Hydnjo

---- == User:Hydnjo 21:41, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)== ---- ==Interesting Places== * Special:Contributions/newbies To see if we still qualify. * Wikipedia:Clueless newbies To make sure that we're ''not''. * Special:Newpages To see who's being naughty and who's being nice. * Wikipedia:Featured article candidates or WP:FAC To see the best of the articles that have not yet been featured. * Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates or WP:FPC To see some excellent pictures and critiques. * Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost or WP:SIGN To get some insight about Wiki goings-on. * Special:Watchlist What we're interested in following right now. * Wikipedia:Votes for deletion or WP:VFD To see what articles are disliked by some. * Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion or WP:IFD to see what going on in the ''Image namespace''. * Wikipedia:WP or WP:WP for some Wikipedia ''shortcuts'' of course. * Wikipedia:What's in, what's out or WP:WIWO is on the list for now. * Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration or WP:RFAr ==Useful Places== * Help: Contents For a good overview of helpful places of course. * WP:HEP For the nitty-gritties. * Wikipedia:Utilities For helping to get some things done. * Wikipedia:Namespaces To help understand Wikipedia's structure: ** Main Page Main article namespace. ** Wikipedia:User page Us. ***Wikipedia:User page ** Wikipedia:Project namespace The back office. ** Wikipedia:Image description page Pictures, graphics, etc. ** Wikipedia:MediaWiki namespace I'm not sure yet. ** Wikipedia:Template namespace See them Wikipedia:Template messages/All in a BIG list or WP:TM for boilerplate. ***Wikipedia:Template messages or WP:TM ***Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs ***Wikipedia:Stub categories ** Help:contents Lots of "How To...." stuff. ** Wikipedia:Category Groups of articles that fit into a category. See :Category:New Hampshire. ***Wikipedia:Categorization ** Wikipedia:Special pages Lots of these - select Wikipedia:special pages or in the sidebar - they're not the same - some interesting stuff. * ...and their ''Talk'' pages as well. * Wikipedia:Help desk or WP:HD For help with specific issues. * Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines or WP:RULES For well, rules. * Wikipedia:List of administrators or WP:LA for a list of frontliners (also [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Listadmins&limit=500&offset=0]) ==Editing Help== * Wikipedia:Introduction * Wikipedia:Tutorial or WP:T * [[Wikipedia:Redirect|#REDIRECTgoto pagename]] * ''More to come'' ==Articles In-progress (now or later)== * Searles Castle * Edward Francis Searles aka Edward F. Searles aka Edward Searles * Bernard M. Oliver aka Bernard Oliver aka Barney Oliver * Disney's Contemporary Resort * Hydroseeding

Hydnjo

==This is the place to talk, explain, complain, or flame. == ---- --User:Flockmeal 21:41, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC) == How to make a tag. == How do I make a double brace tag such as and is there a list of already existing ones? :That's called a template. If you wanted to make , then you would go to template:blah and put the content there. User:Raul654 21:38, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC) :Oh, and yes, there is a BIIIIIG list somewhere but I can't remember where it is off the top of my head. User:Raul654 21:39, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC) :: You're probably thinking either of Wikipedia:All pages in the MediaWiki and Template namespace or Wikipedia:Template messages/All. --User:Diberri | User talk:Diberri 22:04, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC) : Check out m:Help:Template for more details on setting up templates. --User:Diberri | User talk:Diberri 22:04, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC) == Templates == You're very welcome. Since I'm here, welcome to Wikipedia! :-) Happy editing. --User:Diberri | User talk:Diberri 03:46, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC) ---- ==:Image:Hydnjo.JPG== ==JPG Help== I can't seem to make thumbnail sized. I've uploaded it as a 2KB file but it still comes out BIG. Feel free to edit or explain so that I can edit. Also how can I reference that image without displaying it. I used "nowiki" for that image reference in this message but that requires some helpful soul to type it out rather than clicking on it. Thanks, User talk:Hydnjo :(From Hydnjo): Experimenting around it seems that my original upload needs a "syop" to delete. Sorry about that, I'll be more careful in the future. Would a "syop" please help. Delete everything if you wish and I'll start over. Thanks User:Hydnjo 02:55, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) User talk:Hydnjo ::Firstly, you can display a reference to an image by including a colon at the beginning of the wiki-brackets, like this: :Image:Hydnjo.JPG , which displays this: :Image:Hydnjo.JPG. Secondly, it's okay to upload big (within reason), because you can use the Wikipedia:Extended image syntax to ''display'' a smaller version, but still have the large version available for users who want to see more detail. Thirdly, you can modify an uploaded image by uploading a modified copy with exactly the same file name -- you will be given the option to overwrite the original image. See also Wikipedia:Picture tutorial for more info and links. Best of luck to you! User:CatherineMunro\^{User_talk:CatherineMunro}">User:CatherineMunro|User:CatherineMunro\^{User_talk:CatherineMunro} 06:54, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) ==Thanks for JPG help== Hello Catherine and thank you for your fast response to my plea for help. *The colon after "[[" is exactly what I was looking for. *My confusion about reloading an image may be the result of the way my browser (Safari) works. I had reloaded :Image:Hydnjo.JPG several times (take a peek at that page's history) but the initial BIG image kept showing up no matter which revision I called up. I tried logging out and into WP and emptying Safari's cache but to no avail. But,when I went back there after reading your response this morning the image was thumbnail size (how did you do that)! So today (as an experiment) I replaced that image with it's horizontal reverse (Heidi-left, Joe-right). Same thing happened (twice); the old image kept showing up. In desperation I restarted my computer and then all was fine. Question - does WP have a time delay when images are replaced or is my iMac browser ignoring my request to empty it's cache? *Thanks for the "Picture tutorial" link - more stuff to learn. *Your User and Talk pages will keep me up way past my bedtime tonight. *Is your self-reference (I had to look it up in WP) an MBTI category? *Without asking your permission, I ripped off your signature format. Thanks again,User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 23:25, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) :No problem, Joe, we're glad to help. We all had to find our way through the thicket of help and policy pages at some point -- knowing you'll do the same for somebody else down the road is all the thanks we need. :The caching problem is probably on our end. Because the vast majority of our users are readers rather than editors, and every ''reader'' can be served the same page every time until the page changes, we lighten the load on our servers by using a layer of "Squid servers". The page request goes first to the Squid, which, if nothing has changed since the last cache, sends a cached copy of page to readers -- that is, non-logged in users -- without touching the main databases. When you're logged in, it's not supposed to send you a cached page, but sometimes it does, especially if there's a lot of traffic at the moment, or a lot of changes have been made to a page within a short time. :In addition, if the Squids pass on the request to the main servers, there's a "round robin DNS" system which finds the machine with the lightest load at that millisecond, and sends your request there. MOST of the time, this is totally transparent, and MOST of the time, all of the physical servers are exactly in synch. When you run into a caching issue, though, it may be that traffic is high and either the Squids or the database servers are slightly behind in updating, or are serving a cached page instead of the latest update. It never takes long to catch up, and usually a user would never notice, but it ''is'' frustrating when you are trying to check that an improvement you made looks the way you want it to. (It's all very complicated, and I applaud our volunteer developers for making it work as well as it does!) :Yes, the INFP is one of the MBTI categories -- only 1.5% of the population out there, or something. :) (Hope you enjoyed your stroll through my user pages...) And no worries on the signature, I borrowed it from user:Solitude, and posted the code for it on my page to make it easy to borrow. Please feel free to ask if there's anything else I can do to help. User:CatherineMunro\^{User_talk:CatherineMunro}">User:CatherineMunro|User:CatherineMunro\^{User_talk:CatherineMunro} 20:00, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) Hello again Catherine :Thanks for the server tutorial. I suspected as much after a few more experiments; I seemed to have no control over the timing of the new upload actually showing up. I was confused at first because of a few coincidental occurrences. Your explanation fits my experiences. :I noted your acknowledgement to user:Solitude after sending my comments. Thanks anyway. :Also, there are about three times more of you INFPs out there than you think according to an excellent reference resource. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 00:16, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC) ---- ==Heroic Admins (or whomever)== Hi User:Jimbo Wales, :I'm fairly new around here and my wife is already complaining about your project. As I poke around and try to feel the edges, I am utterly impressed with the way I have been welcomed and helped (a beautiful personal touch) and, in particular, the devotion of the Admins (or Syops) that are so amazingly vigilant at identifying, reverting, and blocking those individuals who feel a need to soil anything that is unsoiled or helpful. :I hope to become more of a contributing member of this community (wife permitting) as I feel more comfortable with all of the "customaries". :My congratulations for such an wonderful project and contribution to our world. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 01:32, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) ---- ==You're welcome== Hydnjo - I saw your message on Jimbo's talk page, and (I'm going to be a bit impertinent here) speaking for the rest of the admins, I'd like to say you're welcome. Also, if you have any questions, feel free to ask in private on my talk page, or on the Wikipedia:Help desk. User:Raul654 02:23, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC) ---- ==Special Thanks To ... (from Hydnjo)== :User:Flockmeal for your kind welcome. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 03:48, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) :User:Raul654 for your help with templates. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 03:48, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) :User:Diberri for your help in finding THE template list. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 03:48, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) :User:CatherineMunro for your help with uploading images and making my signature look like I know what I'm doing. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 03:48, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) :and User:Raul654 (again) for watchlisting HIS talk page and taking the time to respond. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 03:48, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) ---- ==Tip about thumbnails== [[Image:HelloFromStepsOfBeiling.jpg|thumb|Standing at the steps of Beiling Park, a historical tomb located in Shenyang China.]] Hi, I noticed you were experimenting with different sized versions of your photo. It appears that the last version of your photo was manually resized to be thumbnail sized. If you haven't tried it out yet, there is a thumbnail feature for JPEGs that allows you to keep a large picture linked to a smaller preview version that shows up on the page when you first view it. For example, the example thumbnail to the right links to a larger version of a photo of my wife and I on vacation. If you're really curious, there is a picture tutorial with a mind-boggling number of options Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial, and another with fewer choices Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax. Cheers, — User:David Vasquez 03:58, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) ---- ==Thanks User:David Vasquez== I'm new and old (how's that for an oximoron) and I appreciate all the help that I'm getting from you folks. The he links that you provided were especially helpful. I hope that at some future time I'll be able to do the same for another newbie. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 04:56, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) == loading image and cache problem == I saw above your problem with reloading image and seeing the old version, you can work around this by forcing a reload in your browser (shift reload for safari I think) User:Phe 05:07, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) ==No - Not That== User:Phe : I reloaded an upside-down copy (see :Image:Hydnjo.JPG) but it still shows the earlier (right-side-up) image even after doing your reload suggestion. I even restarted my computer which closes all apps and restarts them. Something strange here - I'll let you know if I ever figure it out. : Well look at that, in the time that it took to type this message to you, the image flipped upside-down. Strange - some kind of time delay to work through the system (I think). :I'm going to make it right-side-up now. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 05:51, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) :Ignore the above. The image is either right-side-up or upside-down at some whim that I don't about yet. I'll let you know when I find out. User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo}">User:Hydnjo| User:Hydnjo\^{User_talk:Hydnjo} 06:02, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) ==Help desk== No problem. I just saw your question on Special:Recent changes; if I hadn't, somebody else would have answered. Keep up the good work. User:Meelar_User_talk:Meelar">User:Meelar|User:Meelar User talk:Meelar 02:37, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC) ---- ==Note to User:Cyrius== Thanks again You're fast with Wikipedia:Help desk. I appreciate it but I don't know how you do it. So, are you watching us or what? I've tried watching "Recent changes" so I know that's not how we get flagged, it's just too damn cluttered. An interested newcomer:User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 03:50, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC) :I have the Help desk on my watchlist. -- User:Cyrius|User talk:Cyrius 04:09, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC) ---- ==Alphabetizing== Alas, I did it the old fashioned way; if there is a Wiki-magic way to do it I couldn't find it. I'd guide you to other places to seek answers but it seems like you know them all already. :-) Sorry I wasn't much help! User:Mindspillage User talk:Mindspillage 03:52, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC) :Heh. When I want to do something productive but I don't feel like writing anything, I find random things to tidy up – and I know I'm Wikipedia:Wiki gnome who does this. On the whole Wikipedia is much less messy than you might expect! Actually, I was there adding a link anyway, so I figured I might as well. Happy editing! User:Mindspillage User talk:Mindspillage 04:31, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==Searles Castle reply== Hello! Thanks for getting back to me on that Searles Castle issue. Occasionally, folks will start in on an article and realize the title is wrong. They blank the page and hope for a speedy deletion to come along, which is what I had assumed had happened in your case. The new article is just flat out wonderful and I encourage you to contribute more like it. Welcome to the wacky wiki!! Please give a yell on my talk page if you have any other questions. - User:Lucky 6.9 19:48, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC) *(Re: minor tweaks) You're welcome. Thank ''you'' for the article. It caught my eye while I was patrolling Recent Changes. Anything with the word "castle" is guaranteed to grab my attention. :-) I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures when they become available. Happy editing! User:SWAdair | User talk:SWAdair 04:00, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) == Deletion abbreviations == Greetings. OB stands for "obsolete", meaning there exists a better image to use instead. OR stands for "orphan", meaning the image isn't used. CV stands for copyright violation. We use these abbreviations on IFD. I figured in might confuse people to see these in the log, but it's a lot easier than writing the whole thing out, and I'm lazy. :) – User:Quadell ^{(User_talk:Quadell) (Wikipedia:Image sleuthing)} 13:45, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC) ==WP Hierarchy== :Your joking, right? How about Jimbo, the wikimedia board, the developers, Wikipedia:Bureaucratss, the arbitration commitee, the mediation commitee, Wikipedia:admins, users, new users, anons, known sockpuppets and trolls, and hard banned users.... doesn't that sound like a clear hierarchy to you? Also this ignores completely the general guideline to avoid self references when possible, on top of the POV and factual inaccuracy. 08:24, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC) ::Please see User_talk:Sam_Spade#Wikipedia_Hierarchy_Copy. Where was the above from, btw? I seem to have forgotten. (User:Sam Spade | user_talk:Sam Spade | Special:contributions/Sam Spade) 00:05, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC) :::Message left on User talk:Sam Spade: ::::I was just poking around and following some controvertial stuff when I came across either User:MacGyverMagic or User:Netoholic (I forget which) trying to get you to stop using a template for your signature. I was interested because I wanted to understand their's and your position so that I would do the proper thing myself. Anyway, as I was looking at your ''talk'' page I noticed your commentary about the Wiki heirarchy, a well thought out description I thought, so I copied it to my ''talk'' page for my own reference. I hope you don't mind but if you do, I'll get rid of it. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 01:47, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC) :::::My reply is @ User_talk:Sam_Spade#Wikipedia_Hierarchy_Copy. Cheers, (User:Sam Spade | user_talk:Sam Spade | Special:contributions/Sam Spade) 08:18, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC) ==Searles Castle== This :Image:Searles Castle Gate.jpg is the best I've been able to get so far (other better pics are too comercial). When the snow melts and the green comes back I'll go up and take some pictures myself (I live nearby). Also I'm trying to find more editorial material. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 23:45, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC) : :-)That's a wonderful picture. Thank you for remembering me, and please do remember me again when you get more pics. User talk:SWAdair ::The picture is not very representative of the grandeur of this piece of early 20th century Americana. I'll illustrate it better later. I'm glad someone else besides me is interested in this kind of stuff. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 04:41, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC) == Edward Francis Searles == Hi, Unfortunately, Wikipedia can't use content that's been copied from other websites - it's important to respect the author's copyright. In the future please don't copy other sites into Wikipedia articles, without the author's permission. Thanks. User:Rhobite 05:21, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC) :I'm sorry about the mistake on my part. I was researching and by mistake I loaded a research article into the Wiki article. I wish there was a quick way to un-do the error with a keystroke or two but it seems that it nees to go through the VFD process Hopefully ''speedy''. I guess this will make me more careful in the future ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 06:01, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC) ::It's no problem at all, undoing things is pretty easy around here. Happy editing. User:Rhobite 06:13, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC) Eh, it was just a trivial edit, really. Still, it's good to have a message on my talk page that doesn't require me to go justify my actions to somebody. It has gotten to the point lately where I cringe when I see the big yellow new messages box. -- User:Cyrius|User talk:Cyrius 04:07, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==de-stubbing== Hi Hyjno - you wrote ''Thank you for "de-stubbing" this article. Just curious though - how did you find (locate) it? :I only "de-stubbed" it inasmuch as I took the stub template off it - someone else did the hard work of writing. As to where I found it, I'm part of the stub-sorting WikiProject (WP:WSS), and I found it while doing a sweep of :Category:Stub. User:Grutness|^{User_talk:Grutness} 02:01, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC) == hewlett packard == I added the based-in subject category due to Oregon having the base facilities for HP Printer operations and research. If this is in error, I will need to reconsider another other article I minorly edited. User:Tygar 18:14, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC) :After reviewing HP site, looks like I was in error with this category assignment. Sorry. User:Tygar 18:43, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC) == Two votes at Million pool == I noticed you made two votes (July 23 and 31) at Wikipedia:Million pool#July_2006. Did you change your vote, but forget to delete the old one? —User:Markaci�User_talk:Markaci�Special:Contributions/Markaci:2005-03-10 02:42 Z :Oops, you're right. I'll delete my 31 July 2006 entry as it is ''your'' birthday. Good luck, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 04:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Danke == Hey, thanks for the fix on my user page. User:Mr. Billion 03:05, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==I-291 (MA)== When I made it, I didn't realize there was no Interstate 291 article. --User:SPUI (User talk:SPUI) 02:21, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC) Yes, of course they're linked. Because they're valid redirects, EXCEPT that there is no article at the target. What part of that don't you understand? --User:SPUI (User talk:SPUI) 02:38, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Kein Gluck == Nein, nichts gefunden auf http://www.google.com/search?q=Vielfra%C3%9Fe&btnG=Google-Suche&domains=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org . None of those seem to refer to any kind of partisan or armed resistence in .de after the german capitulation. I also looked on 1945 and 1946 (the year articles) in german, also no mention there. :-/ Thanks for your suggestion though! :-) User:Kim Bruning 13:25, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Heidi question == Hi! Thanks for getting back to me. Generally, single-sentence articles are speedy deletion candidates since they lack content. A short article is great, but there has to be more to it since this is a reference work. You can add things like the movie's year of release, its costars, differences between the movie and the original story or perhaps any odd stories related to the production. If I remember right, that's the same movie that NBC cut to back in 1968 before the end of an AFC football game since they thought the game was hopelessly over and went to the movie. Turns out the Raiders came from behind in the final few seconds to win. Tell ya what: I'll remove the speedy tag and let you have at it. Best, - User:Lucky 6.9 22:39, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) **Oops...wrong Heidi. The one in '68 was made for TV. I see now that an anon wrote the article (such as it is). Something like that can usually be tagged as a speedy without any problem. - User:Lucky 6.9 22:44, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) *LOL! Yeah, I noticed the "Heidi connection!" Too funny. Have a great weekend and hope you're still having fun here. - User:Lucky 6.9 21:38, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) *Oh, this is becoming ''fun''. Folks like you make editing here worthwhile. The screen name comes from my rather fortunate acquisition of a Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 for all of $99 just before discovering Wikipedia. Way I figured, it was a "lucky" break, but not quite a "lucky seven." So, the fractional "Lucky 6.9" was born. Car still needs work, but what a blast it is to drive! - User:Lucky 6.9 01:11, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) *Yeah, that "6.9" has raised an eyebrow or two in the past...hope you liked the article! The car's only badge is, in fact "6.9." There aren't any "450SEL" badges on it at all. Even the promo literature called it just "6.9." I owe you a ride! - User:Lucky 6.9 01:37, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Re: 666,666th pool == No, because 666,667 isn't as cool as 666,666 :) User:Luigi30 (User_talk:Luigi30) 01:17, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Fan club == Cool, you are the first member of my fan club I have decided to set up. And don't bother talking to Onefool, he's a drunken offspring (he's my outlet for editting under the influence). You made me laugh when I was spying on my son. thanks Bashfool!--User:Wonderfool User talk:Wonderfool Special:Contributions/Wonderfool Special:Emailuser/Wonderfool 11:11, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==User:Onefool== Thanks for letting me know. I'm a bit confused as to what's going on there. If you happen to know more, please let me know, but I'll unblock it in the meantime just to be safe. Best, User:SlimVirgin 22:12, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC) == User:Graibeard == Nothing goes unnoticed ;-) and that's good to see!
You caught me between edits, I'm currently in the process of editing the old Marking out page to cover the more traditional usage. The delay is in part due to me attempting to tidy up any remaining wiki links to the original page's contents. It's unlikely I'll be revisiting the pro wrestling area so I figured I'd spend a bit of extra time on catching any mistakes I made. Thanks -- User:Graibeard 02:12, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Hound's Tooth == Hi! That article now looks more like a real substub than a vandal bot listing. At first, it just looked like more auto-generated booshwah from goodness-knows-where. I may take a stab at expansion m'self. Thanks for the heads-up and remember that you can fix ''anything'' that has a speedy tag on it. Have a great weekend! - User:Lucky 6.9 23:17, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC) *It's such an incredibly minor bit of canonical fluff that I don't really know what could be added to this that isn't already at the link. I really dig "Star Wars," but I'd never heard of this bounty hunter nor this ship until now. - User:Lucky 6.9 05:02, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==Speedy deletion== I noticed you nominated Nomad zen for speedy deletion due to its being advertising. Just thought I'd let you know, advertisement is not a criteria for speedy deletion. See wp:csd. We try to be strict about these sort of things. Thanks and keep contributing, User:Meelar User talk:Meelar 01:14, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC) :''Posted on User talk:Meelar page:'' :Point taken, thanks. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 01:25, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) ==Toronto roads== Please stop moving Toronto streets, many of them do not require disambiguation. - User:SimonP 05:05, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC) :''I have posted the following on User talk:SimonP's talk page:'' ::I'm not subtracting information am I? I just noticed that some of your street names were familiar to me, but not in Toronto. Anyone who looks up the un-ambiguated street name will go directly to the Toronto street article unless there is another street with the same name at which time they will have the opportunity to choose which street they intended. Do you have a problem with that? If so, please explain because I'm trying to avoid confusion and ''not'' create conflict. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 05:53, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) :::Moving them does nothing to solve this problem as the reader will still be redirected to the Toronto street, but now at a more ugly and cumbersome name. Unless disambiguation pages are created at the more generic name moving helps no one. Moreover the vast majority of the pages you moved will never even need to be disambiguated as in most cases Toronto is the only city in the world with a street by that name notable enough to have an article. - User:SimonP 06:15, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC) ::::OK then lets rv the changes and only disambig as necessary. I can't help tonight but will get on with it as time permits. Sorry for any inconvience. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 06:51, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) :::::I have gone trhough them. There are a few that certainly needed to be disambiged, e.g. College Street, University Avenue, and Queen Street. Others I restored to their original titles. - User:SimonP 14:57, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC) *Excuse me but what is so special about Toronto? Per WP:WIWO, most streets do not deserve articles period. User:Radiant!User_talk:Radiant!meta:mergist 09:45, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC) :I responded on User talk:Radiant!: ::I '''don't''' think that Toronto roads are special at all. In my comments at Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Minor roads I tried to explain what I saw and did when I noticed a flood of new articles with only ''Streetname'' as their title. I saw that most were non-notable streets in Toronto. Also, some had common streetnames (eg: Front Street). I didn't know exactly what to do but I thought that I would at least move them from ''Streetname'' to ''Streetname (Toronto)'' to reduce ambiguity (I probably should have alerted one of you guys instead). Anyway the folks that loaded the pages in the first place took issue with my having moved them to ''Streetname (Totonto)'' and they re-moved them back to ''Streetname''. I agree entirely with you in setting some minimum threshold for streenames to become an article. If my comments suggest otherwise then I apologize for not stating my position clearly. I thought that the final sentence in my comments wouls make my position obvious, I agree with you. ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 16:43, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC) **Ok :) I suppose merge/redirecting would be an option, then. It's easier than dragging each and every nn street through VfD. User:Radiant!User_talk:Radiant!meta:mergist 17:27, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC) ==Rmrfstar vs. User:Rmrfstar== Thank you very much for correcting my mistake. I do understand the distinction between the namespces, I just accidently used the wrong one. Thanks again for the very courteous and helpful message. Rmrfstar 04:40, 27 Mar 2005 *lol, thats really funny that I screwed that up to, I usually write to people's talk pages, sorry for requiring you to deal with another of my screw-ups. -- User:Rmrfstar 05:37, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) == User:Onefool == Shwa? That's not me, I even find this doubly ironic, as I'm one of the people pushing to get User:Iasson banned for using public accounts. (See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Iasson) Whatever. User:HumblefoolUser talk:HumblefoolSpecial:Randompage 23:42, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) :''Shwa?'' is a humorous sound effect, like going ''what?'', but more quizzically. And no problem, I was just worried you'd get an admin unfamiliar with what was going on to block me as a sockpuppet :) User:HumblefoolUser talk:HumblefoolSpecial:Randompage 18:23, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC) == More Hound's Tooth == It's probably OK to leave it up with a stub notice. Some "Star Wars" fan is likely to latch onto it and even if the link goes bye-bye, there's probably lots of other sites that have the info. - User:Lucky 6.9 18:37, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Alas == Hehehe, I know of one of my family now thanks to you. I havent talked to him/her yet, but thanks for finding out--User:Wonderfool User talk:WonderfoolSpecial:Contributions/WonderfoolSpecial:Emailuser/Wonderfool 15:28, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Re: User talk:68.111.238.67 == Hi; thanks muchly for apprising me. The block I originally gave the user expired after 24 hours. I haven't seen any dodgy edits from this user since March 27th, but I'll continue to do periodic checks of his/her contributions. Cheers, -- User:Hadal 07:13, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==VfD delisting== Hi Hydnjo, to answer your questions: first of all, the Virtual piano page apparently was never listed on VfD correctly: there is no link on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion to its subpage, so no one would ever have noticed its existence (how did you find it, by the way? I saw it going by this morning on Recent Changes). The normal policy is to list something for five days Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Unlisting_a_page_from_VfD at which time an administrator makes a decision based on consensus. It sure looks to me like we have consensus to keep the page under a new title. I'm a brand-new admin (as of two days ago) and have never done this; guess now's as good a time to learn as any. :-) Oh, and anyone can move a page -- click the "move this page" link, and it leaves a redirect behind at the old page name. Best, User:Antandrus 21:06, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC) :OK, I think I did that right. It's now here: Piano key frequencies and there are no double-redirects. A link to the archived deletion discussion is on the talk page. User:Antandrus 21:33, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::Regarding the links, they do not change by themselves (this can be one of the most time-consuming tasks related to page moves). Usually leaving links as redirects is OK, but in this case the new article name is so different from the old that manual changing is probably in order. I'll get started; it's more fun than finishing my 1040. Happy editing! User:Antandrus ==25A== Yeah, that would go there, to keep it sorted properly. Otherwise 25A goes with 250-259. --User:SPUI (User talk:SPUI) 15:34, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Edits == Better? More obsessed, perhaps. I got to where I am now in under three and a half months... User:Mel Etitis (Μελ_Ετητης)">User talk:Mel Etitis 21:18, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Re: User:SPUI == Hi Hydnjo, I noticed your comment on User:Kim Bruning's page and thought I'd drop you a line. One, it looks like you inserted your comment in the middle of User:Kevin Rector's comments. In general, it's best to add your section at the bottom of the page. While occasionally it makes sense to respond to individual sentences or paragraphs of a comment, it's probably better not to insert a new section heading with in it. I hope you don't mind if I rearrange the sections to restore his comment. Regarding User:SPUI, I think that's unlikely. He has a quirky sense of humor, and added that himself (you'll also notice that he's listed himself as a suspected sockpupper of Jesus and of SPUI/jajaja). Actually, "SPUI" stands for "Single Point Urban Interchange"—SPUI is interested in roads and transportation, as you'll no doubt notice from his userpage. Sorry for eavesdropping, and hope this helps. — User:Knowledge Seeker User talk:Knowledge Seeker 02:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) :I wouldn't call it a ''faux pas'', but then again I ''am'' the one who was eavesdropping. Anyway, I am glad to be of help. — User:Knowledge Seeker User talk:Knowledge Seeker 04:40, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) : I agree with Knowlege Seeker (Thanks for fielding the question! And my talk page is public, so I don't think you're eavesdropping :-)). Hmmm, even if SPUI ''were'' a sockpuppet of Sollog, it still wouldn't matter I think. As long as SPUI acts like, well, ''SPUI'', (and that's good behaviour), there's no way to be able to tell the difference anyway, so the (modified) turing test says we should just ''treat'' him as SPUI. ;-) User:Kim Bruning 11:14, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) == I completely agree... == I agree with your comment (thanx for it), and that rule is quite breakable, and maybe arbitrary... let's prepare a good argument for that rule, thanx for the google link :) --User:Greedyredbag 03:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==The Samurai Saga== My, but you're up late! Yeah, I really don't know what to do about this guy. I just hope he straightens up and flies right. If you feel it's appropriate, leave a comment of your own. Signing off for now. 'Night! - User:Lucky 6.9 06:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) == re user:zzyzx11 == The reference is probably more directly zzyzx. The road plays a part in a fairly recent Michael Connelly novel as well. -- User:Rick Block 12:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Better things to care about... == Yeah, right, thinking deeply about it, I'm sure it isn't worth to really care about twenty or 20, but, again, it is one of the many things that have to be re written on help and rules of [the great] Wikipedia. Well, we keep on contact, if I need anything (and if you need anything) I'll just msg you, (you can do so too). The dark armies then will come... [isolated phrase to fill space] --User:Greedyredbag 00:21, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==More on La Cienega== Oh, well. I thought the photos were credited to Caltrans. Are personal photos on a website covered under some sort of tacit copyright, I wonder? Just have to shoot some of my own next time I'm in the Land of La, which will probably be around Saint Swivven's Day. :^P Have some wine for me! It's Friday! - User:Lucky 6.9 03:11, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==It slices! It dices!== LOL! Oh, this is rich! First, we have no article on an iconic product. Then, we have a copyvio. Next, a temp article and finally, a substub under a different title! When this mess is over, I'm going to merge everything to Ginsu. Funny! - User:Lucky 6.9 02:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==Yikes== Thanks for alerting me to that mess. And a mess it is indeed. The Piano key frequencies are all one octave too high! I fixed the Piano page though. User:Antandrus 22:44, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC) :Ah, yes. I fixed the bottom octave again (oops) and removed the dashes as well, since C-1 is different from C1 (C-1 is one octave below C0, C1 one octave above). :B♭7 certainly looks nicer than Bb7, and a lot of music editors prefer this notation. Unfortunately it doesn't display on all computers, which is the only reason I don't use it myself (I'm not sure if it is a font or Unicode issue or what). :As of rules for using flats versus sharps, there is no actual rule; it looks like flats and sharps are equally balanced in this one, so F#, C#, Bb, Eb, Ab rather than all sharps or all flats. It might be better to label the black keys F#/Gb, C#/Db to avoid the confusion. :Hope this helps! User:Antandrus 15:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::And coincidentally I was just checking in on my watchlist. I ''think'' that the #/b is more common than b/#, i.e. G#7/Ab7, though probably there is no actual standard. It sounds right to me anyway. Thanks for helping edit this monster! User:Antandrus 18:34, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Your message == Yes — I'm slowly losing my life to Wikipedia. I'm slowly cutting down my watch list, but it doesn't seem to be helping. User:Mel Etitis (Μελ_Ετητης)">User talk:Mel Etitis 13:19, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Piano key frequencies == I'm not sure exactly what you want it to look like, but you can adjust the width of each column. You can put a percentage on each cell, like this: | width=25% | first cell contents || width=50% | second cell contents || width=25% | third cell contents which will look like this: {| border=1 width=100% cellspacing=0 |- | width=25% | first cell contents || width=50% | second cell contents || width=25% | third cell contents |} The percent is in relation to the table width. You can instead specify an exact width in pixels, like ''width=250''. Either way, if you do it on the first row it will apply to all rows. —User:Wahoofive (User talk:Wahoofive) 20:29, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) :Reference for wiki table markup: Help:Table. For more detail on HTML tables and their parameters, [http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html HTML 4.01 specification] —User:Wahoofive (User talk:Wahoofive) 21:38, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) == User Talk Archiving == I was reading your hints to User:Wyss and was wondering if archiving ''Username's'' talk under ''User talk:Username/Archive #n'' would satisfy your concerns. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 03:42, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC) :Nope, not really, my point was that ''User talk:/foo'' is only appropriate if it's a discussion of ''User:/foo''. Feel free to manage things however you want to however, it's just a matter of æsthetics after all. (sorry for the late reply, I was out for a walk) --User:fvw*">User talk:Fvw 00:40, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC) ==Piano key frequencies== You're quite welcome--and thanks for your fixes to the black key names and table width. The page is looking a lot better now. Wikipedia is strangely addictive, isn't it? User:Antandrus 20:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==SuperDude RfC== You two are terrific. Thanks for the nice comment in that RfC page! - User:Lucky 6.9 06:57, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Re: graduation == Thanks, Heidi and Joe!! It's funny; I ''was'' wondering if anyone had my page on his or her watchlist, if anyone would notice the change. No matter how busy my life gets I hope I will be able to make time for good old Wikipedia. — User:Knowledge Seeker User talk:Knowledge Seeker 06:44, 8 May 2005 (UTC) == Personal attack removed from vfd for Jeremy Broun == Not only the swarm of us chased out a clearly qualified newcomer, some of us continue to bite his heels. Two wikipolicies are violated: no personal attaks and don't bite newcomers. And please don't say that he insulted you first. User:Mikkalai 01:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC) * I voted to Keep this article although without enthusiasm. * Jeremy Broun wrote in part: ''As far as I am concerned I contributed these articles in the same way I contribute to the British media (except on this occasion I did not charge a fee).'' after which I added: :*''Comment. Whew, we thank you for not charging us a fee for your contribution. I guess now I can still send my kid to college. ;-) hydnjo talk 22:26, 8 May 2005 (UTC)''. *I did not and ''still'' do not consider my comment to be a "personal attack" as alleged by User:Mikkalai nor do I feel that Jeremy Broun ''insulted me first'' as suggested by Mikkalai. I do agree that my comment might not have been received with the humor that I intended. This may have been thought to be a violation of the wikipolicy "don't bite newcomers" and if this the case then I apologize. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 22:46, 9 May 2005 (UTC) **I see. I misunderstood your remark, taken out of context and apologize. This happens often when someone answers not directly under the commented line of text. Unfortunately there is so many things to be done, that I don't read everything very carefully, especially in cases like this one, when some person writes lengthy pieces. Unfortunately also, there is a difference between the spoken and written joke: your mood is not seen, so a joke may well be seen as an insult (of course, the same may happen with an uttered one). Therefore I rarely joke with strangers online. ** This particular guy is not so nasty as it could seem at the first glance. He genuinely did not understand what's happening. He is still here, contributing some bio articles about furniture designers. User:Mikkalai 00:41, 10 May 2005 (UTC) ::*Thanks for your comments. I agree with you that this guy is ''not'' nasty but is really trying to contribute useful information. I aso agree that more of a "hand-holding" approach would have been more productive. Thanks for pointing that out to me. Regards, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 01:14, 10 May 2005 (UTC) == Sethbot == The User:Sethbot is doing excactly what you describe regarding town name redirects, although it had missed New Hampshire because of a (now corrected) bug; I've also replied [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#.5B.5BDerry.2C_New_Hampshire.5D.5D_vs_.5B.5BDerry.2C_NH.5D.5D on the Village pump] as well. -- User:Seth Ilys 02:04, 27 May 2005 (UTC) == Message from the Bank of Wikipedia == If you like, I can open you an account. You may be my third client, so I can give you 16 free coins for being my third client, plus 1 coin for fixing the typo errors. You can use these coins as a medium of exchange here in wikipedia. For example, you can ask another wikipedian to make specific contributions, deletions, or cast votes for a subject,or fix typos, and pay him with your money. I am going to pay you 2 coins for each person you are going to introduce to the Bank. Whatever transactions you are doing with other wikipedians, please do them in User_talk:Bank_of_Wikipedia. The trusted employees of the bank are going to confirm the validity of your transactions, and they are going to copy them (after a short delay) to your official account that will reside in User:Bank_of_Wikipedia userpage. Please confirm that you want an account in our Bank. Thank you. User:Bank of Wikipedia 17:07, 29 May 2005 (UTC) :: You asked: "Does that get me another coin or am I being too demanding?". Yes of course you have another coin for your help. So, if you want it, I can open you an account containing 19 coins. Now, about the conversion rate for ψ1 to my coin, it is not fixed yet. I am going to fix it upon request. The problem with ψ1 is that it is not a scarce good, and everyone can coin as much ψ1 as he wants. My bank's coins are limited, our deposit is fixed, we are commited NOT to coin anymore coins in future, so we have difficulties to handle ψ's exchange rates. User:Bank of Wikipedia 21:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC) === From the Bank of Wikipedia. Your account is opened === I opened your account. You are my third client, so I am giving you 16 coins for free, plus 4 more coins as bonus for your services. I remind you that I am going to pay you 2 coins for each person you are going to introduce to the Bank. Whatever transactions you are doing with other wikipedians, please do them in User_talk:Bank_of_Wikipedia. The trusted employees of the bank are going to confirm the validity of your transactions, and they are going to copy them (after a short delay) to your official account that resides in User:Bank_of_Wikipedia userpage. You are welcome! User:Bank of Wikipedia 19:19, 30 May 2005 (UTC) === The two coins bounty === The two coins bounty (also the amount of free coins given when someone opens an account) are gifts given by the bank in order to attract clients, and they are not going to last for ever or they may change without notice. So you ve better hurry up and introduce our bank to us many new account holders as you can, in order to get profit of the current two coins bounty offering. I suppose you are going to introduce our bank by talking in a wikipedian's talk page, so you can use your talk as a proof. Or you may also ask a wikipedian to do a job for you, and pay him with money from your account. The wikipedian, in order to get the money you are giving to him, he has to open an account in our bank, and in that case you are going to gain the two coins bounty too. In the case there is a doubt whether a new account applicant is a sockpuppet and is controled by another account holder (in order to get free coins from the bank), the acceptance of the new account will be decided with a vote, where all elder account holders can express their opinion. User:Bank of Wikipedia 10:59, 31 May 2005 (UTC) === You have 204 coins! === Dear customer. Our bank applied User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules#Rule_3:_Every_new_account_holder_gets_1000.2F.28N.2AN.2BN.29_initial_coins_for_every_older_account_holder_where_N_is_the_number_of_account_holders., and now you have 204 coins in your account. User:Bank of Wikipedia 06:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) === You gave 33.33 coins to newby account JarlaxleArtemis === This is because of User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules#Rule_3:_Every_new_account_holder_gets_1000.2F.28N.2AN.2BN.29_initial_coins_for_every_older_account_holder_where_N_is_the_number_of_account_holders.. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. Yours truly. User:Bank of Wikipedia 06:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) === You gave 23.81 coins to newbie account User:Wragge === This is because of User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules#Rule_3:_Every_new_account_holder_gets_1000.2F.28N.2AN.2BN.29_initial_coins_for_every_older_account_holder_where_N_is_the_number_of_account_holders.. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. Yours truly. User:Bank of Wikipedia 06:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) === Lets discuss rule 3, and propose another rule === You said: "''Unless you're putting this "Rule 3" up for a vote then its your bank with your rules. If this is not the case then a new rule should be proposed and voted upon by the account holders.''" . Lets discuss the replacement of the rule 3 in the User_talk:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules , and vote for it. User:Bank of Wikipedia 06:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) === You gave 17.86 coins to newbie account User:Y0u === This is because of User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. Yours truly. User:Bank of Wikipedia 08:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) === You gave 13.88 coins to newbie account User:Hall_Monitor === This is because of User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules#Rule_3.1:_Every_newbie_gets_some_initial_coins_from_each_older_account_holder.2C_provided_that_the_.22newbie.22_is_not_a_sockpuppet.2C_controlled_by_an_older_account_holder._Older_account_holders_hold_the_power_to_judge_whether_a_newbie_is_a_sockpuppet_or_not.. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. In case you think you are giving a lot fo money to newbies, you may ask the amount given to newbies to be diminish (propose another A value in Rule 3.3). In case you think this newbie is a sockpuppet then, according to Rule 3.1, you have the power judge (together with the rest bank accounts) and expell him/her/it from the bank. Please inform the bank in case you dont want to receive furhter messages from the bank concerning newbies arrival and payement. Yours truly. User:Bank of Wikipedia 05:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC) === You gave 11.11 coins to newbie account User:Sockenpuppe === This is because of User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules#Rule_3.1:_Every_newbie_gets_some_initial_coins_from_each_older_account_holder.2C_provided_that_the_.22newbie.22_is_not_a_sockpuppet.2C_controlled_by_an_older_account_holder._Older_account_holders_hold_the_power_to_judge_whether_a_newbie_is_a_sockpuppet_or_not.. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. In case you think you are giving a lot fo money to newbies, you may ask the amount given to newbies to diminish (propose another A value in Rule 3.3). In case you think this newbie is a sockpuppet of an older account holder then, according to Rule 3.1, you have the power to User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules/Judgement#Is_User:Sockenpuppe_a_sockpuppet.3F (together with the rest bank accounts) and expell him/her/it from the bank. Please inform the bank in case you dont want to receive furhter messages from the bank concerning newbies arrival and payment. Yours truly. User:Bank of Wikipedia 06:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Re:WP:NAC Update == I've been busy of late, but it is on my todo list. I'll notify you when it is complete. --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) : Done. --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 10:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) :: Oops. I left a line in my code commented out. Fixed. --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 02:26, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Trip Ross== Thanks for the heads-up about the VfD not displaying as expected on the 2 June page. What a goofy error...it shows up in the history. In any case, I was able to bring it back to life on the 3 June page. Thanks again.User:Tobycat 03:52, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) == User talk:68.10.35.153 == User talk:68.10.35.153 has been busy indeed. I think you're right to suspect that he has edited before. Cheers, -User:Willmcw 20:30, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC) == Diamond Arts Sock Puppets == Oh, that gave me a laugh. Good puppets at least TRY to have different writing styles... ;P --User:Etacar11 02:39, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) == I gave up == Hope your happy hydnjo.me and my friends were just trying to vote,but no you and etacar11 called them sock puppets so now none of our votes count.And im a boy not a girl,thanks alot.user:Namela 8:47 jun 5 2005 :Let's hope it is true that he has finally given up... He has been saying the same for 3 days now, yet he insists on blanking user talk pages, whinning, and being a general pain in the ass... User:Sarg 10:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) :* Whats the deal with this Namela guy? user:Quin T 10:47 jun 6 2005 :*This diamond arts thing is getting really out of control now,some one needs to talk to namela and tell him whats up!user:Tuop 12:55 jun 6 2005 ==RfC== Well, I think this is pretty obvious: an abusing use of sockpuppets. You have been around more time than me. Would you recommend a RfC? User:Sarg 14:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Ok! In any case, I've been storing a list of all his sockpuppet accounts. Who knows, he might decide he wants some real vandalism. User:Sarg 14:29, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==FYI about bank== "taxing your patience" is a PUN on "tax". Only a pun. Nothin more. User:4.250.201.219 20:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Talk:Gasoline== Thanks for getting this one off the dime (finally). I just didn't know how it should be done. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 15:50, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Sure, I'm glad to help. I learned of this dispute via the request for comment, but I ended up becoming as passionately involved as many of the original parties. I'm glad that it (hopefully) has concluded. Now we just have to wait for an admin to move the article back to Gasoline. I can understand why some might be reluctant to do so, lest they invoke the wrath of the Petrol faction. (Of course, that applies to most situations of this nature.) Ideally, someone from the UK or another British English country will do the honors...er, I mean honours. —User:Lifeisunfair 18:37, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::To see deja vu all over again take a look at Yoghurt. Yoghurts my eyes but maybe that's just me. Kind of the same thing happened there. Some user moved Yogurt to Yoghurt and nobody noticed for a while (about a month). And then when a user tried to move it back all hell broke loose. The difference being that not as much attention was paid to the vote as was in the Gasoline/Petrol debate and of course the ''organized'' (or is it ''organised'') side won out, so it remains Yoghurt. I just don't like the stealthy way that it is being done. ~~Cheers~~ I mean regards of course, ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 21:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Oh, and take a look at the "See also" bs that's I seem to have triggered at Yoghurt. ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 21:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::Yeah, I've been trying not to involve myself in the great Yogurt/Yoghurt debate, but my curiosity finally drew me in. It isn't quite the same as the Gasoline/Petrol situation, but it's very similar. See my assessment below. —User:Lifeisunfair 04:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::My sincere congratulations. While some (including me) were becoming silly and frivolous, you held fast and especially held your (our) ground in the face of some pounding criticism. I'm impressed with your integrity and regard for this project. You have, by your example, shown more than you imagine. Thanks, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 02:14, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Your praise means more to me than I can possibly express. It feels wonderful to know that someone appreciates my efforts and cares enough to convey such warm sentiments. Thank you! —User:Lifeisunfair 04:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::Well, you certainly took User:Ed Poor behind the woodshed today. Your point by point rebuttal of his comments were ... well ... on point. I found myself feeling however, that you had him on the ropes long enough. On another topic, your editing skills and your "street smarts" here seem to belie your time on board. I really don't care on way or the other as to whether you are a reincarnation or not, I'm just happy to see someone being as constructive as you have been. And, if you're not a reincarnation then you're one hell of a fast study! ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 19:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::::I've never been able to allow standing arguments to remain uncontested. I don't need to have the last word, but I can't resist countering substantive (or even seemingly substantive) retorts. :::::Regarding the latter topic, this is my first and only Wikipedia identity. I have, however, contributed to various Internet communities (and occasionally dabbled in webmastery) since late 1996. And of course, before diving in, I attempted to learn as much about the Wikipedia editing process as possible (via observation). I still ended up making some silly mistakes in the beginning (such as "moving" an article by copying and pasting it), but I haven't done too much damage. :-) —User:Lifeisunfair 20:14, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::::Well anyway your contributions from day one didn't appear to be the work of a neophyte but then I didn't realize/realise that you had the benefit of pre-study. I'm sure our paths will join and cross over time. Regards, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 21:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::::::BTW, Who gets to remove this ''Pagename'' from WP:RFC, anyone or an admin? User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 15:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::::::I'm not sure, but I wouldn't feel comfortable removing it without some sort of mandate. —User:Lifeisunfair 15:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ===De-listing from WP:RFC and WP:RM=== The following Q & A is from WP:HD: :How does an article listed on these pages (specifically: was Petrol (Gasoline) and is now Gasoline) ultimately get de-listed? User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 20:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::If there is no doubt at all that the dispute is over, you can just remove it. It is helpful when people do this, as otherwise RFC becomes very congested. You should list it at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Article content disputes archive. Cheers, User:smoddy 20:45, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) Go for it! You deserve the satisfaction. ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 22:45, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I can't honestly say that "there is no doubt at all that the dispute is over," so I think that we should leave the Wikipedia:Requests for comment in place for the time being. The page move has transpired, however, so I will remove Wikipedia:Requested moves. —User:Lifeisunfair 02:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::How about pulling User: Ed Poor gasoline (petrol) and petrol (gasoline) listing from WP:RFC. It adds nothing but a little more confusion where none is needed. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 18:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Done. :-) —User:Lifeisunfair 18:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Talk:Gasoline message to User:Lifeisunfair== When does it (if ever) end? WTF is wrong here. Does the agenda of the ''few'' dissenters require a lifetime of keystrokes to keep them (the dissenters) under control or will they (the dissenters) kind of die out after a while. While I continue to be impressed by you're patience in this matter, I'm also confident that you could be contributing in other more constructive ways. If I can be of any help here (short of kneecapping of course) please let me know, my patience is at a lower threshold than yours. However, I'm also committed to this project first and the community second so long as it supports the first objective. There are those, who in this matter don't seem to care about anything but supporting a pre-scripted agenda, no matter the merits. In fact they just recently show up saying ''Hey, I didn't know 'bout this so lets have a do-over''. Clearly this is an orchestrated attempt to corrupt the process under which they (the dissenters) don't approve of the result. ''Cheers'', User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 03:34, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I wholeheartedly agree with all of the above, and I don't intend to continue investing time and effort in this discussion ad infinitum. There are some other articles that I'd like to work on, and I also have plenty of real-life matters to address. Hopefully, we're witnessing the debate's death throes. —User:Lifeisunfair 03:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::OK I'll be as optimistic as you are. You ''do'' have a calming effect with your strait-forwardness. With crossed fingers then, cheers and best wishes, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 04:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Jeez! Are you confidant about the "death throes" part? I recall some time ago our Secretary of ~~State~~ Defense referring to ''a few dead-enders'' in Iraq. ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 23:04, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::Indeed, as you noted previously, I'm being optimistic (and perhaps unrealistic). If this nonsense continues beyond the immediate future, I'll ''try'' to pull myself away. (Again, that might be unrealistic, given my apparent gluttony for punishment.) —User:Lifeisunfair 04:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Yoghurt vs. Yogurt== After you review the discussion at Talk:Yoghurt, what is your gut feel. I'm hard pressed to discern a strong preference (except along the usual party lines) as to which is the more appropriate ''Pagename''. Sorry to press you into service again but what do you think? We may not be as adept as you at fixing things but we'll give it a go if you if you think this article is misnamed. Thanks in advance, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 03:37, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Again, your words are too kind. Indeed, I do believe that the article is misnamed. Yogurt was the original title, and appears to be the ''far'' more common spelling. Even in the UK, it seems to be catching on. :I will say, however, that the move to Yoghurt was not entirely without merit, given the Turkish etymology. :On the other hand, it's obvious that the vote was unfairly stacked by members of the Wikipedia:UK_Wikipedians'_notice_board, who blindly supported Yoghurt because they were rallied to action on the basis of national loyalty. :If a new vote begins, you can rest assured that I'll make my opinion known on the Talk:Yoghurt. For now, it appears that the formal debate has ended, and I wouldn't feel comfortable stirring things up (no pun intended). —User:Lifeisunfair 04:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Yog(h)urt Cheese == There is no need, and no reason, to 'explain' a link, or do anything there, at all. Please stop modifying it. --User:Kiand 22:58, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I'm not going to break the 3RR here, but there is -absolutely no need- to 'explain' the spelling there. Please stop throwing fuel onto the fire over the spelling. --User:Kiand 23:05, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::Well, there may be a reason. If one chooses a link named Link and ends up at the article Linque it could cause some confusion. Unless there is some contextual requirement the link should bear the name of the article (I think). User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 23:15, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Oh, and I'm confident that you wont ''personally'' break the 3RR. Cheers. ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 23:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Care for a border? == ==User:Teknic== Very nice. I wish I knew how to do that.. ;-) User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 01:18, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Hi! Thanks for the compliment :) Borders are real easy to add to any page; it just takes a little HTML. I'll add a border to this page for you, but if you prefer not to have it ''you can remove it by deleting the four "div" lines I added to the top of this page.'' I picked a some colors for you that I thought were nice, but if you want to change them look for the seven #CC6699's and the one #CCFFFF. The #CC6699 is the border color and #CCFFFF is the page color. There is a list of codes you can use at Web colors or even more at [http://www.december.com/html/spec/colorsafe.html this website]. If you need some help or just want me to put everything back the way it was just leave a note on my talk page. —Teknic">User:Teknic^{User talk:Teknic-Special:Emailuser/Teknic-Special:Contributions/Teknic} 09:49, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::Well, thank you. I have disabled your border code (for now) as I found it a bit distracting however I will do some funning around with it. Also, the links you provided will be inspirational to at least getting my HTML feet wet. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 16:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) I'm just warning you that the HTML code is still standing at the top, in case you didn't notice :) User:Sarg 18:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Yeah I know. User:Teknic kindly supplied the code after I remarked on his ''Userpage'' look. I disabled it (for now) because I found it to be a bit distracting. I didn't want to delete it because I want to play with it a bit. But you're right, it does look a little odd just hanging up there so I'm going to move to my sandbox to do the experimenting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cheers, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 19:36, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::::I've copied your HTML border markup to my sandbox (for fooling around purposes). Also, I've relocated it on my ''Talkpage'' to enclose your edit. Question: Can you show me what needs to be done so that the border doesn't extend down into the next subject? Thanks again, User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 19:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::::I'll make the border end at this section by ''closing'' all four "div" tags with

. You can also try using just the "outset" and "inset" div's for a simpler border without the two "groove" div's, or play around with the "padding" and "border" widths to change the size. Have fun. —Teknic">User:Teknic^{User talk:Teknic-Special:Emailuser/Teknic-Special:Contributions/Teknic} 21:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::::::Of course (slaps forehead)! I should have been able to figure that one out. Anyway, thanks for the hand-holding. User:Hydnjo User talk:Hydnjo 22:10, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)