
I'm a 30-something male resident of Sydney who discovered Wikipedia late in 2002. I happily admit to being an eccentric and a polymath; I hold a design degree, work in the telecommunications industry, and spend a lot of my time pursuing professional interests in alternative politics, radio broadcasting, music production, calendar reform, architectural photography, business management, philately, numismatics, vexillology and 20th century heritage conservation. And occasionally, Wikipedia. All of this means that I have a need to be efficient with my time, and as a result I have a very low tolerance for fools, the wilfully stupid, pedants, dogmatists, sophists and career deletionists. When it comes to Wikipedia I am an unashamed egalitarian inclusionist, and support the creation and retention of articles on any subject that can be verified by two or more documentary third-party ''offline'' sources ''and which is also'' unique and/or interesting enough to be a subject that someone, somewhere, sometime is likely to research on Wikipedia. Articles that I have created: *2MBS - Australia's oldest and largest public radio FM station. *4 o'clock wave - An interesting piece of local Australian lore. *ANZAC War Memorial - Australia's finest Art Deco public building. *Araucania and Patagonia - A doomed 19th Century South American kingdom. *Aurora Islands - Mysterious phantom islands in the south Atlantic. *Avram - A full-blown Tasmanian eccentric. *Bent Pyramid - The most unusual pyramid in Egypt. *Dashur - An important pyramid site near Cairo. *Egyptian pyramids - An overview of the pyramid-building phenomenon. *Empire of Atlantium - The political lobby group I co-founded. *Floating islands - An unusual but common phenomenon. *Fort Dennison - The last martello tower ever built. *Freak wave - A fascinating, terrifying natural phenomenon. *Garden Palace - Site of the Sydney International Exhibition of 1879. *Independent State of Aramoana - New Zealand environmental secessionist state. *Independent State of Rainbow Creek - Another rural Australian secessionist state. *List of largest gatherings in history - Mine is bigger than yours! *List of Art Deco buildings in Melbourne - see below. *List of Art Deco buildings in Sydney - the start of an intended project. *List of Art Deco buildings in Tasmania - see above. *Nan Tien temple - The largest Buddhist temple in the southern hemisphere. *Nation of Celestial Space - The biggest micronation ever! *Nubian pyramids - The little-known pyramids of Sudan. *Padstow, New South Wales - *Panania, New South Wales - Where I lived as a child. *Panania railway station, Sydney - Where I caught trains as a child. *Province of Bumbunga - Outback Australian eccentric British monarchist. *Potts Point, New South Wales - The suburb of inner-Sydney in which I live. *Red Pyramid - The world's first true pyramid. *Riverwood, New South Wales *Sovereign State of Aeterna Lucina - The country that banned blue icecream. *Trim (cat) - The first feline to circumnavigate Australia. Articles that I have substantially re-written: *Artistamp - Unique and interesting artform. *Australian legislative election, 2007 - Vote early and vote often! *Beverly Hills, New South Wales - Where I spent much of my adolescence. *Bludger - Common Australian colloquialism. *Caduceus - Not to be confused with Rod of Asclepius. *Coin collecting - Very expensive obsession. *Darling Harbour - Sydney harbourside precinct. *Drop bear - Imaginary Australian fauna. *Exploding toad - Things that go bang in the night. *Great Sphinx of Giza - Famous big Egyptian statue. *King street wharf - Another Sydney harbourside precinct. *Kings Cross, New South Wales - Sydney's red light district *Krakatoa - Famous Indonesian volcano. *Micronation - Countries that are not quite countries. *Powerhouse Museum - Sydney's museum of Science and Technology. *Rod of Asclepius - Not to be confused with Caduceus. *Rose Island - 1960s artificial island country. *Sealand - Artificial island principality in the English Channel. *Sedang - Ephemeral 19th Century southeast Asian kingdom. *Taufa'ahau Tupou IV - Current King of Tonga. *The Story of Sinuhe - World's oldest novel. *True Cross - Relic of the Crusades. *Umm Kulthum - Famous Egyptian singer. Articles that I have contributed to: *Alexandria - My mother's birthplace. *Ambient music - Is there some other sort? *Aphrodite's Child - 60s Greek rock group. *Banknote - Worth more than the paper they are printed on. *Decimal calendar - 37 days hath January... *Hub and Die Errors - Things that numismatists get excited about. *Hutt River Province - Australian secessionist state. *List of island nations - Yes, Australia is one. *List of people who were cremated - A burning passion. *Lost city - The reward of carelessness? *Megatsunami - Not to be confused with Freak Wave. *Metric time - A good idea. *Napoleon I - Famous dead French guy. *Noah's Ark - Nothing to do with Indiana Jones. *Numismatics - Great way to spend a salary. *Principality of Marlborough - Mortgage-induced secession. *Ramses III - Last great Egyptian pharaoh. *Republic of Minerva - Failed libertarian experiment. *Sedlec ossuary - Extreme recycling. *Siwa Oasis - Wonderful travel destination. *Spanish Inquisition - Oh those querelous Spaniards! *Sphinx - Not just an Egyptian thing. *Thule (myth) - Beyond the realms of the known world. *Vangelis - Greek electro-symphonic musical wizard. *Vidna Obmana - Belgian ambient music composer. Articles I intend to create or contribute to at some point include: *Art Deco *Assisted suicide *Atlantis Project *Calendar reform *Freedom of movement *Poyais *Republic of Texas (group) *Republic of Cascadia *State of Jefferson *World Service Authority I can be contacted by email at: [mailto:information@atlantium.org]
==Ambient music== Hey, Gene Poole, nice name! Would you take a look at the Ambient music article, where I added a section on isolationist ambient? Maybe you have something to add. Thanks! User:Heidimo 20:25, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC) == Revert warning == Please do not revert an article more than three times within 24 hours. It is advisable to talk differences out, request for page protection, or seek mediation/arbitration instead of reverting. You have already done so on Decimal calendar. If you continue to revert, a Wikipedia:Quickpolls may be started and you may be blocked for 24 hours. The relevant policies and guidelines are at Wikipedia:Quickpolls policy, Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version, Wikipedia:Mediation. Thanks, User:Dori | User talk:Dori 02:18, Apr 8, 2004 (UTC) If people continue to vandalise articles without responding to repeated requests not to do so, or who repeatedly fail to provide documented evidence to support their assertions, or who deliberately revert articles on the basis of specious, subjective reasoning, then I will continue to restore them to a factual, NPOV state. You would be better served directing your warnings at those whose actions necessitate my response. User:Gene_Poole :Sir, if you disagree with a policy please discuss it at the relevant talk page. Otherwise, you should at least attempt to comply with the policy, rather than simply ignore it because you believe that your engaging in actions prohibited by policies is justifiable. Policies exist to be followed and implemented. If you are truly concerned with the integrity of the article, please, request mediation, which is a better way to effect this and one which is permissible under current policies, unlike the application of frequent reversions, which is likely to get you censured and/or banned temporarily, regardless of the POV or factual accuracy of the edits involved. (Only ''simple'' vandalism, such as the blanking of a page with nonsense, is likely to be excluded in this regard). Thank you for your concern in this matter. - User:Fennec 05:18, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC) :::Are the people removing the content Gene is repeatedly restoring being warned about these repetitive reverts? Because the content was present in the original article on 17 Jan 2003. People keep removing it repeatedly, reverting the change that originally added it. Are they being warned about not following Wikipedia policies? User:Jdavidb 18:41, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::I am fully compliant with Wikipedia policies. In the case in question you will note that page protection was repeatedly requested - but nothing was done about it. User:Gene_Poole ==Wik== Hello, you and I have something in common. We are both on User:Wik's list. You might be interested in Wikipedia:Images_for_deletion#April_28 User:Dmn 00:16, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) Hi. Yes, I'd noticed. It's always gratifing to know that you've succeeded in enraging a crackpot/troll/content perverter - using nothing more than facts and consistent, rational reasoning - to the point where they view you as a threat worthy of hysterical co-ordinated ad hominem attacks. Still, I can't help feeling a little pity for someone so obviously thoroughly screwed up. It can't be easy having to live with that level of festering anger chewing away at your insides. --User:Gene Poole 01:54, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) ---- == Empire of Atlantium == I kindly ask you consider not editing Empire of Atlantium (or any Atlantium related article) because Wikipedia generally frowns upon using primary sources. Please also consider removing your anti-Wik message from your user page, and please Wikipedia:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot with Wik and all other users. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 05:04, 3 May 2004 (UTC) Hi. I appreciate your comments, and would point out merely that almost all of the edits I've applied to this article over the past several months (aside from reversions necessary to protect the work of other contributors from targeted vandalism) relate to formatting or improved paragraph layout and/or sentence structure - and not to the content itself. I will be happy to remove my warning concerning Wik when I see evidence of a change in this user's attitude towards Wikipedia's community standards. One hopes this will occur sooner rather than later. --User:Gene Poole 06:24, 3 May 2004 (UTC) ==Wik warning== Hello on your user page you asked "I welcome the views of others on how it might best be combatted." Well I did better than just tell you my views. I managed along with Danny to persuade Wik to remove the list. So your warning about it on your userpage is therefore no longer necessary. I am asking you to remove it please. User:Theresa knott 22:12, 6 May 2004 (UTC) :Thank you :-) User:Theresa knott 07:20, 7 May 2004 (UTC) ==Revert war with Wik== I just wanted to let you know that you violated the three Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version guideline on Talk:Empire of Atlantium, and Wik stopped at the proscribed three edits. Also, it is against Wikipedia policy to remove the comments of other users as you did with User:Racomedia's comments [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3632288&oldid=3627963] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3640351&oldid=3640203] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3640905&oldid=3640884] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3640921&oldid=3640913] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3644760&oldid=3640943], and as Wik removed your comments. Please contact the user whose comments you find offensive and ask them to remove the comment instead of doing it yourself. If they refuse, please follow the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution process. As always, you can leave a message on my talk page and I would be more than happy to answer any questions. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 13:32, 19 May 2004 (UTC) I have reverted your most recent removal [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3658332&oldid=3656112] of Racomedia's comment at Talk:Empire of Atlantium. I very strongly suggest that you refrain from removing other user's comments and referring to other users as "crackpots" or this issue will be taken to the next level. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 12:27, 20 May 2004 (UTC) I very strongly suggest you actually read the rubbish posted by by the user whose comments I am deleting. They consist of (a) a dubious personal observation used as a lead-in to (b) a link to an article on horse racing. The user who posted these comments is correctly referred to as a "crackpot" because they have spammed my personal email address with volumes of semi-coherent personal abuse on 2 separate occasions, and self-published similar borderline defamatory material on a public internet page. You might also wish to note that the user in question has made a grand total of 2 edits since September 2003 - including the abovementioned one. In light of this I take exception to your threats.--User:Gene Poole 01:10, 21 May 2004 (UTC) We do not remove comments from talk pages. User:Danny 01:22, 21 May 2004 (UTC) Well we ought to review our policy.--User:Gene Poole 01:25, 21 May 2004 (UTC) :At this point we are reviewing your conduct. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Gene Poole. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 01:45, 21 May 2004 (UTC) See above comment concerning threats.--User:Gene Poole 02:21, 21 May 2004 (UTC) == Wik == Hey, what exactly happened with Wik? His page says he left on May 21st. Do you know anything? User:Jdavidb 21:48, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC) He/she was banned for a week for abusing community standards, and as a result decided to go for complete martyrdom by making the absence a permanently self-enforced one. Unsurprisingly, nobody seems overly concerned by this.--User:Gene Poole 02:11, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC) Thanks. I share the same amount of concern. :) I was just curious. Did a bit of reading, and I was quite impressed by Jimbo's stance. I'm one of those optimists who wants to honestly feel that anyone can be rehabilitated in an online community, and Jim seems to share the ideal while still holding to the right level of realism for the community. So, life goes on. :) User:Jdavidb 14:22, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC) I'm a natural optimist too - but I also recognise that some people choose to have an irredeemably toxic attitude toward others - and in such cases I can spare them little pity when the inevitable chickens come home to roost.--User:Gene Poole 00:35, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC) == Thanks! == After some consideration, especially after the nice note you left after our shouting match, I've decided to return. I'm limiting my VfD exposure, especially where micronations are concerned! I wish you luck on your future discussions. - User:Lucky 6.9 06:45, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC) == Dropbear == I inserted a section about smearing Vegemite on your face to keep the Dropbears from attacking you. This was part of my understanding of the myth as I was told this when I was a teenager and heard it later as I got older. In your edit of this article you decided to omit this. Is your understanding of the Dropbear myth different to mine? User:One Salient Oversight 03:17, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC) Hi. I've never heard of Vegemite in the context of drop bear mythology, and the reference sounded as though it had been invented by the original article author. In editing the article I tried to reduce it to the most common, generally-accepted elements. Perhaps you could re-insert the Vegemite component, noting it as a localised embellishment of the basic drop bear myth.--User:Gene Poole 09:45, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC) == User:Samboy == As an addition, Gene, I invite you to share some facts with us. In particular, you alledge that there is ''evidence widely available in the public domain'', but all requests for links are ignored. Please supply links supporting your assertion that there is evidence that Empire of Atlantium is worth noting on the list of micronations, or please stop asserting that there is public domain evidence supporting your assertion. User:Samboy 06:41, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Mediation, not arbitartion== George: It is obvious that we are both wasting time in meaningless personal attacks against each other. My issue with you is this: You are trying to conceal your identity when arguing about the relevence of Empire of Atlantium and the relevence non-relevence of other micronations. You also engage in intimidation and personal insults whenever anyone questions the validity of your empire. I can make a case that you are abusive, and already have evidence (which you have already read yourself) of engaging in multiple edit wars. I feel that Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation is the appropriate step at this point. Bascially, what we will do is email each other through a third party, who will be a mediator for our dispute. There are things I need to say to you that are completely inappropriate to talk about in a public forum; I also do not want you to email me personally, but only through a mediator. This way, both of us can have some kind of consensus and will not have to bug the editors with arbitration. If you look at the Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration page, personal disputes between two people are unilaterally rejected. You won't get arbitration for this; but mediation is perfectly reasonable considering the circumstances. I hope we can work something out via mediation. User:Samboy 22:32, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC) ::Additionally, I have deleted all of the discussions we have had on my talk page, and will delete anything you post on any of my user or talk pages. This is a formal request to take it to mediation instead of to my talk page; we need a third party at this point. User:Samboy 01:24, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Glad to help== Under the circumstances, it only seemed fair that an article that survived two VfD's inside a ridiculously short time should stay. I'm convinced that the article wasn't nominated for a lack of notability, and the obvious attempt at some sort of personal attack was enough for me to weigh in, at least with an opinion. It's certainly far better than a lot of what passes for articles around here. Interesting how the article by your biggest detractor is getting its tail kicked in, eh? I may weigh in soon on "general principles" as was previously pointed out. Stay in touch. - User:Lucky 6.9 01:50, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Reverts== Please note that you're only allowed three reverts to one article in a 24 hour period. User:RickKUser talk:RickK 05:51, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC) == User:Gene-Poole/samboy == I moved this page from Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gene Poole/samboy to your user space, as it seems to have been created with the full URL as an article in the main article namespace. --User:Ianb 00:24, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Just to clarify, it's now at User:Gene Poole/samboy, and the original (in the main namespace) has been deleted. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 01:37, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC) OK - thanks for the assistance/relocation - I'm a sub-page creation newbie. --User:Gene Poole 01:53, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==User:VampWillow== I'm considering listing this user on Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#Use_of_administrator_privileges for that disgraceful delete without consensus. Would you be interested in supporting this? User:Dmn 12:53, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Pyramids== Glad you liked the Red Pyramid photo. Bent Pyramid? No, except for one which is just a ''very'' hazy outline against the horizon. On the wish-list for the next trip, though. Inside the Red Pyramid? Erm... nothing outstandingly wonderful that doesn't have idiotically grinning family members on it. I do have two that are views pointing up at the ceiling inside the chamber (very impressive staggered roof, if you've seen it), I don't know how suitable they'd be for an article... want to take a look? I could upload a couple of thumbnails, followed by full-sizers if you feel they can be made to fit in the article. Just don't get too excited before you've seen them. User:Hajor 05:48, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Duly uploaded: :Image:Egypt.Dashur.RedPyramid.02.jpg & :Image:Egypt.Dashur.RedPyramid.03.jpg. I decided to save myself the hassle of resizing, so these are standard 640*480s. Let me know if you want to use them; otherwise I'll list them on ifd in a day or 2. User:Hajor 06:07, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) Pic 02 duly incorporated. It looks somewhat unbalanced, but I'm afraid it's getting late here. And wow! Inside that thing with no electricity! The air extraction system wasn't working either, I imagine? User:Hajor 06:26, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) :When I was there, there was definitely a noisy old generator near the door connected to a very long pipe leading down to the burial chamber -- although, now thinking about it, I think it was blowing in rather than sucking out. Glorious smell of diesel.
:If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in Cholula, the pyramid that the Mexicans claim is bigger (yeah, ok, ''strictu sensu''...) than the Egyptian ones. I've just uploaded a couple of pics of that one, too. Giza it ain't. User:Hajor 01:08, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC) ''Very'' impressive set of photos that Canadian gent has got. Sure -- drop him a line, explain the project to him, butter him up. (Somewhere in the [[Wikipedia:... namespace, there's a form letter, a permission letter, that you could perhaps use a starting point.) Maybe he could be talked into releasing some of his photos under the GFDL or one of the Creative Commons licenses -- perhaps even public domain? ("For use on wikipedia only" photos do exist, but they're sort of discouraged, depending on who sees you do it.) Say you'd provide a link back to his website from the Image details page -- if he's interested in driving traffic to his site (I see he also sells his pics as prints), he might just nibble at the bait. He doesn't appear to have any sort of copyright notice on his page, so (with a little luck) he's not that uptight about spreading his pics around. User:Hajor 01:47, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Great news on the Canadian photos! Now, incorporating photos into articles: the page you need to be consulting is Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Couple of quick hints: :*This business with < div > commands is really only useful if you want to "stack" two pics on top of each other. Otherwise, its largely obsolete: the modern image markup commands introduced earlier this year -- [ [ image | thumb | right | caption ] ] -- are more than adequate (and very flexible, and a whole lot easier) for single photos aligned alongside text. :*The command for breaking a section after a pic and its corresponding text is < br style="clear:both;" >. :Did the photographer not indicate any language (copyright status, contact info) he wanted included on the Image: pages? User:Hajor 04:39, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC) Pyramids (Egyptian) looks great in Internet Explorer, but in my Opera the text and pics are shonw superimposed (when the pic is to the left). I suspect this is because of the < div > boxes. Can I take a crack at eliminating them? User:Hajor 05:00, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Hello, there. Re an appropriate tag for the pyramid texts. Wikipedia:Image copyright tags is the page you want. It depends whether the photographer granted Wikipedia an exclusive right to use them, or whether he okayed their use by people who take and reuse our material in other places (third party use). If the former, then you want ; if the latter, then perhaps or . (It's easier for the project if you can get external photographers to agree to licence their stuff under the GFDL, but explaining that arcane tract of legalese to some bloke you cold-called over the internet ain't my idea of fun, either.) Cheers, User:Hajor 13:44, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) Thanks for the note about Pyramids: The Next Generation down in Nubia: something I know even less about (odd half-hours on the History Channel notwithstanding), but I certainly take a look. (I see you don't appear to have minded my shifting all the photos to the right on Egyptian pyramids -- I'm afraid it was making me a little dizzy.) User:Hajor 13:11, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC) *Hi Gene Poole, :I see you have got a fledgling Egyptian project going on with Hajor - go to it! One potential problem - I noticed at some point that you mentioned your Canadian friend might still be reserving some rights over the new pyramid photos. I've just asked for confirmation on the Wikipedia:Village pump#Non-commercial_images, but Jimbo recently made an announcement to ban/discourage all images which were effectively neither Public Domain/GFDL or Fair Use. See [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012133.html Jimbo's email] and Wikipedia:Copyright_FAQ. :Of course, this might not be a problem once you have decided what the correct licences are, if you can persuade him to use GFDL (which still requires attribution to the original author). -- User:Solipsist 17:03, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC) :::Howdy again. Concerning the copyright business on the photographs on Egyptian pyramids, the copyright owner basically said "no problemo" when I asked to use them; he didn't place any conditions on our use of the images, but asked nicely if we'd include links to his site. He did not specifically state any objection to their use by other third parties, and obviously the images themselves are already in the public domain. Would you read that as a "fair use" scenario? --User:Gene Poole 02:40, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC) ::::No, I doubt it is fair use. That's more 'its copyright, but there are good reasons why we should ignore it'. This case sounds more like a GFDL license - can we assume that your friend is happy for anyone else downstream to also use the images as long as they still credit him? If so then you are probably good for a GFDL license, although ideally you should get his explicit agreement. Then you credit your friend by putting their name on each Image page, along with a link to their web site and a
With regards to vandalism, the surest option is to ask a developer to run a sock-check on the users in question. This is best accomplished on the IRC chat, but you could drop a note on a talk page as well. - User:Fennec User_Talk:Fennec
*Oh, the fun we're having here. Just got your note, and if anyone can polish that article, you can. I seem to be at odds as well with one of the two users you mentioned. I'm working to block a problem user, and the user that's hindering you is not only reverting my motions to delete the problem entries, he's doing little else beyond wikifying them. If you haven't already, please take a look at User talk:B-Movie Bandit to see what I mean. It's just too weird. Meantime, I'd be glad to keep an eye on the Atlantium article. Once it's cleaned up, I'll change my vote without hesitation. As I pointed out, it's a fascinating subject. Hang tough and stay in touch. - User:Lucky 6.9 00:45, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
**Oops...I meant "Sealand." Sorry. Off to sneak a peek at what you've done. - User:Lucky 6.9 00:55, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
== Gzornenplatz ==
Gzornenplatz does stalk people, clearly. I don't know what happened between you two so I'm reluctant to comment on that. But he's battling me on a couple of articles right now. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 00:51, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Getting someone banned is almost impossible. I've had to deal with far worse users than Gz who were and in many cases still are being tolerated. You're welcome to try, but in my experience he is simply editing aggressively and stalking other users' edits, neither of which is a violation of Wikipedia policy. (And even if it were, nothing would be done anyway.) There is a Wikipedia:Requests for mediation pending involving him and me, FWIW. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 01:16, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
== Arbitration case ==
The case involving you has now been opened; see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Gene Poole vs. Samboy.
Yours,
User:Jdforrester User_talk:Jdforrester 04:42, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC) == Micronation == Sorry, I have enough stress, I don't need to get into THAT quagmire. User:RickKUser talk:RickK 23:29, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC) == Floating island == Hi, I am writing about the article Floating island. You originally wrote "many hundreds of hectares". Since 100 hectares = 1 km², I simplified it into "many square kilometres". You then changed this to "many hectares". Was your original description of the area 100 times too big? Just curious. User:Bobblewik User talk:Bobblewik 15:31, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC) :Thanks for your reply. It is possible that 'hundreds of metres across?' may be more readily understood by the average Wikipedia reader including those in the UK and US. Just a thought. Regards User:Bobblewik User talk:Bobblewik 07:34, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC) ==Self-promotion== Mostly because it's your site. You'll notice I put it back as well. User:Snowspinner 06:34, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC) ==Enclave== I notice your argument "embassy territory *is* sovereign territory. there is no legal distinction" for including the Knights of Malta's building in Rome as a sovereign enclave. While the question of whether the Knights of Malta is considered a sovereign nation is a tricky one, your argument would seem to say that every country, by dint of having embassies or High Commissions present within it, would have as many enclaves as the number of embassies. I haven't removed your point from the article but we may need to include the distinction in the article. --User:Roisterer 00:10, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC) ==Gzornenplatz== I have created a Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Gzornenplatz, regarding User:Gzornenplatz's behavior, that you may be interested in. User:Ugen64 02:15, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC) == Hello Gene == Well I can see that you are into this micronation subject in a big way. I agree that it is interesting but it can also be annoying when reality is crowded out by fantasy. The problem is that what exists in cyberspace about "Sealand" does not exist in the real world. By the way. the "Sealand" discussion page is running, or I should say has run out of space. Either someone needs to delete old stuff or file it or whatever and start a new page. Anyway, I just wanted to stop on your page to say a friendly "hello". User:MPLX 02:35, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Okay, I take your point that a lot of media coverage has established a subject called "Sealand". Yes, I agree that is a fact. I also agree with you that Roy and Michael can claim what they want to claim because it is their right to do so. Freedom of speech, etc., etc. So I agree with you on that as well. Now this is where I am coming from: :There is a disconnect between something existing because someone claims that it exists and establishing what exactly it is that exists. Let me put it this way. What if I mounted a campaign and I claimed to be a person from the Planet Glob, but that in order not to frighten people I appear to be a human being. However, I claim, we people from Glob are so different from Earth people that the mere sight of us would cause the average human person to become scared and possibly want to kill me. So I have the ability to appear human. Now what is wrong with that story? The answer is nothing at all. :But then if I ask is it true? Then you have to decide whether or no it is true. If you decide that you want to know the answer you have to investigate. First of all you find that I have human parents and that my human birth can be verified. So then you check on my human parents and verify that they are human. Next you wonder what my motive is for creating this story which is obviously not true. :I have investigated Roy and Michael and Joan - I have spoken with them. I have investigated their British and other claims and guess what? They are full of holes. They are simply not true. This is not what I have read in a paper, this is what I know for a fact. I also know what the UK says from the Crown solicitors on down. I know this for a fact. I know what the Police say. I know that although the Bates family have claimed many things, most of them are untrue. I know this for a fact. So you ask, why are they there? Well they are there because unlike the USA who would blast them away, the UK has a habit of letting things be and when they get out of hand they slap the person down behind the scenes and this is what has happened to the Bates family over and over again. The problem is that they have created a hoax and no one really cares. It is "buyer beware". If you get suckered in to their schemes you only have yourself to blame, is the official response. :But should an encyclopedia help to promote a hoax or should the hoax be exposed? I say that the hoax should be explained but the encyclopedia should not be a cause of more people falling victim to a hoax in which they can and have lost money. User:MPLX 05:07, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) == Art Deco and Sealand == It would seem that we have more than Sealand in common because I am also interested in Art Deco. Art Deco as such is a well-documented modern term dating from the 1960s in England which has been retroactively applied back to the French exposition which did not use that term at all. There is in fact an actual starting place, date and time and author for this term. I have the research somewhere and I will pass it on to you if you are interested. I will not touch your art deco page and you may wish to incorporate the material I was referring to. But since I will have to find out where I put this material I am not going to look unless you have an interest. Let me know. On the Sealand thing we are basically in totally agreement except on the hoax and fraud issue. The fact is that I personally know a lot of the inside legal story of this set-up and I can tell you that the British government has quietly slapped down every one of Roy Bates' ideas. He managed to con Ryan Lackey and he got stuck like the people who bought the Lichfield I ship got stuck, because there was no jurisdiction in which to sue Roy Bates. That is the key to this whole thing. He claims to have postage - but he only has stamps which cannot be used. Same for money. Same for law. There is no population and there is no law because there is no court. The UK knows this and therefore the problem is finding a British venue in which to sue Roy Bates. It should be where he lived near Southend (that is where his home was and Michael's is at Leigh on Sea.) But Bates has now moved. Then there is the problem of proving what it is that you are suing him for. To sue Roy Bates as a British citizen means using UK courts. Ryan Lackey is a US citizen and he cannot sue Bates in the USA because Bates does not live there. Lackey cannot sue "Sealand" because the US courts have already ruled that "Sealand" does not exist. So that means that he has to sue Bates in England with a British lawyer. Now we are talking money. The first question is how much money does Bates have? If you sue someone who is either broke or who has hidden their money somewhere else you are stupid to sue such a person because the only person to win is the lawyer who gets paid by the client. So if you tried to sue in "Sealand" (believe me I know this issue first hand) you would be laughed to scorn. First of all the UN and the nations of the world say that "Sealand" does not exist and therefore there is no "Sealand law". Second, to sue in "Sealand" you would have to be on the barge. But the barge is just that - a barge with a caretaker most of the time. So how could they even constitute a court when the only people they could muster would be Bates' family friends? Knowing this Lackey looked at the ship case and he saw that those people were swindled and lost thousands. Lackey has to eat his losses in the same way. There is no redress. On to top of that Lackey stuck his neck out and at first defended the myth of "Sealand" and attacked the UK. So the UK is quite happy to let Lackey rot = serves him right! = is their response. More than this Bates is protected by an army of people creating a myth which the press loves just as it loves stories about man bites dog and flying saucers. So if Wiki is to retain any degree of authority it has to get rid of this silly "Sealand" page and dump it under the Roy Bates' Sealand Hoax or some similar title. Keeping up this present farce is enough to make me want to quit Wiki and it is also a slap in the face of everyone who has been swindled. User:MPLX 17:26, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC) == New Utopia == I'll take a look. But I'm involved in a number of other conflicts right now (including before the ArbCom) and can't really pick up another. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 23:39, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC) == Deletionism == Hi! Thanks for your post to my talk page. I also think that people are spending too much time destroying the work of others instead of making their own articles. I suggest you and everyone keep copies of articles up for deletion, in wikiformat, just click edit, and copy it into a text file :). The inclusionist's talk page might be a useful place to put up articles that might not deserve to be deleted. It will save us hours of having to review that delete page, which is also a big waste of time that could be better spent on making articles instead of putting up with deletionists :). Bye for now, --User:ShaunMacPherson 02:24, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC) :Hi Gene. I saw your message on Shaun MacPherson's talk page. Good to see your support for historically verifiable topics on Wikipedia, continue to fight the good fight and don't lose hope. RaD_Man\">en:RaD_Man_(User_talk:Radman1)">User:Radman1|RaD_Man\">en:RaD Man (User_talk:Radman1) 22:38, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:Same goes for me, I don't have time to fight User:Ambi, and frankly I am afraid of that editor. She messaged me (over AIM) and threatened to have me banned if I broke any rules in our conflict. I eventually gave up because sealand is not such a big deal and my time is limited as it is. --User:Sunborn 04:16, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
== Deletionism and Arbitration ==
I'm very much for preserving the Micronation articles, so thanks for pointing that vote out to me.
As far as the arbitration goes, your supposed bias is only the icing on the cake of your rules violations. You need to Wikipedia:Stay cool. Discourse, not edit wars, will win the day for inclusionist Wikipedians and responsible editors. Be willing to compromise and defer to other editors, even if you don't agree with them. Backing off on an edit and commenting on the talk page (and citing sources) will often result in support from friendly editors and respect from opponents. (And, if not, that may mean consensus is against you. That's how it goes sometimes in a democracy). Don't be adfraid of mediation (especially since it can avoid the more extreme measure of arbitration). But I guess that's enough of a lecture, eh?
I read the whole case, and left some comments for the arbitrators, but I was limited in what I could reasonably do. I did:
* Protest the use of your alleged identity in this case, as your right to privacy should be respected and its use in this case was prejudicial, as it implies bias in and of itself, and bias should be evaluated purely based on your actions in Wikipedia.
* Request that your sanctions be temporary instead of permanent, as the proposed sanctions seemed quite extreme.
Please feel free to point out Micronation or other inclusionist issues in the future, and I will consider all of your suggestions. --User:L33tminion | User talk:L33tminion 06:03, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)
: Indeed. I thought such use of past record was patently unfair, since it had nothing to do with Wikipedia. It's pretty clear that User:Samboy does have some personal issues with you. He more or less said so when he requested mediation. But the arbitrators were more concerned by three revert violations, which are considered to be very serious, and etiquette issues (calling someone a "crackpot stalker" or "poisonous" won't sway friends to your side, no matter how mean that person actually was to you). I try to view such editors not as enemies or radicals, but rather as teammates that I don't agree with on specific issues, and treat them as such. --User:L33tminion | User talk:L33tminion 17:32, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)
::And you're ranting on the arbitration page now? Gah! That's kind of shooting yourself in the foot... --User:L33tminion | User talk:L33tminion 17:56, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)
:::Just calm down. I don't support User:Samboy, but you're not helping your case. --User:L33tminion | User talk:L33tminion 05:34, Nov 3, 2004 (UTC)
== Pyramid pictures ==
Hi! I hope you still check this page every now and then, because I need some answers.
To be more specific, the following pictures have been uploaded to :commons:Main Page, and we need to know their source to make sure they are free to use. So, did you take them yourself? Get them from someone who allows GFDL, or similar? Please let us know!
*:Image:Pyramid of sneferu bent 01.jpg
*:Image:Pyramid_of_sneferu_meidun_01.jpg
*:Image:Pyramid_of_amenemhet_hawarra_01.jpg
*:Image:Pyramids_of_niuserre_and_neferirkare_01.jpg
*:Image:Pyramids_at_giza_01.jpg
User:Ranveig 17:03, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
== Article Licensing ==
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Gene Poole
I'm a 30-something male resident of Sydney who discovered Wikipedia late in 2002. I happily admit to being an eccentric and a polymath; I hold a design degree, work in the telecommunications industry, and spend a lot of my time pursuing professional interests in alternative politics, radio broadcasting, music production, calendar reform, architectural photography, business management, philately, numismatics, vexillology and 20th century heritage conservation. And occasionally, Wikipedia. All of this means that I have a need to be efficient with my time, and as a result I have a very low tolerance for fools, the wilfully stupid, pedants, dogmatists, sophists and career deletionists. When it comes to Wikipedia I am an unashamed egalitarian inclusionist, and support the creation and retention of articles on any subject that can be verified by two or more documentary third-party ''offline'' sources ''and which is also'' unique and/or interesting enough to be a subject that someone, somewhere, sometime is likely to research on Wikipedia. Articles that I have created: *2MBS - Australia's oldest and largest public radio FM station. *4 o'clock wave - An interesting piece of local Australian lore. *ANZAC War Memorial - Australia's finest Art Deco public building. *Araucania and Patagonia - A doomed 19th Century South American kingdom. *Aurora Islands - Mysterious phantom islands in the south Atlantic. *Avram - A full-blown Tasmanian eccentric. *Bent Pyramid - The most unusual pyramid in Egypt. *Dashur - An important pyramid site near Cairo. *Egyptian pyramids - An overview of the pyramid-building phenomenon. *Empire of Atlantium - The political lobby group I co-founded. *Floating islands - An unusual but common phenomenon. *Fort Dennison - The last martello tower ever built. *Freak wave - A fascinating, terrifying natural phenomenon. *Garden Palace - Site of the Sydney International Exhibition of 1879. *Independent State of Aramoana - New Zealand environmental secessionist state. *Independent State of Rainbow Creek - Another rural Australian secessionist state. *List of largest gatherings in history - Mine is bigger than yours! *List of Art Deco buildings in Melbourne - see below. *List of Art Deco buildings in Sydney - the start of an intended project. *List of Art Deco buildings in Tasmania - see above. *Nan Tien temple - The largest Buddhist temple in the southern hemisphere. *Nation of Celestial Space - The biggest micronation ever! *Nubian pyramids - The little-known pyramids of Sudan. *Padstow, New South Wales - *Panania, New South Wales - Where I lived as a child. *Panania railway station, Sydney - Where I caught trains as a child. *Province of Bumbunga - Outback Australian eccentric British monarchist. *Potts Point, New South Wales - The suburb of inner-Sydney in which I live. *Red Pyramid - The world's first true pyramid. *Riverwood, New South Wales *Sovereign State of Aeterna Lucina - The country that banned blue icecream. *Trim (cat) - The first feline to circumnavigate Australia. Articles that I have substantially re-written: *Artistamp - Unique and interesting artform. *Australian legislative election, 2007 - Vote early and vote often! *Beverly Hills, New South Wales - Where I spent much of my adolescence. *Bludger - Common Australian colloquialism. *Caduceus - Not to be confused with Rod of Asclepius. *Coin collecting - Very expensive obsession. *Darling Harbour - Sydney harbourside precinct. *Drop bear - Imaginary Australian fauna. *Exploding toad - Things that go bang in the night. *Great Sphinx of Giza - Famous big Egyptian statue. *King street wharf - Another Sydney harbourside precinct. *Kings Cross, New South Wales - Sydney's red light district *Krakatoa - Famous Indonesian volcano. *Micronation - Countries that are not quite countries. *Powerhouse Museum - Sydney's museum of Science and Technology. *Rod of Asclepius - Not to be confused with Caduceus. *Rose Island - 1960s artificial island country. *Sealand - Artificial island principality in the English Channel. *Sedang - Ephemeral 19th Century southeast Asian kingdom. *Taufa'ahau Tupou IV - Current King of Tonga. *The Story of Sinuhe - World's oldest novel. *True Cross - Relic of the Crusades. *Umm Kulthum - Famous Egyptian singer. Articles that I have contributed to: *Alexandria - My mother's birthplace. *Ambient music - Is there some other sort? *Aphrodite's Child - 60s Greek rock group. *Banknote - Worth more than the paper they are printed on. *Decimal calendar - 37 days hath January... *Hub and Die Errors - Things that numismatists get excited about. *Hutt River Province - Australian secessionist state. *List of island nations - Yes, Australia is one. *List of people who were cremated - A burning passion. *Lost city - The reward of carelessness? *Megatsunami - Not to be confused with Freak Wave. *Metric time - A good idea. *Napoleon I - Famous dead French guy. *Noah's Ark - Nothing to do with Indiana Jones. *Numismatics - Great way to spend a salary. *Principality of Marlborough - Mortgage-induced secession. *Ramses III - Last great Egyptian pharaoh. *Republic of Minerva - Failed libertarian experiment. *Sedlec ossuary - Extreme recycling. *Siwa Oasis - Wonderful travel destination. *Spanish Inquisition - Oh those querelous Spaniards! *Sphinx - Not just an Egyptian thing. *Thule (myth) - Beyond the realms of the known world. *Vangelis - Greek electro-symphonic musical wizard. *Vidna Obmana - Belgian ambient music composer. Articles I intend to create or contribute to at some point include: *Art Deco *Assisted suicide *Atlantis Project *Calendar reform *Freedom of movement *Poyais *Republic of Texas (group) *Republic of Cascadia *State of Jefferson *World Service Authority I can be contacted by email at: [mailto:information@atlantium.org]
Gene Poole
==Ambient music== Hey, Gene Poole, nice name! Would you take a look at the Ambient music article, where I added a section on isolationist ambient? Maybe you have something to add. Thanks! User:Heidimo 20:25, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC) == Revert warning == Please do not revert an article more than three times within 24 hours. It is advisable to talk differences out, request for page protection, or seek mediation/arbitration instead of reverting. You have already done so on Decimal calendar. If you continue to revert, a Wikipedia:Quickpolls may be started and you may be blocked for 24 hours. The relevant policies and guidelines are at Wikipedia:Quickpolls policy, Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version, Wikipedia:Mediation. Thanks, User:Dori | User talk:Dori 02:18, Apr 8, 2004 (UTC) If people continue to vandalise articles without responding to repeated requests not to do so, or who repeatedly fail to provide documented evidence to support their assertions, or who deliberately revert articles on the basis of specious, subjective reasoning, then I will continue to restore them to a factual, NPOV state. You would be better served directing your warnings at those whose actions necessitate my response. User:Gene_Poole :Sir, if you disagree with a policy please discuss it at the relevant talk page. Otherwise, you should at least attempt to comply with the policy, rather than simply ignore it because you believe that your engaging in actions prohibited by policies is justifiable. Policies exist to be followed and implemented. If you are truly concerned with the integrity of the article, please, request mediation, which is a better way to effect this and one which is permissible under current policies, unlike the application of frequent reversions, which is likely to get you censured and/or banned temporarily, regardless of the POV or factual accuracy of the edits involved. (Only ''simple'' vandalism, such as the blanking of a page with nonsense, is likely to be excluded in this regard). Thank you for your concern in this matter. - User:Fennec 05:18, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC) :::Are the people removing the content Gene is repeatedly restoring being warned about these repetitive reverts? Because the content was present in the original article on 17 Jan 2003. People keep removing it repeatedly, reverting the change that originally added it. Are they being warned about not following Wikipedia policies? User:Jdavidb 18:41, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::I am fully compliant with Wikipedia policies. In the case in question you will note that page protection was repeatedly requested - but nothing was done about it. User:Gene_Poole ==Wik== Hello, you and I have something in common. We are both on User:Wik's list. You might be interested in Wikipedia:Images_for_deletion#April_28 User:Dmn 00:16, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) Hi. Yes, I'd noticed. It's always gratifing to know that you've succeeded in enraging a crackpot/troll/content perverter - using nothing more than facts and consistent, rational reasoning - to the point where they view you as a threat worthy of hysterical co-ordinated ad hominem attacks. Still, I can't help feeling a little pity for someone so obviously thoroughly screwed up. It can't be easy having to live with that level of festering anger chewing away at your insides. --User:Gene Poole 01:54, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) ---- == Empire of Atlantium == I kindly ask you consider not editing Empire of Atlantium (or any Atlantium related article) because Wikipedia generally frowns upon using primary sources. Please also consider removing your anti-Wik message from your user page, and please Wikipedia:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot with Wik and all other users. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 05:04, 3 May 2004 (UTC) Hi. I appreciate your comments, and would point out merely that almost all of the edits I've applied to this article over the past several months (aside from reversions necessary to protect the work of other contributors from targeted vandalism) relate to formatting or improved paragraph layout and/or sentence structure - and not to the content itself. I will be happy to remove my warning concerning Wik when I see evidence of a change in this user's attitude towards Wikipedia's community standards. One hopes this will occur sooner rather than later. --User:Gene Poole 06:24, 3 May 2004 (UTC) ==Wik warning== Hello on your user page you asked "I welcome the views of others on how it might best be combatted." Well I did better than just tell you my views. I managed along with Danny to persuade Wik to remove the list. So your warning about it on your userpage is therefore no longer necessary. I am asking you to remove it please. User:Theresa knott 22:12, 6 May 2004 (UTC) :Thank you :-) User:Theresa knott 07:20, 7 May 2004 (UTC) ==Revert war with Wik== I just wanted to let you know that you violated the three Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version guideline on Talk:Empire of Atlantium, and Wik stopped at the proscribed three edits. Also, it is against Wikipedia policy to remove the comments of other users as you did with User:Racomedia's comments [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3632288&oldid=3627963] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3640351&oldid=3640203] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3640905&oldid=3640884] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3640921&oldid=3640913] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3644760&oldid=3640943], and as Wik removed your comments. Please contact the user whose comments you find offensive and ask them to remove the comment instead of doing it yourself. If they refuse, please follow the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution process. As always, you can leave a message on my talk page and I would be more than happy to answer any questions. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 13:32, 19 May 2004 (UTC) I have reverted your most recent removal [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Empire_of_Atlantium&diff=3658332&oldid=3656112] of Racomedia's comment at Talk:Empire of Atlantium. I very strongly suggest that you refrain from removing other user's comments and referring to other users as "crackpots" or this issue will be taken to the next level. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 12:27, 20 May 2004 (UTC) I very strongly suggest you actually read the rubbish posted by by the user whose comments I am deleting. They consist of (a) a dubious personal observation used as a lead-in to (b) a link to an article on horse racing. The user who posted these comments is correctly referred to as a "crackpot" because they have spammed my personal email address with volumes of semi-coherent personal abuse on 2 separate occasions, and self-published similar borderline defamatory material on a public internet page. You might also wish to note that the user in question has made a grand total of 2 edits since September 2003 - including the abovementioned one. In light of this I take exception to your threats.--User:Gene Poole 01:10, 21 May 2004 (UTC) We do not remove comments from talk pages. User:Danny 01:22, 21 May 2004 (UTC) Well we ought to review our policy.--User:Gene Poole 01:25, 21 May 2004 (UTC) :At this point we are reviewing your conduct. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Gene Poole. --ICK\"">User:Hcheney User talk:Hcheney 01:45, 21 May 2004 (UTC) See above comment concerning threats.--User:Gene Poole 02:21, 21 May 2004 (UTC) == Wik == Hey, what exactly happened with Wik? His page says he left on May 21st. Do you know anything? User:Jdavidb 21:48, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC) He/she was banned for a week for abusing community standards, and as a result decided to go for complete martyrdom by making the absence a permanently self-enforced one. Unsurprisingly, nobody seems overly concerned by this.--User:Gene Poole 02:11, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC) Thanks. I share the same amount of concern. :) I was just curious. Did a bit of reading, and I was quite impressed by Jimbo's stance. I'm one of those optimists who wants to honestly feel that anyone can be rehabilitated in an online community, and Jim seems to share the ideal while still holding to the right level of realism for the community. So, life goes on. :) User:Jdavidb 14:22, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC) I'm a natural optimist too - but I also recognise that some people choose to have an irredeemably toxic attitude toward others - and in such cases I can spare them little pity when the inevitable chickens come home to roost.--User:Gene Poole 00:35, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC) == Thanks! == After some consideration, especially after the nice note you left after our shouting match, I've decided to return. I'm limiting my VfD exposure, especially where micronations are concerned! I wish you luck on your future discussions. - User:Lucky 6.9 06:45, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC) == Dropbear == I inserted a section about smearing Vegemite on your face to keep the Dropbears from attacking you. This was part of my understanding of the myth as I was told this when I was a teenager and heard it later as I got older. In your edit of this article you decided to omit this. Is your understanding of the Dropbear myth different to mine? User:One Salient Oversight 03:17, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC) Hi. I've never heard of Vegemite in the context of drop bear mythology, and the reference sounded as though it had been invented by the original article author. In editing the article I tried to reduce it to the most common, generally-accepted elements. Perhaps you could re-insert the Vegemite component, noting it as a localised embellishment of the basic drop bear myth.--User:Gene Poole 09:45, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC) == User:Samboy == As an addition, Gene, I invite you to share some facts with us. In particular, you alledge that there is ''evidence widely available in the public domain'', but all requests for links are ignored. Please supply links supporting your assertion that there is evidence that Empire of Atlantium is worth noting on the list of micronations, or please stop asserting that there is public domain evidence supporting your assertion. User:Samboy 06:41, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Mediation, not arbitartion== George: It is obvious that we are both wasting time in meaningless personal attacks against each other. My issue with you is this: You are trying to conceal your identity when arguing about the relevence of Empire of Atlantium and the relevence non-relevence of other micronations. You also engage in intimidation and personal insults whenever anyone questions the validity of your empire. I can make a case that you are abusive, and already have evidence (which you have already read yourself) of engaging in multiple edit wars. I feel that Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation is the appropriate step at this point. Bascially, what we will do is email each other through a third party, who will be a mediator for our dispute. There are things I need to say to you that are completely inappropriate to talk about in a public forum; I also do not want you to email me personally, but only through a mediator. This way, both of us can have some kind of consensus and will not have to bug the editors with arbitration. If you look at the Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration page, personal disputes between two people are unilaterally rejected. You won't get arbitration for this; but mediation is perfectly reasonable considering the circumstances. I hope we can work something out via mediation. User:Samboy 22:32, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC) ::Additionally, I have deleted all of the discussions we have had on my talk page, and will delete anything you post on any of my user or talk pages. This is a formal request to take it to mediation instead of to my talk page; we need a third party at this point. User:Samboy 01:24, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Glad to help== Under the circumstances, it only seemed fair that an article that survived two VfD's inside a ridiculously short time should stay. I'm convinced that the article wasn't nominated for a lack of notability, and the obvious attempt at some sort of personal attack was enough for me to weigh in, at least with an opinion. It's certainly far better than a lot of what passes for articles around here. Interesting how the article by your biggest detractor is getting its tail kicked in, eh? I may weigh in soon on "general principles" as was previously pointed out. Stay in touch. - User:Lucky 6.9 01:50, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Reverts== Please note that you're only allowed three reverts to one article in a 24 hour period. User:RickKUser talk:RickK 05:51, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC) == User:Gene-Poole/samboy == I moved this page from Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gene Poole/samboy to your user space, as it seems to have been created with the full URL as an article in the main article namespace. --User:Ianb 00:24, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Just to clarify, it's now at User:Gene Poole/samboy, and the original (in the main namespace) has been deleted. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 01:37, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC) OK - thanks for the assistance/relocation - I'm a sub-page creation newbie. --User:Gene Poole 01:53, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==User:VampWillow== I'm considering listing this user on Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#Use_of_administrator_privileges for that disgraceful delete without consensus. Would you be interested in supporting this? User:Dmn 12:53, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC) ==Pyramids== Glad you liked the Red Pyramid photo. Bent Pyramid? No, except for one which is just a ''very'' hazy outline against the horizon. On the wish-list for the next trip, though. Inside the Red Pyramid? Erm... nothing outstandingly wonderful that doesn't have idiotically grinning family members on it. I do have two that are views pointing up at the ceiling inside the chamber (very impressive staggered roof, if you've seen it), I don't know how suitable they'd be for an article... want to take a look? I could upload a couple of thumbnails, followed by full-sizers if you feel they can be made to fit in the article. Just don't get too excited before you've seen them. User:Hajor 05:48, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Duly uploaded: :Image:Egypt.Dashur.RedPyramid.02.jpg & :Image:Egypt.Dashur.RedPyramid.03.jpg. I decided to save myself the hassle of resizing, so these are standard 640*480s. Let me know if you want to use them; otherwise I'll list them on ifd in a day or 2. User:Hajor 06:07, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) Pic 02 duly incorporated. It looks somewhat unbalanced, but I'm afraid it's getting late here. And wow! Inside that thing with no electricity! The air extraction system wasn't working either, I imagine? User:Hajor 06:26, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) :When I was there, there was definitely a noisy old generator near the door connected to a very long pipe leading down to the burial chamber -- although, now thinking about it, I think it was blowing in rather than sucking out. Glorious smell of diesel.
:If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in Cholula, the pyramid that the Mexicans claim is bigger (yeah, ok, ''strictu sensu''...) than the Egyptian ones. I've just uploaded a couple of pics of that one, too. Giza it ain't. User:Hajor 01:08, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC) ''Very'' impressive set of photos that Canadian gent has got. Sure -- drop him a line, explain the project to him, butter him up. (Somewhere in the [[Wikipedia:... namespace, there's a form letter, a permission letter, that you could perhaps use a starting point.) Maybe he could be talked into releasing some of his photos under the GFDL or one of the Creative Commons licenses -- perhaps even public domain? ("For use on wikipedia only" photos do exist, but they're sort of discouraged, depending on who sees you do it.) Say you'd provide a link back to his website from the Image details page -- if he's interested in driving traffic to his site (I see he also sells his pics as prints), he might just nibble at the bait. He doesn't appear to have any sort of copyright notice on his page, so (with a little luck) he's not that uptight about spreading his pics around. User:Hajor 01:47, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Great news on the Canadian photos! Now, incorporating photos into articles: the page you need to be consulting is Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Couple of quick hints: :*This business with < div > commands is really only useful if you want to "stack" two pics on top of each other. Otherwise, its largely obsolete: the modern image markup commands introduced earlier this year -- [ [ image | thumb | right | caption ] ] -- are more than adequate (and very flexible, and a whole lot easier) for single photos aligned alongside text. :*The command for breaking a section after a pic and its corresponding text is < br style="clear:both;" >. :Did the photographer not indicate any language (copyright status, contact info) he wanted included on the Image: pages? User:Hajor 04:39, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC) Pyramids (Egyptian) looks great in Internet Explorer, but in my Opera the text and pics are shonw superimposed (when the pic is to the left). I suspect this is because of the < div > boxes. Can I take a crack at eliminating them? User:Hajor 05:00, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC) :Hello, there. Re an appropriate tag for the pyramid texts. Wikipedia:Image copyright tags is the page you want. It depends whether the photographer granted Wikipedia an exclusive right to use them, or whether he okayed their use by people who take and reuse our material in other places (third party use). If the former, then you want ; if the latter, then perhaps or . (It's easier for the project if you can get external photographers to agree to licence their stuff under the GFDL, but explaining that arcane tract of legalese to some bloke you cold-called over the internet ain't my idea of fun, either.) Cheers, User:Hajor 13:44, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) Thanks for the note about Pyramids: The Next Generation down in Nubia: something I know even less about (odd half-hours on the History Channel notwithstanding), but I certainly take a look. (I see you don't appear to have minded my shifting all the photos to the right on Egyptian pyramids -- I'm afraid it was making me a little dizzy.) User:Hajor 13:11, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC) *Hi Gene Poole, :I see you have got a fledgling Egyptian project going on with Hajor - go to it! One potential problem - I noticed at some point that you mentioned your Canadian friend might still be reserving some rights over the new pyramid photos. I've just asked for confirmation on the Wikipedia:Village pump#Non-commercial_images, but Jimbo recently made an announcement to ban/discourage all images which were effectively neither Public Domain/GFDL or Fair Use. See [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012133.html Jimbo's email] and Wikipedia:Copyright_FAQ. :Of course, this might not be a problem once you have decided what the correct licences are, if you can persuade him to use GFDL (which still requires attribution to the original author). -- User:Solipsist 17:03, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC) :::Howdy again. Concerning the copyright business on the photographs on Egyptian pyramids, the copyright owner basically said "no problemo" when I asked to use them; he didn't place any conditions on our use of the images, but asked nicely if we'd include links to his site. He did not specifically state any objection to their use by other third parties, and obviously the images themselves are already in the public domain. Would you read that as a "fair use" scenario? --User:Gene Poole 02:40, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC) ::::No, I doubt it is fair use. That's more 'its copyright, but there are good reasons why we should ignore it'. This case sounds more like a GFDL license - can we assume that your friend is happy for anyone else downstream to also use the images as long as they still credit him? If so then you are probably good for a GFDL license, although ideally you should get his explicit agreement. Then you credit your friend by putting their name on each Image page, along with a link to their web site and a
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User:Jdforrester User_talk:Jdforrester 04:42, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC) == Micronation == Sorry, I have enough stress, I don't need to get into THAT quagmire. User:RickKUser talk:RickK 23:29, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC) == Floating island == Hi, I am writing about the article Floating island. You originally wrote "many hundreds of hectares". Since 100 hectares = 1 km², I simplified it into "many square kilometres". You then changed this to "many hectares". Was your original description of the area 100 times too big? Just curious. User:Bobblewik User talk:Bobblewik 15:31, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC) :Thanks for your reply. It is possible that 'hundreds of metres across?' may be more readily understood by the average Wikipedia reader including those in the UK and US. Just a thought. Regards User:Bobblewik User talk:Bobblewik 07:34, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC) ==Self-promotion== Mostly because it's your site. You'll notice I put it back as well. User:Snowspinner 06:34, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC) ==Enclave== I notice your argument "embassy territory *is* sovereign territory. there is no legal distinction" for including the Knights of Malta's building in Rome as a sovereign enclave. While the question of whether the Knights of Malta is considered a sovereign nation is a tricky one, your argument would seem to say that every country, by dint of having embassies or High Commissions present within it, would have as many enclaves as the number of embassies. I haven't removed your point from the article but we may need to include the distinction in the article. --User:Roisterer 00:10, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC) ==Gzornenplatz== I have created a Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Gzornenplatz, regarding User:Gzornenplatz's behavior, that you may be interested in. User:Ugen64 02:15, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC) == Hello Gene == Well I can see that you are into this micronation subject in a big way. I agree that it is interesting but it can also be annoying when reality is crowded out by fantasy. The problem is that what exists in cyberspace about "Sealand" does not exist in the real world. By the way. the "Sealand" discussion page is running, or I should say has run out of space. Either someone needs to delete old stuff or file it or whatever and start a new page. Anyway, I just wanted to stop on your page to say a friendly "hello". User:MPLX 02:35, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Okay, I take your point that a lot of media coverage has established a subject called "Sealand". Yes, I agree that is a fact. I also agree with you that Roy and Michael can claim what they want to claim because it is their right to do so. Freedom of speech, etc., etc. So I agree with you on that as well. Now this is where I am coming from: :There is a disconnect between something existing because someone claims that it exists and establishing what exactly it is that exists. Let me put it this way. What if I mounted a campaign and I claimed to be a person from the Planet Glob, but that in order not to frighten people I appear to be a human being. However, I claim, we people from Glob are so different from Earth people that the mere sight of us would cause the average human person to become scared and possibly want to kill me. So I have the ability to appear human. Now what is wrong with that story? The answer is nothing at all. :But then if I ask is it true? Then you have to decide whether or no it is true. If you decide that you want to know the answer you have to investigate. First of all you find that I have human parents and that my human birth can be verified. So then you check on my human parents and verify that they are human. Next you wonder what my motive is for creating this story which is obviously not true. :I have investigated Roy and Michael and Joan - I have spoken with them. I have investigated their British and other claims and guess what? They are full of holes. They are simply not true. This is not what I have read in a paper, this is what I know for a fact. I also know what the UK says from the Crown solicitors on down. I know this for a fact. I know what the Police say. I know that although the Bates family have claimed many things, most of them are untrue. I know this for a fact. So you ask, why are they there? Well they are there because unlike the USA who would blast them away, the UK has a habit of letting things be and when they get out of hand they slap the person down behind the scenes and this is what has happened to the Bates family over and over again. The problem is that they have created a hoax and no one really cares. It is "buyer beware". If you get suckered in to their schemes you only have yourself to blame, is the official response. :But should an encyclopedia help to promote a hoax or should the hoax be exposed? I say that the hoax should be explained but the encyclopedia should not be a cause of more people falling victim to a hoax in which they can and have lost money. User:MPLX 05:07, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) == Art Deco and Sealand == It would seem that we have more than Sealand in common because I am also interested in Art Deco. Art Deco as such is a well-documented modern term dating from the 1960s in England which has been retroactively applied back to the French exposition which did not use that term at all. There is in fact an actual starting place, date and time and author for this term. I have the research somewhere and I will pass it on to you if you are interested. I will not touch your art deco page and you may wish to incorporate the material I was referring to. But since I will have to find out where I put this material I am not going to look unless you have an interest. Let me know. On the Sealand thing we are basically in totally agreement except on the hoax and fraud issue. The fact is that I personally know a lot of the inside legal story of this set-up and I can tell you that the British government has quietly slapped down every one of Roy Bates' ideas. He managed to con Ryan Lackey and he got stuck like the people who bought the Lichfield I ship got stuck, because there was no jurisdiction in which to sue Roy Bates. That is the key to this whole thing. He claims to have postage - but he only has stamps which cannot be used. Same for money. Same for law. There is no population and there is no law because there is no court. The UK knows this and therefore the problem is finding a British venue in which to sue Roy Bates. It should be where he lived near Southend (that is where his home was and Michael's is at Leigh on Sea.) But Bates has now moved. Then there is the problem of proving what it is that you are suing him for. To sue Roy Bates as a British citizen means using UK courts. Ryan Lackey is a US citizen and he cannot sue Bates in the USA because Bates does not live there. Lackey cannot sue "Sealand" because the US courts have already ruled that "Sealand" does not exist. So that means that he has to sue Bates in England with a British lawyer. Now we are talking money. The first question is how much money does Bates have? If you sue someone who is either broke or who has hidden their money somewhere else you are stupid to sue such a person because the only person to win is the lawyer who gets paid by the client. So if you tried to sue in "Sealand" (believe me I know this issue first hand) you would be laughed to scorn. First of all the UN and the nations of the world say that "Sealand" does not exist and therefore there is no "Sealand law". Second, to sue in "Sealand" you would have to be on the barge. But the barge is just that - a barge with a caretaker most of the time. So how could they even constitute a court when the only people they could muster would be Bates' family friends? Knowing this Lackey looked at the ship case and he saw that those people were swindled and lost thousands. Lackey has to eat his losses in the same way. There is no redress. On to top of that Lackey stuck his neck out and at first defended the myth of "Sealand" and attacked the UK. So the UK is quite happy to let Lackey rot = serves him right! = is their response. More than this Bates is protected by an army of people creating a myth which the press loves just as it loves stories about man bites dog and flying saucers. So if Wiki is to retain any degree of authority it has to get rid of this silly "Sealand" page and dump it under the Roy Bates' Sealand Hoax or some similar title. Keeping up this present farce is enough to make me want to quit Wiki and it is also a slap in the face of everyone who has been swindled. User:MPLX 17:26, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC) == New Utopia == I'll take a look. But I'm involved in a number of other conflicts right now (including before the ArbCom) and can't really pick up another. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 23:39, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC) == Deletionism == Hi! Thanks for your post to my talk page. I also think that people are spending too much time destroying the work of others instead of making their own articles. I suggest you and everyone keep copies of articles up for deletion, in wikiformat, just click edit, and copy it into a text file :). The inclusionist's talk page might be a useful place to put up articles that might not deserve to be deleted. It will save us hours of having to review that delete page, which is also a big waste of time that could be better spent on making articles instead of putting up with deletionists :). Bye for now, --User:ShaunMacPherson 02:24, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC) :Hi Gene. I saw your message on Shaun MacPherson's talk page. Good to see your support for historically verifiable topics on Wikipedia, continue to fight the good fight and don't lose hope. RaD_Man\">en:RaD_Man_(
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