
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 align=right cellpadding=2 |- align=center bgcolor=pink !German Shepherd Dog |- align=center |dog_agility_run_">Image:GermanShep1_wb.jpg|thumb|none|250px|German Shepherd happy and panting after an dog agility run |- align=center bgcolor=pink !Alternative names |- | {| align=center |- |Alsatian |- |Deutscher Schäferhund |} |- align=center bgcolor=pink !Country of origin |- align=center |Germany |- align=center bgcolor=pink !Classification and breed standards |- | {| align=center |Fédération Cynologique Internationale: || Group 1 Section 1 #166 |[http://www.vomhausgochi.com/Website/standard.htm Stds] |- |American Kennel Club: || Herding |[http://www.akc.org/breeds/german_shepherd_dog/index.cfm Stds] |- |Australian National Kennel Council: || Group 5 (Working Dogs) |[http://www.ankc.aust.com/gsd.html Stds] |- |Canadian Kennel Club: || Group 7 - Herding Dogs |[http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/germanshepherd/germansheparticle1.htm Stds] |- |Kennel Club (UK): || Pastoral |[http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/discoverdogs/pastoral/p851.htm Stds] |- |New Zealand Kennel Club: || Working |[http://www.nzkc.org.nz/br528.html Stds] |- |United Kennel Club: || Herding Dog Breeds |[http://www.ukcdogs.com/breeds/herdingdogs/germanshepherddog.std.shtml Stds] |- |} |} The German Shepherd Dog (known also as the Alsatian or Schäfer(hund)) is an intelligent dog breed of dog. Because they are eager to please, they are easily trained in obedience training and protection. German Shepherd Dogs are often used as working dogs in many capacities, including search and rescue (SAR), military, police or guard dogs. They are also used as assistance dogs / service dogs (such as guide dogs), though not as much as labrador retriever and Golden Retrievers. __NOTOC__ == Appearance == The German Shepherd is a large, strong, substantial-looking dog. It varies in colour, coming in many different shades, mostly cream (tan) and brown. ===White coat=== A white (or very light), but not albino, version of the the German Shepherd has also always occurred, but was designated a disqualifying fault in the AKC in the late 1960s. This fault, however, does not prevent the white coated German Shepherd Dog from being registered in the AKC as a German Shepherd Dog. There are still fanciers of the German Shepherd breed who work to preserve the white coated German Shepherd Dog. See [http://www.wgsdca.org WGSDCA] for more detail. However, the white German Shepherd has been recognised by some organisations under the name Berger Blanc Suisse (or White Shepherd Dog). ===Long-haired coat=== The so-called "long-haired German Shepherd" is considered a "fault" in the German Shepherd Dog standard, according to the AKC. The long hair gene is recessive. Dogs with this coat look somewhat like the Belgian Shepherd Dog (Tervueren) type of Belgian Shepherd Dog. An example with pictures can be found [http://www.leerburg.com/longhair.htm here]. ===Giant shepherd=== Some organizations recognize a deliberately bred, larger variation of the breed as the Shiloh Shepherd Dog or other names. ==Breed Lines== There are several types or ''lines'' of GSD and the behavior, abilities, and appearance of each is quite different. The major lines are the international working line, the international show line, and the North American show line. Dogs from working lines are bred primarily for traits involving their working ability rather than appearance, so their appearance can be somewhat varied. The international show lines differ in that emphasis is given more to the appearance of the dog when breeding, so they are very consistent in type or appearance. The North American show lines have also been bred primarily for their looks, but have a markedly different appearance from the international dogs, featuring a noticably sloped back and sharp angulation of the hock joint. There is a current debate over whether the American show lines still represent the original German Shepherd Dog, or whether the line has become distinct enough that it should be considered a separate breed. Critics of the American line argue that the working ability of these dogs has been lost, and that the angled back is detrimental to the health of the animal. Proponents of the line believe that the altered bone structure of their dogs represents an improvement to the herding ability of the animals. ==Temperament== Well-bred GSDs have powerful jaws and strong teeth, can develop a strong sense of loyalty and obedience, and can be trained to attack and release on command. Poorly bred GSDs such as those from puppy mills can be fearful, overly aggressive, or both. The common misconception that GSDs are inherently violent is due most often to poor training. Temperament Differences Among Lines The different types or ''lines'' of GSD display differences not only in appearance but also in ability and temperament. Dogs from working lines have very high energy, and have been bred to have a natural drive for protection, tracking, and obedience. They are bred primarily for consistent temperament, working drive, and intelligence. These dogs can be used as pets, but will be unhappy if not exercised daily or trained to do a job of some sort. The international and North American show lines tend to have less energy and less working ability. These dogs can make excellent pets, provided that a poor breeder has not sacrificed consistent temperament or health in the quest for good looks. ==Health== As is common in many large breeds, German Shepherds are prone to elbow and hip dysplasia. Other health problems sometimes occurring in the breed are von Willebrand's disease and skin allergy. German Shepherds are also prone to bloat. They have an average lifespan of twelve years. ==History== The breed was originated by Captain Max von Stephanitz in the late 1800s and early 1900s. His goal was to breed an all-purpose working dog. Von Stephanitz admired the landrace herding dogs of his native Germany, and believed they had the potential to be all-purpose working dogs. Additionally, he was aware of the declining need for herding dogs and believed that the working abilities of the breed would decline unless it was put to other uses. Von Stephanitz created the Verein für Deutsche Schäferhunde, or SV as the official governing body for the breed. The SV then created the schutzhund trial as a breed test for the German Shepherd Dog, and prohibited the breeding of any dog which could not pass the trial. The schutzhund trial, along with the SV's conviction that "German Shepherd breeding is working dog breeding, or it is not German Shepherd breeding" led to a rapid development of the breed's abilities. After WWI, British and American soldiers, impressed by the abilities of the dog, brought home examples to breed. The breed instantly become popular, both as a family pet and as a working dog. To this day, the German Shepherd Dog is considered one of, if not the most intelligent and versatile breeds in existence. ==Breed names== The proper English name for the breed is ''German Shepherd Dog'' (a literal translation from the German "Deutscher Schäferhund") but they are usually informally referred to as ''GSD's'' or simply ''German Shepherds''. ''Alsatian'' is also commonly used in the UK (the reason for the alternative name is historical: during World Wars I and II, Germany was out of favour in the UK and many German names were translated or anglicised). == Miscellaneous == German Shepherds often compete and excel in obedience trials and Schutzhund competitions. German Shepherds are also often trained as police dogs, due to their trainability, size and work drive. ==Famous Shepherds== *Blondie (dog), pet of Adolf Hitler *Charlie, from All Dogs Go to Heaven *Rin Tin Tin *Strongheart ==See also== *List of historical dogs *List of fictional dogs Dog breeds
==My shutzhund== We were the proud owners of Shandlebourg Harko (KIM)to us, the British N.E Schutzhund club's very 1st Schutzhund 111 dog. We went into this sport completely green, Kim was bought as a pet and all his life gave us a lot of love, he loved a cuddle and gave us his all, with the expertise help and hard work of helper Ian Lynch and advice from Michael Naisbit,( neither had Qualified a schutzhund 111 dog theirselves ) who had watched Schutzhund and helped bring it over to Britain we qualified Kim Schutzhund 111 at the very early age of 2 years old. We entered Kim in trials all over the country and had a great time, he gave us a lot of pleasure all his life. H e Qualified to compete in the National Championships 3 times and tried very hard but alas we noticed something not right, it took a while but found he had a slipped disc, he was only seven years old yet he had still competed, he was so brave. We took him to the best we knew, Mr Ness at Blyth who operated on him, the operation went well and all seemed ok but, not wanting to take chances decided to retire him from trials, later we were glad we did as another disc went 18 month later at the age of 8yrs, this time the news was bad, Mr Ness couldnt operate, it would have needed two plates and would have greatly weakened his spine which would probably have snapped so we took him home, gave him all the medication available to make sure he was not in any pain and keep his muscles supple loved and spoiled him for a few more precious months but the time came in October 2002 when the paralasys got to a point when Kim needed help so we very sadly had him put to sleep. We will always love him and we miss him so much, always his man and dad, Sandra and Brian. : Strangely, Malcolm Ness was the consultant on my Labrador retriever, when he was suspected of having hip dysplasia. But he didn't, at least, not major enough to worry over. He's indeed very good at what he does. Sorry to hear the sad story. User:FT2 12:28, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC) ==American vs. other lines== If the American and international breeds differ, can we have a picture of both and the key differences? User:FT2 12:28, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC) : This is a very controversial topic. I tried to write a neutral description, but never succeeded. Here is my admittedly biased description. If someone wants to try to turn it into a more balanced description, have at it. I don't have any copyright free pictures, but I can give some links. :The internation working lines have been bred more for performance at Schutzhund and tending style herding than for looks. Since the founding stock was herding dogs, it is not surprising that the working lines more closely resemble the original founding stock. Working dogs have a wider range of coat colors (sable, black and tan, bi-color, black), a more level back, a steeper croup and upper arm, among other differences. :The international show lines were basically indentical to the working lines up to around 1970. Perhaps the last great show/working dogs were Bodo and Bernd vom Lierberg (1967). It is not clear to me why the split occured, but it is easy to see from looking at the pictures from the time. The split accelerated rapidly in the early 1990's when the Martin brothers gained control of the SV. They pushed a "banana backed" carrot colored dog that is still prevalent in the international show ring. The working lines tried to resist the trend, but since they share the same gene pool, you can see some show characteristics in the modern working lines. There has been a slight retreat from the extremes advocated by the Martin brothers, but it is still easy to recognize an international show lines dog by the color and arched back. [http://www.schaeferhunde.de/International/06_veranstaltungen/veran_01.htm SV Champions] The left most column of pictures is show males, the middle column show females, and the right column working dogs (probably all males). :The American/Canadian show dog was largely identical to the international dogs up until the mid 1960's. Although the American breeders did not emphasize Schutzhund, there was a lot of traffic between Germany and North American that maintained the working characteristics of the American show dog. Lance of Fran Jo (1969) was possibly the start of the split between America and the rest of the world. Compared to other dogs of the time he had extreme angulation of the hock (rear ankle joint) and supposedly a beautiful flying trot. Well, if a little is good, a whole lot more must be better. American breeders began to push for more and more extreme angulation, almost to the exclusion of all other traits. American show lines are easily recognized by their extremely angulated, almost collapsed rear end and swan neck. Seen head on they appear very narrow compared to the broader international dogs. [http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/nationals5_2003_saturday.html 2003 GSDCA Nationals] Scroll down to the Grand Victor and Grand Victorix. These are the ideal GSD acording to the US show establishment. :I haven't touched on the temperament and health. American show lines have been a victim of puppy mills and can be spooky and fear aggressive. International show lines probably make the best pets temperament wise although occasionally you will come across a fearful one. They are less active than working lines. Working lines are not good pets for most people. They must be trained to do a job or they will invent one of their own. A bored German Shepherd is a destructive German Shepherd. Some working lines dogs can be very hard (resistent to corrections), independent, and agressive, but most are very even tempered. Unfortunately the health of all lines is suspect. :There are other lines as well. Due to the isolation brought about by the rabies quarantine, the UK developed a very deep chested show dog that is still referred to as an "Alsatian" by some to distinguish it from the international lines. America has developed some oversized lines, the Shilo and King shepherds, and some breeders are breeding all white dogs. :See [http://www.realgsd.info] for more pictures and information. This site is an advocate for the working lines. User:Dsurber 04:28, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC) ::I think it could be interesting to mention the different international lines. Here in northern Europe the American line (with collapsed hindlegs) is considered an animal welfare issue and is very very unusual. I have heard some vetrinarians don't even treat these dogs, partly not to support the ownership, partly to avoid the dangers of unpredictable behaviour. User:Pehrs 05:48, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC) :::If by this you mean things like the differences between German (international) lines and DDR or Chech or French lines, then we are getting very specialized. Due to the Iron Curtain, the Eastern block dogs were isolated for forty years and there are some differences. Eastern block show dogs remained much closer to their working cousins. Eastern block working dogs were not much influenced by the Western (international) show lines. Eastern dogs, working and show, tend to be blockier, smaller and perhaps more hard and aggressive than their Western counterparts. French dogs were largely bred for Ring Sport more than Schutzhund and tend to be lighter and more athletic. Herding lines dogs (HGH) have also changed over the years. It used to be they were strongly attracted to sheep and were strong independent workers. Because there is much less need for actual herding dogs and because of the way HGH trails are judged, the dogs have lost some of their independend working ability. This is all broad generalization and individuals in each line vary considerably. As you divide the breed into smaller groups it becomes harder to distinguish them. They are all still German Shepherd Dogs, well except for American show lines which really should be considered as separate breed IMHO. User:Dsurber 00:23, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) ==Ace the bat hound and bizhat== I have reverted the addition of a link to http://germanshepherd.bizhat.com . The link doesn't add much information about the dog and some of the information on that page might be copyrighted. It's far better to link to more official resources when it comes to breed standards and such. User:Pehrs 18:07, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) I removed Ace the Bathound and the link to http://germanshepherd.bizhat.com again. Ace the Bathound is linked in the list of fictional dogs. As noted below http://germanshepherd.bizhat.com doesn't add much. This is the second time each of these links has been added and removed. I'm not an experienced Wikipedian so I don't know how do deal with such revision wars, but if these edits reappear, we probably should do something. User:Dsurber 19:46, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC) ==Re: Ace, The Bat-Hound;== Ace, the Bat-Hound is an important Chapter of GSD lore. If he doesn't get a seperate link on the GSD page, Ace's page probably should have one. Michael Reiter. :I doubt that most people except fans of older Batman comics (and I'm one) would even recognize the reference. I'd say that Ace is far less important than, say, Rin Tin Tin, and at the moment even RTT doesn't have a link here. So we should either go ahead & duplicate all fictional & famous GSDs here with appropriate headings (meaning we'll have to maintain the lists here & on the main list pages) or we shdn't be listing just one. User:Elf | User talk:Elf 19:56, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC) ==Re: Re: Ace, The Bat-Hound-"I'd say that Ace is far less important than, say, Rin Tin Tin-"== I have to disagree. Ace is a treasured part of the silver age Batman mythos, and a treasured part of the vast, rich legacy of the GSD. He deserves his own link because he has his own page. I didn't write it, and I don't know who did. Incidentally, all GSDs are heirs apparents to a vast, rich legacy of loyalty and bravery that they and their fictional counterparts are heir to. I hope to see a page or pages on Both Littlest Hoboes, and Rex the Wonder Dog, if there aren't any already... Michael Reiter *No, I don't consider it important information about the breed. List of fictional dogs is just for that, and link to the list as well as perhaps a comment that GSD are often found in fiction is more than enough. Ace is not very well known outside a small group of fans. No need to weight down the article with pointless links. User:Pehrs 13:47, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC) == White GSDs == ''Moved section from article to Berger Blanc Suisse; moved this Talk section to Talk:Berger Blanc Suisse; haven't done any merging or editing, though. User:Elf | User talk:Elf 21:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)''
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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 align=right cellpadding=2 |- align=center bgcolor=pink !German Shepherd Dog |- align=center |dog_agility_run_">Image:GermanShep1_wb.jpg|thumb|none|250px|German Shepherd happy and panting after an dog agility run |- align=center bgcolor=pink !Alternative names |- | {| align=center |- |Alsatian |- |Deutscher Schäferhund |} |- align=center bgcolor=pink !Country of origin |- align=center |Germany |- align=center bgcolor=pink !Classification and breed standards |- | {| align=center |Fédération Cynologique Internationale: || Group 1 Section 1 #166 |[http://www.vomhausgochi.com/Website/standard.htm Stds] |- |American Kennel Club: || Herding |[http://www.akc.org/breeds/german_shepherd_dog/index.cfm Stds] |- |Australian National Kennel Council: || Group 5 (Working Dogs) |[http://www.ankc.aust.com/gsd.html Stds] |- |Canadian Kennel Club: || Group 7 - Herding Dogs |[http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/germanshepherd/germansheparticle1.htm Stds] |- |Kennel Club (UK): || Pastoral |[http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/discoverdogs/pastoral/p851.htm Stds] |- |New Zealand Kennel Club: || Working |[http://www.nzkc.org.nz/br528.html Stds] |- |United Kennel Club: || Herding Dog Breeds |[http://www.ukcdogs.com/breeds/herdingdogs/germanshepherddog.std.shtml Stds] |- |} |} The German Shepherd Dog (known also as the Alsatian or Schäfer(hund)) is an intelligent dog breed of dog. Because they are eager to please, they are easily trained in obedience training and protection. German Shepherd Dogs are often used as working dogs in many capacities, including search and rescue (SAR), military, police or guard dogs. They are also used as assistance dogs / service dogs (such as guide dogs), though not as much as labrador retriever and Golden Retrievers. __NOTOC__ == Appearance == The German Shepherd is a large, strong, substantial-looking dog. It varies in colour, coming in many different shades, mostly cream (tan) and brown. ===White coat=== A white (or very light), but not albino, version of the the German Shepherd has also always occurred, but was designated a disqualifying fault in the AKC in the late 1960s. This fault, however, does not prevent the white coated German Shepherd Dog from being registered in the AKC as a German Shepherd Dog. There are still fanciers of the German Shepherd breed who work to preserve the white coated German Shepherd Dog. See [http://www.wgsdca.org WGSDCA] for more detail. However, the white German Shepherd has been recognised by some organisations under the name Berger Blanc Suisse (or White Shepherd Dog). ===Long-haired coat=== The so-called "long-haired German Shepherd" is considered a "fault" in the German Shepherd Dog standard, according to the AKC. The long hair gene is recessive. Dogs with this coat look somewhat like the Belgian Shepherd Dog (Tervueren) type of Belgian Shepherd Dog. An example with pictures can be found [http://www.leerburg.com/longhair.htm here]. ===Giant shepherd=== Some organizations recognize a deliberately bred, larger variation of the breed as the Shiloh Shepherd Dog or other names. ==Breed Lines== There are several types or ''lines'' of GSD and the behavior, abilities, and appearance of each is quite different. The major lines are the international working line, the international show line, and the North American show line. Dogs from working lines are bred primarily for traits involving their working ability rather than appearance, so their appearance can be somewhat varied. The international show lines differ in that emphasis is given more to the appearance of the dog when breeding, so they are very consistent in type or appearance. The North American show lines have also been bred primarily for their looks, but have a markedly different appearance from the international dogs, featuring a noticably sloped back and sharp angulation of the hock joint. There is a current debate over whether the American show lines still represent the original German Shepherd Dog, or whether the line has become distinct enough that it should be considered a separate breed. Critics of the American line argue that the working ability of these dogs has been lost, and that the angled back is detrimental to the health of the animal. Proponents of the line believe that the altered bone structure of their dogs represents an improvement to the herding ability of the animals. ==Temperament== Well-bred GSDs have powerful jaws and strong teeth, can develop a strong sense of loyalty and obedience, and can be trained to attack and release on command. Poorly bred GSDs such as those from puppy mills can be fearful, overly aggressive, or both. The common misconception that GSDs are inherently violent is due most often to poor training. Temperament Differences Among Lines The different types or ''lines'' of GSD display differences not only in appearance but also in ability and temperament. Dogs from working lines have very high energy, and have been bred to have a natural drive for protection, tracking, and obedience. They are bred primarily for consistent temperament, working drive, and intelligence. These dogs can be used as pets, but will be unhappy if not exercised daily or trained to do a job of some sort. The international and North American show lines tend to have less energy and less working ability. These dogs can make excellent pets, provided that a poor breeder has not sacrificed consistent temperament or health in the quest for good looks. ==Health== As is common in many large breeds, German Shepherds are prone to elbow and hip dysplasia. Other health problems sometimes occurring in the breed are von Willebrand's disease and skin allergy. German Shepherds are also prone to bloat. They have an average lifespan of twelve years. ==History== The breed was originated by Captain Max von Stephanitz in the late 1800s and early 1900s. His goal was to breed an all-purpose working dog. Von Stephanitz admired the landrace herding dogs of his native Germany, and believed they had the potential to be all-purpose working dogs. Additionally, he was aware of the declining need for herding dogs and believed that the working abilities of the breed would decline unless it was put to other uses. Von Stephanitz created the Verein für Deutsche Schäferhunde, or SV as the official governing body for the breed. The SV then created the schutzhund trial as a breed test for the German Shepherd Dog, and prohibited the breeding of any dog which could not pass the trial. The schutzhund trial, along with the SV's conviction that "German Shepherd breeding is working dog breeding, or it is not German Shepherd breeding" led to a rapid development of the breed's abilities. After WWI, British and American soldiers, impressed by the abilities of the dog, brought home examples to breed. The breed instantly become popular, both as a family pet and as a working dog. To this day, the German Shepherd Dog is considered one of, if not the most intelligent and versatile breeds in existence. ==Breed names== The proper English name for the breed is ''German Shepherd Dog'' (a literal translation from the German "Deutscher Schäferhund") but they are usually informally referred to as ''GSD's'' or simply ''German Shepherds''. ''Alsatian'' is also commonly used in the UK (the reason for the alternative name is historical: during World Wars I and II, Germany was out of favour in the UK and many German names were translated or anglicised). == Miscellaneous == German Shepherds often compete and excel in obedience trials and Schutzhund competitions. German Shepherds are also often trained as police dogs, due to their trainability, size and work drive. ==Famous Shepherds== *Blondie (dog), pet of Adolf Hitler *Charlie, from All Dogs Go to Heaven *Rin Tin Tin *Strongheart ==See also== *List of historical dogs *List of fictional dogs Dog breeds
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==My shutzhund== We were the proud owners of Shandlebourg Harko (KIM)to us, the British N.E Schutzhund club's very 1st Schutzhund 111 dog. We went into this sport completely green, Kim was bought as a pet and all his life gave us a lot of love, he loved a cuddle and gave us his all, with the expertise help and hard work of helper Ian Lynch and advice from Michael Naisbit,( neither had Qualified a schutzhund 111 dog theirselves ) who had watched Schutzhund and helped bring it over to Britain we qualified Kim Schutzhund 111 at the very early age of 2 years old. We entered Kim in trials all over the country and had a great time, he gave us a lot of pleasure all his life. H e Qualified to compete in the National Championships 3 times and tried very hard but alas we noticed something not right, it took a while but found he had a slipped disc, he was only seven years old yet he had still competed, he was so brave. We took him to the best we knew, Mr Ness at Blyth who operated on him, the operation went well and all seemed ok but, not wanting to take chances decided to retire him from trials, later we were glad we did as another disc went 18 month later at the age of 8yrs, this time the news was bad, Mr Ness couldnt operate, it would have needed two plates and would have greatly weakened his spine which would probably have snapped so we took him home, gave him all the medication available to make sure he was not in any pain and keep his muscles supple loved and spoiled him for a few more precious months but the time came in October 2002 when the paralasys got to a point when Kim needed help so we very sadly had him put to sleep. We will always love him and we miss him so much, always his man and dad, Sandra and Brian. : Strangely, Malcolm Ness was the consultant on my Labrador retriever, when he was suspected of having hip dysplasia. But he didn't, at least, not major enough to worry over. He's indeed very good at what he does. Sorry to hear the sad story. User:FT2 12:28, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC) ==American vs. other lines== If the American and international breeds differ, can we have a picture of both and the key differences? User:FT2 12:28, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC) : This is a very controversial topic. I tried to write a neutral description, but never succeeded. Here is my admittedly biased description. If someone wants to try to turn it into a more balanced description, have at it. I don't have any copyright free pictures, but I can give some links. :The internation working lines have been bred more for performance at Schutzhund and tending style herding than for looks. Since the founding stock was herding dogs, it is not surprising that the working lines more closely resemble the original founding stock. Working dogs have a wider range of coat colors (sable, black and tan, bi-color, black), a more level back, a steeper croup and upper arm, among other differences. :The international show lines were basically indentical to the working lines up to around 1970. Perhaps the last great show/working dogs were Bodo and Bernd vom Lierberg (1967). It is not clear to me why the split occured, but it is easy to see from looking at the pictures from the time. The split accelerated rapidly in the early 1990's when the Martin brothers gained control of the SV. They pushed a "banana backed" carrot colored dog that is still prevalent in the international show ring. The working lines tried to resist the trend, but since they share the same gene pool, you can see some show characteristics in the modern working lines. There has been a slight retreat from the extremes advocated by the Martin brothers, but it is still easy to recognize an international show lines dog by the color and arched back. [http://www.schaeferhunde.de/International/06_veranstaltungen/veran_01.htm SV Champions] The left most column of pictures is show males, the middle column show females, and the right column working dogs (probably all males). :The American/Canadian show dog was largely identical to the international dogs up until the mid 1960's. Although the American breeders did not emphasize Schutzhund, there was a lot of traffic between Germany and North American that maintained the working characteristics of the American show dog. Lance of Fran Jo (1969) was possibly the start of the split between America and the rest of the world. Compared to other dogs of the time he had extreme angulation of the hock (rear ankle joint) and supposedly a beautiful flying trot. Well, if a little is good, a whole lot more must be better. American breeders began to push for more and more extreme angulation, almost to the exclusion of all other traits. American show lines are easily recognized by their extremely angulated, almost collapsed rear end and swan neck. Seen head on they appear very narrow compared to the broader international dogs. [http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/nationals5_2003_saturday.html 2003 GSDCA Nationals] Scroll down to the Grand Victor and Grand Victorix. These are the ideal GSD acording to the US show establishment. :I haven't touched on the temperament and health. American show lines have been a victim of puppy mills and can be spooky and fear aggressive. International show lines probably make the best pets temperament wise although occasionally you will come across a fearful one. They are less active than working lines. Working lines are not good pets for most people. They must be trained to do a job or they will invent one of their own. A bored German Shepherd is a destructive German Shepherd. Some working lines dogs can be very hard (resistent to corrections), independent, and agressive, but most are very even tempered. Unfortunately the health of all lines is suspect. :There are other lines as well. Due to the isolation brought about by the rabies quarantine, the UK developed a very deep chested show dog that is still referred to as an "Alsatian" by some to distinguish it from the international lines. America has developed some oversized lines, the Shilo and King shepherds, and some breeders are breeding all white dogs. :See [http://www.realgsd.info] for more pictures and information. This site is an advocate for the working lines. User:Dsurber 04:28, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC) ::I think it could be interesting to mention the different international lines. Here in northern Europe the American line (with collapsed hindlegs) is considered an animal welfare issue and is very very unusual. I have heard some vetrinarians don't even treat these dogs, partly not to support the ownership, partly to avoid the dangers of unpredictable behaviour. User:Pehrs 05:48, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC) :::If by this you mean things like the differences between German (international) lines and DDR or Chech or French lines, then we are getting very specialized. Due to the Iron Curtain, the Eastern block dogs were isolated for forty years and there are some differences. Eastern block show dogs remained much closer to their working cousins. Eastern block working dogs were not much influenced by the Western (international) show lines. Eastern dogs, working and show, tend to be blockier, smaller and perhaps more hard and aggressive than their Western counterparts. French dogs were largely bred for Ring Sport more than Schutzhund and tend to be lighter and more athletic. Herding lines dogs (HGH) have also changed over the years. It used to be they were strongly attracted to sheep and were strong independent workers. Because there is much less need for actual herding dogs and because of the way HGH trails are judged, the dogs have lost some of their independend working ability. This is all broad generalization and individuals in each line vary considerably. As you divide the breed into smaller groups it becomes harder to distinguish them. They are all still German Shepherd Dogs, well except for American show lines which really should be considered as separate breed IMHO. User:Dsurber 00:23, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) ==Ace the bat hound and bizhat== I have reverted the addition of a link to http://germanshepherd.bizhat.com . The link doesn't add much information about the dog and some of the information on that page might be copyrighted. It's far better to link to more official resources when it comes to breed standards and such. User:Pehrs 18:07, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) I removed Ace the Bathound and the link to http://germanshepherd.bizhat.com again. Ace the Bathound is linked in the list of fictional dogs. As noted below http://germanshepherd.bizhat.com doesn't add much. This is the second time each of these links has been added and removed. I'm not an experienced Wikipedian so I don't know how do deal with such revision wars, but if these edits reappear, we probably should do something. User:Dsurber 19:46, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC) ==Re: Ace, The Bat-Hound;== Ace, the Bat-Hound is an important Chapter of GSD lore. If he doesn't get a seperate link on the GSD page, Ace's page probably should have one. Michael Reiter. :I doubt that most people except fans of older Batman comics (and I'm one) would even recognize the reference. I'd say that Ace is far less important than, say, Rin Tin Tin, and at the moment even RTT doesn't have a link here. So we should either go ahead & duplicate all fictional & famous GSDs here with appropriate headings (meaning we'll have to maintain the lists here & on the main list pages) or we shdn't be listing just one. User:Elf | User talk:Elf 19:56, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC) ==Re: Re: Ace, The Bat-Hound-"I'd say that Ace is far less important than, say, Rin Tin Tin-"== I have to disagree. Ace is a treasured part of the silver age Batman mythos, and a treasured part of the vast, rich legacy of the GSD. He deserves his own link because he has his own page. I didn't write it, and I don't know who did. Incidentally, all GSDs are heirs apparents to a vast, rich legacy of loyalty and bravery that they and their fictional counterparts are heir to. I hope to see a page or pages on Both Littlest Hoboes, and Rex the Wonder Dog, if there aren't any already... Michael Reiter *No, I don't consider it important information about the breed. List of fictional dogs is just for that, and link to the list as well as perhaps a comment that GSD are often found in fiction is more than enough. Ace is not very well known outside a small group of fans. No need to weight down the article with pointless links. User:Pehrs 13:47, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC) == White GSDs == ''Moved section from article to Berger Blanc Suisse; moved this Talk section to Talk:Berger Blanc Suisse; haven't done any merging or editing, though. User:Elf | User talk:Elf 21:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)''
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