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[[Image:Gamefaqs.jpg|thumb|right|310px|GameFAQs' main page in September, 2004]] GameFAQs is a popular website that has provided FAQs, walkthroughs, images, cheat code, saved game, reviews, and data for computer and video game free of charge to visitors since November 1995. It was started and is maintained by Jeff "CJayC" Veasey, and has one of the largest databases of video games available on the Internet. [http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/stats/] The site covers a wide range of systems, with many obscure video game console and titles. Registration with the site allows access to message boards (which has posted over 200 million messages in over 20 million topics by over 2.5 million users) and the ability to contribute game content. Since 2003, the site is a wholly owned subsidiary of CNET. ==GameFAQs history== GameFAQs was started on November 5 1995 by Jeff "CJayC" Veasey. At that time it was called the ''Video Game FAQs Archive'', and was hosted on America Online. It originally served as a clone/spin-off of a popular FTP FAQ Archive. By December 1996 [http://web.archive.org/web/19961223185936/http://www.gamefaqs.com/], the site was still young, both in appearance and lack of content demonstrated. The site contained less than 1000 FAQs and guides, combined over all systems. The site focused primarily on the seven popular systems of the time - arcade games, the PlayStation, the Sega Saturn, the Nintendo 64, the 3DO Interactive Multiplayer, the Sega Genesis, and the Super Nintendo Entertainment System - although other systems were also listed. The site was very basic to every degree of the word, and was not updated on a regular basis. By early 1997, GameFAQs had a new design. In fact, it had two different designs. One was customized for web browsers that supported tables [http://web.archive.org/web/19970218070909/www.gamefaqs.com/home.html], and the other was made specifically for browsers with no support of tables (or text-only) [http://web.archive.org/web/19970218070917/www.gamefaqs.com/thome.html]. Despite these changes, the color scheme consisted of only white, black and blue, and looked somewhat amateurish. The content, however, was beginning to grow. By April, the site had 1301 files and codes for over 800 games. New features were introduced by Veasey that would shape GameFAQs' future - such as user requests for information; a search engine; recognition for contributors; and more. By late 1997, GameFAQs had moved off of the AOL servers and was partnered with IGN (IGN). During this period of time, Jeff Veasey was working on GameFAQs more than ever before. It is assumed that this is when GameFAQs became his full-time job. Until this time, he had been working in either the radio field (unconfirmed report) or with computer/web programming (evidence taken from a later radio interview). GameFAQs had made it through two years and a new aspect of the site began; user contests. There were only two winners of the GameFAQs Second Birthday Contest out of 1000 entries, but it was a start. Throughout 1998 [http://web.archive.org/web/19980110160229/http://gamefaqs.com/], Veasey continued to work on the site and post new user-submitted FAQs and codes. In late 1998, the site received another design overhaul. Still operating as an affiliate of IGN, GameFAQs added links to other Snowball partners to its menu bar, and had a number of aesthetic changes applied to it. The actual content of the site hadn't changed much, but Veasey always kept the users informed about the latest events and news. There were frequent updates to the site, even if they weren't always contribution-related. This continued for some time. In early 1999 [http://web.archive.org/web/19990302070007/http://www.gamefaqs.com/index.html], GameFAQs had yet another new layout. The sidebar and tables on the homepage which showed the top games were added. The color scheme was also changed from blue and white to pink and red. GameFAQs was still under the flag of IGN. In November 1999 [http://web.archive.org/web/19991128113006/http://gamefaqs.com/index.html], several things happened very quickly. On the fifth, a Quick Search box was added to all pages, at which time the site was also celebrating its fourth birthday. On the seventh, the [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/ message boards] opened as Beta and a Poll of the Day would be implemented by the end of that week. Between December 1999 and late 2000, GameFAQs slowed down in terms of the addition of new features. The GameFAQs chat went Development stage on [http://web.archive.org/web/20000621102312/http://gamefaqs.com/ June 21, 1999], but did not last long due to administrative issues - it was simply too hard to control. The Internet Relay Chat server, however, definitely brought a rise in the site's activity, with more people visiting the domain at different times of the day. The GameFAQs chat was initially revolved around a minor number of administrator-owned channels, but eventually allowed users to create their own (such as #trivia) through a petitioning system. 2001 [http://web.archive.org/web/20010118211300/http://gamefaqs.com/] was the next year of major change for GameFAQs. Firstly, Veasey decided to dissociate the site with IGN. To continue generating revenue, a banner was placed on the top of each page that was sold to non-profit organizations. This changed by May 2001, when CNET became an official affiliate of GameFAQs. In this month, the chat feature was completely shut down due to the issues mentioned previously: while full details weren't revealed and no official precise reason was given, it is believed that this was due mainly to the chat's main administrator (who went by the nickname Wroth) continuous conflicts with other popular users such was Wise Old Gamer, Vegeth and Dettronen Spy. During the middle of 2001 came about strife and unrest between the popular Final Fantasy VII and Star Ocean: the Second Story gaming boards. At the time, the overall list of the most popular boards was determined by the amount of posts. Star Ocean: the Second Story (more commonly referred to as SO2) had multiple users posting hundreds of useless topics. Veasey interfered eventually and created what was the first Social Board on SO2 (which has since been removed). Final Fantasy VII soon had a board and other popular games had one installed as well. This also marked the start of board rankings being determined by individual server hits not posts. In September 2002, CNET's advertising policy changed, prompting more changes to GameFAQs. The ad was moved from the top of the page (horizontally) to a vertical position in the sidebar. This also led to the navigation of systems at the top of the screen. Changes were consequently made to the links on the side, namely minimizing them and creating subsections in "index" pages. In terms of contributions, GameFAQs continued to grow larger and larger, and Veasey - who was still the sole operator and administrator of the site - dedicated hours upon hours of his time to ensure that GameFAQs remained up-to-date, popular, and above all, successful. On April 1, 2002, CJayC changed GameFAQs to GameFAX (www.gamefax.com)[http://chris.insder.com/index.php?pg=92] as an April Fool's joke. The site's layout was changed to green and black to imitate those of the XBox. The intention was to make users believe that GameFAQs was now dedicated to only the XBox, since it is "the only system that matters." However, after clicking on any links on the main page, you were immediately directed to the real GameFAQs's page. Despite that, CJayC later reported [http://chris.insder.com/image/gfhoax.gif] getting "flames, threats, and the like" over the joke. On June 3 2003 [http://chris.insder.com/index.php?pg=224], Veasey announced to general GameFAQs users (moderators of the boards had previously been alerted) that its long-standing affiliate and sponsor, CNET, had acquired the site and all of its assets (minus user-submitted guides/FAQs, due to obvious legal issues). He assured worried users that GameFAQs would undergo [http://chris.insder.com/index.php?pg=224 no major change] in terms of administration, and that the 'GameFAQs the users saw today would be the one they saw tomorrow'. This was true to a certain extent, as the only visible change was a discreet CNET footer. Other minor changes included moving the servers to California (thus changing the board's time to GMT -8), as well as rolling all the server names into one (previously, it was s1/s2/s3; now it became simple cgi.gamefaqs). This made users happy because the old servers were starting to lag. In July 2003, Veasey completely overhauled GameFAQs' security in light of an alarming rise in account hackings and stealings. For log-in, he encrypted the cookies and un-checked the auto-login box. He also instituted "account lockdowns." If the private email or password was changed, an email would be sent to the last known private address (in case a hacker had taken over the account). The user could then suspend it (Level 2: User Suspended) and send an email to CJayC to to get it unsuspended. This process, however, was long and cumbersome, eventually leading to its discontinuation. However, some hacked users have recently become Level 2, which indicates that it is still possible to have your account set to Level 2 if you are hacked, likely by contacting CJayC or another admin. Security Settings were also implemented; users could lock out other login attempts from other ISPs for a set period of time. To top it off, he required everyone to read and acknowledge the changes (the next time anyone would log in, they would see the page). In April/May 2004, GameFAQs underwent its biggest visual and administrative change yet. At the demand of CNET (and to the disdain of many GameFAQs users), it partially merged its game boards with those of [http://www.gamespot.com GameSpot] and radically changed the graphics to those seen today. The site's web pages are now styled by Cascading Style Sheets instead of tables. GameFAQs also converted from Microsoft Active Server Pages to a PHP-powered system. However, its lack of XHTML compliance and less-than-easy CSS modification has angered both aspiring web designers (and those who want to create their own stylesheets) and average users. On December 1, a site-wide login button was introduced and a [http://chris.insder.com/index.php?pg=734 "Universal Account"] system was introduced, meaning that not only GameFAQs users would have to login using an email address (rather than a username), but could also use their usernames on MP3.com or GameSpot (both of which owned by CNET). In February/May 2005, GameFAQs took their message boards one step further towards the future of Message Boards by adding "Sticky Topics". Like phpBB boards, topics can be stickied by admins and possibly moderators. While CJayC already had this to himself for years, it was only then that he had made it so him, Sailor Bacon (another admin) and the two lead mods can sticky any topics they wish. As part of the code, topics that are stickied cannot be purged unless it has been removed and on some boards such as Message Board Help, failure to read the sticky would result in a moderation. Today, GameFAQs is fully owned by CNET. Jeff "CJayC" Veasey still maintains responsibility for working on the main site - e-mails, codes, FAQs, reviews, saves, game data, coding, and updating the homepage. CNET has hired Bethany Massimilla to administrate the GameFAQs message boards and lead the moderators. CNET has supplied newer (and a little faster) servers for the entire site. Although the changeover from being a one-person-administrator to being owned by a big company, as well as the transition from old to new servers and boards, was rough, GameFAQs appears to have settled into its new status. With the addition of long-time message board moderator Sailor Bacon to the administration team, GameFAQs has regained a level of stability after initial fears, criticisms and doubts. ==Message boards== GameFAQs is noteworthy for its active message boards community. Because of the high volume of posts it receives each day, old messages on the boards are purged daily, keeping the total number of posts to a reasonable level. Unfortunately, many of the boards, especially ones meant for discussion of important social issues, are often overrun with Internet trolls and people who like to "bait" the trolls. ===Jargon=== This is a short list of Internet slang used largely on GameFAQs. *313er - The term for those who frequent the UK regional board. *Autoflagged word - Words that have been abused but still have legitimate means. In that case, the word when posted is sent to the mod queue for revision. Autoflagged words are not allowed in topic titles. *B& / B7 - Another term used in the same way as Banninated. B& is pronounced "banned". B7 is used as a joke because 7 is the key which the character "&" appears on when shift is held. *Banninate - Term frequently posted when a user posts a message which contains a major ToS violation that normally leads to being banned from the website. The phrase is a play on of the word "burninate" which originated from Homestar Runner with the character "Trogdor the Burninator" *CEer - A term to describe a person who goes to CE regularly, sometimes called "CEmen". *Evil Republicans - A popular club on the War on Terrorism board, consisting of, with very few exceptions, extremely politically conservative users. Attempts to create competing liberal and libertarian clubs have ended in failure. *ITT (Ignore This Topic) - A term originating on the War on Terrorism board, as a response to topics perceived by users as Internet troll. Ironically, as any post in a topic moves it to the top of the board, posting "ITT" increases the likelihood of people reading it rather than ignoring it. *Karma - A number representing a user's status on the message boards. Each day that a user logs in and has at least one active post earns him/her one point of Karma, and Terms of Service violations can result in loss of Karma. Higher Karma unlocks additional board features and higher posting limits. Once a user reaches 75 Karma, he/she becomes a "Regular User" with no posting restrictions, but some boards are restricted to higher-level users. *KOS (Kill on Sight) - Although rare, this is the worst punishment one can receive on GameFAQS. It is given to those with past violations on multiple accounts. Any new accounts of those who have been KOSed are suspended on sight by moderators, without question. KOS orders peaked in the 2002-2003 period. *LUEicide - Term used for account suicide (intentionally violating as many rules as possible in order to be banned) by a LUEser. It was popularized on March 4 2003, when the infamous "Black LUEsday" occurred. LUEicide is an autoflagged word. *LUEsers - Describes people who go to and frequent LUE. It is pronounced "loser", which is most likely an intentional pun. *LUEshi - An ASCII art of Mario riding Yoshi. LUEshi quickly became one of the largest fads on GameFAQs, and posting it outside of designated ASCII topics was considered a serious TOS violation. It epitomized disobedience and defiance and punishments went from lenient to harsh. As of now, it is considered as regular ASCII and thus moderated only when disruptive (i.e. not in ASCII topics). *Meta Mod - A now obsolete feature which allowed users with 40+ Karma to rate the fairness of moderations. It was abandoned due in large part to some users rating all moderations, no matter how obviously justified, as unfair. *MIASU (Mark it and shut up) - Polite Message Board Help (MBH) users asked users to wait 24 hours after marking a message to complain. Less polite members bluntly told them to MIASU (Mark it and Shut Up). It grew in popularity, but is now moderated for trolling (inciting flames). *Mod Baiting - Purposely attracting a moderator's attention, either by posting an autoflagged word (which, despite popular belief, is not automatically marked) or posting a topic implying that one is underage (i.e. Topic: I am 12 / Message: hundred years old) *Notification - A minor moderation that results in the loss of three karma. *Purgatory - A term used for the temporary suspension of users whose Terms of Service violations are not quite severe enough to warrant banning. *Purge - The regular deleting of topics that have not been posted in for a time determined by the number of posts on a board. Also used to mean "purgatory" in some cases. *RIer - Name given to users who frequent Random Insanity. Can be pronounced either "Are-Eye-er" or "Ryer" *Usermap - A listing of the accounts which have been used to log into the site via a certain computer IP address, which supposedly records logins from up to 30 days before the current date. (Translation - it takes 30 days from the date of a login being recorded to the login being purged from the usermap.) Specific information about usermaps (such as the specific IP addresses and the accounts on a usermap) are restricted, and considered mod-only information. The information above is one of the only things that moderators are allowed to divulge to non-moderators, along with the warning that logging into the site from a public computer (ex. computer at school, computer at an internet cafe, etc.) means that you run the risk of losing your account if another user logs in on that computer and violates the TOS, resulting in a usermap axe. *Usermap Axe (or \"Axed\") - A severe administrative response to a problematic user wherein an account is banned, as are any account(s) of any user(s) whose IP has logged into the former account. *WoTer- A frequent visitor to the War on Terrorism board. Pronunciation rhymes with "water." ===Spinoff websites=== Due to the high popularity of GameFAQs' forums, many users have created their own forums based on the layout and general functioning of those of GameFAQs. They are commonly referred to as ''spinoffs''. Most contained additional features not present in GameFAQs' forums, some original and others culled from popular forum software. While many had a contribution system mimicking GameFAQs', they were generally seldom used. The first generation of spinoffs started in 2001, when Chuck "Neo" Sakoda (a.k.a. NeoGenesis) created the first spinoff, ''GameFAQs Hell''. His first attempts at cloning GameFAQs were with Active Server Pages and Microsoft Access, the same model used by GameFAQs at the time. He eventually rewrote his spinoff in PHP (paired with MySQL), releasing it under the GNU GNU General Public License. Jeff Veasey eventually helped promote Sakoda's efforts by placing a link to GameFAQs Hell in GameFAQs' help files. From the source code of GameFAQs Hell spawned several second-generation spinoffs such as [http://www.theoutboards.com The Outboards] and [http://tl.warpedbelief.com Twisted Legacy] that still exist to this day. After Sakoda closed down GameFAQs Hell, the spinoff world began to evolve in what is called the second-generation of spinoffs. Dark Cobra was the first to expand upon the source code of GameFAQs Hell and create a website using it, GameFAQs Refuge. After that too failed, The Outboards was formed on August 1 2002. Bugs carried over from the original code it was based on required the site to be taken down twice within its first month. However, after being reopened in late August, it has remained the longest lasting spinoff. Other spinoffs that opened at the time included whiteFyre (administrated by ultimategamer00 and intially named "GameFAQs βeta Clone") and Twisted Legacy. The next milestone in the history of GameFAQs spinoffs came when developers Jay and "Waffles" worked together on making a new spinoff free of the numerous bugs that plagued GameFAQs Hell. Although the outcome of their efforts initially appeared to be substantial, the rushed source, later leaked by "Counteray", was found to be filled with bloat, bugs, and other symptoms of rushed development. Jay continued working on his source code and joined with Zach "Outbreakorn" Getz to develop for his site. The resulting code eventually got an official release under the GPL, but fell victim to the common side effects of rushed development, with many quick hacks implemented to fix previous problems. Due to the ease of setting up and running MediArchive and other sources, the spinoff world evolved into the third-generation: Numerous clone sites. Many people with little or no PHP knowledge were establishing their own MediArchive-based spinoffs on free webhosts such as Lycos Europe. Spinoff coders such as Jay, Ant P, and others took to exploiting security holes in MediArchive code to bring down the sites. Those that survived did so by fixing security holes or writing their own original code instead of using already well-established code. This era is marked by spinoff such as gg's (girlgamer44), Junkieznat (Junkieznat), Farside Blues (Endless Nightmares), LUE2 (Tsi) and its spinoffs, and CABLE (Magican Type 0). The fourth generation is generally considered to be from January 2004 to the present day. Some spinoffs started up, but the popularity of spinoffs has substantially declined. They have a niche audience, but few new people have entered (while many veterans have left) the scene. Most notable spinoffs started in this era include Archetype 0 (Onion), Lost Facts (Roaddhogg), and FrozenOven (Shuzo). ==See also== *FAQ *Internet troll *GameSpot *CNET ==External links== ===Official sites=== *[http://www.gamefaqs.com/ GameFAQs] *[http://www.gamespot.com/ GameSpot (Affiliate to GameFAQs)] *[http://www.cnet.com/ CNET (Parent Company to GameFAQs)] *[http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/ GameFAQ boards] ===Unofficial sites=== *[http://chris.insder.com/ GameFAQs Archive] WARNING! This site contains offensive material. It is maintained by Insder and Roaddhogg. The GFA is a collection of saved humourous, interesting, and noteworthy topics and messages posted originally on the GameFAQs message boards themselves throughout their illustrious history from 1999 to 2005. On February 10, they opened up "[http://lf.insder.com/boards/index.php Lost Facts]", the latest spinoff. *[http://gfb.zeikfried.com/ GFBrowser] A tool made by Deus Ex Raijin to make viewing GameFAQs a better experience. *[http://www.gamefaqschat.com/ GameFAQs Chat] GameFAQs Internet Relay Chat Network *[http://www.gamefaqsexploits.com/ GameFAQs Exploits] A site dedicated to the glitches and exploits in the GameFAQs code. *[http://www.gamefaqsinfo.net/ GameFAQs Info] Info on the site, boards, fads. Contains pictures, ASCII, topics and more. *[http://xgamer.insder.com/ GameFAQs Petition Project] Created by XtremeGamer99, this site is to help petition creators at [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=7 Site Suggestions] to better maintain their petitions. With over 100 petitions in just under three months, this site is a definite big hit in Site Suggestions. *[http://www.knightmare6.com/index2.html GameFAQs Photo Album] *[http://gftoolbar.nm.ru/ GameFAQs Toolbar Firefox Extension] *[http://www.geocities.com/gamefaqsusers/links.html GameFAQs Users Site] Made by moderator Crono LV99, this is similar to the photo albums. The site is dead at this stage. *[http://archive.mbhshield.com/ GameFAQs Users Site II] A remade version of Crono LV99's GameFAQs Users Site] *[http://ksot.com/BoardsFAQ.html Kirby Still On Top's Secondary Boards FAQ] - KSOT's Secondary Boards FAQ is recognized by many users as a comprehensive guide to the features and works of the GameFAQs message boards, answering questions and giving factual information that cannot be already found in the Help Files. In January 2005, KSOT turned over the site to TrueDFX, who now maintains it. *[http://www.sc2k5.com/ SC2k5] - A site devoted to covering the GameFAQs contests *[http://www.lueonline.com/ LUE Online], a spinoff browser based MMORPG *[http://www.luearchive.com/ LUE Archive], an old but highly interesting collection of infamous and memorable moments on GameFAQs, some not found anywhere else. *[http://lue2.info/ LUE2], a spin-off with the original LUE2 user database, owned by iGenesis. *[http://www.mbhshield.com/ MBH Social] Social boards for MBH regulars. *[http://www.theevilrepublicans.com/ The Evil Republicans], website for the aforementioned Evil Republicans *[http://www.luelinks.net/ LUELinks], a spin-off site by LlamaGuy, cataloging links ranging from porn to games and more. A frequent joke on GameFAQs is to inform users asking about LUELinks that it doesn't exist. To become a member, you must both be a LUEser and have an active account on the Life, the Universe, and Everything board on GameFAQs. *[http://www.theoutboards.com/ The Outboards], spinoff run by obo. It is one of the oldest GameFAQs spinoff still around. *[http://getoverit.bounceme.net/get_over_it/index.php/ Three Kingdoms Social), a message board created to honor the Three Kingdoms Social in it's prime. (***OFFENSIVE***) ===GameFAQs board histories=== *[http://www.freewebs.com/headdopus/Welcome.html Another Place] is an un-official fansite. *[http://www.anzlinks.tk ANZLinks] Various media files from the ANZ board. Includes a link to ANZChat, a IRC chat service featuring the veteran ANZers *[http://FireFusion.org/lue History of LUE] - A site that has an accurate recollection of what has happened on LUE from the beginning to the ExcLUEsion. *[http://idea.yoll.net/other/rihistory/index.html First Person Accounts of RI History]. A bit like the History of LUE, but this focuses on what happened in the early days of Random Insanity, including the Gamequeen incident. *[http://www.freewebs.com/toven/index2.htm Toaster Oven's History] *[http://www.redmonkey7.com/usl USL's History]. Internet forums Computer and video game websites

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"''GameSpot (Sister Site to GameFAQs)''" Really? I didn't know that - I always thought they just paid GameFAQs to put text links. - User:Bulbaboy 23:19, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC) C|Net owns both of them. ---- I think that the LUE History section needs to be expanded to include previous events/its creation/whatever, as it is somewhat strange to have whole section about one event. I would have added this info myself, but since I didn't actually go to LUE before it was closed, I don't know anything about it. - Gallavant from GameFAQs forums, 9th Feb, 2004 If you checked the history of this page, you would see that this article was nothing'' but an entry for the History of LUE. Otacon2009 Well, I'm glad someone did that. :) - Gallavant ---- == Vandalism == This page has come under heavy repeated vandalism. It is currently protected. ---- :Sorry about that... I'm from GameFAQs, too, LUE in particular, and it's just scary what these people can do sometimes. I saw the link to this page posted there and thought there would be damage... User:F. Delpierre :For anyone who has access to LUE (you know if you can) [http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=402&topic=13029926 this is the topic] that links here. I don't think it was malicious in intent but the edit this page button was just too tempting for some. User:BesigedB Yes, obviously it wasn't malicious, but as you say, it's much too tempting for a certain class of morons on LUE. User:F. Delpierre :Same here, Delpierre... not surprised that vandalism is occuring =\. User:Ugen64 21:25, Mar 9, 2004 (UTC) I just fixed a bit of vandalism. Is it just me, or do most vandals have IPs for names instead of usernames? --User:Evice 03:12, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC) LUE is a powerful force. The LUEsers come in great numbers and leave a trail of destruction. Try not to get on their bad side, especially if you run a web site with forums or a guestbook. ~Just another LUEser ---- ==Minor problem== As the article is currently protected from editing, I must point out that there's a typo in the first paragraph under "LUE History". It should read "occurrence", not "occurence". Please fix it when you get the chance. User:Chris Roy 03:01, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC) ==Work required== Links to ToS violation and lots of other jargon-busters (some still to be written). At the moment parts of this page would be unintelligible to anyone new to the culture of sites such as this one. User:Andrewa 20:13, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC) Please remove the neo nazi reference, cjayc is actually a nice guy == Understandable by Newbies? == One thing I've noticed about most Wikipedia articles as they are understandable by those not normally familiar with the subject matter- however, this contains much slang and references that even I, a veteran of net boards, do not understand. Perhaps it could be made a bit more accessible? ==Another one== [http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=402&topic=13249453]: I am afraid that this will cause another invasion from LUE... :-\ User:Ugen64 22:34, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC) == Wikification == A large bit of the LUE history needs to be wikified, and a lot of the slang and POV has to be edited. What's wikification and POV? Wikification is needed when a large amount of text has been copied from another source (presumably with permission) but needs to be edited (wikified) to follow style rules (links, proper headings, and other conventions). POV = point of view --User:204.210.27.239 == Quotes? == By the by, is the quotes section really needed? It seems to be just a collection of funny things, and not very encyclopedia-like. --User:204.210.27.239 I think it would be better to move the quotes to a seperate article if they are to be kept at all. They clutter this page up to much. User:RadioYeti ---- ==This article isn't very wiki-ish at all== Hmm ... does this article seem too much like the rest of the wiki? Say World Wide Web? I think we need to clean up the article, wikify it, and remove the "Credits" section (although it was mostly written by etaonish and 24.*, eventually, it'll get edited beyond comprehension — page history is here for a reason!) Just my 1.4142 cents. [ User:Alerante 20:25, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC) ] ==Meh== Wikification is fine...but credits is actually important I feel. not too many will invest effort to edit it. Quotes is essential....it defines what GameFAQs is like. --User:Etaonish 23:36, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC) EDIT: ok, ok fine Does this page really need an extensive history of posters to, and threads on, the GameFAQs boards? Honestly, deleting everything from ==LUE History== onwards would only improve the article from my perspective. -User:Gtrmp 23:44, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC) YES! GameFAQs is described early on and if you're simply looking for general info stop there. IMHO, GameFAQs has a very unique history that ought to be included. Are you a LUEser? If so, you'd understand.--User:Etaonish 01:16, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC) Perhaps it would be better to move the LUE/gamefaqs history to a seperate article like History of GameFAQs boards and the quotes to something like Quotes from GameFAQs boards or perhaps to Wikiquote ([http://quote.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameFAQs q:GameFAQs]) -User:Shoecream :I agree with Shoecream - the LUE history stuff is easily big enough to be put in a seperate article. And it would solve the problem with the enormous size of the article - how the heck did it get to 86 KB without anyone reducing the size? - User:Bulbaboy 04:23, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC) ::Is this a go-ahead to move? Shall we do it right now? User:Shoecream 04:24, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC) :::Moved Quotes as well.--User:Etaonish 14:29, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC) This page is nonencyclopedic and should be deleted. :If you think a page should be deleted, use the proper channels: list it at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion. -User:Gtrmp 00:26, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC) == Karma == What is it? There doesn't seem to be much explanation... --User:Erik Garrison 06:20, 28 May 2004 (UTC) Done. --User:Etaonish 13:09, May 28, 2004 (UTC) ---- Page protected after yet another massive vandalism attack. User:MirvUser talk:Mirv 08:30, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC) == Expand the section on RI! == The section on Random Insanity really needs to be expanded. There is nothing on Wayneold's Rants, Sonic Boom's Royal Rankings or the infamous "lolli" fad topic created Salamander from HECK. These were all very important parts of RI's history, and should all be noted here. :There is a separate article on the history of GameFAQs boards. -User:Gtrmp 02:46, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC) ::There isn't, but all the same this article is supposed to be only major official events. --Etaonish">User:Etaonish 14:35, Jun 29, 2004 (UTC) :::There was. Fortunately, it's gone now. -User:Gtrmp 16:34, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC) :::: Well, good thing it's gone, it was summer 1999 for crying out loud,... I mean... what was a kid in heat had to do? == Add a P/C section == The P/C (Paranormal and Conspiracy) board has long been one of my most favorite boards on Gamefaqs and I would really like to see its history in print. I don't have enough information personally to write this: I'm primarily a LUEser now. If you can get in contact with a PC vet, he can write and I'd edit it. Pssh. It's a haven for trolls. Rarely does it have a real topic about the paranormal or conspiracies. I don't see it as worthy for its own section. --User:Evice 03:16, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC) ==C'mon, Turkeys== Can't you accept the perfectly NPOV position that you're claiming not to have been hacked? We're not saying you're liars, we're just saying that you said it! ~ User:FriedMilk 05:43, 2004 Sep 1 (UTC) == Christopher McDonald/Kao Megura == In announcing Chris' death, CJayC said that "without him, there probably wouldn't be a GameFAQs" (I'm paraphrasing). Surely there is some way to fit him in this article? --User:Feitclub 20:08, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC) Wonderful idea. I'll get to it. --Etaonish">User:Etaonish 00:47, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC) :I found the full text of CJayC's update: ::''5/19/04 12:30PM Truly A Legend. ::''It's with a very heavy heart that I must tell you that Chris MacDonald, known to most of you as Kao Megura, passed away earlier this week well before his time.'' ::''Chris wasn't just a contributor to GameFAQs, he was the contributor. Still one of the most prolific and well-respected contributors to this site, he created probably the most well-known and well-read (and not to mention well-written) FAQs on the whole of the Internet back in 1997 for Final Fantasy VII. That guide alone is still used and credited today as the inspiration for countless authors to follow. From my own correspondence with him, I can also tell you that he was a great guy to get to know.'' ::''Not merely GameFAQs, not just the Internet, but the world as a whole has lost someone special, and he will be truly missed. I truly believe that GameFAQs as we know it today would not have existed without him.'' ::''Friends, acquaintances, and even those who were just inspired or helped without ever even knowing him personally who wish to send comments and rememberances may send them to kao@gamefaqs.com. This mail will go to his family, not to me, so please use it appropriately. Charitable donations can be made to UNICEF.'' - User:Vague Rant 07:27, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC) :So...what do we do with this? Include it in the article? Make an article on Chris and link to it? --User:Feitclub 18:09, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC) == Spinoffs == Just did some major editing on the Spinoff Boards section, so there's a chance I might've messed something up. Looks OK to me, but if I've screwed up somewhere like deleted a whole section of it let me know, thanks. - User:Ant P 01:04, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC) (P.S. I really think it needs a new page, there's tons of info out there that could end up in it) Maybe we should add some stuff to cover major events. For instance, the Joako incident. That could be interesting and give us something to write about. - User:Lancelott :Please elaborate for non GameFAQ people as to what that is... User:Krupo 02:28, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC) :Basically what happened was a bunch of GF users had several websites including spinoff boards, all with the same hosting company on the same servers. One of them found out about this and started messing around, found out the servers were completely unsecured, and stole the source code and entire database for one of the spinoffs. there have been cases before where unsecure code in the boards on some sites led to their database and stuff being taken (whitefyre) but this time the hosting service was at fault. It caused at least 2 of the sites to dump the host and move elsewhere. User:Ant P 21:37, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC) I think the spinoff lists would be better as one nested list so it's more clear which ones are based off what. Right now everything's either GFH or Not GFH, but it'd make more sense to show e.g. that Outboards is based on Mediarchive code. Anyone agree? User:Ant P 18:48, 2004 Nov 29 (UTC) == Vandalism == I just reverted this page. The entire page was deleted by 203.12.164.5, and made to simply read "anal jizz loole." :Yeah, this page is a steady target of juvenile vandalism by GameFAQs members. Speaks volumes about their maturity level. User:Rhobite 14:30, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC) ::Actually, it's not always GameFAQs members. I know a dozen SA members that regularly vandalize this for some reason. Why, I don't know. --Etaonish">User:Etaonish 18:21, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC) :I just checked the IP to see if some known GF user was responsible for it. It's a proxy server in australia. User:Ant P 22:00, 2004 Nov 12 (UTC) ::I wouldn't be surprised if a LUEser was responsible for it. --User:Ixfd64 05:35, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC) == Next-Gen Gaming == Should Next-Gen Gaming be mentioned under the boards? Granted, it's not one of the most popular boards, but GameFAQs is a gaming-related site, and NGG is its closest thing to a "general gaming" board. == How recent is recent? == I removed that "recent" line on the bit about Conan O Brian since it is becomming old. Otacon2009 == Survivor == Read through the entry. Not even a mention of the survivor board. I'll put in a word, see if I can't at least get a small write up from some of the others on there. == Someone can't count... == "Review Contributors is the board for all the review writers to talk about common interests. This board has been split to better categorize the discussions on it. It is now composed out of three boards: General, Help and Critiques, and Social." : I don't see what the problem is. The three boards are [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=2000097 here], [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=2000098 here] and [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=2000099 here]. Unless there's a fourth board which nobody else here knows about, in which case feel free to point it out. User:80.65.242.104 00:24, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC) == Minor Change == The Flux Network's link is essentially dead, as ns1987 (or the patrons) got tired of that source. The correct link is www.thefluxnet.com, and the boards have reverted back to anotherFyre. The site is run by Mike "EpsilonX" Lasater. == Seperate article for the Gamefaqs boards. Yay or Nay? == I think what I did was good as the article was getting past the limit. Should I vfd the seperate article so it can remerge or was that a good idea?--User:203.29.151.3 04:46, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC) :I say go for it. --User:Golbez 05:35, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC) :Indeed. Andre">User:Andrevan (User_talk:Andrevan) 16:36, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC) :I concur. However, the article for LUElinks is locked if I remember correctly. User:Typhlosion 18:18, 22 May 2005 (UTC) == Special Ops biased against IE? == Funny. When a site uses W3C standards ''correctly'', they're biased against IE. Shouldn't someone with more editorial savvy (and less love for the Microsoft) fix that? :Done. User:Yuubinbako 22:07, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC) ::rv'ing. Don't add false information (the "crashing" comment) unless you have facts to back it up. User:Ant P 23:15, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC) :::You're very dirty I see. You removed the code to crash Internet Explorer from your site. User:Yuubinbako 09:44, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC) I suggest changing the referernce of Jeff Veasley as a "Neo-Nazi" its funny yes, but why LUE/LUE2/LUElinks refers him to him as one is beyond me. Jeff never sold-out he took what he made from the ground up and cashed in on it end of story == Error. == Someone change that "GameFAQs spinoff/clone wars" heading back the way it was (GameFAQs spinoff/clone boards). Whatever it was changed for doesn't make any sense. == Updating the spinoff wars == I added most of the spinoff wars (LUE2, JunkieZnat, and Darkside Legion) but a lot of it is incomplete and probably not correct. I don't know much about the DSL situation (espeically the conflicts) or what really happened with Tsi's LUE2 (who pulled it?). The JZN thing is correct - I was there for all its ups and downs. == "It was started and is maintained by Neo-Nazi Jeff "CJayC" Veasey." == So...after locking the page against vandalism, why is that part still as it is? --User:Evice 22:22, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC) :Fixed. Andre">User:Andrevan (User_talk:Andrevan) 03:18, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC) == Added a new spinoff board. == Added LUEFAQs to the original source section. == Concerning cleanup == Do we really need this much text about every spinoff board? And their feuds? Perhaps the feuds and stuff could be moved to a seperate page, say, GameFAQs message boards spinoffs. And, uh, does anyone have any idea who added the cleanup notice? Maybe the person who added it could specify what exactly is lacking in this article. It would be nice if we could get this up to featured article status. =D On a side note, someone needs to take a new screenie of the main page. This one is saved as JPG for some reason and it would be better to use a PNG file. --User:Shoecream 05:44, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC) : Sections ''GameFAQs spinoff/clone boards'' and ''GameFAQs spinoff/clone feuds'' could be deleted. They have little value. Vanity. User:Philip Nilsson 10:35, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC) : Since these sections have been completely deleted from Wikipedia now, I'll go put them up on my site instead. Perhaps there people will have a bit more respect for the site's subculture and history. User:Ant P 20:55, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC) : And I supppose NGG (NGG?!?!) and LUE are more important? Please. Whoever put those up seriously needs to rethink the importance and impact on GameFAQs. :: They have an impact on the FORUMS, maybe. But to the site as a whole? Probably not. Most users of GameFAQs don't go anywhere near the forums, myself included. Just because it involved the forums doesn't mean it belongs in the GameFAQs article. Perhaps a GameFAQs boards article is in order? User:Mo0[User Talk:Mo0] 00:53, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC) == Major spnioff updating == I gave the spinoffs bit a real history, although not by any means complete nor completely accurate. Cna someone fix it up and confirm its accuracy? Thanks - hbdragon88 == Yeah, here's the deal... == The grammar and spelling are still at a low. I'll do what I can but I know I am not knowledgable enough to make all these corrections assuredly, but someone with skills in English should take up the bane. == Remerged boards page == I remerged the message boards page into this page, because there's no reason to have two pages and the article is still just under 32kb. Andre">User:Andrevan (User_talk:Andrevan) 05:09, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC) :Maybe you should've ''discussed'' this change before unilaterally moving it. A consensus was reached a while ago to keep these as seperate pages. ::Looks like the only consensus was someone saying "maybe a GameFAQs boards page is in order." This isn't really a consensus. Andre">User:Andrevan (User_talk:Andrevan) 16:28, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC) :::It is a lot more organized on a seperate page. Although I was against it initially, I see how much better the article is with a seperate link. Re-merge please... User:Hbdragon88 05:19, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC) The reason why the boards had a seperate page was because it was aproaching the limit and because the Something Awful Forums is a seperate article from it's Something Awful, I thought that the GF community is active and divided enough to warrant a seperate article. Sure, not much will grow but it's abit like the spinoff descriptions but more useful as it's describing what the various communities have been since their foundation in late 1999 up until now as well as in the future. Having it in the main article will do what the spinoff link section did: Be the spot where the mouse wheel clicks and the mouse being held towards the bottom of the screen. If it was just a single line linking to it, it'll leave the reader with the option of seeing the board's histories insteaad of "Oh oh, big space of the boards I've seen for the thousandth time. I'll hold it untill I pass that." I know this as I do it and I bet some other people feel the same way. Re-inserting the board on a different page would remove the waffling on the main article and thus, making the article a higher standard. Also in future, can you at least ''notify'' us prior so we ''can'' reach a consensus? Even if the article was in need of a cleanup, it still doesn't mean come in and bulldoze it and ask questions later.While I too should of asked before the creation of the board article, what I did get from it was a invisible agreement when I did notify this talk page. If you notified us before the merge we ''could of'' reached a proper and visible consensus- --User:203.29.151.4 14:19, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Anyone can merge or unmerge a page. You don't need a consensus to do it. Andre">User:Andrevan (User_talk:Andrevan) 00:12, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC) == Factionism == While I'm slightly flattered by my mention as a board "loyalist" in recent edits, I don't think this is the place to promote factionism. Many loaded words were used to present a skewed view of events on MBH, and thus the site in general. I'd like to remind that particular editor that this is a place for facts, not opinions. Please keep editorials off the wiki. Addendum: In addition, the "ridicule" that new users asking obvious questions recieve is usually a) not by MBH regulars or b) deserved, as known users make joke accounts for joke questions. Again, I ask that the wiki be kept as unbiased as possible. -The23rdMagus == Seperating the message boards? == I think it's time to sepearte the message boards list from the main GameFAQs article User:Hbdragon88 05:22, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC) I concur. User:TheWanderer 00:01, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC) == Rawr!!! == KOS user? I don't know what this is referring to...Kill on Sight?--User:Frosteey 02:39, May 4, 2005 (UTC) == LUELinks == LUELinks is a completely separate site from GameFAQs. It should not redirect. They are two different sites run by two different people. :Perhaps if someone could write an actual article about the site instead of "doesn't exist lolol", you could make a better case for its inclusion. However, the community has decided that Luelinks isn't sufficiently notable for an encyclopedia article. The decision is available at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Luelinks 2. User:Rhobite 20:37, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC) :I read said page, and a comment is that maybe if the LUELinkers were actually noted or represented, they wouldn't troll so much. A lot of it, I feel, is out of a feeling that they're being neglected or shafted. Dude, have you been around? LLers (or someone, at least) keeps adding LUELinks to the spinoffs section, linking to the stupid .tk website and saying that it doesn't exist. Hunt back in the GameFAQs WIki history; you'll see it there. LL isn't taking it very seriously. User:Hbdragon88 22:05, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) :GameFAQs is well-represented by articles here (too much, IMO) yet they still seem to add nonsense to this article all the time. I don't think it's correct to say that LUELinks people would stop trolling if only they had an article. User:Rhobite 22:17, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC) == Small gripe == In the "Special Social Boards" section: "''Also noteworthy, the Zelda Social Board (also called ZSB), an enemy of LUE, is part of the Special Social Boards."'' It's a bit redundant (as that board is alread mentioned), and a little inflammatory as well. Should it be deleted or rewritten?

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