieff | User talk:Kieff 05:59, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
:::Since I'm waiting for a final conformation regarding GFDL status for the Index, I added it as an External Link in the meantime.  I also added Planet Magrathea, as you suggested. ;-)  What did you mean "verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did)"?  I'm sure other editors will look at the changes and some may fall into the same misunderstandings as you did, but, AFAIK there is no "verification", just many eyes.  Thanks again for your vigilance.  User:JesseW 06:17, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::::When webpages are linked to in Wikipedia, people usually check how relevant it is (using Google or Alexa ranks and such), and see if the addition of it in Wikipedia is or is not needed~, or if it is some sort of self promotion and etc. User:Kieff — User:Kieff | User talk:Kieff 06:43, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
:::::I see.  Thanks!  I didn't know about that before. User:JesseW 06:47, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

== tag! ==

I'm just leaving a note here so you could find my purdy pictures again. [http://forums.beyondunreal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84549] [http://forums.beyondunreal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84550]
:User:BesigedB 17:42, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

==Bookmarklet feedback==
Hi. Thanks for letting me know about the new bookmarklet. It works with Firefox 0.9.3 in the default skin, but not with my modified User:Angela/monobook.css. User:Angela 21:20, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

==Comma, stress, etc.==

Thanks for your nice note. That was thoughtful. :) User:Maurreen 04:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

==Open task template==
You edits cluttered up the template and made the Community Portal screw up on some browsers. Neutrality\">User:Neutrality_(User_talk:Neutrality)">User:Neutrality|Neutrality\">User:Neutrality (User talk:Neutrality) 22:00, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
:I'll respond on your Talk page. User:JesseW 22:04, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
::Check the template now. Neutrality\">User:Neutrality_(User_talk:Neutrality)">User:Neutrality|Neutrality\">User:Neutrality (User talk:Neutrality) 22:19, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
:::Excellent.  Thank you. User:JesseW 22:20, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Important Watchlist ==

Could you please explain how you made the important watchlist page, Thanks. --User:Ankur 20:44, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:I made a list of important pages on a subpage of my user page, clicked on "Related changes", copied the URL, edited my user page and copied the URL into a single bracket form with the "Important Watchlist" label.  Does that explain it? User:JesseW 00:39, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
::Sure it does, thanks :-) --User:Ankur 04:47, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Tony Capizzi ==

Thanks for the heads up. I did find one inaccuracy -- Capizzi won in 2004; apparently I had written that he had lost. No matter, I've fixed that error. Further discussion on the Capizzi talk page. User:Acsenray 15:29, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)


== Mirrors and Forks ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/GFDL_Compliance

So is there a quick way of doing this?

also: we should put a note on the existing pages outlining the move

also2: What do you think about the talk pages can I just move the content to the right section (on link above) and then delete it
~~---- (message from User:Davelane)


Thanks very much for the compliment -- I'd still like to have a list of checks as its still not easy to work out what is high low etc -- I will say more Wikipedia_talk:Mirrors_and_forks#Standard_questions --User:Davelane 13:20, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Housekeeping medal==

Hi, Jesse. I gave you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Services. User:Maurreen 03:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

:You're welcome! You deserve it. User:Maurreen 05:09, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Chatham Dockyard==

I notice your tidying-up exercise on the above article: good job, thanks (hope that doesn't sound patronising!!!). I do wonder, however, whether the people named towards the end really need separate articles opened on each one? I checked Sir Charles Bullen against Google and there is a perfectly good and comprehensive life history of his there. Presumably a Wikipedia article would just copy it wholesale - a bit of a waste of effort perhaps? Could there not be a ref to that in the External Links?

14:11, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:Thanks for your appreciation. (no, it doesn't sound patronising ;-) )  Regarding the wikilinking of the people near the end, I responded on the Talk:Chatham Dockyard. User:JesseW 02:47, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Bookmarklet==

It doesn't seem to do anything at all now in Mozilla 1.7.2 or Firefox 1.0. I tried on various wikis with and without my stylesheets but it appeared to have no effect on my watchlist. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 06:43, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
:I assume there were items on your watchlist for which you were the most recent contributor?  If not, it wouldn't remove anything. Otherwise, I'm stumped.  I don't know why it wouldn't work. User:JesseW 06:48, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Unidentified weapom ==

Sorry, You asked where I got the picture [Image:Unidentified weapon 2004.jpg] it came from some London anarchitect/antiglobalist activists/pranksters that photographed it in a trade show. I think it is a real weapon, like some kind of robot machine gun or autoshooting sniper rifle or something.  It was photo'd at a weapon fair in London, like for big military contractors to push their pretty new death machines. Hey, do some juggling and put it on one of the juggling pages.  I will if you will. User:Pedant 21:20, 2004 Dec 2 (UTC)
:Thanks.  I'll take you up on that(the juggling); I'm not sure when I'll have the time, but it's a good idea. ;-) User:JesseW 03:03, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== WikiProject Olympics ==

Hi Jesse, the project is dormant as far as I know. I still intend to do some work on it, but there's so many things to do... I do believe right after the Athens Games there was some activity, but I don't know the user names right now. User:Jeronimo 08:07, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:Well, as you took the time to respond, I suggest you move it back to the Active section; active just means that anybody (including you) still cares enough about it to watch the page or otherwise notice it.  The vast majority of WikiProjects don't have even that ammount of attention.  

It's possible that some of the one's that were inactive last month(when I first checked) have been worked on and havn't been added to the active list because their workers didn't remember the list; it would be good to put a short message on all the inactive projects notifying them of this (I didn't because there were too many the first time through)

Glad your still paying attention to it, and thanks for all your work! User:JesseW 08:14, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)


== Procrastination by fellow Reedies ==
Jesse! Good to see you here, though I haven't seen much of you IRL this semester. I admire your resolve in practicing "wiki-abstinence" until Xmas break. Would that I had the same self-control. :D -User:Phthoggos 08:26, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

== WikiProject Historical Figures ==

Hi JesseW,

the project is still going on, albeit not very actively right now. I don't know whether to call it ''active'' or not - is there an official policy? I am currently the only member, and activated the project because I saw an active link without content which matched what I do most of the time in Wikipedia.

Best, User:Ravn 13:08, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:If you are still interested in getting more people to work on it, it's active.  The only reason I seperated the original, gigantic list, was that so many of the projects didn't seem to even have their founder still paying attention to them.  Since you are still are(witness this message), the project is active.  Feel free to re-add it to the list(and make some minor change to the main page so I(or whoever checks) doesn't accidentally remove it in a month. ;-) Thanks! User:JesseW 18:14, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== VFD ==

Whoops, soory. Got sidetracked. :) User:Neutrality/^{User_talk:Neutrality}">User:Neutrality|User:Neutrality/^{User talk:Neutrality} 00:45, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
:No problem.  Glad I reminded you. User:JesseW 00:49, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

----
I rv-ed yr removals from VfD mainly bcz of cases i have seen where an admin responds with "this doesn't belong here, it's a Speedy", deletes the nominee but leaves the entry, and another admin undeletes it, saying it's not a CSD.  Your measure would make handling these misjudgements about what "everyone would agree is a speedy" much more work to take care of. And a few red links are no big deal; anyone who prefers to trust all the admins to judge these right can skip reading the corresponding debates as soon as the see the red link. --User:JerzyUser talk:Jerzy 01:13, 2004 Dec 5 (UTC)

==Random Pages Test==

Oh, I'm sure we'll always have plenty of pages that are just starting out - but that doesn't mean we can't try to get as many of the bad ones as we can under control. :)
:Absolutely!  I hope you didn't think I meant that it was a bad idea to make a list of 10 random page entries and fix them.  That's a great idea.  
It's just the interpretation that we won't be ready for "distribution" until 10 random pages don't bring up a bad one that I disagree with.  I think the majority of pages on the wiki will always be bad pages. User:JesseW 01:17, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I haven't done much with that so far - but I'd like to turn it into a bit of a group project, in an attempt to eliminate a few of the article problems that our critics might whine about. User:Ambi 01:06, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==WikiProjects==
Thanks for cleaning this up. You're a great Fairy. Uh... you know what I mean. -User:Phthoggos 00:11, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
:heheheheh. You're welcome. User:JesseW 21:22, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The fountain pens page was rather defunct.  I don't have too much spare time on my hands, so I rarely get around to it.  Stylographic interest seems to be waning, and the project wasn't doing too well anyway.  The inactive page was probably the best page for it.  Thanks.

==My suggestion for change to deletion policy==

Thanks for your comment. I would like to "write it up" but I don't know where. What would be the appropriate forum for making a proposal?User:Dr Zen 23:52, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==The Humungous Image Tagging Project==
Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for ''at at'' and ''the the'', non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --User:Tagishsimon User_talk:Tagishsimon
:Thanks, but I've already noticed it and fixed 29 of them. ;-) Wiki-nerds unite. User:JesseW 01:11, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Village Pump archives format change ==

Hi JessW, I wanted to let you know that I've changed (for the better I hope) the format of the Village Pump archives slightly.  I hope you don't mind ;-) User:Paul August 15:06, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

By the way, I forgot to mention, what a good job you've been doing there ;-) User:Paul August 15:08, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

:Looks great.  Took me a sec to figure it out, as I put the listings at the bottom so they would be easier to find, but actually, your way makes the ToC clearer and is generally better.  Good job. User:JesseW 19:46, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, glad you like it. User:Paul August 19:54, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

==Districting==
I've got an idea that I'd like beta-tested before I brave the cold bright light of the Village Pump with it. You were pretty positive about a earlier version of it, so I'm going to you first. Here's the User:Crazyeddie/Districting. Let me know what you think on the talk page, and I'll throw those comments in if/when I go to the Village Pump with it. User:Crazyeddie 00:35, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:The termanology is a real turn-off, IMPO.  We are not a country - we don't own land, we don't make rules that apply to living human beings physical existence - therefore, we don't need or have a government, democratic or otherwise.  I think using the project/company metaphor is a much better idea.  Now, as for the specifics of the ideas, rather than the terminology.  The biggest idea in here is the concept of Moderators.  Where did that come from?  I didn't think we had any Moderators.  Also, it is mentioned that pages in a "district" would be in some way controlled by the officials of the district - admitting the existance of formal control would be a big change, and seems rather unwiki-like, esspecially when clothed in the language of a physical government with temporal power.  You're biting off a rather large bite here.  I suggest you rephrase the language to use project  rather than goverment metaphors and ask again.  Good luck! User:JesseW 23:08, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not much of a salesman. The Moderator bit was just a mixup in terminology. What I call Moderators are called Administrators or Sysops here in the Wikipedia. This is confusing to me, because I would use those terms to describe what Wikipedia calls developers. 

"Formal control" is a bit strong of a word for what I had in mind. I would think "policing" or "monitoring" would be a better term. All contributors already do this, admins more than others. All I had in mind was dividing the Wikipedia up into smaller, easier to manage, sections, and then encourage contributors who are the most likely to understand the subject matter to monitor the pages for errors and vandalism. I probably could have put it better. At any rate, I think I'll remove that portion of the proposal, along with anything else not directly related to the central thesis. If these spinoff uses of the districting concept are as obvious as I think they are, then others will implement the idea without the need for my intervention. If the spinoffs aren't that obvious, then I can put the matter before the Legislature - if and when it comes about. Either way, no need to add more points of debate to what is already going to be a controversial proposal.

I've been trying to find some quote - something to the effect that in certain circumstances, community is indistinguishable from government. Regardless, I shouldn't assume everybody believes that. I'll rewrite the intro, using the idea that the Wikipedia is a Benevolent Dictator for Life like a normal open source programming project. From there, I'll work to this idea. 

I'll also limit the mandate of the Legislature to a narrow field, namely, to give community approval for potentially disruptive changes to the underlying software of the Wikipedia. For example, VfD reform, spellchecking, and things like this proposal. If the idea works for that, then that mandate might be expanded, with the blessing of the Community, the Legislature, and Jimbo. I'll also try to make it clear that the Legislature would be an additional option - not a full replacement for the current system. After all, the only power the Legislature would have is moral authority.

Once I get a polished final draft, how would you recommend I go about getting approval/consensus for the idea? User:Crazyeddie 22:26, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

::No worries on the terminology mixup.  "Administrators" is not a great word for the job, anyway (some prefer "custodian" or "janitor").

::Regarding the revised idea, I agree that you should keep it as stremelined as possible, and that if the expansions make sense to the community, they'll happen.  In fact, I think you should divide it into two ideas: 
::# dividing article pages into "districts" (or, in my terms: "interest areas") and providing a place for people to publically announce they are focusing on those pages.
::# vesting elective power in those groups (the "place for people to...") in order to elect a body with the combination powers of the Arbitration Comittiee, VfD and RfA.

::I think the first proposal won't meet with too much objections, although I may be wrong, but I think the second, especially if combined with the first, will generate a lot of objection.

::As for where to go to get consensus, look a the proposal for Preliminary Deletion, look at the Survey's pages, start a discussion on the village pump, of course.  Things like that.  User:JesseW 03:18, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

That's more or less my plan. This isn't the first mad idea I've tried to get implemented, so I'm going to try to slowly build support for the idea. My plan to implement it: Firstly, I'm going to try to recruit a few supporters. This will hopefully help build consensus later when I "go public". Also, that will help get the kinks in both the idea and the presentation worked out. (Hopefully you're supporter number 1. I'm going to try for 10.) 

Then I'll put the entire plan, both parts 1 and 2, on the proposal, policy, and technical forums, in that order. That might be a bit much, but this is a pretty radical idea and needs as much debugging as possible. Doing it that way will make part #1 more controversial, but it will help lay the groundwork for building a consensus for #2. (Actually, I think Birds-of-a-feather idea by itself isn't controversial ''enough'' - it would be hard to get a developer's attention long enough to get the work done! I think the Representative districts will end up a bit large for my liking, if so, I think I'll try to get smaller BOAF groups formed, after I get done with the Legislature idea.) 

Assuming I haven't found one already by that point, my next job would be to find someone able and willing to implement part #1. That part's non-controversial enough not to need further consensus gathering, at least IMO. Getting the actual work out of the way will clear a major hurdle for getting consensus. After districting is set up and debugged, I would then try to get consensus for part #2, starting from the Village Pump and probably winding up in that survey area. It would be nice to get Jimbo's rubber stamp also. 

I think I'll keep the proposed Legislature focused on approving possibly messy software changes. IMO, that's the area where the need for representative government is the greatest. If it's a success there, then I think it will naturally take over other roles. I'll also try to keep the proposed plan as streamlined as possible. Unfortunately, I think my revised intro will be considerably longer. User:Crazyeddie 07:21, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Incidently, any idea what the "population" of en.wikipedia is? Assume a "person" as being roughly defined as "non-bot, non-banned login with activity in the last 30 days". I was also wonder how many of those have over 100 edits. User:Crazyeddie 07:24, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Requested Moves: Contra Dance==
User:Tkinias and I have agreed to a compromise regarding your request to move contradance to contra dance Wikipedia:Requested moves.  Redirecting the alternative forms to the most common US and UK usage, ''contredanse''.  We hope you would agree, and if you do, it can be done almost immediately. —User:ExplorerCDT 20:46, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:I've responded on the Requested moves page.  It's fine by me. User:JesseW 22:44, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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==X Degrees of Separation==

Hi, I never expected a reply to my idea!  I am kinda nervous.  Want to help me set up a page?  Because a system of keeping track of things will have to be thought of.  Last night before I went to sleep I thought of another idea too.  If someone who were intimate with such things could create a script or something that would follow the start to the goal by determining the Nth link of a page.  If there were such a script then countless numbers of pages could be traversed over longer periods – even multiple scripts following multiple pages – of time and the result would reveal true statistics into the nature of Wikipedia! User:Jaberwocky6669 18:27, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
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== Can I have a second opinion? ==

Would you be kind enough to look over Redbourn and see if you think it still requires the cleanup tag. I did a huge re-write and fact check and, although it still needs work, I'm not sure of cleanup is any longer appropiate (see what happens when you post in leftovers :->). Cheers. User:Icundell 12:44, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:It looks great.  I've taken off the cleanup tag, but I didn't remove it from Leftovers.  Would you do that? User:JesseW 02:57, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Category Browsing Tools?==

To be honest, I don't know how to use what you've created. Would they be useful in creating a list showing the structure of everything under :Category:Japan, and how do I use them? Or, do you know of something that I can use for that purpose that doesn't require Python? User_talk:GK">User:GK|gK User talk:GK 07:02, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:Thanks so much for giving me feedback on them.  Don't worry about not knowing how to use them, I havn't documented them very well yet.  If you have any other questions to start me off, please let me know- it'll help  we figure out what to write.  Yes, they can create a list showing the structure of everything under category:Japan; I'm making one as I type, and it's :Image:japan_category_graph.png. (The text list that was produced while comming up with the list is /Children of Category Japan list.)  I don't know of anything else that does this, or I would have used it, but if you let me know of things you want here, I'll create and post them when I read the messages... Thanks again for being interested in it; it's nice to see someone else who wants to use it. User:JesseW 02:47, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

::Thanks for helping me. You should let all the active WikiProjects know about it, as well as the regional notice boards and any active Collaboration of the Week. I'm am sure that most of them would probably find it useful for organizing/reorganizing their respective areas. The Categories feature can be a useful tool, but since it requires human maintainance, it can also be less organized than it should be. A prime example is the WikiCommons where the Category organization for the entire project is, quite honestly, a mess. User_talk:GK">User:GK|gK User talk:GK 11:31, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:::I've now looked at it a little more, and I have some  questions and  suggestions: 1) I am not sure what the "Entered:" and the numbers after that mean. 2) It would be nice if it followed an outline format with some sort of Roman numerals, numbers, capital letters, lowercase letters organization. 3) It would also be nice for each category except at the bottom to list the number of articles and subcategories directly below it (e.g. Japan: 24 subcategories, 81 articles). The number of articles is really not that important (except for detecting underpopulated and possibly unecessary categories). Not as important, but something that might be nice to add would be to also include the number of "supercategories". It's still going to awhile to find all the duplicates and weird organization under the Japan category (e.g. :Category:Japanese atheletes and :Category:Japanese sportspeople). Again, thank you. User_talk:GK">User:GK|gK User talk:GK 14:24, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the list and graphic. It's looking much better now. I do have one suggestion, and one request. First, the suggestion: You probably should have a couple of more characters of offset per level just so that each level is easier to recognize, or, instead of using all numbers, do a hierachy of ordering like most outline programs, so that one level is Roman numerals, the next is capital letters, then numbers, then lower case letters, etc. I.A.1.a....

Now the request: Even though I'm still digesting the info on Category:Japan, could you also create a list for :Category:Stub categories (which should be much smaller than the one for Japan)? User:GK User talk:GK 03:40, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Broken link==
Thank you for letting me know about the broken link.  I'll keep checking that for a few days to see if it is a temporary propblem or if it might be permanent.  That link has worked for months so I doubt it is gone for good.  I'll drop you a line when it is working again.  Hmm... perhaps I should copy/paste that to a subpage here so I can link to it within Wikipedia.  User:SWAdair | User talk:SWAdair 04:28, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Ah, the URL had changed.  Interesting...  Well, [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-September/015373.html here] is my rant.  In it I basically say that WP is not a free-for-all, and that standards must apply.  I don't actually go into the specifics of the standards.  That was just a reply to people who kept saying "VfD is broken."  If you would like to peruse the old posts to the mailing list, you can find the archives [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/ here].  Thank you, again, for bringing the broken link to my attention.  User:SWAdair | User talk:SWAdair 09:17, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Reedie Wikipedians==
Hey, so I was looking through the facebook and I was like, I know that guy! How's break going for you Jesse? I'm gonna be back at reed in the spring, so i'll see you then, but I've gotten to thinking there should be an organized group for wikipedians on campus next semester, cause i figure more than a few reedies use it and contribute. Hit me up on my talk page.
User:Soren9580 05:55, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== January 15 Seattle meetup ==

Just wanted to let you know we are planning Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle#Next_meetup:_January_15 on January 15, 2005. We're trying to get a sense of who will attend, so please drop by Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle & leave a note. -- User:Jmabel | User talk:Jmabel 06:50, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

== re: Undeletion for Marit ==

Thanks for taking the time to ask about the deletion decision for Marit.  I've answered in the Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion#Marit. Hope that clarifies things.  User:Rossami User talk:Rossami 19:59, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== GAP ==
JesseW, thank you for your concern. It is true that one of the sources I used to gather information that I used in starting the Prospect Park and GAP pages comes from the Prospect Park Alliance, but I do not think there are any "copyright violations". Not every sentence or phrase is covered by copyright and the writing that may have some similarities does not necessarily consist of copyright violations when it is put together. I do not think "large" amounts of text are copied as you say, but there were a few turns of phrase that seemed generic enough to me to repeat without be accused of copyright violation.  While sentence structures may be similiar and there are a lot of facts that are the same (not all) I think you will find that it is really just the information that was copied from that web site; whenever I have used other people's information I have always been careful about reworking the text to make it my own. It is not against any law to copy information, especially when it is very generic and well known by a lot of people. If it really concerns you I suggest if you find some sentences that are too similar for your taste to just rewrite them, otherwise I would like to point out that the Prospect Park Alliance is just trying to promote the history of Prospect Park (and I think there are other sites that use similar texts, I also have several books that I used in drafting that material) so I cannot see how they have any strong claim to the information and generic writing that is on their website and there is a strong fair use argument in favour of Wikipedia anyway. If you are really concerned, just rewrite the few similarities you find and it then will only appear in the pages histories anyway, so that that is not considered a copyright violation as it is just archival material. As an entertainment lawyer (which is what I do during the day) I can tell you I am _very_ sensitive to these issues, so I appreciate your concern, but I really can't see how there is a violation unless you can give me something more specific to go on like word by word comparisons that show whole paragraphs have been copied. Thanks. User:Alex756 User talk:Alex756 06:12, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for getting back to me.  I have looked at the Grand Army Plaza page again, and decided that the only paragraph that I was unfomfortable about was the first paragraph under the History section heading.  I've rephrased it, so that's fine now.  I agree with your description that there were a "few turns of phrase" you repeated, and that those are probably not sufficient for copyright violation.  However, I think they were close enough(especially the sentance "the Plaza featured little more than a simple fountain surrounded by Olmsted and Vaux's distinctive berms (banks of earth used as a barrier) with dense plantings" which was identical in the source and Wikipedia article is a little long for "good taste"  I totally belive that you are very sensitive to these issues, and I thank you for explaining to me the history of the page.  Lets continue to make a great encyclopedia! Thanks! User:JesseW 01:26, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

==Democratic wikis==
The rewrite of the representative democracy proposal is taking longer than I expected. (Stupid Real World! Stupid "responsibilities"!) I've got it cooking in the back of my head, but I'm short on time to actually put it down in the wiki. Well, hopefully the lag will let the idea mature a little. 

Until then, I've worked up yet another crazy idea: User:Crazyeddie/Democratic wikis. I've proofread it, but it ''is'' 2:30 AM local, so could use a sanity check. Feel free to make any edits - I'll review it before I put it up on the VP:Proposals. I'm not really looking to get this started right off - just get people thinking in this direction. Somebody on slashdot mentioned a similar idea, but I've been thinking about it for a while. Mainly for use in something like that Legislature from the other idea, but it does have other uses. I left in the bits about use in a deliberative body, maybe that will have a subliminal effect to prep people for the Legislature idea. User:Crazyeddie 08:35, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

== Inactive Project Status ==

I am inquiring about your comments on the talk page of theWikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative Medicine.  Why do believe that this project is inactive?  How did you come up with the November date?
:I came up with the date by looking at the most recent edit to the WikiProject page. 
::Okay, this is where I take a major issue with you. A well written project page might never be edited again. That is the whole idea: to avoid endless circular editing.  A project page being constantly edited indicates project participants who do not know what they are doing. The promotion of constant editing on a project page, or in articles, is a very bad idea. User:John Gohde 22:28, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
: I am delighted that the project is still active - the more work we can do on Wikipedia, the better.  At present, the whole issue of Inactive projects is moot, as someone reset the WikiProjects list into one list, and explained it on the Talk page.  I've responded with my reasons for creating an Active projects list, so we'll see what transpires, but for now, the issue is moot. 
::For future reference: this Project is currently active and will always remain active for the following reasons. Editors editing anyone of our Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative_Medicine#Core Project Articles are known as Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative_Medicine#Private Participants of this Project and document that our project is currently active. This Project is by definition active as long as anyone of our stated Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative_Medicine#Goals  needs to be worked on.  I have added this comment to the main project page of the Wikiproject.  I fail to see how a project can be any more inactive than an article.  A project may have failed to do anything or accomplished its goals, but a well designed project can never be inactive, IMHO. User:John Gohde 22:01, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 
Next, are not all projects now inactive by definition due to the implementation of Categories?
:Not that I've heard...  AFIK, WikiProjects are meant to create guidelines and collaboration spaces, which is not the purpose of Categories.  I'm curious where you get that impression.
Are projects still allowed to display infoboxes in articles?  In the case of Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative Medicine, somebody managed to delete  which was a major part of this project's infobox. How can the Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative Medicine have our project's infoboxes restored to their original design? User:John Gohde 18:36, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:I don't know anything about all that.  I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble with the deletion issues.  Good luck on the project. User:JesseW 20:15, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::I have redesigned our infoboxes.  So far, I have received zero resistance on all of my edits.  Perhaps, I will get more problems from the alternative medicine people (ie, User:FoxFire) than from the science crowd?  Of course, the science people could simply be waiting. User:John Gohde 22:01, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

== Sunset Boulevard (movie) ==

Hi, I've responded to your request for peer review on Wikipedia:Peer review/Sunset Boulevard (1950 movie). Just thought I'd let you know in case you'd forgotten about it :) Also, we have a new policy of archiving requests if no response is made within a week, it only just came into effect so I'm letting all current submitters know. - User:Ta bu shi da yu 02:52, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:I'm archiving this into Wikipedia:Peer review/January 2005. If you'd like to keep actioning the article, please respond to the feedback given and feel free to relist (but only if you do action the current feedback please). - User:Ta bu shi da yu 04:36, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

==Return of the Untagged Image project==
You were kind enough to contribute to the Wikipedia:Untagged images project; I beg to draw your attention to part 2 of the project - there are about 12,000 more images in need of tagging. Any assistance you could provide would be most welcome. thanks --User:Tagishsimon User_talk:Tagishsimon

== More schools on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion ==

As of March 25, 2005, there are an additional (6) articles listed for deletion under the POV notion that schools are non-notable (even though this is invalid reasoning as per the Wikipedia Wikipedia:Deletion_policy).  Please be aware that the following schools are actively being discussed and voted upon:

* Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Blake Junior High School (renominated)
* Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Franklin High School
* Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Lake Dow Christian Academy
* Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Red Lake High School
* Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The Sage School
* Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Toowoomba Grammar School

In response to this cyclical ordeal, a User:GRider/Schoolwatch has been initiated in order to indentify school-related articles which may need improvement and to help foster and encourage continued organic growth.  Your comments are welcome and I thank you again for your time.  --User:GRider\^{User_talk:GRider}

==Biweekly special article==
Dear Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check member,

After many months, the biweekly special article has been brought back! The article we will be referencing is Titan (moon).  Please do your best to help out!

I'm asking all members to verify at least three facts in the article, and I'd really appreciate it if you could try and help with this.  We have about 19 members, so if even 3/4 of us try and fulfil this 'dream', that'll be 45 references!

If you need some information on how to use footnotes, take a look at Wikipedia:Footnote3, which has a method of autonumbering footnotes.  Unfortunately, they produce brackets around the footnotes, but it seems to be our best alternative until they integrate the [http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192 footnote feature request code] into MediaWiki.  You may be interested in voting for the aforementioned feature request.

Cheers,

User:Frazzydee|User talk:Frazzydee 20:03, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

== DSL story source ==

You added the following paragraph to the DSL page. It makes some claims that I haven't heard elsewhere. Could you add some sources for it(news reports, historical studies, etc.)? It's good writing, and interesting, but it needs to be sourced.

The paragraph: "Its origin dates back to 1988, when an engineer at Bell research lab deviced a way to carry digital signal over the unused frequency spectrum. This allows ordinary phone line to provide digital communication without blocking access to voice services. Bells management however were not enthusiastic about it as it was not as profitable as renting out a second line for those consumers who prefered to still have acess to the phone when dialing out. This however changed in the late 90s when cable companies started marketing broadband internet access. Realising that most consumers would prefer broadband over a second dial out line, Bell companies rushed out the DSL technology that they had been sitting on for the past decade as an attempt to slow broadband internet access uptake."

:JesseW, sorry for taking long to respond. My laptop died on me the other day, and have been editing wikipedia from public computers and don't bother to log in. Anyway, i got this story from Crafting and Executing strategy 14th edition" by Arthur A. Thompson Jr. I don't have it with me today, but can give the page number if someone insist. Did you remove it or something? I should have pointed the source, but i assumed it wouldn't look odd since that the paragraph is a hallmark of how most PHBs respond everywhere.
::No problem.  Thanks for letting me know the source.  I've mentioned it on the talk page, and since I don't have a copy of the book, I'll let it rest there.  Thanks again. User:JesseW 05:35, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Template:Resources for collaboration ==

If you are done enough updating it into Template:Page fixing tools you might want to consider redirecting the older to the new version. User:Circeus 21:22, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

==Fork/mirror resources?==
I see you maintain a list of mirror/fork sites...is there any particular resource etc. page for how one would go about ''starting'' one's own fork site?--Louis Epstein/le@put.com/User:12.144.5.2 01:35, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
:I don't actualy maintain the list, I just offer a unified view of it.  But Special:Export and pages linked to it should get you started on doing a fork.  Just make sure to link to the original article on Wikipedia, and state that content is under the GFDL.  I hope you didn't want me to email you a response, as I'm not going to... ;-) User:JesseW 17:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== Wikipedia namespace ==

Thank you for your kind words.  Cleaning neglected areas of the Wikipedia (like this one) produces a satisfaction not unlike that of cleaning a very dirty room.  You can see a big difference after you've finished, and thus feel you've accomplished something.  I guess that's why I'm doing it.  8) -- User:Beland 01:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== User:Humanbot update 03 June 2005 ==

On this day version ''two'' is released of the client-side User:Humanbot script. It allows you to browse the English Wikipedia on other tabs and edit it normally. en:User:Humanbot#Mailing list. User:R3m0t ^{User talk:R3m0t} 09:46, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

==User:Humanbot update 08 June 2005==

Version ''two''-''two'' released today includes in that green box a nice count of how many articles are left. This more or less co-incides with the event of hitting only 1000 articles remaining. Also, I have re-arranged the User:Humanbot page to make it easier to get to the right stuff. Progress charts, wikicookies, wikilove and a more thorough spelling check is promised when this is completed. (and also when the exam pressure eases off a little on me) User:R3m0t ^{User talk:R3m0t} 17:40, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC) Note: If you think this message was too trivial for a mailing, tell me and I'll stick to more important announcements on the list.

== Talk:Cigarette#Junk_science response ==

Hey JesseW. Thank you so much for taking the time to write me about my efforts to get the tobacco industry's junk science revealed. I have provided a source I found, a prosecution memo from Congress to the Department of Justice in 1994. I know it may not be the end-all-be-all, but it does use the term "junk science" in the memo to explain tobacco industry-sponsored research. It also generally does a good job of outlining how shady the industry was to get its own false science embraced by the public. Swing over to the talk page to see my official response. Thanks again. --User:Howrealisreal 16:04, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== User:Humanbot update 13 June 2005 ==

The spelling2 project (to work on secondary namespaces) was opened and finished. Progress charts will be available soon.

Version ''six-three'' tracks who made the edits, and rankings are available. Much of the work was done while I was asleep, explaining my [http://humanbot.joeyday.net/enwiki/stats.php low place] ;).

The next project, which may even be released today, will probably fix incorrectly capitalised headings, particularly "See Also" and "External Links".

The mailing list has grown to 24 people and while that is very nice for my ego, it is rather difficult to send out updates. This is why I did not send out a notice that the spelling2 project had opened. From now on, then, you must watch User:Humanbot/announce for updates. User:R3m0t ^{User talk:R3m0t} 12:00, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

==Wikipedia:Mind Benders==
Hello! I've noticed your past interest in Wikipedia:Mind Benders and wanted to share the following announcement with you! I've taken over the responsibilities of Mind Benders, and the page will now be regularly updated. Right now, the pre-round is open (it's more of a creative artistic competition), and round one will open soon (the questions are done, we just need to wait for the pre-round to begin/finish)! So why not check it out? I'll keep you updated! Thanks, User:Flcelloguy | User talk:Flcelloguy| User:Flcelloguy/Desk 01:24, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Feel free to pass this news on to other Wikipedians.

== Links to cats ==

When making a clickable link to a category, one must put a ":" before it (like ":Category:Fatcat"), otherwise there's no link and the page itself is added to the cat.  I noticed you had edits on Wikipedia:Cleanup resources and Wikipedia:Cleanup which you probably intended to work as links. -User:R. S. Shaw 05:14, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bookmarklet ==

I like the look of your watchlist bookmarklet, but I have no idea how such things work! Please could you tell me how to use it? Thanks
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