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__NOTOC__ *User talk:Gdr */Articles */Gallery */To do */3rd-party images */Date proposal ==Bots== */DYKbot — assists with updating Template:Did you know. */Nomialbot — performs various operations on Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/taxobox usage. */Yearbot — assists with updating "Births" and "Deaths" sections in Wikipedia:WikiProject Years. ==See also== The "see also" section is rarely useful. It often contains: * links that are duplicates of links that appear in the article itself; * links whose relevance to the topic is not clear; * overly general links (the utterly useless "see also: History" is extremely common [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/History]) I think it's much better to work links into the article in contexts which explains their relevance. ==Headings== Articles of fewer than a thousand words usually work better without headings. Headings make things easier to find, but in narrative articles such as descriptions of historical events they break up the flow and waste space. Wikipedia isn't a newspaper so there's no need to draw in the reader with subheadings. Headings impose a schema on the article and so restrict your choice of how to organize the material. Especially bad in this way are "standard" headings like "Early life" in a biography which usually add nothing of value to the article; see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Ramon_Llull&oldid=5149287] for a biography that has six headings and needs none. Even worse is the article that has all the "standard" headings but no content, for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Battle_of_Xiangyang&oldid=1955814] has six headings but no content at all. This might be justifiable as one step on the way to a good article, but for an article that will never be more than a few hundred words it is positively harmful because it restricts future contributors. Compare ''The Man Who Was Thursday'' with headings [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=The_Man_Who_Was_Thursday&oldid=5433410] and without [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=The_Man_Who_Was_Thursday&oldid=5437861]. The version with headings has decent content, but the content is completely overwhelmed by the headings and tables, and diluted by the rigid following of the "standard" scheme. An unusual fault is to put all the content in the headings! [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Sieges_of_Stirling_Castle&oldid=5145152] ==Reliance on Google== The hoax article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Battle_of_Blenau&oldid=4670059 Battle of Blenau] shows why it's dangerous to rely on Google. A Google search for "blenau" in August 2004 found 50 hits, all apparently confirming the information in the article. However, all the "hits" were mirrors of Wikipedia and hence copies of the hoax itself. This fooled at least one Wikipedian [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Battle_of_Blenau]. The web is simply not yet a good source for information on obscure historical events. In August 2004 a Google search for a real event, the "Battle of Bl�neau", only found one hit in English [http://www.impens.com/cgi-bin/fiche.cgi?UK&05]. A more sophisticated hoaxer, who took the trouble to refer to real people, and who didn't exaggerate the importance of their fictional event, could keep Wikipedians in doubt for a lot longer.

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==Submarine names== A question: is it Wikipedia style to italicise the names of Japanese submarines? The names of German subs aren't italicised, e.g. U-47.User:Grant65 User talk: Grant65 00:00, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC) :They are in some articles, e.g. Unterseeboot 238, HMS Kite (U87) etc. User:Gdr 00:25, 2005 Apr 13 (UTC) ::HMS Kite I can understand, but surely U-___, I-___ (et c.) by themselves are more like pennant numbers, as in the case of E-boats? I have just moved AE1 and AE2, which someone had turned into the entirely fictious "HMAS AE1" and "HMAS AE2"! *lol* User:Grant65User talk: Grant65 10:44, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC) ==Second Rzhev-Sychevka Offensive== Please see Talk:Second Rzhev-Sychevka Offensive and comment. User:Mikkalai 04:51, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Talk:P�ter Cardinal Erd� == Please see Talk:P�ter Cardinal Erd� I have tried to list the diffrent options. Please make sure that my cut and past job reflects your position. User:Philip Baird Shearer 10:11, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Talk:Second Rzhev-Sychevka Offensive == Hi Gdr, we've opened a discussion about the naming of the above article, i believe you have previously worked on it and it would be great if you could come add some input. --User:Pluke 23:43, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Congratulations! == Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an Wikipedia:Administrators. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the Wikipedia:administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- User:Cecropia | User talk:Cecropia 14:23, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) ==Adminship== Congratulations, on your promotion. ALKIVAR">User:Alkivar™ 18:39, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) :Thank you. User:Gdr 22:26, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC) Thank you for supporting my nomination for administrator. User:Wwoods 05:14, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) :You're welcome. User:Gdr 22:26, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC) ==Timur== Hi Gdr, I have written some things on the Nestorians on nl.wiki and on their websites I came across mention that Timur was the one responsible for a veritable holocaust amongst the church of the east. With your warning about relying on google in mind I wonder if we could clarify this point further. I do not have any non-internet sources for this. Do you ?:nl:JcwfUser:152.1.193.141 13:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) :''(See Talk:Timur)'' == Delta-number combinations == Did you remember several days ago when you were working with some dis-ambiguation pages of Alpha-number, Bravo-number, and Charlie-number combinations?? Why aren't you thinking about the Delta section?? (See User:Georgia guy/Letter number combinations for the current status of all 26 sections.) User:Georgia guy 00:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC) :I don't have time for everything! User:Gdr 22:26, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC) ==Captain class frigate== Re: your last edit of Captain class frigate and your comment ''(no need for two columns; add some more ships; not a Royal Navy frigate)'' - without two columns it looks over long but hey I'm new here so if this is the house style it is the house style but I still think it makes the page over long. As to the ''add more ships'' bit... there were only 78 I can not add any more than there were. Finally I do not understand the ''not a Royal Navy frigate'' bit - these ships were commissioned into the Royal Navy as Frigates. Nice work in general in cleaning up this & both the Evarts_class_destroyer_escort and Buckley_class_destroyer_escort articles, thank you. User:Charlesesmith 15:43 11 April 2005 == Christopher Cradock image == Hi Gdr, I belatedly realised it is policy to inform the uploader when an image is up for deletion. I uploaded my own version of :Image:Christopher Cradock.jpg to Commons and got yours deleted here. I didn't expect you to mind but it would have been polite to let you know. User:Gsl 23:02, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) :Don't worry. I noticed the deletion and the image you found is better quality than the one I found. User:Gdr 11:57, 2005 Apr 22 (UTC) == DYK archive == I've re-added a piece of text you deleted from the archive section at Did you know talk. You don't need to archive to recent additions. AllyUnion created a bot to do it automatically and this bot uses the line you deleted as an anchor to determine where to start counting the items. User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 20:17, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC) :You also seem to have archived some new items to a subarchive which were accidently added to the bottom of the list; not sure who did that. (New items go to the top, archived stuff is taken from the bottom). I've reverted so the bot can fix it. If you like doing suchs edits manually, I'd like to ask you to read the big red sign I posted to the top of Recent additions and make sure no one made any errors, before archiving. Thank you! User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 20:44, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC) ::I wouldn't mind if you tried again, but why do something that's done automatically anyway? To me it seems like throwing away time you could use for other stuff. I'll make clearer note of the bot on Template talk:Did you know and WP:DYK. User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 05:07, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC) == Single digit numbers == Hey, I noticed you've just switched all the redirects on the single digit numbers so (for example) going to 2 will now go to the article 2 (year) instead of the article about the number 2. Was that agreed somewhere or did you just decide to do it? I'm wondering because it seems like a strange non-intuitive decision to make; if most people see a '5' written somewhere, they'll think about the number 5, not the year 5.. User:Proto 14:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) :That's how it always used to be; see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). User:Sj moved these nine articles this morning without getting a consensus. So I moved them back. The right place to discuss this is Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Rename articles in first decade of the common era?. User:Gdr 14:30, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC) P.S. See for example Special:Whatlinkshere/2. ::: Maybe so, but not for any very good reason. The discussion surrounding AD, BC, and digits/years has been revisited occasionally, but never very thoroughly. And now we have excellent articles on the digits. User:Sj+">User Talk:Sj 16:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) ::Just found the discussion, sorry about that. User:Proto 14:40, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) == 5 AD, AD 5, et al == Yes, "proper style" also suggests listing "Marlon Brando" at "Brando, Marlon" ; both are distinctly counter to the norms of casual spoken/written English. This discussion in particular exists in the history of the style guide. While redirs from both might be appropriate, redirs from "5 AD" at al will be by far the more often used. User:Sj+">User Talk:Sj 16:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) == Gallery on your userpage == I noticed that on your user page you have a section called gallery. That is very interesting, and a concept I had worked on in the William-Adolphe_Bouguereau_gallery. I believe that these 'visual' list articles are very useful and would like to hear what you think about a project or a general push towards making more gallery listings. Thanks for your time, --User:ShaunMacPherson 11:53, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC) == James Knight == I took a closer look at this, there is definitely something weird going on - many of the "changes" by me I didn't actually make. I certainly didn't remove the disambigs. It's almost as though I were editing an earlier version (but I wasn't). Could it be some kind of server cache latency bug? I've never seen something like this before. User:Fawcett5 20:00, 6 May 2005 (UTC) == DYK == Hello, Gdr. I see that you've updated DYK about 45 minutes before midnight UTC yesterday with 4 new items, and then added one more item to balance the columns on MainPage. Unfortunately, I had to hide that fifth item. The left side of the MainPage automatically updates at midnight UTC and DYK became too long. Thought I should let you know what I did. Hope it's okay. TakeCare. -- User:PFHLai 01:38, 2005 May 10 (UTC) == DYK update == *23:13, May 9, 2005 Gdr (four new DYKs: medieval hunting, Brooklyn Brewery, Josiah Belden, Project Exile) *22:52, May 9, 2005 Vaoverland m (Showmen's Rest is also a new article) *21:50, May 9, 2005 MacGyverMagic (UPDATED (3 new items)) My update was up for a mere 1 hour and 23 minutes. That's quite a bit too short. It should be at least 6. Could you please check when the template was last updated before doing it the next time? User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 07:00, May 10, 2005 (UTC) :I relied on the time for next update given in Template talk:Did you know. But I was out by a day due to editing in time zone +0100 but the server being in UTC. Sorry. User:Gdr 08:17, 2005 May 10 (UTC) == Image tags == Hi, you asked me to add image tags to my quiz images, :Image:Qu1.jpg to :Image:Qu14.jpg. Let me assure you that all the images are Wikipedia images (and thus are tagged elsewhere): I just renamed them and uploaded them a second time. If I added descriptions I'd be likely to give away the solutions to the questions. If you do not find this answer satisfactory please contact me again. Best wishes, User:KF 13:05, May 11, 2005 (UTC) :Okay, I'll do that -- not today, but as soon as possible. User:KF 13:13, May 11, 2005 (UTC) ::Done. User:KF 10:20, May 26, 2005 (UTC) == Did you know? ==

:Template:Did you know has been updated and a fact from the article Dutch ship Brederode, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at :Template talk:Did you know.

:Template:Did you know has been updated and a fact from the article Simon de Vlieger, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at :Template talk:Did you know.

==Time zone== The DYK template talk page has the date of the last update and the current time and date in UTC. This should prevent any mistakes in the future. You made a mistake, but I'd still like to see you make updates in the future. See ya! User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 18:16, May 12, 2005 (UTC) == Years and Numerals == Hi Gdr! Please read and comment on my new Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29#Proposed_changes proposal, affecting years that are also numerals. User:Sj+">User Talk:Sj 20:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC) ==Belated Thanks== I should have thanked you days ago for sorting out that bunch of links on LOFNAP, but I got distracted. It was/is much appreciated. --User:Mothperson 22:05, 12 May 2005 (UTC) == Regarding pywikipedia protect function... == How would you like to work together for an autoprotection bot for stuff that appears on the main page? --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 01:30, 13 May 2005 (UTC) ==Gdrbot?== :10:14, 13 May 2005 Gdr m (gdrbot - dykbot - updating Template:Did you know - 4 new entries) *Can you tell me what Gdrbot does? (User talk:MacGyverMagic, not logged in) User:131.211.210.12 11:50, 13 May 2005 (UTC) == Breadth first recursion == Way back (Aug. 3, 2004) you merged Breadth first recursion with Breadth first search, deleting its contents. Now, I'm no expert, but it seems to me that recursion is precisely what the latter article fails to deal with. It appears to me that the algorithm shown will fail on a recursive tree, whereas the Breadth first recursion article dealt with the problem. Am I missing something? -- User:Mwanner 15:06, May 14, 2005 (UTC) :I don't know. What is a "recursive tree"? (That's not a standard term in the study of algorithms.) User:Gdr 15:31, 2005 May 14 (UTC) ::I'm sorry, I mean a tree that loops back on itself. I'm interested because that's what WP categories do, and I would love to have the ability to map them. I did something of the sort manually for :Category:United States history (see Category talk:United States history/U.S. History map) and it is not something I would want to do again. It seems to me that Breadth first search would go into an infinite loop on such a tree, while Breadth first recursion appears to deal with the problem. I could well be off base here-- I haven't done any programming for many years. -- User:Mwanner 17:13, May 14, 2005 (UTC) :You mean a search of a general graph? All that needs is a minor modification to the algorithm for searching a tree: just check that you haven't seen a node yet before adding it to the queue. (I made this modification in the article this afternoon.) User:Gdr 21:04, 2005 May 14 (UTC) ::Thanks. Sorry for the terminology muddle. -- User:Mwanner 00:53, May 15, 2005 (UTC) == Protection of Images on the MainPage == Hello, Gdr. Just wanna let you know that :Image:VanGogh-Portait-of-Dr-Gachet.jpg, which you have unprotected earlier today, is scheduled to be on the MainPage soon. Unlike DYK or ITN, the Selected Anniversaries section (SA) is updated at midnight UTC automatically. Images on SA templates are usually protected in advance. I've re-protected this image. I suppose you know about this, and have simply misread the date, eh ? Never mind then. Just checking ..... Happy editing. :-) -- User:PFHLai 19:09, 2005 May 14 (UTC) : Hey, Gdr, no need to apologise. No harm was done. :-) Take Care. -- User:PFHLai 19:30, 2005 May 14 (UTC) == Re: Protection/unprotection for pywikipediabot == # It was a suggestion made at Wikipedia:Bot requests to somehow automate protection # My user and talk pages are only protected from being moved. They aren't protected from editing. It's not like I need to move my user page anywhere. --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 03:38, 15 May 2005 (UTC) == DYK templates == Are you done with Template:Did you know footer & Template:Did you know header? They don't appear to be in use. If you are done, would you delete them? -- User:Netoholic User talk:Netoholic 05:22, 2005 May 16 (UTC) :They are in use every time I update Template:Did you know (using ). See User:Gdr/DYKbot. User:Gdr 08:19, 2005 May 16 (UTC) :: Since they are only in use for your bot, can you please then move them into your user space. You can still subst: them from there, but this will avoid confusion and questions, like mine. -- User:Netoholic User talk:Netoholic 15:11, 2005 May 16 (UTC) :As you wish. User:Gdr 15:25, 2005 May 16 (UTC) == Hey, thanks! == I upload an article (history of Swansea), I go out for the evening, and by the time I get back, it has received its first addition. Wow. Thanks :) User:Telsa 21:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC) ==Graham Berry== Thanks, but the "fact" given on the main page is wrong. Berry did ''not'' break the power of the Legislative Council, as the article makes clear. Please fix this. User:Adam Carr 00:12, 18 May 2005 (UTC) :Sorry about that. You did make it quite clear. User:Gdr 08:36, 2005 May 18 (UTC) == Thanks, but I have a question == Thank you for the useful link. However, I have a question: if you're spell-checking articles using another client, often they'll push a certain style (and don't have the ability to use multiple dictionaries), so you'd have to switch between English (US) or English (Great Britain) etc. In articles that are not clearly "focusing on a topic specific to a particular English-speaking country", is there a good way for gauging what the current style of the article is? User:Ambush Commander 20:38, May 18, 2005 (UTC) == Cheirogaleus == Cheirogaleus should not be linked to Lesser Dwarf Lemur. The Cheirogaleus article should be about the genus, not one of the species in the genus. I've deleted the redirect. - User:UtherSRG 00:16, May 19, 2005 (UTC) :My original idea was to make a link from the genus if Wikipedia has a single article on a species in that genus. But you're right, it's wrong to do that unless the genus is monotypic. I will remove the other inappropriate redirects I made. User:Gdr 09:05, 2005 May 19 (UTC) == Commons admin == You are now an Commons:Commons:Administrators on Commons. Congratulations! User:Aurevilly ♦ User talk:Aurevilly 14:32, 19 May 2005 (UTC) :Thank you. User:Gdr 14:34, 2005 May 19 (UTC) :: Congratulations ! User:Rama 21:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC) == :Image:Helst, Self-portrait.jpg on the Main Page == Oops ! That was very careless of me. Glad that you've fixed that. Thank you. Someone just made a similar mistake at ITN. I'll go fix that now. -- User:PFHLai 22:58, 2005 May 19 (UTC) : Oh, wait a minute. Protected at the Commons ? I have never done that before. How do I do that ? -- User:PFHLai 23:07, 2005 May 19 (UTC) Yes, images on the Commons are an awkward wrinkle when trying to protect the Main Page. To protect images on the Commons, you first get an account on the Commons, then you apply for adminship at :commons:Commons:Administrators, then if you succeed you can protect and unprotect as normal. An alternative procedure is to upload a copy of the image to the English wikipedia under the same name and protect that, then delete it when it's not on the Main Page any more. User:Gdr 23:25, 2005 May 19 (UTC) : How about uploading to, say, Image:DYK-pic.jpg or Image:ITN-pic.jpg, etc. and keep them permanently mprotected ? -- User:PFHLai 00:24, 2005 May 20 (UTC) :: Don't worry about this idea of mine. It won't work smoothly. :: Anyway, a much belated thank you for your explanation last week. Thanks, again. -- User:PFHLai 00:24, 2005 May 26 (UTC) == taxobot == It is ''normal'' for species to be listed as in Alligator gar, with abbreviated genuses in the template. What I noted about families (Blaberidae,Blattellidae) treated as if they were species was my mistake: these are incorrect taxoboxes that should not use either or . Since I am currently converting/fixing taxoboxes for all bird species, a daunting task if I ever performed one, I am less than inclined to work on these, but I am sure there are plenty folks at WP:TOL and its subprojects (which you might want to alert to the problem) to help in this.User:Circeus 00:43, May 20, 2005 (UTC) ==Bot== Hello. User:Gdrbot now has a bot flag. If you ever need this removed, just ask at meta:Requests for permissions. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 14:43, May 20, 2005 (UTC) :Thank you. User:Gdr 19:54, 2005 May 20 (UTC) ==Didiereaceae== Thanks for digging out the image and putting it on DYK! - User:MPF 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC) :For the Main Page I needed an image I was pretty sure was public domain! User:Gdr 22:30, 2005 May 23 (UTC) == Taxobox fix == Hi. Thankyou for fixing my mistake in the taxobox on Treble-bar. I knew that was going to happen sooner or later! I'll try to be more careful in future. User:Richard Barlow 11:31, 24 May 2005 (UTC) :It was discovered by an automated examination of all taxoboxes; see User:Gdr/Nomialbot/Report 2005-05-19 for many more typos. User:Gdr 11:36, 2005 May 24 (UTC) That's impressive! It's reassuring to know this will be cleaning up after me! User:Richard Barlow 11:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC) == Uwe Kils == no - and who are you? User:Oceanographer 19:30, 24 May 2005 (UTC) *I'm the Queen of Sheba. User:Gdr 19:32, 2005 May 24 (UTC) ==Taxobox bot== Hi Gdr - nice one on getting this set up. Wondering, would it be possible to set it up so that it inserts instead of the simple one (without author) for plant taxoboxes? Or would this be too difficult to separate from animal taxoboxes? I can 'follow on behind' to insert missing authors for at least some, probably most, plants. - User:MPF 23:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC) :The bot is only running with supervision at the moment; there are still too many unusual cases. I think it will be a few days before I have confidence to let it run unattended. Anyway, I'll do what you say for plant taxoboxes. User:Gdr 23:40, 2005 May 24 (UTC) ::Super, thanks. Another one (I don't know how bots work so have no idea if this is feasible!) is that the species line used to have just the epithet, and in bold (e.g. ''amamiana''), now it has the genus abbreviation as well, and not bold (''P. amamiana''). Would a bot be able to insert this as well, or is that too complex? - User:MPF 23:52, 24 May 2005 (UTC) :(1) I programmed the genus abbreviation; see for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brown_Pelican&diff=0]. (2) Are you sure that species shouldn't be in bold? At Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Taxobox Usage#Bold/italic markup it says, "The final taxon is bold, due to it being the subject of the article". (I'm not an expert on taxoboxes, so I could be misinterpreting the guidelines, or the guidelines could be out of date.) User:Gdr 00:07, 2005 May 25 (UTC) ::Thanks; about the bold final taxon, I'd interpreted this as the final line (which goes bold automatically as part of the template), not the line . But it's always possible I'm wrong . . . User:MPF 14:28, 25 May 2005 (UTC) :I'll ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. User:Gdr 14:45, 2005 May 25 (UTC) Guess I'm a bit late here - but could the auto taxobox image size be upped to 240px or 250px please? The current 200px is a bit small, as it often means that the image is smaller than the longest name in the box; it needs to be larger than the longest name so as to fit snugly in the box. - Thanks, User:MPF 22:32, 25 May 2005 (UTC) :I'll add it to a list of things to do on a subsequent pass over the taxoboxes. User:Gdr 22:36, 2005 May 25 (UTC) ::Thanks; another error I fear I've found, the bot cut out any supplementary lines like and . I've put these back for the pines affected (e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macedonian_Pine&diff=prev&oldid=14234235], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macedonian_Pine&diff=0&oldid=14234235]) and one or two others, but I may well have missed some in plants, and I've not even looked in animal pages - User:MPF 22:05, 26 May 2005 (UTC) Yes, it looks like I cut out all subgenera. Oops. I'll see what I can do. User:Gdr 23:00, 2005 May 26 (UTC) I checked through all of Nomialbot's edits, and subgenera were removed in these cases: *Bosnian Pine - was Pinus classification *Chihuahua White Pine - was Pinus classification *European Black Pine - was Pinus classification *Gray Pine - was Pinus classification *Japanese Black Pine - was Pinus classification *Korean Pine - was Pinus classification *Maritime Pine - was Pinus classification *Siberian Pine - was Pinus classification *Sumatran Pine - was Pinus classification *Tenasserim Pine - was Pinus classification *Macedonian Pine - was Pinus classification You seem to have restored all of these by hand. I'm sorry about the mistake. I'll check for other removed taxa next. User:Gdr 09:06, 2005 May 31 (UTC) == Bots == I believe your bot checks for bad links, redirects and disambigs. I don't know much about bots, but I was looking for one to automatically do these things for some of my articles. I want to know 1) Is it possible for me to run the bot? 2) if not, how do I do the same automatically (human assisted)? Thanks, =user:Nichalp (User Talk:Nichalp)= 07:42, May 25, 2005 (UTC) :The program that fixes redirects and links to disambiguation pages is called solve_disambiguation.py, and it's a standard component of "pywikipediabot" (a suite of Python programming language tools for reading and editing wikipedia). There are some notes at the top of m:Interwiki bot/Getting started which will get you going (up to "Running the robot"), then read the comment at the top of solve_disambiguation.py which tells you how to run it. User:Gdr 11:55, 2005 May 25 (UTC) ==Taxobox images== The Gdrbot appears to be removing thumbnail specifications in taxobox "Images". See the Chukar for example. User:Mdf 22:30, 25 May 2005 (UTC) Hi, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_Reef_Egret&diff=14243561&oldid=14236405 last edit] by Gdrbot on Eastern Reef Egret stuffed up the taxobox's image; Don't get me wrong - the bot seems very useful as the conversion from old to new style is definitely useful, but there seems to be a small bug in the bit that removed the "fledglings]]" bit of the image link, and probably also the bit that removed the "thumb" attrib from the image, and possibly also in the bit that works out what the caption should be (although all these may be related) - i.e. I think [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_Reef_Egret&diff=0&oldid=14243561 this edit] does what you wanted. -- All the best, User:Nickj User talk:Nickj 02:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC) :Yes, my code made a mess of several taxobox images by (a) removing "thumb" (because thumbnail images look bad in taxoboxes) but not adding a width; and (b) mangling image markup when the image caption included a wiki link. Other articles affected were Babirusa, Painted tongue, Clown Triggerfish, Sidewinder (snake), Marsh Warbler, Tree Swallow, White-winged Tern, Green Sandpiper, Great Tit, Emberizidae, Mahi-mahi, Yam, Hooded Vulture, Black-tailed Godwit, Cyclura, Oriental Small-clawed Otter, Phyllodactylus angustidigitus, Black Eagle, Vampire bat, Sedge Warbler, Phelsuma modesta leiogaster, Rodrigues day gecko, Madagascar day gecko, Sambar Deer. I've fixed all of these. :Please let me know if the bot made other mistakes; I'll fix them. User:Gdr 07:23, 2005 May 26 (UTC) == Rainbow boa == Gdrbot removed the text from the article while updating the taxbox. I assume that this was not intentional? User:Guettarda 02:58, 26 May 2005 (UTC) :This was a rather severe bug. It also happened to Snowy Egret. I did a brief check for others and didn't find any. I'll do a more thorough check today. User:Gdr 07:22, 2005 May 26 (UTC) == Aquificales genera incertae sedis == Yeah, but the article on Aquificae before I got to it ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aquificae&oldid=14319513]) listed Aquificales genera incertae sedis as separate from unclassified Aquificales, and it called them both "famil[ies]". So that's weird. On the other hand, [http://www.im.microbios.org/25march04/07%20Griffiths.pdf this source] says "The Order Aquificales comprises four genera: Aquifex, Calderobacterium, Hydrogenobacter and Thermocrinis." (The source says it's quoting from "Reysenbach A-L, Phylum BI (2001) Aquificae phy. nov. In: Boone DR, Castenholz RW (eds) Bergey�s Manual of Systematic Bacteriology. Springer-Verlag, Berlin, 2nd edn., pp. 359�367".) In contrast, the Wikipedia page lists many more genera in 2-4 families, depending on interpretation. Also, [http://www.museums.org.za/bio/eubacteria/ this source] says the phylum has 5 genera. I'm not sure what to make of it all. – User:Quadell ^{(User_talk:Quadell) (Wikipedia:Image sleuthing)} 19:15, May 27, 2005 (UTC) ==rose== Hi I just noticed a previous editor has renamed one of the images in that collection (see rose) as a ''rosa''. So... given that I am far from good for classification... and that now two editors say it is a ''rosa''; I was probably wrong in my naming scheme :-) Cheers. User:Anthere 08:09, 29 May 2005 (UTC) == Battlebox == I was making the code xhtml/css compliant and applying the standard style for template infoboxes (class="toccolours"). See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=Infobox&namespace=10 this list] for examples. ed_g2s">User:Ed g2s • talk">User talk:ed_g2s 16:38, 29 May 2005 (UTC) == Barnstar == Your many improvements to taxoboxes, both with and without bots, is quite impressive. Looking through your other contributions, you've certainly done a lot for Wikipedia, in both your work and your suggestions. You're a valuable member of the Wikipedia community, and I'm grateful for all you've done. – User:Quadell ^{(User_talk:Quadell) (Wikipedia:Image sleuthing)} 20:28, May 31, 2005 (UTC) :Thank you. User:Gdr 21:36, 2005 May 31 (UTC) == Gdrbot edit summaries == Could you please change Gdrbot's current edit summaries so that they don't say "Wikipedia python library" but what the bot is really doing? Thanks! User:Sam Hocevar 13:33, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Sorry about that. I'll be more careful in future. Gdrbot was replacing instances of on talk pages with to avoid creating an open-ended burden on the servers should the template need to be changed. Anyway, they are all done now. User:Gdr 13:38, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC) == Kurando-san ran DYK today == Kurando-san ran the DYK archive today. You might want to look over its edits and correct anything if it did something wrong. --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 18:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Re: DYK archive == I'd be happy to give you the source code if you like and you can see if you can attempt to debug it. --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 19:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) : I figured you'd say that. I think the problem is that it may be matching incorrectly for the last line. I will look into it. Was there anything else odd that you saw? --User:AllyUnion User talk:AllyUnion 06:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Grunion== Heck, I just finished uploading those images, and you've already snuck them into the Grunion article (as well as helped neaten the article up a bit and add a little more wikification). Thanx for the help. User:BlankVerse User talk:BlankVerse 13:40, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Group / Series== Hi Gdr - there seemed to have been some confusion; the article I moved was about Cultivar Groups; a series in Botany is a ''taxonomic'' rank between subsection and species (genus - subgenus - section - subsection - series - species), nothing to do with cultivars at all. After moving the page, I re-did the Series (Botany) page to reflect this. As an aside, the trinomial nomenclature article (as I noted on its talk page a while back) needs some heavy editing; trinomial nomenclature is a zoology term, not used in botany, and all the plant stuff in it should really be removed - User:MPF 19:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Just realised there's ''two'' pages, Series (Botany) and Series (botany), the latter still a redirect to Group (Botany) - I'll move the wrongly capitalised one across (if it doesn't need admin assistance) - User:MPF 19:40, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::It does need admin assistance - can you do it? - User:MPF 19:40, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Thanks; I think it would be best all merged at cultivar. I'm not sure if cultivar series is a term officially sanctioned by the ICNCP, I've not come across it before, only Cultivar Group; given that the ICNCP and ICBN people work together, I wouldn't be surprised if they 'disapprove' of it because of the risk of confusion with the taxonomic term. Could it be it is a term only used by the nursery industry (which is notoriously lax over naming principles!)? - User:MPF 19:59, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Good point; agreed. Want me to do anything or can I leave it in your hands? - User:MPF 20:13, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) == DYK == Is there a particular reason that Template:Did you know has not been updated for more than a day? — User:82.139.82.191 :No-one's done it. User:Gdr 14:33, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC) == :Image:Regiomontanus.jpg == It appears you're right about that image, which would have been obvious to me if I had bothered to actually read TFA ;-) Unfortunately, I don't know who that picture shows, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have called it "PD by age" if it wasn't so. That leaves deletion with or without prior upload to the commons, for the "Can you identify that thing?" page. --User:Magnus Manske 20:02, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC) ==Nomialbot== When I created those redirects manually, I always added the template Template:R from scientific name. Even though it currently doesn't show when displaying the redirect page (a bug introduced with MediaWiki 1.4), it IMHO still makes sense to add the template. Also, be a bit more careful with creating genus redirects to a species - Eurycea isn't monophyletic, maybe just the taxobox of the only species in that genus which has an article was lacking the link to genus. But no problem, I already replaced your redirect with a stub on that genus. User:Ahoerstemeier 11:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) :What's the purpose of ? It doesn't appear to be documented anywhere. :Nomialbot creates redirects from a genus name to a species article when the genus is marked as monotypic in the taxobox (i.e. highlighted in bold). But I see that there are many articles with the genus bolded even though it is non-monotypic. Would you like me to delete all the redirects from genera to species I made? (A bit tricky at the moment with article deletion not working, but I can schedule it for when that problem is fixed.) User:Gdr 11:51, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC) ::The documentation for those redirect templates is at Wikipedia:Template messages - but it's a bit difficult to find if one doesn't know there is something like that at all. :::I looked at that page but didn't see any documentation, just a list of templates and their text. What are they for? ::::Actually I meant Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages - they are intended to somewhat categorize the redirects, so it is possible to see for what purpose that redirect was created. So for example if that redirect needs to be replaced with an article the article can mention the alternative meaning. However it seems those messages haven't found much use. User:Ahoerstemeier 12:36, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::I don't think it's necessary to delete them directly (they don't create much harm even if they are slightly misleading), a slight crosscheck might be enough. If you can create a list of those redirects the bot created (maybe a bit easier than to check the contributions list of GdrBot) I will put the check of them on my todo list. User:Ahoerstemeier 12:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::OK, will do. User:Gdr 12:30, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC) == Template:Did you know and Valerius Anshelm == Hi there, thanks for considering Valerius Anshelm to include on DYK, but: (1) I got the notice, but can't find it on DYK, and (2) the rephrased suggestion is utterly wrong. Anshelm did not write a world history, he wrote a history of Berne. I must admit that although it's a fine little article, it maye not be interesting enough for DYK unless one knows something about the history of central Europe (read: utterly dull for the general public). I can't come up with a truly catchy question. User:Lupo 20:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) :(1) The user page updates succeeded before the update of DYK itself, due to Wikipedia server problems. (2) The article claims he wrote a world history. Is it wrong? I updated DYK just in case. User:Gdr 20:39, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC) ::No, the article is right, but upon rereading it, I could see how anybody not knowing German might have arrived at that conclusion. ''Berner Chronik'' means "Chronicles of Berne". I have clarified the article a bit, and taken a shot at the question appearing on DYK. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether it's interesting enough or to replace it with something more intriguing. Sorry for all the fuss. User:Lupo 20:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) :::Whoa—I see now what "server problems" you were alluding to. My edit to Template:Did you know only now got through, upon the fourth try! User:Lupo == ISO template == In the old ''flag'' template discussion, you supported ISO codes. You may want to see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Flag_Template#ISO_template (User:SEWilco 06:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)) ==WP:DYK Garrison school== I responded to your remark about my DYK suggestion at Template_talk:Did_you_know#June_9. Sorry it could not make it but I really feel it needed a little more info to be factually correct. Regards, User:Irpen 19:52, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC) ==DYK== I updated the template...it had stayed the same a good two or three days. I don't mean to do the thing "you do," but I figured someone needed to. User:TheCustomOfLife 16:52, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC) :No, it's not "my thing" at all, I just seem to have updated it a lot recently. So go ahead, update it all you like! User:Gdr 17:09, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC) == Josef Ressel picture == What is wrong with putting picture into thumbnail? It (1) adds textual label to it and (2) for some who do not have images switched on it makes page layout better and the picture itself better identifiable. User:Pavel Vozenilek 20:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) :(1) When the picture is of the subject of a biographical article there's no need for a caption; (2) It would be better to report the page layout bug at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ than to try to make all images into thumbnails. User:Gdr 20:48, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC) == Re: Condescension == *I wasn't aware of an alternate spelling. *I thought it was simply misspelled. *Don't be condescending. *I am aware of the policy. Intimately. **--User:Neutrality^{User talk:Neutrality} 20:59, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC) I apologize if I seemed terse. Warmest regards --User:Neutrality^{User talk:Neutrality} 21:03, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC) == more DYK == I struck out the entry for grunion because the instructions seem to say that's what should be done after a DYK notice was put onto the submitter's Talk page. Since this was my very first DYK, and I was disappointed that I hadn't received that notice, I went ahead and added it to my talk page myself. User:BlankVerse User talk:BlankVerse 07:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I had already been working on the Grunion article offline because I had recently added my second red-linked grunion WikiLink to an article. I hate adding red-links to articles, but I thought that Grunion were important enough to have the WikiLink, even if it was red. Luckily I had recently figured out how to put articles into my Watchlist even when they don't exist, so the new, but very tiny substub Grunion article started by the anon IP showed up on my watchlist. I hurriedly put together the stuff that I had been gathering because I knew about the 72 hr. limit, and I thought that it would be a shame not to have the grunion's mating habits not show up in the Did you know? column. Now that I understand why things happened they way that they did, it does make sense because in most cases the person who originates the article will probably also be the one that does the most work on in it in that first 72 hrs. I had figured, however, since I was the one who had nominated it, that I might also get a DYK notice. User:BlankVerse User talk:BlankVerse 09:40, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Bot == Your bot redirected Jack of Diamonds to Playing cards, this was incorrect (see [http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9043147&query=Jack%20of%20Diamonds&ct=]). please can you ensure your bot isnt making other mistakes like this. Thanks User:Bluemoose 12:44, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) Sorry, i meant it directed then rather than re-directed to the wrong place. User:Bluemoose 13:00, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) Look at [http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9043147&query=Jack%20of%20Diamonds&ct=], jack of diamonds refers to an artist group, not the card, which isn't even mentioned on Playing cards. Its no big mistake, but i just worry when i see bots making errors. thanks User:Bluemoose 13:04, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) The Jacques Gr�vin redirect is perfectly sensible, as no one is going to type the �, however, imagine you wanted to find out about the jack of diamonds, and searched for it, then were redirected to an article on playing cards, it would seem a bit odd, as the article doesnt even mention jack of diamonds. What should happen is it goes to the article i have now made, but with a note saying "the jack of diamonds is also a playing card". The reason i mentioned it in the first place is that i assumed you were going through Wikipedia:2004 Encyclopedia topics/13, in which case you should be checking the britannica articles, but clearly it was just a coincidence that you made that redirect. thnaks User:Bluemoose 13:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) ::OK i see you did the disambig. thanks User:Bluemoose 13:58, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Re: DYK == Thanks for letting me know! — User:Knowledge Seeker User talk:Knowledge Seeker 20:46, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) == RN Ships == Hello! I was gone yesterday, so I just got your note. Thanks for the tips, and the naming conventions policy. I had no idea the official policy, I was just extrapolating from other RN Ships pages. Mostly, all those red links just looked bad, but I guess I should just leave them alone if I have incomplete information, eh? --User:Scimitar 13:02, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Blue Ant== Thanks for fixing the taxobox - I must admit that entomology is entirely off piste for me and I had no idea what the relevant Wikiproject prescribes - I just copied the taxobox from hornet which has all the other sub- super- and infra- things. -- User:ALoan User_talk:ALoan 11:07, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Thanks for the signpost - well, I've also had a go at the (previously redlinked) ''Tiphiidae''. Comments welcome. -- User:ALoan User_talk:ALoan 11:49, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Japanese cruiser Oyodo == Thanks for your comments! Thanks too for redirection, was thinking of something similar but it was my 1st article in wikipedia, so am still learning the wiki-ropes~ =P As for the picture, thanks for the note, will be looking for a [permissible] replacement. Meantime will take down the current one. -- User:Stele 11:03, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Oyoda alongside Zuikaku == By the way, I took the liberty of correcting the description on this photo - it was Ozawa on Zuikaku, who then transferred to Oyodo. Kurita was commanding Centre Force on board Yamato. In the meantime, the title of this photo page was misspelt - Oyoda instead Oyodo... is there any way to correct it? =) -- User:Stele 13:45, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) :Yes, well spotted. There's no way to rename a picture, but you can upload it under a new name! User:Gdr 13:50, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC) ::Thanks for the info! That's quite a bit clunky... but oh well it's done! Ported over all the text from the old pic page =) -- User:Stele 14:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) == H Class Submarines == I hadn't missed the discussion, I just forgot about it. Things have been dealt with now. One thing that does need to be done with the letters we've completed is to go through them and weed the non-RN names out. I do find it somewhat irritating that Colledge has RAN, RNZN, RCN only etc ship names. It says it is the Royal Navy names, and those are not RN names. User:David Newton 19:40, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) == STOP!!! == Your bot is running amok! It has changed numerous renderings of Latin language to simply Latin, the opposite of its stated intent. There is obviously a bug, so please stop the bot and go back and fix all the articles it has ruined. Here's a small sample: # (diff) (hist) . . m Squire; 12:28 . . Gdrbot (Talk) (Robot-assisted disambiguation: Latin language) # (diff) (hist) . . m Pontifical; 12:22 . . Gdrbot (Talk) (Robot-assisted disambiguation: Latin language) # (diff) (hist) . . m Hesperus; 12:09 . . Gdrbot (Talk) (Robot-assisted disambiguation: Latin language) # (diff) (hist) . . m Count; 12:02 . . Gdrbot (Talk) (Robot-assisted disambiguation: Latin language) # (diff) (hist) . . m Classical language; 12:01 . . Gdrbot (Talk) (Robot-assisted disambiguation: Latin language) --User:Jpbrenna 21:53, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) :No, the bot was working as intended. Can you explain in more detail what the problem is? Which articles have been ruined? I checked the articles you listed above and they seem fine to me. User:Gdr 21:56, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC) ::I have already stated the problem clearly: Latin language is being changed to simply Latin. Stop this robot assisted vandalism at once! --User:Jpbrenna 22:02, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) :But you haven't explained ''why'' it's a problem. I don't understand yet. User:Gdr 22:05, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC) ::Go to the Talk:Latin page. There is still no community consensus (the vote is 11-6 and not closed) on whether the article should be moved to Latin language should be moved with a redirect to Latin (disambiguation), in the manner of Greek and Spanish. What will happen if (more likely ''when'') it does? You will have to change everything back. So why not wait? Who asked you to make these changes? Not I, and I do not like your changing articles that I have created or contributed to without notifying me. --User:Jpbrenna 22:57, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) :(1) The vote at Talk:Latin was from December 2004; I read it before making any changes and the situation looked settled to me. (2) If Latin is moved I will change the links back. Until then I don't yet understand what the problem is. (3) No one asked me to make these changes. That's not how Wikipedia works. Who would have the authority? (4) If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, do not submit it. See Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. User:Gdr 23:03, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC) == Pretzels and Graphics == Hi! Congrats on the Admin! I've seen you on a couple of Naval Battle Pages and I'm trying a big upgrade to the naval actions in the Russo-Japanese War. I was just looking at some of your work on ''JUTLAND'' so I thought I'd say Hi, great job! Where did the fleet battle maps come from for that project. The Japanese course at Tsushima looks like a pretzel on LSD, so this is something of a challange to replicate electronically. Fortunately, the Russians just sortof curved around in a big bend, so the matter shouldn't be too hard to resolve. Is something like that suitable for paintshop pro? Just happen to have two versions of that hanging around. Thanx [[User:Fabartus| User:fabartus || User_talk:fabartus]] 06:09, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC) :I drew the Jutland maps in OmniGraffle. User:Gdr 07:22, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC) == DYK == I just updated DYK as I saw it wasn't updated in over 2 days and you last visited almost a week ago. Any chance I could get access to the bot as well? Between the two of us updating should be a breeze. - User:MacGyverMagic|User talk:MacGyverMagic 08:03, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

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