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Death Metal

See also Death metal (note case). Someone should merge these. (Don't look at me.) --user:General Wesc

Death metal

Death metal is a type of heavy metal music with thrash metal influences which emerged in the United States (especially Florida death metal and California), Europe (especially United Kingdom and Sweden) and Canada in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Death metal has, like most subgenres of heavy metal, proven notoriously difficult to define. Some fans and musicians have a firm concept of the genre, its categories and subcategories. Others consider such categorisation limiting or useless. There is often crossover from one metal genre to another, and the influence of non-metal genres is not uncommon. Death metal is usually identified by extreme brutality, intensity and speed. "Blast beats" are frequently used to add to the intensity of the music. The vocals - death grunts, (guttural roars) or "growls", as they are often called, are rough and often incomprehensible (sometimes derisively called "Cookie Monster vocals" by those who dislike this vocal style). Similarly, those not familiar with the genre sometimes confuse it with "death rock", which is an entirely different musical classification altogether.

Death metal's subject matter usually deals with the darker side of society that most other musical styles avoid writing about although some bands such as Dying Fetus write mostly political lyrics. The focus on mortality along with the extreme nature of the music likely inspired the naming of this genre as "death" metal. Other bands still take their lyrical inspiration from horror movies, e.g., early Death (band), Cannibal Corpse, Mortician (band). Death metal is known for very abrupt tempo and count/time signature changes, and extremely fast and complex guitar and double bass drumwork. Most bands of this genre use downtuned and distorted guitars (usually utilising two), which play both rhythm guitar and lead guitar guitar parts, a downtuned, sometimes distorted bass guitar, a double bass drum set, and a vocalist who uses the death grunt vocal style. Some bands add incidental synthesizers or other instruments for effects. Of all the Metal genres Death metal is the most physically demanding of its musicians. == Early history (up to 1991) == Death_(band)">Image:Scream_Bloody_Gore.jpg|thumb|Cover of ''Scream Bloody Gore'' by Death (band) Death metal is clearly an outgrowth of Heavy metal music, but the full story is complex and interesting, and is the subject of some debate among fans and musicians. Although death grunt are usually the prime factor in identifying death metal, this by itself would also include albums such as ''Welcome to Hell'' from 1981 by British metal group Venom (band)—an important early Heavy Metal group—where the vocals may be mostly "growling", but the music is not what is generally meant by "death metal" today. Instead, many fans place the birth of death metal around 1985, due to U.S. bands such as Florida's Death (band) and California's Possessed (band). This music, although fitting the above description of "extreme brutality and speed" for its time, did not create anything significantly new compared to their immediate predecessors, and one would be hard pressed to identify strong and specific musical differences between, say Death's debut album from 1987 and same-period work by thrash metal bands such as the Brazilian Sepultura or even the aforementioned Venom, except perhaps slightly "growlier" vocals. Another important impact on the death metal scene was made by Slayer, by their releases of ''Show No Mercy'' and ''Hell Awaits'' in the year 1983 and 1985 respectively. Despite the lack of growled vocals, the song structures are closer to death metal than to thrash metal. In fact, most Slayer albums, especially 1986s ''Reign in Blood'', are still favourites of many death metal fans. To their credit, early "death metal" bands such as Death (band) did push the format forward, something that would ultimately pay off in a new form of music that was substantially different from their closest forefather, thrash metal. Other death metal historians maintain that the 1985 brand of "death metal" is more aptly summarised by the oft-used moniker "thrash metal" and that the band Death receives inflated credit partly because of its name. Under this paradigm, the modern concept of "death metal"—the point when it clearly decouples from the origins in heavy metal and thrash metal—can be set to 1989 or 1990, when the above-mentioned band Death and others had started to mature, and another crucial source of input had been merged into the brutal stew of riffing and growling. This input was hardcore punk. [[Image:Immolationdawnofpossession.jpg|thumb|Cover of ''Dawn of Possession'' by Immolation]] Just as in the original creation of NWOBHM (New Wave of British Heavy Metal) by Iron Maiden (band) and other bands was sparked by the youthful energy of punk rock in the late 1970s, so did cross-fertilisation between metal and punk once more create something new in the late 1980s. The chaotic and often confusing development that took place around this time is well illustrated by the band Napalm Death, often characterised as a "grindcore" band (see below). This band acknowledges heavy influence in its early days from early demos by the band Death (such as "Infernal Death") and Massacre (band), and was simultaneously always part of the hardcore punk scene. However, Napalm Death themselves changed drastically around or before 1990, leaving grindcore (and most of the band members) behind, and on 1990's ''Harmony Corruption'' they can be heard playing something one might call "death metal" by the above characterisation. In fact, the project band Terrorizer album, ''World Downfall'' (1989), is clear signs that some merging of hardcore punk and thrash metal is going on, with members from Florida's Morbid Angel and the new line-up of Napalm Death co-composing. Many similar works rapidly appeared hot on the heels of ''Harmony Corruption'': Britain's Bolt Thrower (band), Britain's Carcass (band), Sweden's Entombed (band), New York's Suffocation (band), and many others, and this development into a more well-executed, clearly distinct brand of metal was cemented when the band Death themselves followed the trend they had participated in starting, the technical album ''Human'' from 1991. Another fine example of this type of death metal is Morbid Angel's ''Blessed Are The Sick'' from 1991. At this point, all the above characteristics are clearly present: abrupt tempo and count changes, occasionally extremely fast drumwork, morbid lyrics and growling delivery. Whichever way one prefers to view the history of death metal, confusing the story is the ubiquitous mixing of terms, even among artists themselves; Bill Steer in the early line-up of Napalm Death once said: "Death metal died in 1990, and everyone in the '90s who claims they're playing death metal is lying or a loser." == Later developments (1990s onwards) == [[Image:InFlames_Colony.jpg|left|thumb|180px|''Colony'' by In Flames, a melodic death metal band.]] During the 1990s, death metal grew in many directions, spawning a rich variety of subgenres, including the following: * Melodic death metal, where harmonies and melodies are much more present in the guitarwork. Although more melodic, it can sound more raw than the more precise sounding American variety. This subgenre is mostly associated with Sweden, especially in Gothenburg, as well as Norway and Finland (see Scandinavian death metal). The genre finds its best representation in At the Gates, In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, Arch Enemy and Dismembered. The Iron-Maiden-esque techniques employed by these "Gothenburg" bands formed a riff-lexicon frequently used by many Hardcore bands that have risen in popularity since 2001. Because of this style's origin, these bands are (often mockingly) called Gothencore (See: metalcore). * Florida Death Metal, which includes some of the most notable bands. They are more rigid and percussive than the Swedish variant, more precise, refined and traditional compared to Deathgrind, yet more direct and brutal than the Technical variety. Bands include Deicide (band), Monstrosity (band), Obituary (band), Death (band) (some albums are technical as well). * Technical death metal or Progressive Death Metal, a narrow, but influential subgenre where musical complexity and skill is the main focus. It is represented by bands like Gorguts, Necrophagist, Spawn Of Possession, Cynic (band), Atheist (band), Theory in Practice (band), Cryptopsy, Nile (band), to some degree Morbid Angel, and eventually, Death (band). * Brutal Death Metal, or Deathgrind, developed by combining certain aspects of the song structures of grindcore with death metal. Brutal Death Metal is associated with bands like Pyaemia, Brodequin, and Deeds of Flesh. One of the most influential bands is of this genre is early Carcass. They have evolved so not all their albums fit this genre. Exhumed and Impaled are both influenced by Carcass. They feature gory medical lyrics. * New York Death Metal, which is percussive, explosive with influences from New York Hard Core. It features a lot of palm-muted riffs and guttural deep vocals. Bands included in this genre include Suffocation (band), Cannibal Corpse, and Pyrexia. There are other fine bands from New York but they do not exactly fit this description (Immolation, Incantation,etc.) * Doom death, which is a slowed down, melancholic subgenre, inspired by classic Doom metal. It was created by the likes of Disembowelment (band), My Dying Bride, Anathema (band), and Paradise Lost (band). * Slam Death Metal, characterised by frequent Hardcore-like breakdowns and ultra low grunting vocals. Devourment (band) is widely recognised with inventing this style, though it is often conflated (and rightly so, in some cases) with tough-guy metalcore. * Blackened death, which is death metal mixed with black metal stylistic influences, notable in the vocals and riffing style. Dissection (band) is a prime example of this genre, as is Emperor (band) on their ''IX AEquilibrium'' album. * Death Thrash (also called Deathrash), which is Thrash with elements of death metal including speed, guitar picking techniques and vocals. In the earliest incarnation this style was the progression from Thrash metal to death metal. Some bands are Benediction (band), Cancer (band), Konkhra and Criminal. Some Sepultura albums could also be classified this way. Grindcore is considered by some to be an even more extreme variant of death metal. However, many fans of grindcore and music historians would place it in a genre by itself, since the genre historically developed in parellel to death metal (both developed in the 1980s, death metal from thrash metal and grindcore from hardcore punk), each influencing the development of the other, but with early grindcore having a much more obvious hardcore punk and anarcho-punk influence. There are also other heavy metal subgenres that have come from fusions between death metal and other non-metal genres. Such as the fusion of death metal and Jazz played by Pestilence (band) on their ''Spheres'' album. ==Key artists== Entombed_(band)">image:EntombedClandestine.jpg|thumb|Cover of ''Clandestine'' by Entombed (band) The crucial death metal bands include Autopsy (band), Bolt Thrower (band), Cannibal Corpse, Carcass (band), Cryptopsy, Death (band), Deicide (band), Entombed (band), Morbid Angel, Nile (band), Obituary (band), Opeth, Possessed (band), Suffocation (band). ==See also== *List of Death Metal bands == External links == *[http://www.deathmetal.com DeathMetal.com] *[http://www.damnedinblack.com/database.php?w=styles&style=deathmetal Damned in Black] - Alphabetical list of Death Metal artists with biographies and albums. *[http://www.deathmetal.org Death Metal Institute] *[http://www.anus.com/metal/about/deathmetal.html Anus.com list of death metal bands and reviews] *http://www.metalcrypt.com Metal subgenres

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==Dammit== What is Lamb of God doing in here? Growling vocals and loud guitars does not a death metal band make -- User:Dysfunktion 01:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) OK, after seeing some of Spearhead's edits, I'm going to go ahead and reverse some of them. If anyone wants to talk to me about it, go ahead -- User:Dysfunktion 01:44, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) Yea, I've been trying to clean the list of bands there. Many of the bands listed were seemingly added by bands themselves for promotion or something as I have never heard of them at all or were not death metal. Also I removed Vader from the crucial band list as they have never added anything to death metal genre (except maybe triggered snare drums). User:Spearhead 19:25, 1 May 2005 (UTC) :Go to the Vader (band) page, you'll see why it's notable. And God, someone stop adding Lamb of God. They are NOT death metal. -- User:Dysfunktion 14:24, 1 May 2005 (UTC) :: exactly ''notable'' not crucial. User:Spearhead 19:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC) :Actually, I guess I see your point. But seriously, whoever keeps adding Lamb of God, STOP. 16:10, 1 May 2005 (UTC) ---- EISREGEN IS NO DEATH METAL ! ---- It would be really nice to include some sort of definitive information on the vocalization, or "growling," as this seems to be such a key feature to the music. It's exactly what it sounds like. Deep growling vocals instead of sung ones -- User:Dysfunktion 02:23, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC) I guess what I meant is definitive information on the different types of growling, as there seem to be several distinct styles involved... it's reminiscent of the various styles of Tuvan throat singing. ---- What the hell is a "doom/death" hybrid? I know, I know. If you have to ask... ---- This is a decent article, but the picture choices are terrible. Celtic Frost are if anything early black metal, and while Entombed did release one death metal album, "Clandestine" wasn't it. I'm going to add and remove some names on the band list, nothing controversial, just a bit of common sense. (A "doom/death hybrid" would presumably be music containing features of death metal and doom metal. Or is that too easy?) User:Prawn ---- is Syllogism really a band? cannot find it on Amazon, cannot find it on the net, no country, is it an example of self-promotion? also would take Coroner from the list - they are technical/jazzy thrash if anything, but sure not death - where are "low, growly vocals"? ---- How can you NOT call Clandestine a Death Metal album? I've always thought it superior to Left Hand Path. I thought the Celtic Frost picture was a bit odd, since the band wasn't mentioned. However, the influence of Celtic Frost and Hellhammer before that on Death Metal is undeniable. They were the first band to use death grunt vocals, and a lot of bands, like Obituary, borrowed heavily from their sound. True, they were one of the big influences on Black Metal too, but don't forget Death Metal. :To me, Clandestine was always a bit more hardcore punk and thrash than death metal. It doesn't even have blastbeats, does it? ::Since when are blast beats are requirement for death metal? Many DM bands don't use them or have never even used them. And yeah Clandestine definitely is death metal. Any Entombed albums after that are argueable User:Spearhead 19:27, 1 May 2005 (UTC) ---- How is death metal difficult to categorize? Fast and heavy music heavivly influenced by thrash metal with growl vocals? --User:Arm ---- :Because that also describes genres that aren't Death Metal (to various extents), eg: Black Metal, Hardcore, Speedcore, Grindcore, etc. --User:Thedangerouskitchen 01:46, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) ---- == disturbing == if describing death metal as disturbing is POV (I have an extensive death metal collection, BTW) than what WOULD be a good way to point out that the vast majority of lyrics, if read and understood, would cause an average person to be disturbed? This clear tendancy toward the diabolical, deviant, abnormal, shocking and otherwise bothersome to grandma is an important fact to mention. I would like to hear an alternate suggestion. Are you a death metal afficionado yourself, snowspin? I'd reccomend having a glance at [http://www.darklyrics.com/c/cannibalcorpse.html]. User:Sam Spade http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 03:54, 21 May 2004 (UTC) :I have a small death metal collection. I think that, in this case, the situation is similar in methodology, if not scale, to Adolf Hitler and the classic example from NPOV - describe the lyrics, trust the people to say, "Hey. That's disturbing." User:Snowspinner 03:59, 21 May 2004 (UTC) ::I agree that this is a meta-issue. There are two basic questions, in my eyes. #1. Does any reasonable person disagree? (you may not see this as being of any import, but I might). #2. Is this relevent/needed? I would say that on AH, the repetition was not needed, and that here there is practically no content describing what these fellows care to sing about. I'll do my best to remedy this. User:Sam Spade http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 04:07, 21 May 2004 (UTC) :::Much improved. Good edit. User:Snowspinner 04:12, 21 May 2004 (UTC) ---- Is there anyone who can add some information with regards to some of the other subgenres of death metal? I was looking in particular for descriptive text of florida death metal vs NY DM - Is there a distinct difference? Gothenburg and general scandinavian DM is easy enough to find out (or hear, for that matter), and in fact is linked already. Though you might want to add in a link to the (non-existent) New Wave of Swedish Death Metal. wgm == Napalm Death == I think Napalm Death really deserves mention alongside the bands listed. The band Death didn't originate death metal just because they were called Death. The Napalm Death entry in the Wikipedia states that Napalm Death is "grindcore" which I agree is appropriate in today's terms for their very early work and some relapses (although Bill Steer called their grindcore period "death metal" at the time) but ''Harmony Corruption'' from 1990 I would definitely classify as death metal, after Jesse Pintado appears as a songwriter in the band. An early sign of their co-existence with the Florida school is the Terrorizer album, that was co-authored by Jesse Pintado and David Vincent from Morbid Angel. So let's take Morbid Angel as an example, that is listed as a typical original death metal band in the entry. Their "Altars of Madness", just like the early stuff by the band called Death, is fairly unsophisticated and derivative from earlier bands like the Californian band Possessed's "Seven Churches" from 1985. Anyone can have their definition of death metal, but in my opinion a good point of separation between Possessed-like growling and modern, more well-executed, death metal happened in 1990 and 1991 and was a concerted effort between Britain and Florida. Blessed Are the Sick (1991) is Morbid Angel's most classic and influential album containing music of this kind, and it came after the work by Vincent and Pintado in 1989, and the Napalm Death stuff with Embury in 1990. If you think Death originated death metal, Possessed really should be mentioned alongside with them, but then you have to separate off Morbid Angel and Napalm Death's post-1989 stuff as "modern" or "more technical" death metal, along with Death's "Human" from 1991 (that, again, came after "Harmony Corruption"). I didn't attempt to edit the entry yet since I was wondering if people really disagree with me or if the entry was just very unfinished. User:128.111.16.181 20:34, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC) :People probably do disagree with you, and the entry is very unfinished. The wiki way tends to produce some crappy articles until someone like you comes along that can tie everything together... The current article was basically written by a badly-organized committee. Many of wiki's articles on death metal and other metal subgenres are very subpar. Go ahead and be bold! User:TUF-KAT 02:48, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC) :: I tried! Probably all kinds of fans (especially Cannibal Corpse ones) will kill it, but wrongly so ;) User:Marcus B 22:47, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC) :::While I agree that Napalm Death's output after From Enslavement... was Death Metal, they weren't really innovative contributors to the genre by the time these albums were released. That's not to say that they should be removed from the article, but bands such as Repulsion (often lumped into grindcore when they were an equally important influence on death metal) aren't even mentioned. User:OnwardToGolgotha 03:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Black metal is not that closely related to death metal! == How can you say that black metal is closely related to death metal?? All black metal music are minimalistic and very limited in way compared to death metal. : There is somekind of relation betveen them but not close. Venom is a example. Its more black metal but has many kinds of parts from death metal. ::Except that Venom is much older than modern death metal and musically isn't even related to black metal -- User:Dysfunktion 20:57, 19 May 2005 (UTC) == Early scene == I was thinking of adding a genre box for this page, but I'm not exactly sure about the early (mid 1980s) death metal scene. I was thinking Florida (Death, Morbid Angel...) and South America (Sepultura, Sarcofago...). How does this sound? == Children of Bodom == I saw Children of Bodom on the list, would you really consider them Death Metal? I think they are more Power metal with growling vocals as they probably are. *Some consider them death, others consider them power, many consider them melodic death, others call them simply ''metal'' to avoid picking a genre. Quite a few of their songs are death metal, especially those from Something Wild and a couple from Hate Crew Deathroll, so I believe they fit the list. --User:Sn0wflake 00:41, 6 May 2005 (UTC) They growl. These groupings are far from scientific, maybe some day a technique for precise musical diagnosis will be developed, until then catagories are vague. ''User:Sam Spade'' 01:06, 6 May 2005 (UTC) The question is are they a notable example of death metal? Methinks not User:Spearhead 22:01, 6 May 2005 (UTC) *I got to know death metal through them, so yeah, they must have some influence. However, I have no intention of getting into this "who is death metal" debate. These lists are utterly pointless. The creators of the genre should be listed and that's it, since genre is completely subjective. Who can define with authority to what style precisely a band belongs? Very few bands on the list can't be questioned in some manner. The article should be improved intead of reverted to death. --User:Sn0wflake 01:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC) == please remove the "key artists" list == Great effort here, for the most part. I'd really like to see this article contain only the overview, the history, and definitions/examples of the subgenres; and scrap the "key artists" list. No two people are going to agree on which bands deserve inclusion on the list, and IMHO it really weakens the article to present something so obviously subjective under the pretense of being definitive. - Murphy S., metal listener for 20+ years *This should apply to all articles about musical genres. But we have to start from somewhere, I guess. I concur. --User:Sn0wflake 02:25, 9 May 2005 (UTC) * Note there are two lists: key artists and List of notable death metal bands. The former is actually quite stable. The latter is not - some ppl keep adding irrelevant bands to that list (maybe a good idea to require registration for editting anyway) and other remove them again (notably Lamb of god) - but basic list is also quite stable. Anyway, most of the article could use some work, mostly the post 1990 section. User:Spearhead 15:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC) *I think this is an extremely bad idea, and intend to revert any attempts at it. ''User:Sam Spade'' 16:28, 9 May 2005 (UTC) ::Very reasonable and argumentative of you. Instead of exposing your point of view, you state that you are going to start an edit war in case things don't go your way. How about argumenting like Spearhead? ::To make this clear: I AM IN FAVOR of the '''Key artistist'' section. What I am AGAINST is the List of notable DMB --User:Sn0wflake 18:56, 9 May 2005 (UTC) ===Compromise=== List of notable death metal bands, which can be included in the see also section. I don't want these lists deleted because they are extremely useful to me as a reader. Before editing on the wikipedia I was a reader for a couple of years, and I (and other readers I know) use these lists for a source of bands to look into. If its becoming to much of the article it needs to be moved to list page. ''User:Sam Spade'' 19:17, 9 May 2005 (UTC) :Seems reasonable. I concur --User:Sn0wflake 19:21, 9 May 2005 (UTC) :I object. It doesn't solve the problem. I think the keyword here is 'notable' which is rather personal. Second, it is superfluous as List of heavy metal musicians covers it. OK, I've done my best to address the above concerns, what say you now? ''User:Sam Spade'' 20:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC) : seems fair.... tho it seems that List of heavy metal musicians is a bit obsolete anyway... So my proposal would be for that list to be make it into a list of heavy metal subgenres or so pointing to lists of each genre. What do you say? User:Spearhead 21:00, 9 May 2005 (UTC) I agree strongly. Be bold! Both sound like good ideas. I'll look into it. ''User:Sam Spade'' 22:08, 9 May 2005 (UTC) ==stop filling the list of key artists== Keep this list clean. The list is fairly complete as it was, altho there are some bands overlooked. The list of Death Metal bands is for listing death metal bands as it says. User:Spearhead 19:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) == Lamb of God == * Lamb of God (band) (United States) Why isn't Lamb of God Death metal? ''User:Sam Spade'' 19:12, 9 May 2005 (UTC) : see article --> Lamb Of God is a five-piece progressive thrash metal band from Richmond, Virginia, US. Not that I have ever listened to them tho... anyway, not wanting to discuss what style it is precisely, LoG don't appear to be very notable in the first place... that goes for some other bands on the list as well. anyway the lists seems to have gone now anyway... User:Spearhead 20:00, 9 May 2005 (UTC) Well, the subtleties of music genre and article notability are a never ending debate. Any idea what genre hank III is, btw? Does his self chosen "hellbilly" count? ;) ''User:Sam Spade'' 22:10, 9 May 2005 (UTC) I've heard Lamb of God, and they are not death metal. Metalcore and death metal are both fast and have growling vocals, but they're not the same (hell, Killswitch Engage's singer had deeper vocals but they're not death metal). I don't claim to know much about metalcore, but I do know death metal. Lamb of God has a different rhythm than death metal (Lamb of God is kind of "spastic" or "chunky" sometimes, and most death metal has a steady flowing rhythm like Deicide and Malevolent Creation, although it's not always as strong), and breakdowns, which from what I've heard are a staple of metalcore and hardcore. Lamb of God would make a good death metal band, but strictly speaking, they're not metal. == Sub Genres and the possible addtion of technical musical details == I think the entry was well written. However i found that in the sub-genre section there was no mention of florida or new york death metal so i have added them. i believe at a minimum and entry on death metal does have to include something about florida especially if it mentions sweden. i also mention carcass's role in gore grind and added exhumed and impaled as they typify gore grind i believe. also i am not sure of slam death metal. i have never heard the term but it may be similar to new york death metal and they could be merged if this is tru. also i have added death thrash. i am not sure if what i wrote is entirely correct so i would like feedback. also i was looking at the anus.com and it has a lot of detailed facts about the music and vocals. it has been written with a lot of technical details about music theory and more. it classifies the different song structures of the genres, different vocal styles, etc. someone here as asked about including the info on the various vocal styles. is this appropriate here? i would like an opinion. i agree with most of this entry. i found the clarification of the early roots useful. also i believe something should be said about this: although death metal in definition must have grunted vocals and blast beats this is not always tru as some Entombed albums like clandestine do not have blast beats but they are death metal no less. (of course the newer death 'n' roll cds by them are NOT death metal.) there may even be examples of death metal without grunted vocals i do not know of. so this criteria should not be rigid but a generalized basis. more should be elaborated on the attitude and philosophy and maybe a classification of the lyrical styles would shed more light for example the 4 main types of lyrics: satanic/religious (some pro-christian bands r DM), gory/medical (carcass), philosophical (death) and socio/political (napalm death.) i didnt want to change too much as i am nu here. but i felt that mention of florida was important. also i feel scot burns should be mentioned as the premier producer and those 2 famous studios (one in sweden, one in florida.) also the links to the various labels would be good and i could do it if you guys agree. and there is no mention of noise core as some bands do incoporate influences from death metal. i do know it is not death metal and even more distant than grind core. also i believe lamb of god is NOT DM. it is thrash. i feel the latest testament album sounds more like death metal than LoG. it does have the growls sometimes but otherwise it is thrash. slayer stylistically is closer to death metal. even old sepultura can be said to be death metal. but not LoG. but i dont think LoG is metalcore like killswitch engage.

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