InterWiki is a facility for creating links to the many wiki wiki webs on the World Wide Web. Users avoid pasting in entire URLs (as they would for regular web pages) and instead use a shorthand similar to links within the same wiki.
Unlike domain names on the Internet, there is no globally defined list of InterWiki prefixes — and owners of a wiki must define a mapping appropriate to their needs. Users generally have to create separate accounts for each wiki they intend to use (unless they intend to edit anonymously). Variations in text formatting and layout can also hinder a seamless transition from one wiki to the next.
By making wiki links simpler to type for the members of a particular community, these features help bring the different wikis closer together. Furthering that goal, InterWiki "bus tours" (similar to webrings) have been created to explain the purposes and highlights of different wikis. ''(see Wikipedia:TourBusStop and Wikipedia:WikiNode)''
== Notations ==
InterWiki notations vary, depending largely on what kind of ''link pattern'' a wiki uses. The two most common link patterns in wikis are CamelCase and free links (arbitrary phrases surrounded by some set delimiter, such as double square brackets).
Accordingly, InterWiki links on a CamelCase-based wiki frequently take the form of "Code:PageName", where ''Code'' is the defined InterMap prefix for another wiki. Thus, a link "WikiPedia:InterWiki" could be rendered in HTML as a link to this (the one you are now reading) article on Wikipedia. Linking from a CamelCase-wiki to a page that contains spaces in its title typically requires substitution of the spaces with underscores (e.g. WikiPedia:Main_Page).
InterWiki links on wikis based on free links, such as Wikipedia, typically follow the same principle, but using the delimiters that would be used for internal links. These links can then be parsed and escaped as they would be if they were internal, allowing easier typing of spaces but potentially causing problems with other special characters. For example, on Wikipedia, MeatBall:AssumeGoodFaith appears as MeatBall:AssumeGoodFaith, and :de:InterWiki (former syntax: DeWikipedia:InterWiki) appears as :de:InterWiki.
The MediaWiki software has an additional feature which uses similar notation to create automatic interlanguage links - for instance, the link (with no leading colon) automatically creates a reference labelled "Other languages: :de:InterWiki | ..." at the top and bottom of the article display. Various other wiki software systems have features for "semi-internal" links of this kind, such as support for namespaces or multiple sub-communities.
== Implementation ==
Internally, a wiki that uses InterWiki links needs to have an "InterMap" that defines the mapping from wiki-code links to full URLs. For example, MeatBall:InterWiki might appear as MeatBall:InterWiki, but link to http://usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?InterWiki.
Since most wiki systems use URLs for individual pages where the page's title appears at the end of an otherwise unchanging address, the simplest way of defining such mappings is by substituting the InterWiki prefix for the unchanging part of the URL. So in the example above, the MeatBall: has simply been replaced by http://usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl? in creating the target of the HTML rendered link.
Care must be taken, however, in the handling of special characters - both those that violate local link pattern rules, and those that must be represented specially in crafting a URL for the target system. So a CamelCase-based wiki must make special provision for recognising that non-alphanumeric characters can be part of an InterWiki link, and even a free link based system may disallow local links containing characters such as '+' or '"' for technical reasons. Similarly, characters such as '?' and '&' are treated specially within URLs and may need to be converted into some other representation, as might unusual characters when linking between sites using different character encodings.
However, rather than creating a new list from scratch for every wiki, it is often useful to obtain a copy of that from another site. Sites such as MeatballWiki [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?InterMap] and the UseModWiki site contain comprehensive lists which are often used for this purpose - the former being publicly editable in the same way as any other wiki page, and the latter being verified as usable but potentially out of date.
MeatballWiki uses a mechanism called FileReplacement to directly use the openly editable InterWiki map for its own pages. Changes to that map do not take effect immediately, but the InterMap configuration file is re-generated if the wiki page remains unedited for a defined period of time. This delay is intended to assure proper review of all changes to the map while not preventing open editing.
== Shorthand for non-wiki sites ==
Most InterMap implementations simply substitute the InterWiki prefix with a full URL prefix, so many non-wiki websites can also be referred to using the system. A reference to a definition on the Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, for instance, could take the form Foldoc:foo which would tell the system to append "foo" to "http://www.foldoc.org/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?", and display the link as Foldoc:foo. This makes it very easy to link to commonly referenced resources from within a wiki page, without the need to even know the form of the URL in question.
It should also be noted that the InterWiki concept can equally be applied to links ''from'' non-wiki websites - Advogato, for instance, offers a syntax for creating shorthand links based on a MeatBall-derived InterMap.
== External links ==
* meta:Interwiki map
* MeatBall:InterMap at MeatballWiki
* [http://interwiki.wiki.taoriver.net/ The InterWiki Wiki]
* MeatBall:FileReplacementWiki
InterWiki
WikiPedia: is the InterWiki prefix for the 'pedia. On 1/2/02 I added a request for the MetaPedia. See MeatBall:InterMapSuggestions. ''<>< User:tbc''
Can anyone tell me how to find out what the protocol is for making links to pages of a certain name (whether created yet or not) at http://www.netunify.com project sites? I followed the external links here but I was confused whether those were the right sites or not.
I would particularly like to know whether code can easily be included in regular HTML pages (i.e., not wiki pages) but which would recognize (as do wiki pages) whether a link had already been created or not. For example, if I wanted to put a book online which I did not want to be collaborative but from which I wanted people to have the option to easily generate discussion pages from it (for any individual page as well as for the book as a whole), it would be nice to have a link on each page of the book such as "Discuss this page" or "Create a Discussion Page for this Page" (depending on whether the page had already been created at the target wiki site or not). I would think there could be some code which could check to see, when the user loaded the page, whether a corresponding discussion page had already been created or not. This could save the visitor time by not having to check each page if they had not been created yet (and would not require that each possible page be set up ahead of time at the target wiki site).
Lastly, I'd like to know what the protocol is for linking TO wikipedia from http://www.netunify.com or from regular HTML sites . Any ideas? Thanks! - User:Brettz9 04:01 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
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We've been using "InterWikiLink," or "InterLink," lately, to refer to inter-wiki links. (So to speak.)
Inter-Wiki has shifted (it seems to me) to mean, "Any technology connecting wiki." For example, Inter-Wiki page transfer technology, which is in the works. Or the "NearLink," or "Unified RecentChanges." All under the category of: "InterWiki."
At least, that's how I've been talking about these things with people. Kinda hard to figure out consensus on this sort of language issue.
-- User:LionKimbro
:Actually, I think that's the ''orginal'' meaning of the term(s): according to MeatBall:InterWiki, "InterWiki is the idea of having one unified Wiki system distributed across many servers." i.e. it is an unattained ideal of complete interlinking of all wikis. The particular approach discussed here is called MeatBall:InterMap there. I'm not sure if that's any clearer than where you started, my brain feels a bit swiss-cheesy right now for some reason... - User:IMSoP 18:17, 4 May 2004 (UTC)
::Bah, I didn't really have time to do that, but I've just completely rewritten this page. Um, ''oops!'' :-/ User:IMSoP 20:19, 4 May 2004 (UTC)
::: I've taken out the "original meaning" stuff, it was uninformative and needlessly prominent. If anywhere, it could go into a history section.--User:EloquenceUser:Eloquence/CP 00:13, May 5, 2004 (UTC)
::::Uh, OK; but it was meant more as a usage note than a historical one - "InterWiki" (which is just CamelCase for "inter-wiki", after all) technically just means any way of creating bonds between wikis, not just this particular implementation. It just happens that this is currently the most obvious example of inter-wiki technology. Perhaps this could be clearer if it were followed through with other examples, such as MeatBall:NearLinks and MeatBall:TwinPages - perhaps explained in an extra section. (See MeatBall:CategoryInterCommunity for some other related concepts) - User:IMSoP 10:57, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I see. I think without actually discussing these other concepts mentioning that there ''are'' other concepts is pretty pointless. So yes, there should be different sections for the different meanings.--User:EloquenceUser:Eloquence/CP 11:01, May 5, 2004 (UTC)
::::::Well, indeed, but see my comment above: "I didn't really have time to do that"; maybe if no-one else does I'll fix it in a few weeks when I've finished my degree (or maybe just next time I'm procrastinating) :-DUser:IMSoP 20:03, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
Just a quick note in case someone other than me adds to the article: it occurred to me that Wikipedia's interlanguage links are more like a semi-internal MeatBall:TwinPages scheme than MeatBall:InterMap - they are out-of-line, and link to the same information on a different wiki. Allowing InterWiki ''redirects'', meanwhile (e.g. from Wikipedia to Wiktionary) provides us with a kind of MeatBall:NearLink system. And an interesting possible feature to ponder would be internal NearLinks for namespaces - a Wikipedia: page could look for other Wikipedia: as well as article namespace pages if no namespace was explicitly given, which begins to be more like [http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cjp39/Peri/ContextualLinking PeriPeri:ContextualLinking] (d'oh! no InterMap there from here) - User:IMSoP 23:59, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
Does this page make sense in an encyclopedia? If so it needs to be cleaned up. User:Anthony DiPierroUser:Anthony_DiPierro/warning 12:25, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I would love to write this page better.
I'd talk about things like:
* Unified Recent Changes
* Inter Link (what is described in the present page), Near Link, Local Names
* Sister Sites
* shared ban lists
I'd also link to several C2, Meatball, and CommunityWiki pages, at a minimum.
But I'm personally involved in much of the technology, especially Local Names, I believe that means I'm not allowed to work on the page. (Is this a correct understanding?)
User:LionKimbro
== Unified Recent Changes, Near Link, Inter Link, Sister Sites ==
Again:
InterWiki is *any technology related to connecting wiki.*
Four such technologies are the UnifiedRecentChanges, NearLink, InterLink (or InterWikiLink), and SisterSites.
We hope to soon have page transfer.
This page is acting as if the InterWikiLink ''is'' InterWiki, which is just plain ''false.''
==Purpose==
This template allows you to add a link from the en.wikipedia article on a language to the wikipedia project in that language. Just add the following code to the language article, just before the first link in External links:
:''''
Where ''lang_code'' is the language code as described in [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_language_Wikipedias_available WikiMedia].
This template adds the following to the language article:
:
--User:Seabhcan, 19:01, 2 Dec 2004
: Please don't add this on top of language pages, that's needless spam. Rather, it should be added to the external links section. --User:Joy 16:48, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:: Hullo! Coming to the placement of the template, please don't go pushing the template to the bottom on each language article, just 'cos few of us here have signed it to be so. It might be sorta 'spam' for few languages... but it serves a great purpose for others being on the top. Just go by the context. And don't be too generic.--User:Hpnadig 02:20, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::: I fail to see why it would ever need to be on top. When someone goes to look at a page describing a language in the English Wikipedia, they expect to see a description of it, in English. This link will provide them with an example how the language looks in writing, but it will not help them understand much about it (unless they have a universal translator embedded in their frontal lobe, which is, well, unlikely :). The English-language content on the page is primary, this kind of a link should follow after it. --User:Joy 09:51, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::::ok, the above comment is a cut down and edited version of my comment that was below and was pasted here. (courtesy: User:Circeus ). So, you know what to infer. Now, let me put some light on why the interwiki helps more being on top or atleast *near-top*. A language which has a wikipedia of its own would sound more significant - all the time, and the first questions one would probably get about the language like "whats the script?, how does it look?, is it a significant one? etc.." would be answered instantly on visiting the language wikipedia.
::::: The English article about the language is a substub if it doesn't explain the script, show a single example, or note anything about the language's significance. I don't think that the focus needs to be on redirecting people elsewhere in such cases - instead we should fix the woefully inadequate English article.
::::: BTW, the reader doesn't necessarily become enlightened about the script from reading the language Wikipedia - for example if I, your typical Latin-only reader, went instantly over to any number of Wikipedias written in non-Latin scripts after visiting their description here, I would not attain any knowledge other than "it's some sort of script that is incomprehensible to me". Whereas, if I were to continue reading the English article and examined the list of characters, and/or the explanation of word formation in this language, I would actually get a grasp of what that language is like.
::::: So, like I said, this link should exist, but it can not and should not replace or take precedence over a decent article in this Wikipedia. --User:Joy
:::: And it probably is a step ahead in getting familiarised with the language than just reading the description. I think a lot of wikipedians here who came to the language wikipedias that way agree to this one. and some of my fellow wikipedians like User:Nickshanks were even interested in learning kannada. ask him from where he got to it? from the kannada page!. It need not be a "universal translator embedded in their frontal lobe", but just the aspiration and curiosity for the new language! point 2. The people who're already familiar with the language might not reach until the last line (all of us don't have the same time to go through the complete article all the time, do we?), even with greater curiosity. If kept within easy - sightable range, there are more chances of them landing on the language wikipedia for the language they know, and start contributing, on knowing about it. Since a large number of them do come via english wikipedia, and the traffic that en wikipedia gets, this is justified, too.
::::: I suppose the second point is valid, although I can't help but doubt the ability and/or interest of people to usefully contribute to encyclopedia articles if they can't even be bothered to skim over them. --User:Joy
:::: And overall, you're not *spamming*. (This is no *ad* or *external link*. open your eyes, its another mediawiki project!) Instead, you're helping mediawiki projects grow by pushing them strongly! no bad ideals here! after all, it gets visitors more involved. It serves a very good purpose. Correct me if I'm wrong. cheers, --User:Hpnadig 21:31, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::::: Actually, when I was using the term "spam" WRT these links at the top, I meant it in the generic meaning of "unsolicited messages aimed at self-promotion". It wasn't meant to be overly disparaging, but still negative enough. --User:Joy
:Why do we need a blanket policy on whether it should be at the top or the bottom? It is certainly not spam - wikipedias in all languages serve the same purpose, and contributors in one language are not "self-promoting" - they have no personal motives, obviously. Also, if it would be spam at the top, it would be spam at the bottom too. Conversely, since you accept that it is not spam at the bottom, it is not spam at the top either. It achieves the same purpose wherever it is.
:Personally, I don't think the issue is big enough to have a "policy" on it. I can see why it would help some languages if it were to be at the top. This is true for languages which have just started their own wikipedias, which means that not many people who speak the language are aware that there is a wiki in that language yet (that situation is not as uncommon as it sounds, there are a lot of wikis with less than 100 articles, and I know from experience that people are not always aware that they have a wiki in their language). A prominent notice at the top will help them get contributors, and I don't see why we should stop it...
:As I said, instead of having a blanket policy, we can leave it open. It is really not that big of an issue to insist that it should be at the bottom. --User:Ashwatham 20:47, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::Bigger wikis are almost all mentionned on the main page. In the case of 80% of small wikis, the articles are alrerady short enough that it is hard to miss the Interwiki template, especially with the various articles that are 2 paragraphs stubs. Having extended the use of Interwiki to all languages listed at Metawiki, I should know what I'm talking about. I think the main idea here is to decide on having a consistent location for in longer articles, especially considering that in many cases, it causes the template to be disgracefully moved toward the middle of the page (though that would rather tend to indicate introductory paragraphs are too short).--User:Circeus 21:07, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)
== Negative co-occurences ==
The template still need som reworking. As is, it shows an overwhelming tendency to push existing Template:Language templates left, causing the area available for text to be dramatically reduced. Can be circumvented by placing the first section between the templates. Or at the bottom. I am not sure what was the final consensus on it.--User:Circeus 07:22, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)
:This template should be placed at the bottom, under external links--User:JiangUser talk:Jiang 08:21, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::Great, I've just spent 2 hours, moving them from bottom to top (But then I'd've spent the same amount moving them from top to bottom XD). Oh well, I'll put themm back at the bottom later. It's 4:00 in the morning here. I need sleep. --User:Circeus 09:52, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)
::Done, all the pages have had it moved to the External Link section, removing any previous link to the wiki in the process. Exception is Avar language, lacking an appropriate location to move the template to -_-;; --User:Circeus 04:52, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)
Nice work, Jiang and Circeus. ''—User:Mzajac 05:08, 2005 Jan 10 (UTC)''
:Just finished adding the template to all pages on the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_language_Wikipedias_available MetaWiki list]. Need sleep now -_- --User:Circeus 07:08, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)
== Archived deletion discussion ==
====Template:InterWiki====
This is just needless spam. Maybe it can sit in talk pages, but as it is used now as an article header, it is highly inappropriate. Even on talk pages, I dont see much relevance. See wikipedia:avoid self-references. --User:Jiang 17:21, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Most languages either already had or could have a link to xy.wp.o in their external links section, and this template would facilitate keeping a list of all of those (using the category). The only problem, IMHO, is that the author intended for it to be placed at the top of each article, which is definitely spam. I think that we should simply conclude that the notices should be moved off of the tops of pages and keep the template, near the bottom. --User:Joy 21:20, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Concur. -- User:Jmabel | User talk:Jmabel 06:06, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)
**Concur. Maybe the Interwiki box/section could be emphasized instead? --User:Circeus 16:27, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**We would need to reformat it into the wikiquote/wiktionary/wikicommons template style. --User:Jiang
*** Keep if reformatted as per Joy's and Jiang's proposition. -- User:Naive cynic 08:51, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*** Keep, yes it should be reworded and reformatted. It should also not be placed at the top of each article. (I know I'm guilty of this but will change my ways.) User:Wikiacc 16:22, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. As an administrator of a minor language wikipedia, I think this tag is useful in encouraging people interested in a language to contribute to, or at least visit, wikis that are often overlooked. User:QuartierLatin1968 01:27, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Please keep self references on talk pages. Most people reading the article will be illiterate in the language discussed. The message will be useless for them. They can visit but it will serve them no good. If people know a language, then they will have better places to look (ie the main page) than the language article itself. wikipedia:avoid self-references. --User:Jiang
*delete. we don't need a template for everything. if there is a WP in the language treated in the article, place a link under 'external links'. User:DbachmannUser_talk:Dbachmann 09:44, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*I'm in the same position as QuartierLatin1968, but I have to agree with much of what the others have said. Put something explanatory in the External links, or a template near the bottom, because anyone interested enough in the article to be able to do anything useful for the minor WP is likely to read the whole article. Another obvious permissible addition to the "Xy language" article is a standard interwiki link starting with "[[Xy:"; and those of us who are contributing to minority languages can be vigilant in adding interwiki links to all other pages for which our "Xy" has an equivalent. User:Robin Patterson 10:58, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I don't usually participate in these kinds of discussions, but I happen to find this template in particular very useful. Every time I have to research a language, I find it helpful to visit that wiki. I often needto research and get a feel for various languages in my field. I happened to come across this "for deletion" advisory while researching Latin. I did go to that wiki and was glad it existed (I speak several languages so I can understand parts of these wikis). I also think it gives good exposure to smaller wikis. I would think that most ... speakers don't know they have a wiki, judging by the number of articles. QuartieLatin (are you from Montreal too?) and Robin Patterson are obviously literate in the languages discussed. Also, I am assuming that most of you rarely read the entries on language pages. I would ask, as someone who does, and finds this feature very useful, that we keep it.
*Delete (It appears rather Wikipedicentric to me. Being capable to read and/or speak a set of European languages, I think this could equally well be accomplished by a link under a suitable heading, as for instance ''External links'' or ''See also.)'' User:Ruhrjung 21:43, 2004 Dec 27 (UTC)
*Keep but change to style (and placement) of wikiquote/etc. —User:Tkinias 22:33, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep but reformat to the sister project box style and placement. – User:Mxn (User talk:Mxn, Special:Contributions/Mxn, [http://mxn.f2o.org/index.html blog]) 22:57, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep but reformat It's good to promote other language wikis. This is really meta-wiki content. Is it possible to extend the "in other languages" sidebar box in some way, instead of adding a template within the article? ''—User:Mzajac 01:33, 2004 Dec 28 (UTC)''
*Keep but reformat. User:Mark Dingemanse— User:Mark DingemanseUser Talk:Mark Dingemanse 01:49, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* Definitely keep, whether reformatted or not. Visiting the given language Wikipedia might raise the interest in someone to spend more in-depth efforts on that language, and I think this is absolutely in accordance with the Wiki objectives. Even if they don't understand it, they may find it appealing to them, or may understand a few words, and they may be encouraged to continue studying. At least at the bottom, but the template should definitely be kept. --User:Adam78 15:25, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. While it's not directly applicable to the entry, it is useful auxiliary information. --User:Marnenuser_talk:Marnen 17:17, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Very useful for interwiki coordination. User:Anton Mravcek 22:32, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Since Wikipedias with low amounts of articles are no longer on the other languages section on the Main Page, this template is useful to see if that language has a Wikipedia to contribute to. User:Norm\User talk:Norm 15:14, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. This is a useful template for language research, etc. I disagree with the spam characterization, because language articles have a higher likelihood of being read by someone who may be interested to read a Wikipedia in the language described in the article. --User:Ryanaxp 22:21, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. It's very interesting to read about a little-used language and then see the same language in action. Anyhow, the usual interwiki links are not easy enough to notice; this template sticks out a bit too much... Perhaps it should be flushed to the right? --User:Pt 00:45, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep Its a good way to get attention of speakers / learners of minority languages
*Keep, but reformat and have it at the bottom. Even there it violates the no self reference policy, but in the external links that may be acceptable. - User:Taxman 03:49, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, but I agree that it should be reformatted like wikiquote and moved to the bottom of articles. User:CyborgTosser (User_talk:CyborgTosser) 09:01, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep: some people are becoming entirely too anal-retentive about Wikipedia:Avoid self-references, they need to chill and think about it (I've even seen people objecting to references to sister projects like Wikibooks). The fact that a language is prominent enough to have its own specific Wikipedia is a criterion for notability and should therefore be mentioned in the article somewhere. I feel that the appropriate place would be in the External links section. --User:Phil Boswell | User talk:Phil Boswell 09:29, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep: I'm a big devotee of ''avoid self-reference'', but this is an explicitly-permitted exception, because it is contained to a template and so can be removed ''en masse'' with a single edit. I was still unconvinced until I read above that real users find it useful. So let's keep it — perhaps dropping the font size a bit would satisfy more people. User:Dcoetzee 09:53, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Summary:
* Keep: 8
* Keep but amend: 16
* Delete: 2
==syntax error==
Should not Template:InterWiki have a closing </div> after "|}" (</table>)?
--User:WikiBorg, 2005-01-17 07:22 +0100
==Disagreement on location at Kannada==
Can I know what the real intention was behind this edit? :) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kannada_language&diff=9363407&oldid=9234323 link] Looks like you don't really seem to like the mention of 'kannada' wikipedia on the 'kannada' page. --User:Hpnadig 01:12, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:If you look, you'll see that I've simply moved the Interwiki box to the "External links" section, which is the location it belongs to according to Interwiki's Talk page --Circeus 01:17, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
::If you observe carefully, thats just an opinion from one of the wikipedians to put it in external links section. In this context though, I believe, if placed down below, It is as good as not having it on the page. :) But thats not the only thing. You have also seen to it that the link to it in "See also" has vanished. I would recommend leaving a note in the talk page before erasing something... It would make less sense to keep changing back.--User:Hpnadig 01:33, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:::I've spent 2 hours putting/moving interwiki templates. The template was proposed for deletion because it was considered inappropriate at the top of pages (among things). There was no reason whatsoever to have both a See also link when the Interwiki box was fairly prominent in the lower parts of the page. If you consider that location for the template inappropriate (after considering the question, i came to conclude it was), you should idscuss it over at its talk page. --Circeus 01:50, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
::::It would be a stupid thing first to remove it, and then ask to participate in a long-lasting discussion about it... I just don't seem to get the idea. There have been such endless talks recently, and I don't fancy getting in one, Thank you. For this language, atleast, can't we leave the template alone and think of some constructive additions rather than just push templates to the bottom? The template is there for a good purpose. Please just make sure you leave a comment in the respective article's talk page before pushing it again to the bottom and removing any links that serve a good purpose. --User:Hpnadig 02:12, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::::: Oh my. Most evidently I very badly worded my previous comment. The template was proposed for deletion and kept with a complete reformatting and the decision (I believe) not to put it at the top of pages anymore, than the discussion related to it was archived on it's talk page. I kept it at the top only of page that were substubs or didn't have an actual "External links" section. I took the liberty of moving your comment at the talk page in a more appropriate position and deleting the inappropriate parts. Really sorry for any inconvenients. --Circeus 03:14, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
:::::: This sounds irrational. whats going on? why did you remove my vote off? --User:Hpnadig 17:15, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Because the vote has closed (It is an archive that is kept at Template_talk:InterWiki) and the template was kept. I mentionned the template was proposed to deletion, I did not say it was currently on the list, which is at Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion.
:::::::: But that shouldn't conclude that the interwiki should go to bottom in all the language articles. The issue couldn't possibly close with the poll for deletion. Lets have a new poll and invite all the language wikipedia maintainers this time over, I believe not many even knew about the proposition to move it to the bottom. Please don't take pre-emptive conclusions and make the changes. I see that the interwiki that was moved to top was moved back to bottom again on Kannada. Where is this taking it? --User:Hpnadig 18:13, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: I did not touch to Kannada again and from now on, I will not consider myself concerned with any problem you might have with other editing "your" pages. Joy point out "''The only problem, IMHO, is that the author intended for it to be placed at the top of each article, which is definitely spam. I think that we should simply conclude that the notices should be moved off of the tops of pages and keep the template, near the bottom''", and if you read the voters comment closely, you'll notice there were several agreers. Further discussion belongs not on my talk page but on Template_talk:InterWiki. You might want to make a Wikipedia:Request for comments before going straight to a Wikipedia:Current_surveys. I will be copying this discussion to Interwiki's talk page so that others can contribute. --User:Circeus 18:27, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: Its rather childish on your part to say "problem you might have with other editing *your* pages". I would've done probably more if I were having such a feeling. I'm just concerned only 'cos I'm one of the maintainers of Kannada wikipedia and think that the interwiki there serves a really good purpose.
:::::::::: I'm not denying there are people who agree to the placement of interwiki at the bottom... I'm just saying that there are people too who would like to see that on the top.I think this can be put to discussion and solved. Just let us make way for a discussion involving everyone concerned. cheers, --User:Hpnadig 20:31, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
== Template:InterWiki @ xx.wikixxxx ==
* Halló! I made a list about Template:InterWiki @ xx.wikixxxx at commons:User:Gangleri/sandbox/Template:InterWiki. I am puzzeled about lowecase and capital "W" in "''InterWiki''". So far I identified only :fr:Template:InterWiki and :sv:Template:InterWiki with lowercase "w" ("''Interwiki''"). Is there a reason for this? Best regards User:Gangleri | [ Th] | :Gangleri 20:52, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC)
== class="noprint" ==
this doesn't seem to do anything. Does it? User:MarSch 17:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
and what about
clear: right;
? -User:MarSch 14:28, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
and what about
spacing: 1px;
? -User:MarSch 14:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)