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''Ancien Régime'' means ''Old Rule'' or ''Old Order'' in French language; in English language, the term refers primarily to the sociology and politics system established in France under the Valois Dynasty and House of Bourbon dynasties. More generally it means any regime which shares the former's defining features: a feudalism system under the control of a powerful absolute monarchy supported by the doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings and the explicit consent of the Roman Catholic Church, essentially how Europe had been organized since at least the 8th century. The term is from The Age of Enlightenment (first appearing in print in English 1794) and was originally pejorative in nature. Similar to other sweeping criticisms of the past, such as the term Dark Ages, the concept of ''Ancien Régime'' is layered onto the past as an expression of disapproval for the way things were done, and carries an implied approval of a "New Order". No one alive during the Ancien Régime saw themselves as living under an "Old Order". The term was created by Enlightenment era authors to promote a new cause and discredit the existing order, and thus was not, in its origin, a neutral historical descriptor of the past. As defined by the creators of the term, the Ancien Régime developed out of the French monarchy of the France in the Middle Ages, and was swept away centuries later by the French Revolution of 1789. Europe's other ''anciens régimes'' had similar origins, but diverse ends: some gradually became constitutional monarchy, others were torn down by wars and revolutions. The analogous term ''"Antiguo Régimen"'' is often used in Spanish language. However, although Spain was strongly affected by the French Revolution and its aftermath, the break was not as sharp as in France. Power in the Ancien Régime relied on three pillars: the monarchy, the clergy, and the aristocracy. Society was divided into three Estates of the realm: the First Estate, the Roman Catholic clergy; the Second Estate, the nobility; and the Third Estate, the rest of the population. ''See also:'' Old Europe, France under the Ancien Régime French history
There is an obvious distinction between the pre-WWI situation throughout Europe (monarchical) and post-WWI (democratic republican), not just France. What does it have to do with the ''ancien régime''? Plus, numerous countries in Europe right now are ''constitutional'' monarchies. == Elsewhere in Europe == The following was recently and anonymously pasted into the article below the categories and interwikis. Normally, I'd just move it where it belongs, but I don't think it is exacly accurate in the context of this article, so I've moved it here: : Though the term Ancien Regime was coined in France, it wasn't confined to it. In fact it was present in more moderate measures in Spain and Italy, whereas quite strongly in Germany and Eastern Europe, where the Feudal System established itself much later compared to the rest of Europe. In English, I've never seen ''Ancien Régime'' applied to writing about Italy, Germany, or Eastern Europe. Yes, they all had feudal systems, and all of those came to an end at some time, but to the best of my knowledge only Spain had a system that closely resembled that of France. In my view, what would be most relevant to whether this belongs in this article is whether there are significant citations for using this French-language term (or some close cognate, as in the Spanish-language ''Antiguo Régimen'') for talking about these countries. Otherwise, I think this matter just belongs in the article Feudalism, not here. -- User:Jmabel | User talk:Jmabel 02:12, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC) ==Three Pillars== I've never heard of the "three pillars" concept before, although it may be new to me; it seems unusual for a model of society that excludes the largest segment (those who work). Normally, monarchs and aristocrats are part of the second estate: nobility. Is there more information about the "three pillars"? User:Stbalbach 05:49, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC) :"Pillars" here is not a particularly operative word—it is simply being used in the sense of that on which something rests—but the nature of the Ancien Régime was ''precisely'' that power was deemed to come from above, not below. One could make an argument from a more modern perspective that the power of the regime rested, in part, on the more or less passive consent of the governed, but that was certainly not the theory of the time, and the Third Estate becoming conscious of itself as a base of power led rather directly to the demise of the Ancien Régime. (Aside: even then, it was basically the upper stratum of the Third Estate that gained power: there were not exactly a lot of peasants and artisans even in the Republican legislatures.) :The regime's own theory of its sovereignty was that power passed from God to the monarch (and, through him, to the Second Estate) and to the Church (and, through it, to the First Estate). There was no claim to a basis in popular sovereignty and consent of the governed. -- User:Jmabel | User talk:Jmabel 07:10, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
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''Ancien Régime'' means ''Old Rule'' or ''Old Order'' in French language; in English language, the term refers primarily to the sociology and politics system established in France under the Valois Dynasty and House of Bourbon dynasties. More generally it means any regime which shares the former's defining features: a feudalism system under the control of a powerful absolute monarchy supported by the doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings and the explicit consent of the Roman Catholic Church, essentially how Europe had been organized since at least the 8th century. The term is from The Age of Enlightenment (first appearing in print in English 1794) and was originally pejorative in nature. Similar to other sweeping criticisms of the past, such as the term Dark Ages, the concept of ''Ancien Régime'' is layered onto the past as an expression of disapproval for the way things were done, and carries an implied approval of a "New Order". No one alive during the Ancien Régime saw themselves as living under an "Old Order". The term was created by Enlightenment era authors to promote a new cause and discredit the existing order, and thus was not, in its origin, a neutral historical descriptor of the past. As defined by the creators of the term, the Ancien Régime developed out of the French monarchy of the France in the Middle Ages, and was swept away centuries later by the French Revolution of 1789. Europe's other ''anciens régimes'' had similar origins, but diverse ends: some gradually became constitutional monarchy, others were torn down by wars and revolutions. The analogous term ''"Antiguo Régimen"'' is often used in Spanish language. However, although Spain was strongly affected by the French Revolution and its aftermath, the break was not as sharp as in France. Power in the Ancien Régime relied on three pillars: the monarchy, the clergy, and the aristocracy. Society was divided into three Estates of the realm: the First Estate, the Roman Catholic clergy; the Second Estate, the nobility; and the Third Estate, the rest of the population. ''See also:'' Old Europe, France under the Ancien Régime French history
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There is an obvious distinction between the pre-WWI situation throughout Europe (monarchical) and post-WWI (democratic republican), not just France. What does it have to do with the ''ancien régime''? Plus, numerous countries in Europe right now are ''constitutional'' monarchies. == Elsewhere in Europe == The following was recently and anonymously pasted into the article below the categories and interwikis. Normally, I'd just move it where it belongs, but I don't think it is exacly accurate in the context of this article, so I've moved it here: : Though the term Ancien Regime was coined in France, it wasn't confined to it. In fact it was present in more moderate measures in Spain and Italy, whereas quite strongly in Germany and Eastern Europe, where the Feudal System established itself much later compared to the rest of Europe. In English, I've never seen ''Ancien Régime'' applied to writing about Italy, Germany, or Eastern Europe. Yes, they all had feudal systems, and all of those came to an end at some time, but to the best of my knowledge only Spain had a system that closely resembled that of France. In my view, what would be most relevant to whether this belongs in this article is whether there are significant citations for using this French-language term (or some close cognate, as in the Spanish-language ''Antiguo Régimen'') for talking about these countries. Otherwise, I think this matter just belongs in the article Feudalism, not here. -- User:Jmabel | User talk:Jmabel 02:12, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC) ==Three Pillars== I've never heard of the "three pillars" concept before, although it may be new to me; it seems unusual for a model of society that excludes the largest segment (those who work). Normally, monarchs and aristocrats are part of the second estate: nobility. Is there more information about the "three pillars"? User:Stbalbach 05:49, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC) :"Pillars" here is not a particularly operative word—it is simply being used in the sense of that on which something rests—but the nature of the Ancien Régime was ''precisely'' that power was deemed to come from above, not below. One could make an argument from a more modern perspective that the power of the regime rested, in part, on the more or less passive consent of the governed, but that was certainly not the theory of the time, and the Third Estate becoming conscious of itself as a base of power led rather directly to the demise of the Ancien Régime. (Aside: even then, it was basically the upper stratum of the Third Estate that gained power: there were not exactly a lot of peasants and artisans even in the Republican legislatures.) :The regime's own theory of its sovereignty was that power passed from God to the monarch (and, through him, to the Second Estate) and to the Church (and, through it, to the First Estate). There was no claim to a basis in popular sovereignty and consent of the governed. -- User:Jmabel | User talk:Jmabel 07:10, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
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