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:''For the Wikipedia "," see Wikipedia:Help Desk. For the information and assistance resource, see Help desk.'' Help Desk is a webcomic by Christopher B. Wright which debuted on March 31, 1996, making it one of the older webcomics on the Internet. The comic is a satire and cynical view of computer software companies in general, and of the antics of Microsoft, Apple, and Linux in particular. This is done through the employees at Ubersoft, a fictional computer software company that markets a number of software products, including a computer operating system called Nifty Doorways. The comic draws heavily from real-life events in the computer software industry and lampoons those events through the cast of characters. It features a daily slogan on the title bar. Examples are "It's a computer. It's supposed to hurt", "Some aim to please. We...aim", "In the Kingdom of the Blind...we could sell glasses", and "We put the pain in painstaking". == Ubersoft == Ubersoft is a fictional computer software company run by an ethereal being from another plane, otherwise known as Mr. Bunny the Happy Hoppy Computer Guy. Originally called Megasoft, the company was forced to change its name and logo due to software piracy copyrighting both. Famed for marketing tactics such as disabling software features until a customer pays for an upgrade to re-enable them, and implementing features into its software such as making it easier to exit programs by causing it to quit when a customer tries to print their documents, Ubersoft tries to be the bane of the existence of each of its customers. They also charge customers to receive Computer_bug, claiming they are feature enhancements and are thus only needed by those customers that want them. == Characters == === Alex === Alex is Help Desk's protagonist. He is a technical support technician working on Ubersoft's telephone support lines. His job has been described as "not necessarily to solve a customer's problems, but to make the customer feel that what they think is a problem isn't really a problem and they're wasting my time and yours." === The Boss === Also known as '"Mr. Bunny, the Happy Hoppy Computer Guy"', The Boss is an evil being from another plane of existance. He is usually followed around by flaming letters that spell the word "Boss." The Boss temporarily lost custody of the letters to Steve Case, but regained them after directing the company programmers to come up with a program to help malware developers create new Computer_viruses. Don't mention rings around him. === Binky the Cheerful Winking Paperclip=== Binky is a helpful little fellow that is (almost) always cheerful. No matter what it is you are trying to do, he'll greet you with a "Hey, Skipper! What can I help you with today?". Dealing with Binky and his always cheerful demeanor would be enough to send Linus Torvalds or Eric S. Raymond screaming into the night. Recently, he saved the world from Steve Jobs with the help of an old scary Linux guy. === Mark === Mark is the technical writer of Ubersoft. He spent a brief time on the Help Desk due to Alex being moved to Marketing during the time the lack of a moral compass had caused him to err on the side of the good and helpful. Mark is perhaps the most tormented character on the team, having been plagued by a computer with evil sentience (inspired from the cartoonist's real life computer woes), arrested under suspicion of being a terrorist for being a Linux user, arrested under suspicion of being a terrorist for having a CD burner, forced to be the company mascot, and brainwashed by Binky the Paperclip. === Alice === As the lone female character at Ubersoft, Alice is nonetheless able to hold her own quite undeniably. She is Alex's sister, but is a primary force in the Marketing Department. As a marketer, she is totally devoid of any moral scruples—driven solely by the determination to sell whatever Ubersoft may (or may not yet) have available—and to make sure that new vaporware is always on the horizon. What she lacks in a moral compass is more than compensated for in imagination. === Scott === Scott is the only member of the Help Desk crew allowed to help the customers although he is stopped by being forced to talk in a different language to the customer, originally permanently demoted to trainee due to telling a customer the truth then forced to quit for lying to his mother he was rehired to act as a moral compass for the rest of the Help Desk staff. He has attempted many times to make Ubersoft into a company that makes top quality software and cares about it's customers including acting like the rest of the staff and attempting to convert the Boss during his crisis of spirit. == External links == *[http://www.ubersoft.net Ubersoft.net] Web comics

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The Boss lost his letters [http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20020116.html| to Steve Case] in 2002. Earlier, in the beginning of 2001, The Boss stole [http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20010116.html| Steve Job's ego] in a card game. Please, look up the strips in question before switching details. User:Thesquire 03:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Alice's Entry == I think this version works better, because although the wording is clumsy, it's more in keeping with the spirit of Help Desk: ''As the lone female character at Ubersoft, Alice is nonetheless able to hold her own quite undeniably. She is Alex's sister, but is a primary force in the Marketing Department. As such, she is totally devoid of any moral scruples (due to being in Marketing, not Alex's sister) -- driven solely by the determination to sell whatever Ubersoft may (or may not yet) have available -- and to make sure that new vaporware is always on the horizon. What she lacks in a moral compass is more than compensated for in imagination.'' The current one is as follows: ''As the lone female character at Ubersoft, Alice is nonetheless able to hold her own quite undeniably. She is Alex's sister, but is a primary force in the Marketing Department. As a marketer, she is totally devoid of any moral scruples—driven solely by the determination to sell whatever Ubersoft may (or may not yet) have available—and to make sure that new vaporware is always on the horizon. What she lacks in a moral compass is more than compensated for in imagination.'' The difference being "''As such, she is totally devoid of any moral scruples (due to being in Marketing, not Alex's sister)''". I dunno, I just think that's funnier. *shrugs* -User:82.43.42.159 00:53, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC) :Bugger, was logged out... :-User:Veratien 00:53, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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:''Did you mean to go to the Wikipedia:Help desk? Or perhaps the webcomic, "Help Desk"?'' A help desk is an information and assistance resource that troubleshoots problems with computers and similar products. Corporations often provide help desk support to their customers via a toll-free number and/or website. There are also in-house help desks geared toward providing the same kind of help for employees only. A help desk with a large enough staff may have levels. Typically the first-level help desk are prepared to answer the most-commonly-asked questions. Like: *"Why won't my printer work?" "Well, is it turned on?" "Oops, no. (blush) Thanks!" *"The network doesn't work?" "Did you check the cable?" "OH!, Ok!" The second or higher levels handle more difficult calls. A typical help desk has several functions. It provides the users a central point to receive help on various computer issues. The help desk typically manage their requests via helpdesk software such as Heat or Trackit that allows them to track user requests with an unique ticket number. The user notifies the helpdesk of their issue and they receive a ticket number that has details of their problem. If the first level is able to solve the issue, the ticket is closed and updated with documentation of the solution to allow other help desk technicians to reference. If the issue needs to be escalated it will be dispatched to a second level. Larger help desks have a person or a team responsible for managing the tickets and are typically called queue managers. The queue manager is responsible for the ticket queues, which can be setup in various ways depending on the help desk size or structure. Typically larger help desks have several teams that are experienced in working on different issues. The queue manager will assign a ticket to one of the specialized teams based on the type of issue. The deskside team is responsible for the desktops, laptops and peripherals such as PDAs. The help desk will assign the deskside team the second level deskside issues that the first level was not able to solve. They setup and configure computers for new users and are typically responsible for any physical work relating the computers such as repairing software or hardware issues and moving workstations to another location. The network team is responsible for the network software, hardware and infrastructure such as servers, switches, backup systems and firewalls. They are responsible for the network services such as email, file, and security. The help desk will assign the network team issues that are in their field of responsibility. Some companies have a telecom team that is responsible for the phone infrastructure such as PBX, Voicemail, VOIP, telephone sets, modems and fax machines. The are responsible for configuring and moving telephone numbers, voicemail setup and configuration and are assigned these types of issues from the help desk. Not all of the help desk staff and supporting IT staff are in the same location. With remote takeover applications such as PcAnywhere and Dameware technicians are able to solve many of help desk issues from another location or their home office. There is a need for on-site support to physically work on some help desk issues, however help desks are able to be more flexible with their remote support. ''Help desk'' is a broadly-applied term referring a staffed resource--often, an actual desk, or a telephone service--that can help persons answer questions or to use resources such as audio-visual or computer resources. ==See also== * library reference desk * programming help desk * Wikipedia help desk * help desk humor * Technical support ==External links== *[http://www.imiddleton.com/ Help Desk Research] by an academic whose site has reports & downloads on success factors, statistics, industry etc

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If anyone knows, can they drop me a note at my talk page. User:Howabout1 Talk_to_me!">user talk:howabout1 15:39, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) == USS New York LPD 21 == I want a mailing address for Mr Bat Robinson, V.P. of Northrip Grumman Shipbuilding. (I saw his photo and name on the History Channel, about the building of the Uss New York), I'm trying to obtain a small piece of stell from the World trade Center in New York City. I am the Chaplian of the USS ASHLAND LSD ASSOCIATION, Inc.(for 9 years) I am a Past President, and hosted our reunion in Niagara Falls in 1997. I want the piece of steel, from the World Trade Center disaster, to make a small cross that I can carry with me to our reunions, to allow many of our members to use the cross as a prayer connection item. Most of the old crew, has never had the chance to touch a piece of that steel. I have, at the New York State Fair and in Dewitt, NY. I served on the USS Ashland LSD-1 during the Korean War for three years. I can do the milling, or recutting of the steel. It should not be bigger than 2.25" x 4.50" x 1/8" thick. We hold our annual reunions in a different city every summer. It will be in Philadelphia in 2006. I've tried several state politicians, for information, as to whom to contact for a piece of steel.But they have no idea, how to find a piece. Please contact me with an address. John J. Cooper 151 Norwood Ave. Syracuse, NY 13206, or by Email my phone is (315) 463-8089 == Copyright == I am in need of some pictures for the publication of a history book. I was wondering if the pictures on Wikipedia are public domain, or would I need to pay for them? Thank you. :Every image has a its own individual status, indicated on the image's page (click on any image, and possibly select another link for images on commons). Some are in the public domain, while others are under the GFDL. Some are fair use or used with permission, but this is now rare. In general, you can't contract with Wikipedia for the rights; you would instead need to contact the original copyright holder. I should also point out that, even if an image has an appropriate tag on its page, using it in a book may place an onus on you to verify its status for yourself. If you indicate which images you're looking at, we could be more specific. By the way, you can sign your comments here and on talk pages by appending four tildes (~~~~). You can point us at the relevant images by using an extra colon, e.g. :Image:Some filename.jpg, to avoid inlining the picture itself. User:Bovlb 04:22, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC) :You should also take advice from your printers on image quality and resolution issues. An image from a web site is very rarely of a good enough quality to use in a book, no matter how it looks on a screen. Without getting too technical, there aren't enough dots; printed paper needs more dots. (Some pictures in Wikipedia, do, however, offer higher resolution versions.) User:Notinasnaid 08:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) == stupidest request. but I really want == This may sound very stupid so yeah.... I was recently counting my numbers in [http://kohl.wikimedia.org/~kate/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Pmam21&dbname=enwiki here] and I noticed that I was nearing my 1,000^th edit. I cautiously waited till I got to 1,000 then suddenly I forgot and ended up making my 1,000^th edit a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:B-Con&diff=prev&oldid=15478400 stupid edit] related to my forum activities. I really wished my 1,000^th edit be a special one but I messed up... Is there any possible way to undo an edit? Just that one. I wouldn't mind if my 1,001^st edit was 1,000^th... Just please? any possible way? thanks User:Pmam21^{''User talk:Pmam21''}_{''User:Pmam21/articles''} 05:15, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) *I'm afraid not, unless one of your older edits gets entirely deleted from the database, you're stuck with it. - User:131.211.210.13 08:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) ** Isn't that what he's asking for? Edit #1000 to be deleted. — User:SebastianHelm User_talk:SebastianHelm 08:38, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC) *Edits are only deleted from the database if they're part of a page that is entirely deleted. That's unlikely to happen to a user page any time soon. - User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 12:00, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) **One of the earlier edits was adding a VfD to one of the pages. If that page infact gets deleted, would that edit disappear? (please please please...) User:Pmam21^{''User talk:Pmam21''}_{''User:Pmam21/articles''} 18:34, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) ***I believe so - my edits around the 2000 mark (I was watching, I confess...) went a bit screwy because I happened to be tagging a lot of articles as speedy, so they'd get that edit counted and then discounted as soon as the page went. User:Shimgray 19:18, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) ****That's sounds great. Even if my 1,001^st isn't my best quality edit, it's still better than my 1,000^th... User:Pmam21^{''User talk:Pmam21''}_{''User:Pmam21/articles''} 19:47, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) == What do I need to do to make an article searchable? == Greetings. I have created the following page, which I can view at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tsunami_PTSD_Center However, I am unable to find this via search, even when I enter the exact term in the search tool. Please advise. I thank you in advance for any help. Best, Joe (uname: JKustelski) Update I have just created this page: which is searchable by the exact term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami_PTSD_Center Is this all that I need to do, or is the next step to go and link the Tsunami PTSD Center into applicable articles? Thanks, JK :You couldn't find the article because you created it in the "Wikipedia" namespace (where we create policy) instead of the "Main" namespace (where we create articles). The search feature does not search the "Wikipedia" namespace unless you specifically request it to. Then, you recreated the article in the "Main" namespace by cutting and pasting, resulting in two separate articles. :Basically, this is just a minor issue, an easy mistake to make. In the future, when creating articles, make sure you put them in the "Main" namespace (in other words, don't prefix "Wikipedia" to the beginning of the title). However, when a page is in the wrong namespace, or is at the wrong title, we use the "move" command at the top of the page to move it, rather than cutting and pasting, because cutting and pasting results in extra work. Don't worry, however, we'll get it straightened out. Please do not edit this article again until we get everything fixed. :If you have other questions, ask them on User talk:Essjay -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 06:19, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) :Problem solved. -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 06:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) == routers, hubs, gateways and possibly switches == can anyone put together a comparison chart or explain the actual differences and similarities between the three or four confusing items ? all that i read is just wimpy, airey, meaningless, wordy definitions. thanks tom mcintyre mcintyremcintyre@hotmail.com :Hubs and switches are passive network components that provide network connectivity on the hardware level (with today's equipment, usually ethernet) and rely on the network software (today, usually TCP/IP) to handle the connections - which basically means that all machines connected to a hub/switch must be configured in such a way that they are able to see each other on the network. The difference between a hub and a switch is that the hub just provides one common backbone connection for all machines connected to the hub whereas a switch establishes a separate connection for each machine that wants to talk to another machine (which gives a performance boost because on a hub, two computers interchanging large amounts of data will slow down the whole backbone while on a switch, these two computers will have a connection for themselves without influencing other computers connected to the same switch). :Routers and gateways, on the other hand, are active components that provide some sort of interconnectivity between different networks (these might be different IP subnets, an IP subnet and some other type of network, or whatever) - the difference being that a router is generally assumed to be a hardware device that can be configured to provide gateway functionality while a gateway is the logical funtionality rpovided aby a router (the distinction makes sense since gateway functionality does not necessarily have to be provided by a router, it can be provided by any computer with at least two network adapters). Most routers also provide the functionality of a hub/switch, and the terms "router" and "gateway" are often used without a clear distinction, so I guess there's in fact some confusion about those terms :P -- User:Ferkelparade User_talk:Ferkelparade 08:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) == The assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. == Sir, Can you make a link to this article on your MLK assassination page? http://crimemagazine.com/05/martinlutherking,0612-5.htm == David White? == I was just scrolling through the Wiki obits, when I came upon David White, who had drowned at the age of 50, in his swimming pool on Gibralter, this past January 8, 2005. I went to see who he was, and came up with somebody supposedly born in 1916 (? - I may have the year wrong), who had his big career break in the 1960s as a soccer manager, and died around 1990. I don't know who either of these people are, and I don't know how to fix this. But something obviously is wrong with the links and/or information. Help? --User:Mothperson 18:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) : We've only one entry for a David White (who must have been some kind of miracle-worker, if he got Dundee to win anything); my guess is that someone entered the name, saw it wasn't a redlink, and didn't bother to check it was the right person. It's quite common for names like this, which are almost guaranteed to be shared by two people; unfortunately, no idea who he was, or I'd put in a disambiguation page. User:Shimgray 19:03, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) : Oh, here we are - senior military officer in Gibraltar. [http://news.mod.uk/news/press/news_press_notice.asp?newsItem_id=3055] Death was a bit odd, given it was viewed as unlikely to be accidental, but the police ruled out foul play. User:Shimgray 19:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) :There also seems to be a David Patillo White, so if you make a disambiguation page put him in too. User:Howabout1 Talk_to_me!">user talk:howabout1 19:07, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) ::Shimgray already knows how useless I am with moving stuff around. I don't know how to make a disambiguation page. But if one or both of you would give me intructions, that did not involve entering one of those dreaded Wiki roundabouts, I would like to learn. --User:Mothperson 19:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Okay. Start tutorial - We have David White. What we want is to end up with a disambiguation page, linking to all three. Go to that link, click "move page", and send it to... oh... David White (footballer). This'll make "David White" a redirect to "David White (footballer)". User:Shimgray 20:15, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Next, when you've done that, click on the link to David White. It should redirect you to ...(footballer), and you get a link saying "(Redirected from David White)" Click on that, it takes you back to the redirect page. Edit this page, add to it (which notes it as a disambiguation page), then write links to the three articles in question - David White (footballer), David Patillo White, and our naval chap - not sure what to call him. David White (officer}, perhaps? May as well leave it as a redlink anyway. And we have our disambiguation page! Let me know if this doesn't work. User:Shimgray 20:21, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::::Well....... At one point I had a page with a blue David White (footballer), a blue David Patillo White, and a red David White (naval officer) listed on it, under a "1. Redirect from etc." Then I saved it, and now I don't know where that page is, and what I have is a David White (footballer) page, and David White (redirect from David White (footballer) page , although I suppose I could find the David Patillo White page if I went looking. So, maybe I did the right thing, and maybe I didn't. I can't tell. But I did read your instructions several times, and they seemed pretty clear. So is the plain David White our officer, even if he was in red? And now what, since only the footballer has any information on his page? You must understand, you are trying to instruct (and very valiantly!) someone who wore mismatched shoes to the post office, and - omg - everywhere - today, and did not realize it for over 5 hours. severely organizationally challenged User:Mothperson 21:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::::Hmmmm... I just change the redirect page David White to a disambig page. Either you put it in the wrong place or it didn't show on my computer. You're listed in the history of David White. User:Howabout1 Talk_to_me!">user talk:howabout1 21:13, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) ::::::It's all working now, at least... two with content, one redlink, who's the drowned guy we were looking for in the first place. User:Shimgray 21:15, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) So did I completely screw up, or only mostly almost completely screw up? Which David White history am I in - the footballer or the no-description? --User:Mothperson 21:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) And I added the disambig thing at the top of the page - was this the wrong place? You're in the history of David White, the disambig page - but it seems, for some reason, that when you deleted the redirect and added the disambig template it didn't save properly [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_White&diff=15517573&oldid=15516119]. Otherwise, worked fine. User:Shimgray 21:22, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) *Aha! I get it. I've been having problems with my "save"'s lately. I think I did it right, except for that, then. Thanks to you. Yay! Shimgray, I've saved your directions on a separate document. If I can teach myself two systems of CAD, I ought to be able to master some of this wiki stuff, even if my shoes don't match, damn it. Thank you very much, both of you. --User:Mothperson 21:36, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) Except now I've just read about David White, and am depressed. == reference citing == How do I cite Wikipedia for a grad. paper? Havene't done one in 20+ years & I can't figure it out. Just the name & web address or what? Please hurry! Thanks 6/20/05. watts. : See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. User:Shimgray 20:42, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) == qs and gs == When underlined words appear, one never knows if g's are g's or if q's are q's. The underline covers the bottom part. Could you please fix this problem? Thx. :Test: gq gq. I see a difference, but in a small font only one pixel.--User:Patrick 22:42, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC) == glossary == Dear Wiki! I didn't find glossary in the encyclopedia page. I am in the Business of earthquake, his origins and his forecast. A terminology in the use of Wiki portal is strange to me. Respectfully, konstantin oz@oz.pro.br You can use the Search/Go bar, which should be in the left column of your screen. Type in a keyword and press enter; if there is an article, it should go there, otherwise it searches all the articles. Wikipedia has an article on earthquake earthquake- see if that helps you. User:Flcelloguy | User talk:Flcelloguy| User:Flcelloguy/Desk 22:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) : A page of Wikipedia-specific glossary terms (which I think is what you want) is at Wikipedia:Glossary. The Portugese-language Wikipedia (I apologise if I'm guessing wrong - I'm guessing you speak Portugese, as you're Brazilian) doesn't seem to have a specific glossary page, but it has help pages :pt:Wikipedia:Ajuda, which may help if you're more comfortable in that language. (Wikipedia:Help has a lot of links to help pages in other languages, on the left-hand side of the page) User:Shimgray 22:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Duplicate articles, not sure what to do. == I was browsing through unmanned space mission articles and came across a duplicate entry for the Kecksburg Incident. Here are the two articles in question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_Incident I'm not sure what to do in this case. I feel the first article is superior to the second, should it be deleted? I'm not sure how I would go about doing that if that's the case. My only editing of Wikipedia articles so far as been reverting obvious vandalism, making minor edits, or adding new information. Thanks in advance. :You could WP:BOLD, and merge the material together into the first article, changing the second article into a Wikipedia:Redirect. User:Bovlb 05:05, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC) : Wikipedia:Duplicate articles describes what you could do if you don't have enough time to do the merge yourself. 05:00, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC) == Template for telling people not to post copyrighted material? == Is there a template similar to Template:Test1 or Template:Test2 that I could post on people's talk pages, telling them not to post copyrighted material on Wikipedia (and perhaps explaining why)? User:TheCoffee 05:59, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I created Template:Cv for my own use, but I must note that this is not an "official" template. User:Gamaliel 06:04, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) This template is also available: . It produces:

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Article, but we regretfully cannot accept Wikipedia:Copyrights text borrowed from web sites. For more information, take a look at our Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. Happy editing!

Hope this helps. -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 06:11, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) == the difference between subst and nothing. == What's the difference between using the template normally and using subst:? User:Pmam21^{''User talk:Pmam21''}_{''User:Pmam21/articles''} 06:53, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) *Nevermind. got it now. User:Pmam21^{''User talk:Pmam21''}_{''User:Pmam21/articles''} 07:18, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) Just for the benefit of other editors who come along and may not know, using just the template causes the template name to apper when editing the page. Using "subst:" (as in causes the template text to appear as it is displayed on the page and makes the text editable. An example: The template name is , and when inserted shows the text "This is an example template." If you just use the template, when an editor clicks on "edit this page" they will see and will not be able to edit the template text. If you use "subst:", when an editor clicks on "edit this page" they will see "This is an example template" and will be able to edit the text. -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 07:39, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) *less bandwidth usage is the only goal with subst:. I'm starting use it but not all the time. lol User:Pmam21^{''User talk:Pmam21''}_{''User:Pmam21/articles''} 08:01, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) It also has the benefit that it doesn't confuse new users if you use one of the welcome templates on their talk pages. It can be disconcerting when you click "edit" but the text doesn't show up. I try my best to subst: any time I use a welcome template. -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 08:40, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) **Where do you get the welcome template anyway? I currently modify what I got when I first came here and post it to new people's talk page. thanks. User:Pmam21^{''User talk:Pmam21''}_{''User:Pmam21/articles''} 16:49, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) ***Template:Welcome, IIRC. User:Shimgray 16:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) Also, Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace has several. I use because most of the time, someone else gets there before me. (To use welcome4, the |Essjay should be changed to your username). -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 05:49, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) == create a -pedia == how do u create a -peida? eg: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Bulbapedia] about Pok�mon? please do be replying on my talk page - User:Supersaiyanplough|User talk:Supersaiyanplough 09:36, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==68.14.62.73== where do i report [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=68.14.62.73 vandalism] by User:68.14.62.73 -User:Bijee 09:44, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) Try Wikipedia:Vandalism in Progress. If it's particularly nasty, try Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 09:56, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) :Thanks a lot -User:Bijee 10:36, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Uploading an SVG image source == I'm trying to upload an SVG source of a PNG used in an article, but I get rejected every time with the message: '".svg" is not a recommended image file format.' ...and there is no way to ignore the warning and upload it anyway. Does wikimedia use any file format detection, or does it just look at the file ending? If it does, I could change the name to something accepted, but it would be rather confusing and ugly. What's the reason for it being blocked any way? Security issues? It's not going to be used directly in an article, just linked from the PNG's page to allow others to edit it (like Wikipedia:Image_source_files says). --User:Gustavb 10:01, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC) :I think it is because of security, see also m:Help:Images and other uploaded files#Supported file types; miscellaneous. You can put the source in a page, see e.g. m:Image:Flago de Esperanto.svg (here the source is in the page in addition to being uploaded, when this was still possible). --User:Patrick 11:57, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) ::I see...thanks for the directions! --User:Gustavb 17:01, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC) == Product Submission == I would like to list my companys software product "AdventNet Simulation Toolkit" in your site. What should I do ? Regards, Latha. Latha: Thanks for your interest in Wikipedia. However, one of Wikipedia's policies, Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_no#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox, explicity prohibits advertisements. Our goal at Wikipedia is to create an encyclopedia, and as part of that, anything that is not encyclopedic is prohibited. Perhaps you could list your software at a software-specific reference site? If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask on User talk:Essjay -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 12:34, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) Question about Douglas County Missouri moved to Wikipedia:Reference desk User:DJ Clayworth 14:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Request for merge removal== How do I get a "request for merge" notice removed? The article in question was about four hours old, created by me out of an article I was expanding. The initiator of the request did not bother to look at the history, nor give a reason why he thought it should be merged. Now, he is abstaining from comment, and the request is still in place. Is this some sort of diabolical Wiki torture I must endure for an unspecified amount of time? I have continued to work on the article since the request, but I won't any longer until the merge request is removed. Please advise. --User:Mothperson 13:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) :From Wikipedia:Duplicate articles, you can remove the notice or change "merge" to "mergedispute" and discuss the issue on the article's talk page. Since you've tried to discuss it with the user who added the notice, it sounds to me like removing it would be perfectly justified (but if it comes back, then change it to mergedispute and try to resolve it on the talk page). -- user:Rick Block (user talk:Rick Block) 14:17, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) ::Thank you. --User:Mothperson 14:29, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Watchlist filtering == Can I hide the edits made by myself, like being able to hide minor edits? I know what edits I've made, so I don't really need to be informed of them! (And they're always on the contibutions page for when I do) MyNameIsClare">User:MyNameIsClare talk_">User_talk:MyNameIsClare 13:24, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) : User:JesseW has a User:JesseW#Bookmarklet that does just this. I haven't tried it myself, but I hear it's worked well for others. --User:Diberri | User talk:Diberri 17:37, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) Question about Birthdate of Adam moved to Wikipedia:Reference desk#Birthdate of Adam. User:DJ Clayworth 14:09, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Wikipedia in my browser... == I use Mozilla Firefox as my primary browser and Wikipedia does not display correctly (though looks fine in IE). To be specific, none (or few) of the images load. I think this has to do with how the page is set up. An apt question might be, "Why does Firefox not display Wikipedia correctly?", but until it does, why does Wikipedia not display correctly in Firefox? :I doubt it's firefox's fault, there are hundreds of regular wikipedians who use firefox. Check your proxy settings, perhaps disabling proxies altogether will solve your problem? If it doesn't, try copying the proxy settings from your internet explorer configuration. --User:Weyes(User talk:Weyes) 16:14, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC) ::I use Firefox, and it seems fine. You may have the images blocked on your browser. Go to a spot a picture would normally appear (say, the featured picture on the main page), and right click it. See if the "Block Images Upload.Wikimedia..." is checked. If it is, uncheck it. This is an ad-blocking tool from Firefox; you may have checked it accidentally. Hope this helps. User:Flcelloguy | User talk:Flcelloguy| User:Flcelloguy/Desk 20:31, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) :This is on a Mac so it might be slightly different for you, but in my Firefox preferences there is a checkbox on the 'Web Features' pane for 'load images'—underneath this there is a checkbox titled 'for the originating web site only'. My browser will only load images on Wikipedia pages if the first checkbox is checked and the second one unchecked. User:JeremyA 20:53, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Video and DVD covers == Take a look at these two templates: * Template:DVDcover * Template:Video tape cover Why does video tape covers have to be low-resolution and not DVD covers according to the templates? User:Thorpe 16:41, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Length of a article == How can i find out how many characters or bytes a Wikipedia Page has? :View the source and paste into a word processor with a letter counting tool? If the page is larger than 32 kilobytes a warning will appear at the top of the edit window, but that will only give you the rounded size in kilobytes, and only works if the page is larger than 32k. --User:Weyes(User talk:Weyes) 18:18, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC) ::The size (in kilobytes and words) of each matching article is indicated in the special:search results as well. This size is as of the last time the search indices were rebuilt, so may not be useful if you want strictly up to the minute size information. -- user:Rick Block (user talk:Rick Block) 01:17, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) == Images == How do you edit a page to replace an image with another image of your own? : I'm not 100% sure this is what you're asking about, but to replace an existing image with an updated version, just Special:Upload the new image using the same exact name as the existing image. But in many (most?) cases you should just upload your image separately (i.e. ''not'' replacing the existing one), keeping the original image intact. Then edit the article to refer to your new image. --User:Diberri | User talk:Diberri 22:24, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC) *If you want to replace an image in an article, simply update the file it links to. Can you give specifics? It would help to give a more detailed answer. - User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 07:39, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) == South Amboy New Jersey == Hello! My name is Jennifer Owens and I am the local historian/local info person for our library--Sadie Pope Dowdell Public Library. I was actually doing a project citing the top sources for quick local facts and came across your page. I did read that topics are open to editors and contributors and was wondering what type of material you would be interested in posting about South Amboy? I see that you have the general census and geographical data but I wanted to see what we could work out together to make your site a good source for people looking for local info. Let me know what you think--my contact info is pixxiebear (located) yahoo.com I look forward to hearing back soon----- Jennifer : Email fired off, and email here obfuscated to avoid web-crawlers... User:Shimgray 23:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Edit didn't happen! == I attempted to edit the page dedicated to Margaret Thatcher, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher - which as I type only contains the text "MARGARET THATCHER IS A WAR CRIMINAL. ARREST HER IMMEDIATELY." Specifically, I reverted to the most recent legitimate version. However, after submitting my change, nothing happened .. my change didn't hit turn up on the page's history, nor in my own list of 'Contributions'. Wh'appen? :-/ Thanks, James User:Jamesgibbon 23:46, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I can't tell you for sure what happened, but I do notice that it appears to be protected at the moment. See the relevant discussion Talk:Margaret_Thatcher#Massive_Vandalism. It may be that it was protected between the time that you hit the "edit" link and the time you tried to submit your change. —HorsePunchKid">User:HorsePunchKid→龜">User talk:HorsePunchKid 00:54, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC) :: That seems unlikely, since the 'vandalised' version was in effect following my attempted reversion. However, it's been fixed now as you know. Thanks for your reply. User:Jamesgibbon 01:16, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Excel chart == I want to upload a chart and a table created in Excel in an xls file. I have saved the particular chart and table to use in a Word file as well. How do I upload this image to use in an article. I have searched all over for instructions for transfer of this to an image in Wikipedia. Apparently, I must make a jpg or png file of an Excel chart and cells. Thanks : May I humbly suggest that, irrespective of whether it is technically possible to upload them, Excel files are not generally a good method to represent information here. Not all potential readers have access to Excel, or a compatible spreadsheet program. User:Jamesgibbon 00:28, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::If you want, open up your Excel file, and press "Print Screen". Then open up Paint, and press Control+V (Paste}. This will paste the screen shot onto paint, where you can crop it, save it, and then upload it. User:Flcelloguy | User talk:Flcelloguy| User:Flcelloguy/Desk 00:38, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) I usually copy the table to Microsoft FrontPage and save it from there as HTML. If you don't have FrontPage, you can export to XML spreadsheet and get the following in the middle of a lot of gobbledygook : Jon Doe Jane Doette

Then replace the and similar tags with either correct HTML syntax or with the Wiki table syntax, and you got a nice table in Wikipedia! — User:SebastianHelm User_talk:SebastianHelm 04:40, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC) == Atlantis? == I know where Atlantis is? And it is not in the Atalantic or anywhere close? wattsb@ucihs.edu Please refer factual questions to the WP:RD. Thanks. User:Flcelloguy | User talk:Flcelloguy| User:Flcelloguy/Desk 00:38, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Were I wanting to rename my account. == Just a minor change, removing the last name. Is there a page with relevant information or protocol? User:Shem Daimwood^{User talk:Shem Daimwood} 01:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) *Some useful information on this subject can be found Wikipedia:Changing_username. User:JeremyA 02:29, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == create a -pedia == how do u create a -peida? eg: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Bulbapedia] about Pok�mon? please do be replying on my talk page - User:Supersaiyanplough|User talk:Supersaiyanplough 04:58, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Help == I want to put up a subject for others to research. Where do I post it? How do I do that? Please help, I find this a bit confusing and I'd hate to get it wrong. Zebedee If you want a certain question answered, try the WP:RD if you want an article, you can post it on Wikipedia:Requested articles. Alternatively, you can look for a fitting Wikipedia:WikiProject to pose your suggestion. - User:131.211.210.13 11:01, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Basilicas (language question) == I want to add the list of basilicas in The Netherlands to List of basilicas. What's the policy? Original Dutch names or English translation? The page isn't very consistent right now. User:Fnorp 10:49, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Probably best to go with English translation; many of the English speakers wouldn't have a clue of what the Dutch names mean. (I know I wouldn't.) -- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 10:52, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) ::Thanks, I will do that. User:Fnorp 10:56, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == transport maps between SAARC nations == sir/madam i am a student and require the transport (rail,road and air) maps in between the SAARC nations. your help will be highly appreciated. yours sincerely anumod mail me at anu100mod@rediffmail.com == Anonymous Contributions == I'm sorry if this is mentioned somewhere in the help section already, but I've been looking for a while. I've made a few contributions anonymously, and I just decided to sign up. Is there a way to list the contributions I made anonymously under my username rather than my IP? :Currently, no there isn't. There used to be a way, Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit, but the service has been suspended. As it stands, there is currently no way to gain attribution for previous anonymous edits. (But see that policy for suggestions on how you can keep track of your anon edits.)-- User:Essjay � User_talk:Essjay 11:33, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) ::You could just use this tag (cut and past): Special:Contributions/Your IP# Here on your user page. User:Admiral Roo (User talk:Admiral Roo)( Special:Contributions/Admiral Roo) 18:56, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) == Remove this adware from my computer now == Try [http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/ Ad-Aware], or any of the other spyware#Software. User:JRM � User talk:JRM 16:40, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC) *Put them at the bottom. Like they are now, they appear more important than they really are. (In disambiguations, you can add them behind the sentence they used to be part of), so people can easily use them to make a full article. - User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 21:19, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) == Help == Can someone help wikify all of my User:Admiral Roo so the meta tags , , and pleas? I seem not to know how to make the tags correctly. And in the future, can someone pleas tell me how to make these tags correctly? Thank you. User:Admiral Roo User talk:Admiral Roo| Special:Contributions/Admiral Roo 17:38, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) *Those templates are not designed to do what you requested. Please use these links instead: **w:User:Admiral Roo **Wikiquote:User:Admiral Roo **Wiktionary:User:Admiral Roo :User:Zzyzx11 User talk:Zzyzx11 18:56, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Inline External Links == What is the consensus about the use of external links in articles? I know that normally, they are supposed to be at the bottom in the 'External Links'. However what about the ones in these two articles: The Game and Street photography? --User:Simonfairfax User_talk:Simonfairfax 20:44, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) *I am not sure what you are asking about Street photography. What I can tell you is that The Game is actually a Wikipedia:Disambiguation � a navigational aid which lists other pages that might otherwise share the same title. Thus, they are generally just a list of links. User:Zzyzx11 User talk:Zzyzx11 21:43, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) == What happened to my edit? == I've read alot of information trying to figure out why my edit was changed. It was about the most recent name change to Texas State University-San Marcos. While my bit was lengthy, it was unbiased and highly accurate. I just want to know why it got cut down so much. My current hypothesis is that 1) it was too long and had too much detailed information to be in an encyclopedia, and/or 2) it was somehow interpreted as biased. Thanks, ktex83 :According to the Wikipedia:Edit summary listed on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_State_University-San_Marcos&action=history the history of this page], the user who edited that paragraph wrote "greatly shortened absurdly excessive discussion of the name change process". User:Zzyzx11 User talk:Zzyzx11 21:43, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::It seems to have been "greatly shortened" to the point where it doesn't mention that not everybody saw the change as a good idea. -- User:Cyrius|User talk:Cyrius 11:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Question about adding external links == Having used Wikipedia many times over the last year or so as a research source for my schooling, I am highly aware of the wonderful service the Wikipedia community provides to their users. I recently contributed to my first article and ran into a problem however, and would like some advice. The article in question is about Constantine Maroulis. I happen to run two fan sites for this performer, and I wanted to contribute to the article (especially since there were factual errors and personal information that did not need to be there!) I also noticed that one of my sites (Maroulis Media Online) was included in the External Links list, though the other (Greek Speak) was not. So one of the first corrections I made was to add my other site as a resource. I have since updated other links on the lists and edited the main article itself. Two other contributors have disputed my edits and have repeatedly removed one of my sites (Greek Speak) from the list (even accusing me of spamming!) While I'm aware that Wikipedia discourages self-promotion, I didn't feel that my inclusion of a site that I happen to run fell under that category since I did not advertise that it was my site, nor have I edited the article content to promote my site (plus my site is relevant to the subject of the article.) Yet one of the other contributors insists that my inclusion of the site in the links list is a violation of Wikipedia policy. Is this accurate? Are we not allowed to include links to fan sites in the external links portion of a celebrity's Wikipedia article? I did some random research and found at least 10 other celebrity articles that include links to fan sites in thier external links list, but I would still like to know if I'm violating some Wikipedia policy or not. (I should note that this is not a request for mediation or dispute resolution since I'm confident I can work this out with the other party. I just want to cover all of my bases.) Any input you can offer is appreciated. And thank you again for starting this project! ''Edit: I just noticed I wasn't logged in anymore! My username is Bonavox.'' --User:64.60.174.2 22:55, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) :The policy is described at Wikipedia:External links. For your (and other's) convenience, I'll copy and paste the relevant sections below: : Maybe OK To Add... : 3. Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such. In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link. :Hope this helps. BTW, you can check "Keep me logged in" if you are on your own computer- that way you don't have to bother signing in every time! User:Flcelloguy | User talk:Flcelloguy| User:Flcelloguy/Desk 23:10, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::Thank you very much! I'll inform the other person and see if there is a better way to list the links that we can both agree on. User:Bonavox 23:42, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Iran== There is a table of content on the Iran page that needs to be moved to allow the main article to be visiable. I do not know how to move it. anon. * I don't see any particular problem with the Table of contents. You'll have to scroll to see the full page anyway. You may want to consider registering. If you do, you can set an option in your preferences to not show the WP:TOC in an article. - User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 08:38, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC) ==Locked data== Since 18th June, whenever I load Wikipedia on my home computer, the title page is locked at that date. When I view Wikipedia through my computer at work, the title page is update. What is goin on? Peter Maggs--User:Peter Maggs 05:37, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) *Your computer has saved old pages for quicker serving you with a page, try Wikipedia:Bypass your cache for more info. - User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 08:35, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Help desk

This looks great - and it's on my watchlist. :) User:MyRedDice 15:25, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC) It's on mine too. Great idea, whoever implemented this. User:Meelar 22:44, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC) Looks like it was User:Ludraman - and yes, it's great :) --User:Camembert Yep, it was Ludraman's idea, and he set it up. He's done good work with the Wikipedia:Welcoming committee; he helped a lot with the tutorial too. When this page was still in the idea stage there was some discussion of renaming it to Wikipedia:Newcomers' help desk. If I remember, no one objected and several agreed. I prefer the name Help Desk since it doesn't imply that we're segregating new users out of the Village Pump entirely. This is to provide an alternative, somewhere a newbie can ask questions without worrying about getting barked and without cluttering up the pump. It's not (AFAIK) supposed to imply that newcomers ''can't'' post to the main pump if they have reason. Anyway, if I don't hear objections, I'm going to move it tomorrow. User:Isomorphic 05:45, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC) :Sounds like a good idea to me. Apart from anything else, the meaning of "help desk" is clear, while "village pump" is a bit cryptic. --User:Camembert ::I agree that having a different name from the Wikipedia:village pump is a good idea. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 16:36, Apr 13, 2004 (UTC) :::Should I move it, then, and redirect this page? User:Ludraman | User talk:Ludraman 18:01, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::::Looks like User:Isomorphic's done it already. User:Ludraman | User talk:Ludraman 18:08, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC) :::It's been under discussion more than once and was always supported, so I just went ahead and moved it. BTW, this page was a great idea Ludraman. User:Isomorphic 20:21, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::::Someone suggested it, I just implemented it. Thanks, though. Is the lead section ok? Also, how long should we let this get before we start archiving? I was thinking that as soon as it gets to forty rm the first twenty, or something like that. It shouldn't get ridiculously long like the main Village pump. User:Ludraman | User talk:Ludraman 21:04, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC) :::The header looks good. I don't have a strong opinion on when to archive. User:Isomorphic 21:22, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC) I'm not sure a lot of this needs archiving. Often, the answers already exist on the relevant help pages, but newbies haven't found these yet. They are no more likely to find them buried in archives than they would on the real help pages, so if an answer is nothing new, I think it would best be deleted. If it is something new, it should be added to a help page. Is there any objection to not archiving this page at all? User:Angelauser talk:Angela 21:54, Apr 14, 2004 (UTC) :Hmm. Still, it might be a good idea to keep them as records. It also would be easier for a person to go find a question they asked here (even in an archive) rather than buried in some help resource that they mightn't know about. At least if we keep them they will know it's here and where to find it. User:Ludraman | User talk:Ludraman 03:53, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::It seems to me that if we kept an archive, it'd be for our own purposes. Might be useful to look over questions and answers any time we're revising a help page or a tutorial, first because it's a quick way of seeing what questions are asked often, and second because some of the responses might be worded better than what we have in the actual policy or help page. ::All that said, I'm still not sure I think it's necessary. User:Isomorphic 15:46, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC) :::An archive for frequently asked questions might be good idea, though there is already the Wikipedia:FAQ. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 17:24, Apr 15, 2004 (UTC) Just a quick thought, but given the way that this is currently linked from WP:VP, how about removing the word "newcomer" from the title altogether, and just having it as a general "help desk"? (The only disadvantage of this name is that it sounds a bit like "reference desk", which could be confusing). This could take an extra bit of load from the village pump without losing functionality - just a place to ask those "how do I" questions that we all have from time to time, but don't really need extended discussion or the attention of every user, like the pump provides. What think you all? - User:IMSoP 19:25, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC) :I like the idea of just calling it the help desk. Sounds nicer. Helps reserve the Village pump for actual discussion. User:Isomorphic 19:52, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::If noone objects to the title change, I'm going to move in a day or two (assuming I remember.) User:Isomorphic 03:12, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC) :::This sounds good to me. :) User:Fabiform | User talk:Fabiform 04:13, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::::Ditto. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 10:44, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC) :I'm a little worried that the new name would cause people to believe that it serves the function actually served by Wikipedia:Reference desk. Don't change your plans just cuz of me, but we should think about it. User:Moink 20:00, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::Well, certainly we'll have to make sure that the text at the top of the page is clear. Should have links to the Village Pump and the Reference Desk, with clear explanations of what should go where. But really, if we have a few misplaced questions it's no big deal. User:Isomorphic 20:23, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC) :::No, you're right, it's not a big deal. User:Moink 23:05, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC) I'm just curious. What happened to this page? Was it moved recently, say in the last 24 hours? The page history seems incomplete. --User:Voodoo 07:52, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC) :The history looks ok to me. Are you confusing this page with the Wikipedia:village pump or wikipedia:reference desk maybe? User:Angelauser talk:Angela 03:58, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC) == "''This is an experiment page''" == I think the link to experiment when one clicks on experiment in the first sentence on this page is misleading. One would expect to be led to a Wikipedia page explaining what an experimental page is, but instead, one is led to the page that defines and describes a scientific experiment. :Thanks for pointing that out. As the page has been around for a while now anyway, I've removed the ''experimental'' note. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 01:47, May 3, 2004 (UTC) ::Yeah. It's not really an experiment anymore. It's more like a "success." ;-) Thanks to everyone who've been maintaining it. User:Isomorphic 02:17, 3 May 2004 (UTC) ---- ==Archives and summaries== I'm going to be bold and archive this--there's no reason not to, really, and it needs to be cleared out (for this week only I'm on a dial-up). User:Meelar 03:16, 15 May 2004 (UTC) :Is there any point have both the archive and the summarised questions section? Perhaps the summarised ones should have been archived instead? It might confuse people to have both. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 03:22, May 15, 2004 (UTC) ::How about a rename to "General tips"? User:Meelar 03:27, 15 May 2004 (UTC) :::I think that would be best in the tutorial or FAQ. I'm not sure it's beneficial to repeat it here. People won't want to feel they are expected to read too much of an intro before posting a question. It might be best to just remove the summarised section, though some links to things like the Wikipedia:Tutorial would still be useful. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 03:33, May 15, 2004 (UTC) ::Perhaps just a few links at the top--to Wikipedia:FAQ and Wikipedia:Tutorial. User:Meelar 03:39, 15 May 2004 (UTC) :::I like this page very much. I agree that the summarized section isn't necessary on this page, but it ''might'' be useful to keep it at the top of the archive page -- make it easier for people browsing to see if a question has been asked before to find quick answers. Then again, I don't know whether we need to go out of our way to construct summaries for future archives -- might be enough to make sure the TOC headings are clear and useful when archiving. :::I ''do'' think we should continue make an effort to make sure that useful or well-written tips generated here are integrated into the FAQ or tutorial -- it would be a shame to have all this good advice languish in archives. Just dumping the summary section into one or the other is a bit disorganized.... User:CatherineMunro - User_talk:CatherineMunro 04:54, 15 May 2004 (UTC) Did some archiving today; my first WkikiMaintenance attempt. Wheeeee!! hope I did it right. . . . . User:Soundguy99 17:05, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Well done == I've just been looking over this talk page and it really strikes me as a big success and an example of Wikipedia editing at it's best. Starting off as someone (I ''think'' it was User:MyRedDice) having an idea to take traffic off the Village Pump, it developed through co-operative editing to a highly successful page which gives everyone, not just newcomers, a place to have their queries about editing or anything else answered quickly, and takes these queries off the Village Pump, leaving it free for discussion. Well done, everyone who helped make this page what it is. User:Ludraman | User talk:Ludraman 16:20, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) == Frames, Firefox and Outofsync editing == I like the new (is it new? I don't remember its being there before a week or so past) left frame/right frame in - at least - Cologne Blue. Unfortunately in Firefox, when I'm editing a section of a page and especially if I'm previewing, if I pull the right sidebar of a page down, the editing text does not move in sync with the page as a whole, producing worrisome (what if the browser crashes?..) effects that are also difficult to read. Any ideas? Ways I can clarify? Thanks! User:Schissel - User_talk:Schissel 05:25, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC) (who sees he has just posted this is the wrong spot, was wondering why that took such a brief time to load after pressing submit, washes the egg off his face, and looks for the other page. Yep. Whoops.) == Songs and singles == There is different categories for songs and singles. Can you place the same song in both songs and singles? I'll Be Missing You is placed in both Category:1997 singles and Category:1997 songs. Is this allowed? User:Thorpe 16:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC) :Yes, this is allowed--a Single (music) is not the same thing as a song. Hope that helps and happy editing. User:Meelar User talk:Meelar 16:34, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

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