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==Welcome==
Hey Bcorr :) I hope you like the place and choose to Wikipedia:Wikipedians.
Some links that may be of use:
• Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers
• Wikipedia:How to edit a page
• Wikipedia:Village pump - ask questions you may have here, or leave a message on my User_talk:Dysprosia
Nice work on Sovereignty association! However, don't forget to bold the title in your introduction. You can use three 's, like bold.
Keep contributing! :) User:Dysprosia 04:44, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)
==Archived talk==
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200309
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200310
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200311
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200312
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200401
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200402
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200403
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200404
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200405
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200406
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200407
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200408
* User_talk:Bcorr/Archive_200409
==October 2004==
===• Wikipedia Article ===
Thanks for the kind note about my name mention in the Wikipedia article. I just wrote this up, perhaps you will like it as well: [http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/001293.html#more]
===• Vote: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis ===
See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis. Thank you. User:IZAK 09:14, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• ad hoc? ===
Isn't that what the wiki is all about, creating and refining new wordings of verifiable definitions via the group editing process? Clearly we can't just cut and paste from outside references, particularly when their not open source. I ''really'' think we aught to simply accept that we have a difference of opinion on this talk:racism thing, and leave the article in a NPOV enough state for the reader to understand that some people use the term differently than others. Honestly, I think the intro looks pretty good at the moment. I've extended the same suggestion to pir, that we agree to disagree, and move on, leaving the article fair and balanced. User:Sam Spadehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 11:57, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:Hi Sam -- I've left a message on Talk:Racism as well. Since there is clearly not agreement on the definition of racism, it seems very reasonable and NPOV (IMHO) to use a major dictionary's ''current'' full definition at the beginning, rather than a slight paraphrasing of the same dictionary's definition from 78 years ago (''cf.'' Talk:Racism#Racial_discrimination_is_not_Racism). I propose leaving the 2002 Webster's definition until we can reach agreement about a definition. I added in the part that VV finds POV months ago (and I must note that most African Americans agree with the definition as I had left it, so it's definitely not a "native/non-native speaker" divide, BTW), so clearly the Webster's definition isn't my idea of what racism is, so I hope that all can see this as a compromise. Thanks, User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 14:39, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::Of course not, in what way is that any sort of compromise whatsoever? Also, how would you know what most african americans think? Do you know any? Do you have a cite? I am a poll buff, and know dozens of african americans personally, and I don't go around claiming to know what most afro-americans think. Also, even if you were correct, what possible difference would it make (regarding the definition of the word) what most african americans thought? Would that make it correct? It would make a potentially noteworthy cited factoid, but that is all. User:Sam Spadehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 14:45, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::(oh, and p.s. thats alot of spam, next time use a Hyperlink instead, will ya?) User:Sam Spadehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 14:49, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:I'm sorry Sam -- I accidentally deleted a lot of this last night when I did a formatting edit from my PDA and didn't realize this was all in one section (since my PDA truncates anything over 255 characters).
:My short and final answer here to the questions you raised above (since I've already addressed most of this on Talk:Racism) is: I'm an "afro american" (as you refer to us) myself, and yes, I know a many, many others, and yes, I've provided citations that you've deemed unimportant, including the latest edition of Webster's, so I'm not going to argue the points again as it seems fruitless to do so here on my talk page.
:And, BTW, I've noticed your latest candidacy for becoming an admin -- I hope that you are able to gain insight from how people react and not simply looking "for the usual suspects to sound off about how their inability to cope w the group editing process is compounded by their poor social skills" as you said on your talk page. Seeing that you are so deeply committed to such cynical views of the community saddens me.
:Sincerely, User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 12:37, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Wow, thanx for bringing that to my attentions, I had no clue I was up for election, hehe~! I made some choice comments Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship, which I'm sure you'll find delightful. My opinion of the community here is that it is diverse. There are many, many good people here, and the wiki is a wonderful resource and hobby for me. That said, I have met more obnoxious people possessed of obscene and ludicrous opinions here than I have anywhere else. The fact that a certain handful of them have decided to ride about on my coat tails creates a cynical impression within me of humanity (at least online humanity), not of the project.
As far as how I refer to "you guys" I usually call you American, for allot of reasons (which I'd be happy to explain sometime if you'd like, it boils down to me thinking you likely have more in common culturally, ethnically, even genetically w say me, than you do w some guy in Africa, or a "British African", etc...). I only say "afro-American" or whatever for the sake of amusement (are their "crewcut-americans" too? if so I am one ;) and because it seemed the polite/PC thing to do. As fun as your ethnic heritage might be to talk about, it doesn't give you any special status (at least not w me), nor ability to speak for your community. Chris Rock has a special status in the American community, and I'd say he speaks for many (if not most of us) when he states, "Black people are more racist than white people", an insightful comment indeed. He ''is'' a citable source of info, unlike our fine selves. Also, no matter what he, or a poll, or a majority of such-and-such Americans say or think, heck, no matter what websterIV decides to say, the definition of terms is based on consensus. When distinctly divergent definitions occur (as they do between you {a handful of far leftists I have experienced pretty much only online} and everyone else I have ever met, we provide both definitions, with a verifiable explanation of who uses them, how and why. That’s NPOV. Copy pasting a particular dic-def on top of my ad-hoc one is not what I call a compromise. Frankly, I think we may need to bring in the community w some "neutrality disputed" and "page in need of assistance" flags if this foolishness keeps up. I've been debating w you folks about this for over a month now, w essentially no progress. My position isn't going to change, and I don't intend to keep debating w you about this until Webster decides to write the dictionary the way you want him to ;) Cheers, User:Sam Spadehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 13:48, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• Editing User:Mike Church ===
Why did you revert my edit on User:Mike Church? It was a proper edit. --User:Lst27User talk:Lst27 00:18, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:Hi Alex -- it's because none of us should edit other people's user pages in general -- but especially in this case since Mike has (mostly) left and has been pretty difficult for many of us to deal with and is very sensitive to feeling persecuted. You might also not that just a few minutes ago (20:08 EDT, 3 Oct 2004) I reverted a change to User:AlexPlank that outing you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:AlexPlank&diff=0&oldid=6320910 here] for the same basic reason.
:Many thanks, User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 00:34, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• Sam Spade ===
Thanks for letting me know, I went back and fixed my edit. I would ask, though, that maybe you could move the bulk of your comment out of the "voting" space and down to comments. I have a feeling that it will prompt many responses, and we probably don't want the voting area to become cluttered. Thanks. -- User:NetoholicUser talk:Netoholic 17:01, 2004 Oct 4 (UTC)
:I decided to make a formal, public appology for having sworn at you six months ago, or whenever, and I would like you to know I'm open to mediation if you think it would be helpful. Cheers, User:Sam Spadehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 21:53, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::Thank you for the apology, Sam -- and the kind words on Talk:Racism -- I appreciate both of them. I hope that we don't need to go to mediation at this juncture, but I'm more than open to discussing that if we continue to clash now and again. Sincerely, User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 00:04, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• Wikipedia:WikiProject countering systemic bias ===
We seem to be almost ready to go live with Wikipedia:WikiProject countering systemic bias. I know you were interested earlier. User:Xed seems to have dropped out, so we are back to the broader focus I was advocating. I'd love to have you aboard. Please, sign up as a participant and also, please weigh soon in on anything you'd like to see changed before we really announce this. -- User:Jmabel 23:35, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
:Thanks for the invite -- I just noticed this a few hours ago and added it to my watchlist, but I haven't actually read through it -- I'll go take a look as soon as I can. Thanks, User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 00:01, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• Thank you for your advise about mediation of JW, but... ===
Thank you for your advise, but I think edit wars about first sentence of this article has started.
Trinitarians will never accept that Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians, and I won't concede them, because I think it's a lebel to JW. Do Wikipedia have guidelines about minor religions? I think only NPOV guidline has disadvantage for minor religions that are spoken evil of like JW, because many Wikipedians belong to major religions, and they contribute in their views. User:Rantaro 13:24, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:Thanks for the reply -- as I said, hopefully this can be worked out at WP:RfC, but if not mediation may be an option. Thanks, User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 14:37, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• User:Habbit===
I think suggesting the Wikipedia:Office of Members' Advocates would be a perfect alternative. User:Angelauser talk:Angela 21:12, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
:Thanks Angela -- I'll leave a message at Habbit's talk page. User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 14:37, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• Thanks ===
Thanks for the kind message. User:Dori | User talk:Dori 23:14, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
:You're welcome! Glad you're back! User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 14:37, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• MC===
Well, better face the fact that I just would not have any time for it even if I were asked to help, which I am not :-) It is like the huge number of inactive sysops :-) You may transform it to list "inactif MC" and "active MC" and "away MC" if you think it less abrupt. Except that I do not consider myself away in any sense, just not having the time ... But if the chair ever thinks I may be useful, do not hesitate anyway.
I thought of what you said. I would have something to ask you later in this week. Thanks :-) User:Anthere
:merci ;-) User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 14:37, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
=== Xed ===
I'm with you (or just behind you: your breaking point was reached first). See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias#Is_Xed_in_charge_of_this_project_or_not.3F. Still, I hope you, like me, will keep it on your watchlist to see what other articles people suggest, and maybe suggest articles at times. -- User:Jmabel 23:30, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
===• RfM ===
I moved the page to a title encompassing ''both'' participants. Just a heads up. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 22:04, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:PLEASE DON'T DO THAT! 22:08, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::Why not? Mediation is not a one-person affair. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 22:18, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::::Because I asked you to. Because it's a case that involves you. Because I want to go home and eat dinner and not have to worry about your changing what I've done in my capacity as chair of the MC. 22:26, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::::(It's a case that involved Shorne, and he got to pick the initial title of the section.) Presumably your deeds as chair are not immune to improvement by others - in this case your primary action was creating the subpage, and it seems secondary how you happened to choose a title. My page title is clearly more accurate and reflective, regardless of your dinner plans. And you didn't ask, you screamed. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 22:57, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::::::Common sense seays that you shouldn't move a page that is about a conflict that you are a party to. User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 23:53, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::::::Common sense says the title should reflect the content. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 07:35, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::He already has. It was entirely inappropriate. Please move it back. User:Shorne 22:11, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::He moved it again. User:Shorne 22:21, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::::Yes, yes, I know. There's no need to leave me a note each and every time. My watchlist will tell me. User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 22:26, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS! You are way out of line. Protecting the mediation page now? User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 22:23, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:I'm the chair of the MC. You're the subject of a request. If I didn't keep having to deal with edit conflicts, etc., I wouldn't have to take such drastic measures. Stop your actions now or I will be forced to refer this to the AC. 22:26, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::This is a wiki, not a dictatorship. I know of nothing in the mediation policy that entitles you to choose and enforce a page title for mediation request subpages, a title which in this case is ''clearly'' one-sided. Since you apparently dislike me since I don't know when for reasons I don't know what, you should probably recuse yourself from further involvement in this case, chair or no. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 22:42, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::: Dictatorship? Bah! That was the title of the request, and if you didn't see fit to change it before I moved the lengthy discussion to a subpage, there seems to be no reason to do it now other than to pick a fight with me. It is perfectly reasonable to keep the name, as it's the same request that he made. And if you had ''asked'' (even shouting) I think it would have been no problem. Once again, your unilateralism is your undoing, IMHO. I will be happy to recuse myself from mediating this conflict, but I will continue to carry out my work in managing the size and content of WP:RfM and it's subpages.User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 23:53, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::::Because I didn't notice the section title that means that I "agreed" it should be one-sided? What if the section title had been "VeryVerily's vandalism"? I only shouted when you did. And it's a wiki, anyone should change something that needs fixing; I again see no guideline that I need your permission. You seriously think I changed to a fair title "to pick a fight with you"? I even notified you on your talk page as an act of good faith. Apparently that's not something you reciprocate. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 07:35, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::::This is silly. We both know damned well the page belongs where I put it. Maybe you should get off the power/control thing, acknowledge this, and move on to more productive pursuits. User:VeryVerilyUser talk:VeryVerily 07:45, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::::::I reject this demand. It would be the height of ignominy for the chairman of the committee to submit to this sort of manipulation. I also cannot believe that you have again changed the name (what is this, the fourth time? the fifth?) in the face of the warning that the matter would be addressed to the AC. Earlier someone could not find the page at all, evidently because you had broken the link. And over an issue of no consequence at that! I do implore you to stop this childish behaviour. User:Shorne 08:10, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::::I thank you for your admirable patience in the handling of this unseemly outburst. For the record, I would have had no objection to the two titles favoured by VeryVerily if he had asked rather than asserting that his way was the only right way. At this point, however, I do object to yielding to his preference as a matter of principle, or perhaps I should say child psychology.
::::I also have no objection to the choice of another mediator, although I'm sure that Bcorr would do a fine job. Indeed, I recommend that another mediator be appointed, for Bcorr has already suffered enough. User:Shorne 00:22, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===• Complaint about VeryVerily ===
I wish to know why nothing has been done about my request for mediation with VeryVerily, other than its removal to a different page. User:Shorne 22:06, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:I've been away for a long weekend and don't have time to do anything at ''this exact moment'' other than shorten the page so that people can edit it. Please remember that we mediators are volunteers. 22:10, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::Fine. It seemed to me that the matter was being ignored. In addition, I don't appreciate the meddling of arbitrator Fred Bauder, who has a clear personal stake in the matter. User:Shorne 22:12, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
== Rutan ==
I assume you didn't double-check the article after making [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Burt_Rutan&diff=6548509&oldid=6546972 this edit]?! fixed now, in any case. User:Leif 03:17, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
==Return to active duty==
Hi Brian. Just to let you know I'm intending to become active in mediation work again from today. I won't look at any of the old requests, but hope to pick up some of the new work coming in. Maybe I'll be of use again. Best -- User:SannseUser talk:Sannse 19:58, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
== "Terrorism" straw poll ==
Bcorr, there is a straw poll going on at Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks on whether or not to use the term "terrorist" to describe the 9/11 attacks. I'd be interested in hearing your view on the subject. User:Quadell – User:Quadell(User_talk:Quadell) (User:Quadell/Request for assistance) 23:11, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
== Boston meetup! ==
Will you be around the weekend of the 20th? I would love to see you again. :-)
Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston
== See these six categories up for "votes of deletion": ==
See these six categories up for "votes of deletion":
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Palestinian_terrorists
and
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Palestinian_terrorist_organizations
and
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Middle_East_terrorists
and
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Terrorist_organizations
and
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Islamic_terrorist_organizations
and this one too:
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Jewish_terrorist_organizationsUser:IZAK 10:10, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
== Astrochicken ==
Hi, Bcorr. :) I'm letting everyone who voted on the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Astrochicken know that I have placed it on Wikipedia:Votes for Undeletion. I would appreciate any comments there that you may have. User:FuncUser_talk:Func 17:03, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
== Re: Gzorn, KB, and VV ==
Seeing as how the ArbCom doesn't appear to give two shits about the fact that I've been mediating these guys for the past month and have gone ahead and initiated arbitration proceedings in the midst of mediation without even doing me the courtesy of INFORMING me, I hereby request a sabbatical from the Mediation Committee. I'm also running for the ArbCom in the hopes of having at least one person there who is responsible enough to pay attention to the mediation process. --User:Dante Alighieri | User talk:Dante Alighieri 19:04, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
== Wikipedia:Forum for Encyclopedic Standards ==
I have drafted a proposal for a new voluntary association on Wikipedia (joining groups like the Wikipedia:The Business and Economics Forum and the Wikipedia:Harmonious editing club) to promote discussion of a sort of system of expert review on Wiki. Please take a look and add your ideas. User:172 02:33, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
*Wonderful idea! I have joined. I will let some other know. Thank you. User:IZAK 19:11, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
== quaker - source for recent Testimonies ==
Dear Brian, do you have a source for the recent quaker testimonies?
(Testimony of Unity with Creation & The Testimony of Living In The World" quoted in the wiki entry on quakers? Thx a lot! pixxaa
== Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! ==
Let's meet in Harvard square tomorrow eve... I hope you'll be around; it would be wonderful to see you. See Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston for potential places. User:Sj+">User Talk:Sj
== Article Licensing ==
Hi, I've User:rambot#Free the Rambot Articles project to get users to Wikipedia:Multi-licensing all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (''CC-by-sa'') v1.0 and v2.0 Creative Commons Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The ''CC-by-sa'' license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
*User talk:Ram-Man#Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
*Wikipedia:Multi-licensing
*User:rambot#Free the Rambot Articles project
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "" template into their user page, but there are other options at Wikipedia:Template messages/User namespace#Licensing Templates. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
:Option 1
:I agree to Wikipedia:Multi-licensing all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
:OR
:Option 2
:I agree to Wikipedia:Multi-licensing all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:
:
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "" with "". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. ''Please let me know'' what you think at my User talk:Ram-Man. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- User:Ram-Man ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit§ion=new comment]| User talk:Ram-Man
==RFC pages on VfD==
Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by User:CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - User:Ta bu shi da yu 03:20, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
== Mediation Committee nominations ==
Hello, Bcorr! Right now, there are 3 or 4 standing nominations for mediator at WP:MC (I'm one of them). As you are chair of the MC, can you circulate this to other mediators/community/.etc however you do? Some have stood uncommented for weeks, and I think they deserve consideration and response. Thank you. Cheers, User:Whosyourjudas\User_talk:Whosyourjudas">User:Whosyourjudas|User:Whosyourjudas\User talk:Whosyourjudas 23:23, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
== Request for mediation, re. deaf ==
On behalf of a disputant I placed a request for mediation on the appropriate page several days ago, and it has not yet met with a reply. It is the holiday season and people are busy, certainly, but it is difficult to proceed without actually knowing whether the case will be accepted and who is assigned to assist. Can you take a look and let me know if this is appropriate for mediation, and if so, can you assign someone, even if it doesn't get started immediately? User:Wally 22:25, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Could ''someone'' please start mediating? - User:Andre Engels 16:03, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
==Asbestosis Compensation and Liability Disputes==
Bcorr, I'f you get the chance I'd welcome your input on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestosis_-_Compensation_and_Liability_Disputes] and the preceeding (now archived) VfD debate
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Asbestosis_-_Compensation_and_Liability_Disputes archive] . (There was a bit of a heated debate at the outset, but it seemed to calm down and the community vote decided on keeping a standalone article).
IMHO, the article has undergone reasonable revision (both during the debate itself , and subsequently), and maybe the time would be ripe to reconsider the NPOV and CLEANUP tags. What do you think? User:Wikityke 23:01, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
==Anthony agreement up for renewal==
Anthony's standing order is up for renewal. If you look at his recent behavior, I think you'll find that it warrents being renewed. Please make your opinion known on Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Standing_orders/AnthonyUser:Raul654 03:13, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)
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==ACCIDENTAL vandalism==
I destroyed by mistake the English version of page ATC code A02 (overwrite to translate into french; I tought I was in the French section.
Please restore the previous English version
I am very sorry
User:Eras-mus 23:43, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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== Wikipedia:Mediation meeting ==
Template:Mediation-meeting
Please edit the side box here (be brief) to update when you might be able to attend. Thanks. -User:StevertigoUser_talk:Stevertigo 22:07, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== And greetings to you, too, Brian. . . ==
Hi there,
Saw your greeting on my talk page, and thought I'd return the greeting.
Greetings!
--User:Jpramas 01:28, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== Angela JPG ==
Hi Bcorr - Brookie here - interested to know why you reverted my clearing of the redirect on the Angela.jpg picture. I thought that it was considered bad form to have a redirect on a picture - and Angela was happy with it being removed. User:Brookie 13:50, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Seeking ==
Thanks! I've just starting going to an unprogrammed Quaker service about two months ago. It's very fulfilling for me. The silent (or sometimes silent) services are deeply moving. Good luck to you as well! – User:Quadell(User_talk:Quadell) (Wikipedia:Image sleuthing) 14:29, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
== Friends ==
I have a great interest in Friends, because many of my parents ancestors were Friends. I am not officially a Friend, but I do agree with most Friends principles. I am more in sympathy with Evangelical Friends. I also have an interest in other peace churches, especially Mennonite, as it is part of my wife's ancestry. User:Logophile 16:30, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
==Reply from User:Nobs==
* 'inter-generational non-consensual sex' is a term I read in the Albuquerque tribune March 6 2005 discussing current legilastion before the New Mexico State Legislature, I am busy recovering the source
* links to my site contain only well researched information not available elsewhere on www
* sorry my friend, I am a preofessional Research Historian and not in the business of self promotion.
:: Hello Nobs -- The example you cite is therefore legal jargon if anything, but again, if one is passing a law to make something illegal, surely one is not using such terminology to avoid offending the offenders. And regarding the blog, please cite the source, rather than you blog. Please also see Wikipedia:No original research. Thanks, User:Bcorr|User talk:Bcorr 17:48, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
*Thanks for the response; actually I beleive the phrase is probably journalistic in origin reporting on current legislative actions.
Also thanks for your patience, I am knew to wiki and realize I never will be able to read all the instructions in a lifetime, so I appreciate your help.
P.S.''"original research" in this context refers to untested theories; data, statements, concepts and ideas that have not been published in a reputable publication'', my research clearly shows original source [http://memory.loc.gov/gc/lhbum/07510/0045.tif]
== History of India - Reply ==
Thank you for your welcome and useful links to enrich my experience at Wikipedia. I'll soon introduce myself to the community. I appreciate your comments on my edits of the India page. I agree that I have edited the History section of this page by reducing the emphasis on wars between modern India and its neighbors, but I have not omitted mentioning these either. I believe that I have presented a neutral piture of India, even adding a few negative domestic events that have not been referred to in the earlier write. For a comparison, please visit the History sections of Pakistan and China, and the references to their wars with India. Thanks.
User:Shaker 22:05, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Spelling ==
Is there standard for spelling words at Wikipedia - American or British? Thanks.
== Manuchao ==
I don't think he's Vogel. His writing style is different, he hasn't reverted Cosmotheism yet, and the topics he has edited are of interest to many of Vogel's ilk (couldn't resist). I suspect he's just one of the many neo-Nazis who have been making pests of themselves lately. (If you haven't heard about the Stormfront campaign against Wikipedia, the mailing list posts which start at [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-February/018989.html] should give a decent overview.) —User:MirvUser talk:MirvSpecial:Emailuser/Mirv 01:49, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Why Commonwealth ==
Dear Brian,
Please see my replay on User talk:IrishHermit. Didn't mean to sound flip.
All the best,
Tomás
== revert ==
hi there, just to inform you ... I did a revert on :m:User:Bcorr/Repository; greetings, -- User:Schusch 12:12, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:well I haven't been in meta for months ... :-) but I was searching an information about uploading film and did a google-search - I think your page was hit nr. 1 :-) so many films - but not exactly what I wanted - greetings -- User:Schusch 19:33, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Meetup Sunday! ==
Come to Asmara in Central sq this sunday... 5pm. I'd love to see you. User:Sj+">User Talk:Sj 23:56, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Meetup Sunday ==
you know you want to...
==Request page protection for article==
Would you page protect the pages below please as Violetriga's unilateral reverting of my adding a balanced view is against policy. It is not allowed to revert such an edit, rather adding the balanced opposing view to an article is good policy. Also Violetriga has abused the 3 revert rule here and also broken the policy of starting an edit war rather than discussion.User:Kreen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_of_the_year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastfeeding
== Please read the ''expanded'' Elagabalus article ==
I significantly expanded the Elagabalus in late March and would like to nominate for featured status by the end of April. Since he is rather controversial, I've tried to go out of my way to cite sources and present differing accounts about his rule. It probably still needs some work which is why I'm asking several people to review/edit before it's nominated. I'd appreciate it, having previously edited the article, you would review it and get back to me about what you think. Thanks. -User:JCarriker 02:59, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
== Research project on wiki contributors ==
Hello-
I am aware that this is not the typical message usually posted, so I would like to apologize and ask for your kind understanding.
I am a PhD student at Syracuse University School of Information Studies. My advisor and I are working on a research project on contributors to Wikis. This project received Institutional Review Board Approval number 05048.
I would like to have a brief email dialog with you about your experience as a Wikipedia contributor. Please respond to this posting or send me an email at wikiresearch@hotmail.com, if you would be willing to answer a couple of quick questions.
I would like to assure you that your comments will remain confidential.
Best regards,
-Isabelle Fagnot
== Possible impostor ==
I've been doing some impostor hunting lately, and you got the following hits: . Of course, this may be nothing, but I thought I would let you know. – User:ClockworkSoulUser talk:ClockworkSoul 02:39, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
== Possible new mediator and committee chair ==
User:MacGyverMagic has nominated himself to be a mediator and indicated he's willing to take over as chair. In an effort to help keep the mediation process alive, it would be nice if you could comment on this at Wikipedia:Mediation Committee. --User:Michael Snow 20:09, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I try to keep the following queries and advice in mind as I work here at the 'pedia:
--> Working on Wikipedia
''The Four-way test from Rotary International''
* Is it the truth?
* Is it fair to all concerned?
* Will it build goodwill and better relationships?
* Will it be beneficial to all concerned?
--> Working with Wikipedians
''Queries from the Religious Society of Friends''
* Do I approach others with respect and concern?
* Am I concerned with community and its needs?
* Am I an agent for tolerance and acceptance?
* Can I forgive others easily?
* Is there harmony between what I believe and how I act?
--> Working through Conflict
''Some suggestions from Larry_Sanger on what Wikipedians should do:''
* Be open and warmly Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers, not insular,
* Be focused singlemindedly on writing an encyclopedia, not on Usenet-style debate,
* Recognize and praise the Brilliant prose, work that is detailed, factual, well-informed, and well-referenced,
* Work to understand what NPOV requires and why it is so essential to and good for this project,
* Treat your fellow productive, [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?AssumeGoodFaith well-meaning] Wikipedians of Wikipedia with respect and good will,
* Attract and honor good people who know a lot and can write about it well, and
* Show the door to Internet trolls, vandalism, and Anarchist#Anarchism:_the_basics, who if permitted would m:bans#Troll_talk and create a poisonous atmosphere here.
--> An outline for a Wikicovenant from User:Kingturtle:
* Make others feel welcome (even longtime participants; even those you dislike)
* Create and continue a friendly environment
* Turn the other cheek (which includes walking away from potential edit wars)
* Give praise, especially to those you don't know (most people like to know they are wanted and appreciated)
* Forgive
''See also:''
* [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?CategoryConflict Conflict pages at Meatball]
* [http://members.aol.com/intwg/flamewars.htm Flame wars]
* [http://members.tripod.com/~thewebtvguru/trolls/#2 How to spot a troll]
* [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WhatIsaTroll What is a troll?]
* [http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm Why are trolls trolls?]
* Internet trolls
--> Words of User:Bcorr/Wikiwisdom
*''Be bold in using non-sysop powers. Be timid in using sysop powers. Be bold when you anticipate no objections. Be timid when objections have already been expressed.'' -- User:MyRedDice
*''...being an administrator places a very heavy burden of responsibility. Administrators become the brunt of all the misguided antagonism from disgruntled and problem users, and yet must always act with the utmost dignity and Wikiquette.'' -- User:Mark
*''...plus almost all actions are reversible -- unlike military force. There's no "Votes for unbombing"'' -- User:BCorr on why there isn't a Wikijunta
*''One doesn't fight a troll. Reverse troll. Take a troll and transmute it into something positive to say about the world. Over and over again. Without falter, without anger. If it isn't a troll, then you win. If it is a troll, you win. It isn't an easy solution, but it is the easiest. Maybe instead of being an emotional cost, it will turn into a source of emotional energy. Especially if we remember that we don't have to reply right away. The faster we reply the more emotionally charged the place is. Glaciality.'' -- SunirShah
*''We quiet our conscience from being responsible for the death of millions of innocent, beautiful creatures by ridiculing the ones who have managed to overcome the same primitive desires.'' -- User:Eloquence speaks about vegetarians.
--> Words of unWikiwisdom
*''Romanians may accept unspeakable suffering, but they will never accept unjustice !'' -- ''Irismeister''
*''All sysops can communicate with each other using a back channel consisting of an unrelated web page and encrypted, predefined signals.'' -- ''Plautus satire''
*''On Wikipedia, there is a giant conspiracy attempting to have articles agree with reality.'' -- ''Plautus satire''
*''Lying is lying is lying is lying.'' -- ''Bird''
*''It's obvious that your only goal is a massive edit/revert war, an armaggedon-like contest of egos that ultimately creates a firestorm.'' -- ''Mike Church'' after he lists me on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Vandalism_in_progress&diff=0&oldid=3529226 Vandalism in progress] -- a first for me!
--> Why Wikipedia is Great
*Wikipedia:Unusual articles
*[http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1506231 Why an Everything2 editor moves to Wikipedia]
*[http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/001293.html Standing on the Shoulders of Giants] by User:TaranRampersad