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{| align=right | |- | |- | [[Image:French Navy1.jpg|thumb|200px|Frigate division of the French Navy in Toulon harbour]] |} The French Navy (''Marine Nationale'') is the naval arm of the French military and is the second-largest Western European navy (the largest being the United Kingdom's Royal Navy). It operates a full range of vessels, from patrol boats to guided missile frigates, one aircraft carrier (at present) and strategic missile submarines (SSBNs). Normally a two carrier force, the current Navy aircraft carrier is named ''Charles de Gaulle''. The Navy also comprises Naval fusiliers (ground forces, used to secure naval installations) and Naval commandos (France) (amphibious assault and other special operations), collectively known as FUSCO. ==History== [Yet to be written] The French navy is affectionously known as ''La Royale'' (the "Royal"), for its supposed attachement to the monarchy; it is to be noted that some of the greatest heroes of the First Republic were in the French Navy (Luc-Julien-Joseph Casabianca, the French ship Redoutable (74)). The motto of the French navy is "''Honneur, Patrie, Valeur, Discipline''" ("Honour, Country, Valour, Discipline"). === Present developments=== The French Navy is undertaking a significant reinforcement, both in modernising and in number, under the ''Projet de loi de programmation militaire 2003-2008'' ("Military programme law project 2003-2008")[http://www.defense.gouv.fr/sites/defense/enjeux_defense/politique_de_defense/programmation_2003-2008/projet_de_loi_de_programmation_militaire_2003-2008/] , which notably calls for * A Future French aircraft carrier - probably conventionally propelled (the current ''FS Charles de Gaulle'' is nuclear), and built to a similar design as the British Royal Navy CVF programme. * 4 Horizon CNGF units; two are now under construction, the third one should be ordered in 2007 * 17 FREMM multipurpose frigates - 8 should be ordered between 2003 and 2008, the first commissioning being expected for 2008 * 6 nuclear attack submarines of the Barracuda class submarines class - 2 should be ordered between 2003 and 2008, the first commissioning being expected for 2012 The equipment will also be modernised, notably * New models of the successful Exocet missile * Aster and Sylver systems for anti-missile/anti-air defence * Cruise missiles (the naval or submarine Storm_Shadow) ==Current ships of the French Navy== ===Aircraft carriers=== * Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier * ''Planned:'' Future French aircraft carrier === Projection and Command vessels === *Mistral class landing platform dock class - 2 ships **FS_Mistral **FS_Tonnerre === Helicopter Carriers === * Jeanne d'Arc helicopter cruiser (normally used for training) (Note that most French_Navy#Landing_Platform_Dock_.28LPD.29 are capable of operating a wing of a dozen a heavy helicopters) ===Submarines=== ====SNLE (SSBN)==== * Redoutable class submarine class - 1 ships **S611 FS_Redoutable (decommissioned in 1991) **S612 FS_Terrible_(1969-1991) (decommissioned in 1996) **S610 FS_Foudroyant (decommissioned in 1998) **S613 FS_Indomptable (decommissioned in 2003) **S614 FS_Tonnant (decommissioned in 1991) **S615 FS_Inflexible * Le Triomphant class submarine - 3 ships **S616 FS_Triomphant **S617 FS_Temeraire **S618 FS_Vigilant **S619 FS_Terrible (to be commissioned in 2008) ====SNA (Nuclear attack submarines)==== * Rubis class submarine class - 6 ships **S601 FS_Rubis (ex-''Provence'') **S602 FS_Saphir (ex-''Bretagne'') **S603 FS_Casabianca (ex-''Bourgogne'') **S604 FS_Emeraude **S605 FS_Améthyste **S606 FS_Perle **S607 FS_Turquoise (canceled) **S608 FS_Diamant (canceled) === First rank Frigates (destroyers)=== The French Navy does not use the term "destroyer"; thus, some large ships of the first rank (like Horizon_CNGF) are designated "frigates", though they are registered as destroyers (with hull numbers "Dxxx"). * Horizon_CNGF class - 4 ships planned, 2 now under construction **D620 FS_Forbin **D621 FS_Chevalier Paul * FS Suffren class class - 2 ships ** D602 FS_Suffren (decomissioned in 2001) ** D603 FS_Duquesne * FS Cassard class class - 2 ships ** D614 FS_Cassard ** D615 FS_Jean_Bart * Tourville class frigate class (F67 type) - 3 ships ** D610 FS Tourville ** D611 FS_Duguay-Trouin (decommissioned in 1999) ** D612 FS De Grasse * Georges Leygues frigate class (F70 type) - 7 ships ** D640 FS_Georges Leygues ** D641 FS_Dupleix ** D642 FS_Montcalm ** D643 FS_Jean de Vienne ** D644 FS_Primauguet ** D645 FS_La Motte Picquet ** D646 FS_Latouche-Tréville === Second rank frigates === * La Fayette class frigate class - 5 ships **F710 FS_La_Fayette **F711 FS_Surcouf **F712 FS_Courbet **F713 FS_Aconit **F714 FS_Guepratte * Floreal class frigate class - 6 ships **F730 FS_Floréal **F731 FS_Prairial **F732 FS_Nivôse **F733 FS_Ventôse **F734 FS_Vendémiaire **F735 FS_Germinal ===Avisos=== *D'Estienne d'Orves class A69 class - 9 ship (plus 8 decommissioned ships) **F781 ''D'Estienne d'Orves'' (decomissioned in 1999) **F782 ''Amyot d'Inville''(decomissioned in 1999) **F783 ''Drogou''(decomissioned in 2000) **F784 ''Détroyat''(decomissioned in 1997) **F785 ''Jean Moulin''(decomissioned in 1999) **F786 ''Quartier-Maître Anquetil''(decomissioned in 2000) **F787 ''Commandant de Pimodan''(decomissioned in 2000) **F788 ''Second-Maître Le Bihan'' **F789 ''Lieutenant de vaisseau Le Hénaff'' **F790 ''Lieutenant de vaisseau Lavallée'' **F791 ''Commandant L'Herminier'' **F792 ''Premier-Maître L'Her'' **F793 ''Commandant Blaison'' **F794 ''Enseigne de vaisseau Jacoubet'' **F795 ''Commandant Ducuing'' **F796 ''Commandant Birot'' **F797 ''Commandant Bouan'' ===Patrol ships === *French patrol ship Albatros (only ship of her class) *L'Audacieuse class patrol vessel class - 10 ships **P682 ''L'Audacieuse'' **P683 ''La Boudeuse'' **P684 ''La Capricieuse'' **P685 ''La Fougueuse'' **P686 ''La Glorieuse'' **P687 ''La Gracieuse'' **P688 ''La Moqueuse'' **P689 ''La Railleuse'' **P690 ''La Rieuse'' **P691 ''La Tapageuse'' *French patrol ship Sterne (only ship of her class) *French patrol ship Grebe (''Espadon 50'' type; only ship of her class) *Flamant class patrol vessel class - 3 ships **P676 ''Flamant'' **P677 ''Cormoran'' **P678 ''Pluvier'' *Aramis class patrol vessel class - 2 ships **A712 ''Athos'' **A713 ''Aramis'' ===Mine Sweepers=== *Eridan class Minesweeper class - 13 ships ** M641 ''Eridan'' ** M642 ''Cassiopée'' ** M643 ''Andromède'' ** M644 ''Pégase'' ** M645 ''Orion'' ** M646 ''Croix du sud '' ** M647 ''L'Aigle'' ** M648 ''Lyre'' ** M649 ''Persée'' ** M650 ''Sagittaire'' ** M651 ''Verseau'' (ex M920 ''Iris'') ** M652 ''Céphée'' (ex M919 ''Fushia'') ** M653 ''Capricorne'' (ex M918 ''Dianthus'') *Acheron class Minesweeper class - 3 ships ===Landing Platform Dock (LPD)=== *Foudre class landing platform dock class - 2 ships **''FS_Foudre'' **''FS_Siroco'' *Ouragan class landing platform dock class - 2 ships **''FS_Ouragan'' **''FS_Storm'' === Light transport ships === *Champlain class landing platform dock class - 5 ships **''FS_Champlain'' **''FS_Francis Garnier'' **''FS_Dumont D'Urville'' **''FS_Jacques Cartier'' **''FS_La Grandière'' === Landing crafts === *Sabre class landing platform dock class - 4 ships **''FS_Sabre'' **''FS_Dague'' **''FS_Rapière'' **''FS_Hallebarde'' *''Chalands de transport de matériel (CTM)'' - 16 ships ===High Sea Tugs=== *Abeille Flandre class tug class - 6 ships *Esterel class tug class - 2 ships *Malabar class tug class - 3 ships *Actif class tug class - 1 ship remaining in service as of 2004 ===Trial and experimentation ships=== *FS_Monge *FS Denti *FS Thétis *FS_Poseidon *FS_Bougainville === Hydrography and Oceanography=== *FS Beautemps-Beaupré *FS Laperouse class class - 3 ships **FS Laperouse class **FS Laplace **FS Borda ===Support ships=== *FS Jules Verne - mobile mechanics *FS Loire *Durance class ships class command and support - 4 ships **A629 ''Durance'' (sold to Argentina in 1999) **A607 ''Meuse'' **A608 ''Var'' **A630 ''Marne'' **A631 ''Somme'' ===School ships=== *Jeanne d'Arc helicopter cruiser *FS Belle Poule (sail ship) *FS Etoile (sail ship) *FS Mutin (sail ship) *FS La Grande Hermine (sail ship) * Leopard class training ship class - 8 ships *FS D'Entrecasteaux * Glycine class training ship class - 8 ships ==See also== * List of Naval Ministers of France * :Category:French naval ships ==External links== * [http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine Official site] French Navy Navies

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The official Navy site provides information and photos free for Internet use. All ships or classes of ships should be documented. User:David.Monniaux 19:22, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC) : There is also http://www.netmarine.net wh0 have generously given their authorisation to use some of their photographs under the GFDL (User:Rama/FS_template). User:Rama 23:30, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC) == Naming conventions == === Prefix === The French Navy does not use prefixes for its ships (like the Royal Navy does, "HMS ''Kent''" for instance). However, since it makes it easier to understand the nationality of ships, I suggest we put the prefix FS ("French Ship"), which is already widely used informally internationally. :Personally, I'd like something less clunky than French ship Quelquechose, but if there isn't ''any'' French practice we can point to for justification... :User:Wwoods 08:23, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC) === Articles === Articles (''le'', ''la'', ''les'') are ''not'' part of the name of the ship. "French submarine ''Triomphant''", "''Triomphant'' type" (not "''Le Triomphant'' type"; yes, I know that lots of people write it like that, including the DCN itself (it probably gave up educating people), but it's not less wrong. What would you say of French people systematically saying "USS ''The Forrestal''" ?). Caution, in some cases, what smight look like an article can be a part of the part (''La Motte-Picquet''). Here, the ''La'' is not an article. In doubt, User_talk:Rama... ===Nobility particles=== In French, the nobility particle is "''de''" ("''duc de Guise''"), with a ''small'' "d". Now, nobility particles are not said when just refering to a person's name (without the first name or the title): "''Richelieu''", but "''Cardinal de Richelieu''". Caution, some names might have a "''De''" inside which in ''not''' a particle, but part of the name. Here the "D" is in ''capital''. Now, there are exceptions too: "De Gaulle" is not a particle (proof ? easy: "General de Gaulle"; "Charles de Gaulle"; "de Gaulle". Noone will ever say just "Gaulle" (cf "Richelieu")). For "de Gaulle", it is mainly the usage which has more or less enforced the "de" over the "De", which would be more correct (and also more republican...). Now, for some cases, the particle will show in the ship's name with a capital (''De Grasse'', ''D'Entrecasteaux''); in some other cases, the small caracter is tolerated in the middle of the name (''De Gaulle'', but ''Charles de Gaulle''). There again, if you want my idea about the subject, you can User_talk:Rama. === Dates === Now for something simple ! :) I sugest that we add the dates of commissioning and de-commissioning (or sinking, disapearing, whatever...) after the name of ships which are no longer in service in the French Navy, much like it's done for the Royal Navy already on Wikipedia. Thusly, ''FS Surcouf (1927-1942)'' refers to the Second World War submarine, and ''FS Surcouf'' refers to the ontemporary stealth frigate. I hope this helps avoid all the "''French Cruiser Jeanne d'Arc''", "''French_Richelieu_(1940)''", and other caoticlooking things I have seen in the past :) If someone has suggestions, remarks, or anything, User_talk:Rama ! Cheers and happy editing ! User:Rama 06:35, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC) : If French ships don't have US-style hull numbers, or RN-style pennant numbers, then dates will do, but is there any need for ''two'' dates? As long as there aren't multiple ships in service simultaneously, one--equivalent to a birth-year--ought to do. FS Surcouf should be the page, since that's what people will link to when they don't know the precise ID of the ship they mean. :By the way, I'm not familiar with the .. tags, but they make a mess in my browser. How about a Wiki-ized table:

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:User:Wwoods 08:23, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC) :Apparently the French Navy ''does'' have ship numbers, nowadays at least. E.g. ''Surcouf'' is F711, which makes it simple: Surcouf (F711) (F711). :User:Wwoods 10:57, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC) :: Yes, there are hull numbers (and they use the international categorisation; some "frigates" features "D"-Destroyer hull numbers, though the term "destroyer" is not used in the French Navy). :: For the dates, my idea is that the dates are more useful than the hull number; but it can indeed be an alternative for recent ships (not for pre-WWII, of course). User:Rama 11:18, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC) == Naming conventions == There are already naming conventions for ships. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships). If you think they are wrong, or you think French ships need to be named in a different way, please raise the issue and discuss on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ships). User:Gdr 11:30, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC) : I am not a big fan of the NATO prefix "FS" which isn't used in France (especially for ships which pre-date NATO), but on the other hand there are small issues with the policy of Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ships): :* Some navies have specific cathegories of ships; for instance, the French navy uses the word "frigate" for destroyer-size ships (whose hull number has a "D"). This might make the name of articles difficult to predict (for instance, someone looking for the destoyer ''Forbin'' might not find it in "List of naval French ships" because it is cathegorised as a frigate) :* with namings like "French frigate Surcouf" and "French submarine Surcouf", it is impossible to tell whether a ship is in commission or not anymore, which I think would plead in favour of puting a date (possibly the date of commissioning) in the title. : I will post these questions on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ships) as well (I though that "Wikiproject:Ship" was the right place to do so).User:Rama 12:59, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships was a fine place, but the naming conventions have their own page. User:Gdr 13:23, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC) == Avisos???? == Can some sone who has some level fluency in French beyond student say what this type of vessel is? It looks like it means "Corvette", but I don't really know. --User:Mtnerd 05:08, 10 May 2005 (UTC) : No, it is smaller than a corvette, yet bigger than a patrol ship. Typical role is green water anti-submarine warfare. Originally, it was small ships carrying orders to fleets (in the 1780s). I'll draft a specific page if it is too confusing for other users. User:Rama 05:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC) :: Good. Would Offshore Patrol Vessel be a better term? It's a term that needs explination.--User:Mtnerd 16:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC) ::: I craeted an aviso article, feel free to edit it the way you see fit. Since you might not be born with the concept, your way to explain it is probably better than mine, for whom "aviso" is a straightforward "ecological niche" of warships. User:Rama 18:10, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

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