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Cameo perfume bottle, ca. 30 AD; Found in Estepa, Spain.]] Anal sex or anal intercourse is a commonly practiced human sexual behavior. It involves the anus and rectum, especially, but not limited to, the sexual penetration of the erect penis into the rectum through the anus. The use of sex toys and other activities involving the anus and rectum can be considered anal sex as well. Anal sex can be pleasurable for both the insertive partner and the receptive partner. The anus contains many of the same kinds of nerves as the penis or clitoris. For women, pleasure may also be derived from anal intercourse because the rectum shares a wall with the vagina, and the sexual nerves are actually closer on that side, making the sensation different and sometimes actually stronger. For males, the tightness of the anus is often said to be a source of pleasure in penetrative anal sex, while the presence of the prostate gland near the rectal wall is generally seen as a source of pleasure during receptive anal intercourse. Anal sex remains taboo in some cultures and is illegal in some jurisdictions (see Sodomy law). ==Overview== The terms "sodomy" and "buggery" are imprecise, but are often used as synonyms for anal sex, particularly in older works. While they are sometimes used as synonyms for anal sex, they often also refer to various other sexual activities. For instance, depending upon the jurisdiction, the legal definition of sodomy may include any non-sexual intercourse act, including oral sex and zoophilia. More specific modern slang terms include "ass sex" and "buttsex". Anal sex has been taboo in many Western countries since the Middle Ages, when heresy movements were sometimes slandered by rumors that their members practiced anal sex among themselves. At that time the mainstream Christianity clergy was not celibate, and the highest orders of some heretical sects were, leading to rumors that their celibacy was a sign of their attraction to members of the same sex. The term ''buggery'' originated in medieval Europe as an insult used to describe the rumoured same-sex sexual practices of the heretics from the ''Buggre'' sect. This sect originated in medieval Bulgaria, where its followers were called ''bogomils'', but when they spread out of the country they were called ''buggres'' (from the ethnonym ''Bulgars''). Some medieval woodcuts portray persons kissing the anus of a goat-like figure representing the Devil. As of 2004, several jurisdictions in the United States had statutory prohibitions making anal sex and other forms of sodomy a crime. Many of these statutes purported to prohibit anal sex by same-sex partners. In 2003, John Lawrence and Tyron Garner brought a landmark suit that challenged as unconstitutional Texas's anti-sodomy law before the Supreme Court. Lawrence and Garner had previously been apprehended in Lawrence's home in the act of anal sex, after a neighbor had made a false noise complaint to the local police. The Supreme Court struck down the Texas law by a 6–3 vote. Five of the justices joined the deciding opinion, which also overturned the Court's previous ruling on sodomy in ''Bowers v. Hardwick''. The Court overturned the law on the grounds that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution to the United States Constitution prohibited the state from regulating private behaviors between adults without furthering a legitimate state interest. The government purpose behind the law, a moral objection to homosexuality, was held to not be a legitimate interest. (See ''Lawrence v. Texas''.) Although it is also practiced by heterosexuals, anal sex is often popularly associated with homosexual men. However, like persons of other sexual orientations, some gay men enjoy sexual activities of this kind while others do not. ==Anal sex among heterosexuals== Edward O. Laumann's ''The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States'' found that about 20% of heterosexuals have engaged in anal sex, and sex researcher Alfred Kinsey found that number to be closer to 40%. More recently, a researcher from the University of British Columbia (quoted in the May 5, 2005 issue of ''The Georgia Straight'') puts the number of heterosexuals who regularly practice anal sex at between 30% and 50%. In several cultures (such as the Mediterranean area and Latin America) female receptive anal intercourse in a heterosexual context is widely accepted, especially as there is less risk of unwanted human pregnancy via unprotected anal than unprotected vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is sometimes seen as preserving female virginity (or at least preserving an intact hymen until marriage) [http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Continuum/DissentingViewAnalSex&AIDS.htm]. As a method of birth control, anal intercourse is not a reliable method, as it is still possible for semen to spill into the vagina and result in pregnancy. One appeal of heterosexual anal sex is the fact that the anus is tighter than the vagina. This is often considered to lead to a more pleasurable experience for the man. In many cultures, even those where female receptive anal intercourse is considered normative, male receptive anal intercourse, even in a heterosexual context, is seen as taboo, or as less common. In some cultures anal sex is so commonly linked with homosexuality that any male who engages in receptive anal intercourse is considered homosexual, even if he is pegging (sexual practice) or by himself during masturbation. In some cultures, only males who are penetrated by other males are considered homosexual, while males who penetrate other males are not. In certain contexts male-male anal intercourse among males who otherwise identify as heterosexual is seen as a temporary behaviour to which they resort when confined in single-sex environments, such as prison sexuality. ==Anal sex among gay men and lesbians== Historically, several cultures, such as homosexuality in Japan and others are known to have been normative practitioners of male-male anal intercourse, often in the context of a mentor-student relationship between an adolescent male and an adult man (see pederasty). The males who participated in such relationships cannot properly be called homosexual, however, since in classical cultures such distinctions did not exist, and since participation in these male-male relationships did not preclude sex with women. The practice is thought to have been so common in Ancient Greece that the term "Greek love" was used to refer to the practice, and in modern times, "Greek" is sometimes used as gay slang for anal sex. Some have argued, however, that in Greece, rather than anal sex male-male couples actually engaged in non-penetrative interfemoral intercourse, but this view is widely disputed. In other cultures, notably Japan, records (including detailed woodblock prints) leave no question that male-male couples did engage in penetrative anal intercourse. In modern times, anal sex is popularly associated with gay men, and according to some studies (Lauman, for example) about 80% of gay men in the United States have engaged in anal sex. However, not all gay men regularly engage in anal sex or find it pleasurable: in fact some gay men try anal sex once or a few times and then rarely if ever engage in the practice, and others never try it at all. Among gay men who do practice anal sex, some, though not all, reserve it only for committed relationships. No reliable information is available on the number of gay men (or indeed, heterosexual men) who regularly engage in anal intercourse. While some gay male couples comprise an "active" partner and a "receptive" partner (a top (sex) and a bottom (sex)) this is not true of all gay couples who practice anal sex: though some relationships are structured this way, many gay men who have anal sex both "top" and "bottom" at different times and are called "versatile" or "switch." Gay cultures generally do not make a distinction between the penetrative and the receptive partner: both tops and bottoms who have sex exclusively with men are considered gay. Several slang terms are generally reserved for anal sex between two males, such as barebacking which refers to unprotected anal intercourse. Like some gay men, some lesbians also practice anal sex, but as there is very little information available it is not known how prevalent the practice is among lesbians. Like heterosexuals and gay men, those lesbians who enjoy it practice all forms of anal sex, including penetration. == Health issues == Unprotected anal sex is an effective means of transmitting most sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). In particular, it is the sexual activity which most effectively transmits HIV, which can lead to AIDS. According to health care professionals, condom should always be used for anal intercourse, but they should not be considered an absolute safeguard. In principle, anal sex with anyone known to have a sexually transmissible disease, and indeed with anyone whose disease-negative status has not been determined, should be avoided. This advice applies to all sexual activity. Anal sex does carry some risks to health and comfort even in the absence of STDs. For example, while the vagina secretes its own vaginal lubrication, the anus and rectum do not. The Biological tissues in the rectal area are particularly delicate and susceptible to tearing, thus, artificial lubrication should always be used for anal intercourse. Oil-based lubricants like Petroleum jelly, however, destroy latex condoms, and the two should not be used together. In addition, since the rectal tissues are so easily damaged, and since the anorectal muscles are largely under involuntary control, slow, gentle, and responsive insertion is necessary to avoid pain and tearing. Nothing that has been placed in or at the anus, including fingers, should ever contact the vulva, vagina, or mouth without being thoroughly washed with soap or a similar disinfectant, to avoid infection caused by the transmission of bacterium. Condoms can be placed over sex toys and latex gloves can be worn to protect the hands and fingers. These should be used once and then discarded. It is also very important to be careful when inserting objects into the anus. Objects with edges or points can cause severe injury. Moreover, objects could get lodged in the rectum, requiring medical intervention. For this reason, most modern dildos are made with flared bases. Additionally, nothing longer than eight inches (20 cm) should be inserted into the rectum. Objects exceeding eight inches risk colliding with the sigmoid colon, the lining of which is probably not much stronger than a wet paper towel, and trauma can result in internal bleeding with potentially fatal results. Objects inserted in the anus should be washed carefully after every use. It is dangerous to share sex toys; if a dildo is used on more than one person, it should be covered with a condom which is changed after each use. Silicone and glass dildos may be sterilized via boiling instead. (See masturbation for more information on the use of sex toys.) In females, deeply penetrative anal sex must be attempted with care, because the female upper rectum passes adjacent to the uterus, which can experience physical trauma in cases of vigorous intercourse. Like any form of sex, anal sex is rendered much more dangerous under the influence of alcohol or drugs, which reduce responses, judgment, and ability to pay attention to one's own needs. ==Further reading== *Taormino, Tristan ''Ultimate Guide to Anal Sex for Women'', Cleis Press, 1997. *Morin, Jack ''Anal Pleasure & Health: A Guide for Men and Women'', Down There Press, 1998. *Bentley, Toni ''The Surrender: An Erotic Memoir'', Regan Books, 2004. ==See also== *anal-oral contact *anal masturbation *barebacking *fisting *lithotomy position *Buggery Act (UK) *Sexual_slang#Anal_intercourse *Santorum controversy Anal eroticism
==Referendum== There is a vote being taken on the Talk:Anus page regarding the inclusion of a photograph of an anus, and the appropriateness of sexuality info in that article. User:70.177.90.39 03:07, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Referendum Results Ignored, Admin Blocks Page== This may also be of interest: Check talk:feces. A self-appointed censor admin is suppressing the wishes of the majority of editors, and she is blocking inclusion of a photograph at feces. User:Eyeon 23:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Complaints== I have a couple of complaints about this page, as follows: :in this passage "In the same mentality, women were not officially allowed to find pleasure in sex, therefore sex was only served as a sort of marital prostitution; in this sense, under the sole husband's determination, anal sex was a form of contraception too in the case of couples who already had too many babies, since the ignorance about other methods was total. Similar facts were reported up to a very few decades ago, and it is currently impossible to certify whether this mentality has been totally abandoned or has otherwise been substantially modified." It seems clear to me that a strong opinion is present here. I object to this statement particularly "sex was only served as a sort of marital prostitution" as even in a specific example, I don't see how consummating the act of marriage can be seen as prostitution, even if in some particular it could, it is quite disturbing to label an entire culture as marital prostitutes. Also, I can't see the point of saying "women were not officially allowed to find pleasure in sex", as even if there are laws to this effect (which I doubt) they certainly would not be enforceable, and would thus be irrelevant. and this statement here "Although both men and women might enjoy anal sex, because of this physical difference, men often have an easier time enjoying anal sex." This seems to go far beyond the objective, and rather seems to dwell on some subjective personal musing, not something needed in a encyclopedia entry. If there is some evidence supporting this opinion, please feel free to correct me. Sorry if I came on a bit strong, but while I like this entry overall, I can't stand by on a subject so dear to my heart. ;) (the above is my first talk edit, which I will now sign, long after the fact User:Sam Spade 07:21, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)) ---- ==Deleted much?== I made some edits to this page, and I hope I didn't delete over much. If so, please let me know! It was my first edit, so I would like feedback. thank you :It would be good when you delete large chunks of text that you wrote a reason for doing so. Why did you remove that text? (and welcome to Wikipedia) User:Tristanb 07:44, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC) : I don't know if User:JackLynch which is the editor of the comment above, is the same as User:207.95.173.63 the last contributor to the article. User:Dysprosia 07:51, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC) ::Oh, I should have checked the times better. I haven't really been following the article that closely. The last edit did remove a considerable amount of text, with the only comment ''Anal sex''. User:Tristanb I pretty much removed what I was objecting to when I thought it was off topic, and deleted or changed adjectives and phrases. I hindsight I think I failed to replace enough of it with text, but in my own defense I didn't have a lot more to say, and over all I think this article is well written and thorough. Sorry I didn't sign before, but I didn't know how at the time. User:JackLynch --- ==Sexual surveys== This article needs more reference to sexual surveys discussing the frequency of anal sex among people--and I'm sure all the other sexual practice entries do as well. Unfortunately most of the scientific research, like most other scientific research, is only available offline or for those with subscriptions to the online journals. Here's one site, though: * [http://www.pfizerglobalstudy.com/ Pfizer Global Study of Sexual Attitudes and Behaviors] ---- ==What about straight anal sex?== It doesn't seem NPOV to single out gay men with a heading but not include a heading for straight folks.-User:Hyacinth :Well, in the west, anyhow, anal sex is largely associated with gay men (though all orientations practice it). -- User:Pakaran 23:02, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) ::Needless to say, it isn't NPOV to reinforce the associations or stereotypes made by society. I changed the "Reasons for practice" heading, which is redudant as reasons are discussed throughout the article, such as under the heading "Pleasure" (which, by the way, I think is a hilarious heading).-User:Hyacinth :::Fair enough. Not sure how to change the article though. -- User:Pakaran 23:20, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) ::::Thanks. I think the article is as good or bad as it was before my change, but you are right, it could use some organization. Obviously, things need to be put under the appropriate categories or new ones need to be invented (& the section on "Pleasure" seems more appropriate for a FAQ or Q&A, not an encyclopedia entry).-User:Hyacinth ---- As to the added para on lesbians and anal sex: it conflicts with the intro definition: should mention be made of in the intro that anal sex need not involve penile insertion? Furthermore, Is stuff like rimming considered anal sex? User:Dysprosia 23:38, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) :It might be - even if it isn't "anal intercourse". We already mention use of toys on straight men. I'd say that if lesbians practice vaginal sex (whcih some of them do) then they also practice anal sex (which a smaller proportion do). -- User:Pakaran 23:37, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) :: Ok, I'll make mention of it. User:Dysprosia 23:38, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) ----------------- eunuchs fiddle scores zero on a Google search. What is it? -- User:Karada 14:31, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC) Hah. Google proves its worth again! A eunuchs fiddle was an early (historic) form of vibrator before batteries. It consists of an egg shaped thingummy to stuff up you-know-where, a string attached to it, and a bow to make the string vibrate like the string of a violin. I haven't got any direct reference works at hand to cite, but I have read about it in Playboy magazine among others. It is a piece of historical trivia, rather than something popular currently, so I am not ''totally'' suprised about the lack of hits on google. Anyway, it is real, but I can't write about it authoritatively, or with any significant amount of precise historical detail. The above is pretty much what I remember about it. -- User:Cimon avaro 17:11, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC) == Brilliant prose? == This article has had a consistant bias against female receptive anal sex, which I have been working on eliminating since I began editing the wikipedia (literally, it was my 1st edit). I request any/all who have anything useful to add on this subject to do so, and to assist me in reducing the tendancy for this article to be used as a mouthpeice for a bias or POV (not that I think it was ever intentionally used that way). User:Sam Spade 07:33, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC) ::I'm surprised you see it that way really. What you see as bias -- as I understand it, the fact that there's more on male than female receptive anal sex -- I see as there not being all that much more to say. Would you care to expand? User:Exploding Boy 13:49, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC) I don't think it's bias. It's just a reflection of the simple fact that during female receptive anal sex, men are more likely to orgasm than women. So there's an objective sense in which it's better for the male than for the female. (unsigned comment by 220.253.32.221) :Couldn't the same argument be made about oral sex, or vaginal sex (which many, perhaps most, women are unable to orgasm from alone?) User:PakaranUser talk:Pakaran 21:54, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC) In my opinion, vaginal sex is the most typical source of orgasm for women. As for oral sex, it's pretty obvious who is giving pleasure to whom, and when one person has finished receiving, they can start giving in return. I do not understand why there is anything wrong with making the factual statement that in anal sex the male is more likely to orgasm than the woman. A person who does not know anything about sex would not be aware of that, and I do not understand why it has been edited out. Someone please help me to understand. :Well - I can object here. During anal sex my wife has several orgasms, while I have only one. So if during several minutes she has 3 or 5 orgasms and I have only one, who is "morelikely to orgasm"? == psychological arse shagging == I placed this sentance in the pleasure section "The psychological associations involved in anal intercourse can not be emphasized enough, and as with all sexual practices, the mind functions as the primary sexual organ and basis behind the erotic pleasures." User:Exploding Boy replaced it with this "As with other forms of intercourse, psychological pleasure probably plays a significant role." Frankly, while I distinctly prefer my own wording, both of them are unsatisfactory, and in fact I think the psychological signifigance of anal sex deserves it's own section in the article. Anyone who likes can comment, write their own sentance, sub-section, or whatever. I'd particularly like to hear from explodingboy as to what he disliked about my sentance, and liked better about his own. I suppose I might eventually have to write the afor mentioned subsection myself if nobody beats me to it ;) User:Sam Spade 13:40, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC) ::I wasn't aware that we had to justify all small changes. If you must know I thought the sentence was a little awkward so I tried to make it sound a bit smoother. As I see it I didn't really alter the meaning, though I'm sure there are many who would disagree with your statement that the mind is the "primary sexual organ" (to begin with, physiologically, of course, that's untrue). Be that as it may, if you think there is enough to say about the psychological aspects of anal sex, by all means include a relevant section. I think it may be stretching it a bit to say it warrants an entire section (is there anything similar in other sex-related articles?), but I'll reserve judgement until I see it. Am I to take it your comments on the Featured Article page was directed at me? User:Exploding Boy 13:49, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC) Nope, not unless you've changed your name. I took a glance at the page history, and the stuff I am generally refering to (see my comments at the top of the page) is well before your time on this page (assuming you didn't edit it as an anon). Anyhow, please don't take my objections personally. The goal is to make this an excellent page (perhaps even brilliant prose) rather than anything to do with particular editors. As far as "justifying small changes", you need only do that when someone (as I am doing here) takes issue w them. In this particular case, I am perfectly willing to let the subject digest whilst we we perfect the optimal way to describe the particulars. User:Sam Spade 14:06, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC) ::Oh, ok. Not trying to take things personally, I'm just a bit gunshy at the moment, having been involved in some dispute with another poster. Carry on. User:Exploding Boy 14:08, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC) == musing or research or what? == ' Among gay men who do enjoy anal sex, some reserve it only for committed relationships. ' I think this can be worded/expressed better. It doesn't come across as encyclopedic User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:37, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC) 1. If you think so, go ahead and reword it instead of removing it from the article. 2. Why not, exactly? In the interim, I'm moving the sentence back to the article. User:Exploding Boy 08:41, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC) :Do you have any documentation? And is this common enought to warrant mention? How many is this some. Some isn't very many. Would you say many? How do we know? It doesn't strike me as particularly verifiable. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:54, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC) According to statistics gathered by AIDS organizations many gay men do not have anal sex outside of committed relationships. Will try to find some info if you like. User:Exploding Boy 08:56, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC) :That would be handy because I recently heard the opposite was true, that monogomy was rare amongst male homosexuals, thus asisting a rise in AIDS rates. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 09:05, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC) Well that's a common stereotype but regardless of its veracity monogamy is not the issue. Aside from the fact that not all gay men are into anal sex, gay men are apparently less likely to engage in anal sex during casual encounters for several reasons including: (1) some see anal sex as being the most intimate form of intercourse and they save it for committed relationships, (2) anal sex is high risk for the spread of STDs, and (3) anal sex is just messier and takes longer than oral/mutual masturbation, etc. By the way, monogamy is not really the issue when it comes to rising rates of HIV infection. The issue is largely to do with unprotected sex. User:Exploding Boy 10:11, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC) == Anal sex among homosexuals == I really think this is a better section header than 'Anal sex among gays and lesbians' or whatever. Its simply more accurate, and besides, its shorter and looks better. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 19:39, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC) == [http://www.analsexyes.com/ Anal Sex Yes] == Whats wrong w this external link? I'm open to hearing valid objections, but I'll be returning it to the article if they are not promptly forthcoming. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 21:15, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC) :For one thing the page it links to is rife with links to "hardcore anal sex" and the like. There are better pages out there if we need other links. User:Exploding Boy 06:42, Apr 25, 2004 (UTC) ::I find that particularly unconvincing. Even were you supplying better links,this one seems fine w me. What have the secondary links got to do w it? Your cool w working on the anal sex page, but ''hardcore'' seems out of line as a secondary source external link? User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 06:52, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC) Surprise, surprise. What possible reason is there to provide links to Hardcore Anal Sex Videos, Free Amateur Pics, Free Anal Pics, Free Anal Videos, Hardcore Anal Videos, and Hardcore Hentai Fucking? The page also has a link entitled "How to Eat Ass." If you want to provide an external link, find one that's more suitable. There are hundreds out there. And I personally don't have an issue with those things, nor do I have an issue with sex-related topics, and yes, I've worked on this one and even nominated it as a Featured Article, but what encyclopaedia do you know that provides links to porn videos? PS: one other good reason I've just discovered is that clicking on one of those links on that page will trap you in a thousand-popup nightmare. That alone is reason enough not to use this link. User:Exploding Boy 07:00, Apr 25, 2004 (UTC) :I likewise dislike popups, and find that convincing ;) Its not my link anyways, some anon posted it and I decided to defend it, since I found it benificial. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 07:10, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC) =="homosexuals" over "gays and lesbians"== Why is it that you prefer the term "homosexuals" over "gays and lesbians"? As for your question ("preferred by whom?"), please see the relevant pages on Wikipedia, starting with project:sexuality. User:Exploding Boy 08:13, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC) :I was being rhetorical w the question, I know of course who prefers that usage. Homosexual is shorter, more precise, and less POV. The term "gay" is quite POV, being supportive of what is thus portrayed to be a happy state of sexuality. Homosexual is neutral and specific, and thus more accurate and NPOV. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:29, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC) I think you're confusing non-neutral point of view with facts. We've had this discussion umpteen times: "homosexual" is neither more precise nor neutral nor specific than other terms, and as to it being shorter, that's totally irrelevant. The word "gay" is neutral in part in that it is preferred by those it describes. As to your suggestion that homosexuality may not be "a happy state of sexuality," I'm afraid that the evidence is overwhelmingly against you, as has been demonstrated amply before. The [http://www.psych.org/ American Psychiatric Association] states that All major professional mental health organizations have gone on record to affirm that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association’s Board of Trustees removed homosexuality from its official diagnostic manual, The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Second Edition (DSM II). The action was taken following a review of the scientific literature and consultation with experts in the field. The experts found that homosexuality does not meet the criteria to be considered a mental illness. In 1992, the American Psychiatric Association issued the following statement: Whereas homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgement, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities, the American Psychiatric Association calls on all international health organizations and individual psychiatrists in other countries, to urge the repeal in their own country of legislation that penalized homosexual acts by consenting adults in private. And further the APA calls on these organizations and individuals to do all that is possible to decrease the stigma related to homosexuality wherever and whenever it may occur. According to the APA, For a mental condition to be considered a psychiatric disorder, it must constitute dysfunction within an individual, cause present distress (e.g., a painful symptom), disability (e.g., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning), or a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom. A homosexual or bisexual individual may experience conflict with a homophobic society; however, such conflict is not a symptom of dysfunction in the individual. The APA Board recognized that a significant portion of homosexual and bisexual people were clearly satisfied with their sexual orientation and showed no signs of psychopathology. It was also found that they were able to function effectively in society, and that those who sought treatment most often did so for reasons other than sexual orientation. Those who have integrated their sexual orientation into a positive sense of themselves function at a healthier psychological level than those who have not (all of the above taken from the APA website). So let's finally consider that Point Of View dealt with. User:Exploding Boy 08:51, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC) :I'm a psyche major, and am well aware of the current opinion on the subject, but thank you. I assume you notice the usage of "homosexual" rather than GLTG? User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:58, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC) If you're a psych major you have even less excuse for trying to promote the point of view that gays and lesbians are somehow inherently unhappy. And please don't make me post a bunch of stuff on why "homosexual" is not the preferred term. You should know it already as a psych student and because it's been posted many, many times before (some of them for your benefit). User:Exploding Boy 09:11, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC) :I am going to avoid comment on the above slights, and rather redirect your attentions to my statement above, wherein I point out the POV nature of the term "gay". This term implies happiness. It is not an impartial term. Heterosexual is also an impartial term. "Stud" would not be. It implies a variety of things other than simply "heterosexual", much of them positive, and clearly few if any of them NPOV. "Gay" is similar in this way. ::As to if I think homosexuals are happy or not, my POV isn't technically relevant, but I will humor you. As with all humans, homosexuals are variously happy, but I will tell you very briefly about 2 I have known very well, one happy, and one less so. Both of these gentlemen love and believe in God, and this is the deciding factor in their happiness. One was quite happy, because he believed as I do that it is not for men to judge a mans soul, but rather God who knows our hearts. He was a generally good person, and while as with all people he surely had variations of character, he seemed content in his relationship with God, and his status as a good person. I mention him in the past tense only because I have moved several times since I worked with him in Wisconsin. The other guy is a co-worker of mine right now. He doesn't strike me as very gay at all, altho he is by all accounts homosexual. He is a Pentecostal, from a very strict church. They don't allow members to wear shorts, women to wear makeup, and are generally judgmental. He told me that he feels terrible at church, guilty and ashamed. I told him that I felt his church was excessive in its rigidity, and made a big point of reinforcing to him just what the ONLY unforgivable sin is. Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit. By any account I am aware of (and I have studied religion lifelong with unflinching persistence :) this does not involve homosexuality, gay or otherwise :). Ones relationship with God is the root of true happiness in my eyes, not race, creed, sexuality or other nonessentials. :I pray that was helpful, and I will say in summary that "gay" takes a POV stand, and homosexual does not. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 03:41, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) I interpret neutrality (NPOV) to mean wikipedia may not endorse any one term over others. I wouldn't, then, get rid of any one term, and try to use common terms that mean partially or wholly the same thing selecting the appropriate term for context. User:Hyacinth 06:15, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::My comments were not intended as slights, but I cannot understand your examples at all. They seem only to reinforce the view of the APA that it is not homosexuality itself that is the cause of distress among people of that sexual orientation, but rather the discrimination people suffer at the hands of others. ::'Heterosexual' ''is'' a neutral term in a way that 'homosexual' is not. ''Stud'' can apply equally to gay or straight people and, in some circles, to men or women; it's not an equivalent term to 'gay.' ::Your remarks lead me to believe that you do not have an understanding of the origins of the terms heterosexual, homosexual and gay. User:Exploding Boy 06:33, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC) ==simplification== One thing is certain, you are not understanding me. Lets just focus on the matter at hand. Gay is POV. Homosexual is not. One is clinical, used in your APA example, the other isn't. I was never trying to say gay people are sad, I was trying to say that homosexual is a precise, unbiased clinical term, and "gay" isn't. There can be an article on gay, but it is a different article from homosexual. One is appropriate as an encyclopedia adjective, the other isn't. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 06:39, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) Actually the APA says: "Lesbian and gay male are preferred to the word 'homosexual' when used as an adjective referring to specific persons or groups, and lesbians and gay men are preferred terms over 'homosexuals' used as a noun when referring to specific persons or groups. The word 'homosexual' has several problems of designation. First, it may perpetuate negative stereotypes because of its historical associations with pathology and criminal behavior. Second, it is ambiguous in reference because it is often assumed to refer exclusively to men and thus renders lesbians invisible. Third, it is often unclear." "The terms 'gay male' and 'lesbian' refer primarily to identities and to the modern culture and communities that have developed among people who share those identities. They should be distinguished from sexual behavior. Some men and women have sex with others of their own gender but do not consider themselves to be gay or lesbian. In contrast, the terms 'heterosexual' and 'bisexual' currently are used to describe identity as well as behavior." "The terms 'gay' as an adjective and 'gay persons' as a noun have been used to refer to both males and females. However, these terms may be ambiguous in reference since readers who are used to the term 'lesbian and gay' may assume that 'gay' refers to men only. Thus it is preferable to use 'gay' or 'gay persons' only when prior reference has specified the gender composition of this term." "Such terms as 'gay male' are preferable to 'homosexuality' or 'male homosexuality' and so are grammatical reconstructions (e.g., 'his colleagues knew he was gay' rather than 'his colleagues knew about his homosexuality'). The same is true for 'lesbian' over 'female homosexual', 'female homosexuality', or 'lesbianism.'" "Same-gender behavior, male-male behavior, and female-female behavior are appropriate terms for specific instances of same-gender sexual behavior that people engage in regardless of their sexual orientation (e.g., a married heterosexual man who once had a same-gender sexual encounter). Likewise, it is useful that women and men not be considered 'opposites' (as in 'opposite sex') to avoid polarization, and that heterosexual women and men not be viewed as opposite to lesbians and gay men. Thus, male-female behavior is preferred to the term "opposite sex behavior" in referring to specific instances of other-gender sexual behavior that people engage in regardless of their sexual orientation." "When referring to sexual behavior that cannot be described as heterosexual, gay, lesbian, or bisexual, special care needs to be taken. Descriptions of sexual behavior among animal species should be termed 'male-male sexual behavior" or 'male-female sexual behavior' rather than 'homosexual behavior' or 'heterosexual behavior,' respectively." *''Avoiding Heterosexual Bias in Language'' by Committee on Lesbian and Gay Concern, American Psychological Association - http://www.apastyle.org/sexuality.html :User:Hyacinth 07:50, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::Sam Spade wrote: "Gay is POV. Homosexual is not. One is clinical, used in your APA example, the other isn't. I was never trying to say gay people are sad, I was trying to say that homosexual is a precise, unbiased clinical term, and "gay" isn't." ::Actually, you've got it exactly backwards. Homosexual is the biased, non-NPOV term. It is exactly the clinical nature of the term, which was coined to describe what was considered a pathology, that people object to. Not only that, but it's frequently inaccurate as well. And actually, both terms are imprecise. The point of using neutral terminology is that we allow people to call themselves what they want to be called, and we don't use terms that people object to. User:Exploding Boy 08:09, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC) :::Encyclopedias are not about what people want to be called, but rather what is technically correct. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 19:29, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) If you define technical as "specialist" and "scientific" (as opposed to the colloquial sense of "actually") and exclude all else, then you are not being neutral: *"In particular, the policy does not say that there even is such a thing as objectivity, a "view from nowhere" (in Thomas Nagel's phrase)--such that articles written from that point of view are consequently objectively true. That isn't the policy and it is not our aim! Rather, we employ a different understanding of "neutral" and "unbiased" than many might be used to. The policy is simply that we should characterize disputes rather than engage in them." from NPOV#Objections_and_clarifications One word can't be chosen above all others. User:Hyacinth 20:33, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) See my comments on "oriental." "Homosexual" is not "technically correct" and "gay" is not "techcnically incorrect." User:Exploding Boy 23:48, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC) == Pregnancy == I have sometimes heard rumors and stories about women who become pregnant after anal intercourse, bizarre though it may seem. Frankly, I dont see how such a thing is even ''possible'' given the sheer mechanics of it, but I figured I'd bring it up just to see how people respond. I havent added anything to this affect to the article itself; I thought I'd bring it to discussion first simply because I dont really believe it myself. --User:Oceanhahn 07:07, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC) :I am no expert, but I would assume it is possible for semen to spill during/after anal intercourse, and thus enter the vagina, especially if the woman is face down. This could more easily happen if the woman engages in further sexual activities after anal intercourse. One could imagine the use of a dildo/vibrator would facilitate this. The instrument if insertion does not matter, if for example a guy fingers a girl after masturbating himself, she may get pregnant. I do not think that semen in the rectum can in any way make a woman pregnant directly.--User:MaxMad 09:56, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC) ::I know a horrible joke regarding this, which probably isn't relevant. The punchline is "thats where police officers come from". I don't endorse annoying the police in anyway, btw. User:Sam Spade http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 21:16, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Erm... well... To be honest it seems like my son was born due to such incident. Me and my wife don't remember having any vaginal sex during the conception window. ::Maybe your wife was spending afternoons with the pool boy. User:70.177.90.39 18:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC) :::LOL... User:Raul654 18:38, May 23, 2005 (UTC) ==Removed from article== " However, current studies indicate that anal sex is still the primary sexual outlet for gay men; even with unknown partners. Experts cite this as the reason for the recent steady increase in AIDS cases among the gay community. " I'd like to see some evidence for these claims, in particular that in the first sentence. User:Exploding Boy 18:30, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC) == Unresolved objections == The top of this talk page says: "This article was a featured article candidate with unresolved objections. Please help to resolve these objections so the article can be re-nominated and featured." Here are a few things this article would need, in my opinion, before it reached "featured article" status. #Images. All featured articles have appropriate and informative pictures. I've heard it rumored that one can find images relating to this topic on the internet, though I wouldn't know, myself. #External links. There might possibly be a site or two devoted to this topic on the internet. User:Quadell – User:Quadell (User_talk:Quadell) (User:Quadell/Request for assistance)
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Cameo perfume bottle, ca. 30 AD; Found in Estepa, Spain.]] Anal sex or anal intercourse is a commonly practiced human sexual behavior. It involves the anus and rectum, especially, but not limited to, the sexual penetration of the erect penis into the rectum through the anus. The use of sex toys and other activities involving the anus and rectum can be considered anal sex as well. Anal sex can be pleasurable for both the insertive partner and the receptive partner. The anus contains many of the same kinds of nerves as the penis or clitoris. For women, pleasure may also be derived from anal intercourse because the rectum shares a wall with the vagina, and the sexual nerves are actually closer on that side, making the sensation different and sometimes actually stronger. For males, the tightness of the anus is often said to be a source of pleasure in penetrative anal sex, while the presence of the prostate gland near the rectal wall is generally seen as a source of pleasure during receptive anal intercourse. Anal sex remains taboo in some cultures and is illegal in some jurisdictions (see Sodomy law). ==Overview== The terms "sodomy" and "buggery" are imprecise, but are often used as synonyms for anal sex, particularly in older works. While they are sometimes used as synonyms for anal sex, they often also refer to various other sexual activities. For instance, depending upon the jurisdiction, the legal definition of sodomy may include any non-sexual intercourse act, including oral sex and zoophilia. More specific modern slang terms include "ass sex" and "buttsex". Anal sex has been taboo in many Western countries since the Middle Ages, when heresy movements were sometimes slandered by rumors that their members practiced anal sex among themselves. At that time the mainstream Christianity clergy was not celibate, and the highest orders of some heretical sects were, leading to rumors that their celibacy was a sign of their attraction to members of the same sex. The term ''buggery'' originated in medieval Europe as an insult used to describe the rumoured same-sex sexual practices of the heretics from the ''Buggre'' sect. This sect originated in medieval Bulgaria, where its followers were called ''bogomils'', but when they spread out of the country they were called ''buggres'' (from the ethnonym ''Bulgars''). Some medieval woodcuts portray persons kissing the anus of a goat-like figure representing the Devil. As of 2004, several jurisdictions in the United States had statutory prohibitions making anal sex and other forms of sodomy a crime. Many of these statutes purported to prohibit anal sex by same-sex partners. In 2003, John Lawrence and Tyron Garner brought a landmark suit that challenged as unconstitutional Texas's anti-sodomy law before the Supreme Court. Lawrence and Garner had previously been apprehended in Lawrence's home in the act of anal sex, after a neighbor had made a false noise complaint to the local police. The Supreme Court struck down the Texas law by a 6–3 vote. Five of the justices joined the deciding opinion, which also overturned the Court's previous ruling on sodomy in ''Bowers v. Hardwick''. The Court overturned the law on the grounds that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution to the United States Constitution prohibited the state from regulating private behaviors between adults without furthering a legitimate state interest. The government purpose behind the law, a moral objection to homosexuality, was held to not be a legitimate interest. (See ''Lawrence v. Texas''.) Although it is also practiced by heterosexuals, anal sex is often popularly associated with homosexual men. However, like persons of other sexual orientations, some gay men enjoy sexual activities of this kind while others do not. ==Anal sex among heterosexuals== Edward O. Laumann's ''The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States'' found that about 20% of heterosexuals have engaged in anal sex, and sex researcher Alfred Kinsey found that number to be closer to 40%. More recently, a researcher from the University of British Columbia (quoted in the May 5, 2005 issue of ''The Georgia Straight'') puts the number of heterosexuals who regularly practice anal sex at between 30% and 50%. In several cultures (such as the Mediterranean area and Latin America) female receptive anal intercourse in a heterosexual context is widely accepted, especially as there is less risk of unwanted human pregnancy via unprotected anal than unprotected vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is sometimes seen as preserving female virginity (or at least preserving an intact hymen until marriage) [http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Continuum/DissentingViewAnalSex&AIDS.htm]. As a method of birth control, anal intercourse is not a reliable method, as it is still possible for semen to spill into the vagina and result in pregnancy. One appeal of heterosexual anal sex is the fact that the anus is tighter than the vagina. This is often considered to lead to a more pleasurable experience for the man. In many cultures, even those where female receptive anal intercourse is considered normative, male receptive anal intercourse, even in a heterosexual context, is seen as taboo, or as less common. In some cultures anal sex is so commonly linked with homosexuality that any male who engages in receptive anal intercourse is considered homosexual, even if he is pegging (sexual practice) or by himself during masturbation. In some cultures, only males who are penetrated by other males are considered homosexual, while males who penetrate other males are not. In certain contexts male-male anal intercourse among males who otherwise identify as heterosexual is seen as a temporary behaviour to which they resort when confined in single-sex environments, such as prison sexuality. ==Anal sex among gay men and lesbians== Historically, several cultures, such as homosexuality in Japan and others are known to have been normative practitioners of male-male anal intercourse, often in the context of a mentor-student relationship between an adolescent male and an adult man (see pederasty). The males who participated in such relationships cannot properly be called homosexual, however, since in classical cultures such distinctions did not exist, and since participation in these male-male relationships did not preclude sex with women. The practice is thought to have been so common in Ancient Greece that the term "Greek love" was used to refer to the practice, and in modern times, "Greek" is sometimes used as gay slang for anal sex. Some have argued, however, that in Greece, rather than anal sex male-male couples actually engaged in non-penetrative interfemoral intercourse, but this view is widely disputed. In other cultures, notably Japan, records (including detailed woodblock prints) leave no question that male-male couples did engage in penetrative anal intercourse. In modern times, anal sex is popularly associated with gay men, and according to some studies (Lauman, for example) about 80% of gay men in the United States have engaged in anal sex. However, not all gay men regularly engage in anal sex or find it pleasurable: in fact some gay men try anal sex once or a few times and then rarely if ever engage in the practice, and others never try it at all. Among gay men who do practice anal sex, some, though not all, reserve it only for committed relationships. No reliable information is available on the number of gay men (or indeed, heterosexual men) who regularly engage in anal intercourse. While some gay male couples comprise an "active" partner and a "receptive" partner (a top (sex) and a bottom (sex)) this is not true of all gay couples who practice anal sex: though some relationships are structured this way, many gay men who have anal sex both "top" and "bottom" at different times and are called "versatile" or "switch." Gay cultures generally do not make a distinction between the penetrative and the receptive partner: both tops and bottoms who have sex exclusively with men are considered gay. Several slang terms are generally reserved for anal sex between two males, such as barebacking which refers to unprotected anal intercourse. Like some gay men, some lesbians also practice anal sex, but as there is very little information available it is not known how prevalent the practice is among lesbians. Like heterosexuals and gay men, those lesbians who enjoy it practice all forms of anal sex, including penetration. == Health issues == Unprotected anal sex is an effective means of transmitting most sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). In particular, it is the sexual activity which most effectively transmits HIV, which can lead to AIDS. According to health care professionals, condom should always be used for anal intercourse, but they should not be considered an absolute safeguard. In principle, anal sex with anyone known to have a sexually transmissible disease, and indeed with anyone whose disease-negative status has not been determined, should be avoided. This advice applies to all sexual activity. Anal sex does carry some risks to health and comfort even in the absence of STDs. For example, while the vagina secretes its own vaginal lubrication, the anus and rectum do not. The Biological tissues in the rectal area are particularly delicate and susceptible to tearing, thus, artificial lubrication should always be used for anal intercourse. Oil-based lubricants like Petroleum jelly, however, destroy latex condoms, and the two should not be used together. In addition, since the rectal tissues are so easily damaged, and since the anorectal muscles are largely under involuntary control, slow, gentle, and responsive insertion is necessary to avoid pain and tearing. Nothing that has been placed in or at the anus, including fingers, should ever contact the vulva, vagina, or mouth without being thoroughly washed with soap or a similar disinfectant, to avoid infection caused by the transmission of bacterium. Condoms can be placed over sex toys and latex gloves can be worn to protect the hands and fingers. These should be used once and then discarded. It is also very important to be careful when inserting objects into the anus. Objects with edges or points can cause severe injury. Moreover, objects could get lodged in the rectum, requiring medical intervention. For this reason, most modern dildos are made with flared bases. Additionally, nothing longer than eight inches (20 cm) should be inserted into the rectum. Objects exceeding eight inches risk colliding with the sigmoid colon, the lining of which is probably not much stronger than a wet paper towel, and trauma can result in internal bleeding with potentially fatal results. Objects inserted in the anus should be washed carefully after every use. It is dangerous to share sex toys; if a dildo is used on more than one person, it should be covered with a condom which is changed after each use. Silicone and glass dildos may be sterilized via boiling instead. (See masturbation for more information on the use of sex toys.) In females, deeply penetrative anal sex must be attempted with care, because the female upper rectum passes adjacent to the uterus, which can experience physical trauma in cases of vigorous intercourse. Like any form of sex, anal sex is rendered much more dangerous under the influence of alcohol or drugs, which reduce responses, judgment, and ability to pay attention to one's own needs. ==Further reading== *Taormino, Tristan ''Ultimate Guide to Anal Sex for Women'', Cleis Press, 1997. *Morin, Jack ''Anal Pleasure & Health: A Guide for Men and Women'', Down There Press, 1998. *Bentley, Toni ''The Surrender: An Erotic Memoir'', Regan Books, 2004. ==See also== *anal-oral contact *anal masturbation *barebacking *fisting *lithotomy position *Buggery Act (UK) *Sexual_slang#Anal_intercourse *Santorum controversy Anal eroticism
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==Referendum== There is a vote being taken on the Talk:Anus page regarding the inclusion of a photograph of an anus, and the appropriateness of sexuality info in that article. User:70.177.90.39 03:07, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Referendum Results Ignored, Admin Blocks Page== This may also be of interest: Check talk:feces. A self-appointed censor admin is suppressing the wishes of the majority of editors, and she is blocking inclusion of a photograph at feces. User:Eyeon 23:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) ==Complaints== I have a couple of complaints about this page, as follows: :in this passage "In the same mentality, women were not officially allowed to find pleasure in sex, therefore sex was only served as a sort of marital prostitution; in this sense, under the sole husband's determination, anal sex was a form of contraception too in the case of couples who already had too many babies, since the ignorance about other methods was total. Similar facts were reported up to a very few decades ago, and it is currently impossible to certify whether this mentality has been totally abandoned or has otherwise been substantially modified." It seems clear to me that a strong opinion is present here. I object to this statement particularly "sex was only served as a sort of marital prostitution" as even in a specific example, I don't see how consummating the act of marriage can be seen as prostitution, even if in some particular it could, it is quite disturbing to label an entire culture as marital prostitutes. Also, I can't see the point of saying "women were not officially allowed to find pleasure in sex", as even if there are laws to this effect (which I doubt) they certainly would not be enforceable, and would thus be irrelevant. and this statement here "Although both men and women might enjoy anal sex, because of this physical difference, men often have an easier time enjoying anal sex." This seems to go far beyond the objective, and rather seems to dwell on some subjective personal musing, not something needed in a encyclopedia entry. If there is some evidence supporting this opinion, please feel free to correct me. Sorry if I came on a bit strong, but while I like this entry overall, I can't stand by on a subject so dear to my heart. ;) (the above is my first talk edit, which I will now sign, long after the fact User:Sam Spade 07:21, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)) ---- ==Deleted much?== I made some edits to this page, and I hope I didn't delete over much. If so, please let me know! It was my first edit, so I would like feedback. thank you :It would be good when you delete large chunks of text that you wrote a reason for doing so. Why did you remove that text? (and welcome to Wikipedia) User:Tristanb 07:44, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC) : I don't know if User:JackLynch which is the editor of the comment above, is the same as User:207.95.173.63 the last contributor to the article. User:Dysprosia 07:51, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC) ::Oh, I should have checked the times better. I haven't really been following the article that closely. The last edit did remove a considerable amount of text, with the only comment ''Anal sex''. User:Tristanb I pretty much removed what I was objecting to when I thought it was off topic, and deleted or changed adjectives and phrases. I hindsight I think I failed to replace enough of it with text, but in my own defense I didn't have a lot more to say, and over all I think this article is well written and thorough. Sorry I didn't sign before, but I didn't know how at the time. User:JackLynch --- ==Sexual surveys== This article needs more reference to sexual surveys discussing the frequency of anal sex among people--and I'm sure all the other sexual practice entries do as well. Unfortunately most of the scientific research, like most other scientific research, is only available offline or for those with subscriptions to the online journals. Here's one site, though: * [http://www.pfizerglobalstudy.com/ Pfizer Global Study of Sexual Attitudes and Behaviors] ---- ==What about straight anal sex?== It doesn't seem NPOV to single out gay men with a heading but not include a heading for straight folks.-User:Hyacinth :Well, in the west, anyhow, anal sex is largely associated with gay men (though all orientations practice it). -- User:Pakaran 23:02, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) ::Needless to say, it isn't NPOV to reinforce the associations or stereotypes made by society. I changed the "Reasons for practice" heading, which is redudant as reasons are discussed throughout the article, such as under the heading "Pleasure" (which, by the way, I think is a hilarious heading).-User:Hyacinth :::Fair enough. Not sure how to change the article though. -- User:Pakaran 23:20, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) ::::Thanks. I think the article is as good or bad as it was before my change, but you are right, it could use some organization. Obviously, things need to be put under the appropriate categories or new ones need to be invented (& the section on "Pleasure" seems more appropriate for a FAQ or Q&A, not an encyclopedia entry).-User:Hyacinth ---- As to the added para on lesbians and anal sex: it conflicts with the intro definition: should mention be made of in the intro that anal sex need not involve penile insertion? Furthermore, Is stuff like rimming considered anal sex? User:Dysprosia 23:38, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) :It might be - even if it isn't "anal intercourse". We already mention use of toys on straight men. I'd say that if lesbians practice vaginal sex (whcih some of them do) then they also practice anal sex (which a smaller proportion do). -- User:Pakaran 23:37, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) :: Ok, I'll make mention of it. User:Dysprosia 23:38, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC) ----------------- eunuchs fiddle scores zero on a Google search. What is it? -- User:Karada 14:31, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC) Hah. Google proves its worth again! A eunuchs fiddle was an early (historic) form of vibrator before batteries. It consists of an egg shaped thingummy to stuff up you-know-where, a string attached to it, and a bow to make the string vibrate like the string of a violin. I haven't got any direct reference works at hand to cite, but I have read about it in Playboy magazine among others. It is a piece of historical trivia, rather than something popular currently, so I am not ''totally'' suprised about the lack of hits on google. Anyway, it is real, but I can't write about it authoritatively, or with any significant amount of precise historical detail. The above is pretty much what I remember about it. -- User:Cimon avaro 17:11, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC) == Brilliant prose? == This article has had a consistant bias against female receptive anal sex, which I have been working on eliminating since I began editing the wikipedia (literally, it was my 1st edit). I request any/all who have anything useful to add on this subject to do so, and to assist me in reducing the tendancy for this article to be used as a mouthpeice for a bias or POV (not that I think it was ever intentionally used that way). User:Sam Spade 07:33, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC) ::I'm surprised you see it that way really. What you see as bias -- as I understand it, the fact that there's more on male than female receptive anal sex -- I see as there not being all that much more to say. Would you care to expand? User:Exploding Boy 13:49, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC) I don't think it's bias. It's just a reflection of the simple fact that during female receptive anal sex, men are more likely to orgasm than women. So there's an objective sense in which it's better for the male than for the female. (unsigned comment by 220.253.32.221) :Couldn't the same argument be made about oral sex, or vaginal sex (which many, perhaps most, women are unable to orgasm from alone?) User:PakaranUser talk:Pakaran 21:54, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC) In my opinion, vaginal sex is the most typical source of orgasm for women. As for oral sex, it's pretty obvious who is giving pleasure to whom, and when one person has finished receiving, they can start giving in return. I do not understand why there is anything wrong with making the factual statement that in anal sex the male is more likely to orgasm than the woman. A person who does not know anything about sex would not be aware of that, and I do not understand why it has been edited out. Someone please help me to understand. :Well - I can object here. During anal sex my wife has several orgasms, while I have only one. So if during several minutes she has 3 or 5 orgasms and I have only one, who is "morelikely to orgasm"? == psychological arse shagging == I placed this sentance in the pleasure section "The psychological associations involved in anal intercourse can not be emphasized enough, and as with all sexual practices, the mind functions as the primary sexual organ and basis behind the erotic pleasures." User:Exploding Boy replaced it with this "As with other forms of intercourse, psychological pleasure probably plays a significant role." Frankly, while I distinctly prefer my own wording, both of them are unsatisfactory, and in fact I think the psychological signifigance of anal sex deserves it's own section in the article. Anyone who likes can comment, write their own sentance, sub-section, or whatever. I'd particularly like to hear from explodingboy as to what he disliked about my sentance, and liked better about his own. I suppose I might eventually have to write the afor mentioned subsection myself if nobody beats me to it ;) User:Sam Spade 13:40, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC) ::I wasn't aware that we had to justify all small changes. If you must know I thought the sentence was a little awkward so I tried to make it sound a bit smoother. As I see it I didn't really alter the meaning, though I'm sure there are many who would disagree with your statement that the mind is the "primary sexual organ" (to begin with, physiologically, of course, that's untrue). Be that as it may, if you think there is enough to say about the psychological aspects of anal sex, by all means include a relevant section. I think it may be stretching it a bit to say it warrants an entire section (is there anything similar in other sex-related articles?), but I'll reserve judgement until I see it. Am I to take it your comments on the Featured Article page was directed at me? User:Exploding Boy 13:49, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC) Nope, not unless you've changed your name. I took a glance at the page history, and the stuff I am generally refering to (see my comments at the top of the page) is well before your time on this page (assuming you didn't edit it as an anon). Anyhow, please don't take my objections personally. The goal is to make this an excellent page (perhaps even brilliant prose) rather than anything to do with particular editors. As far as "justifying small changes", you need only do that when someone (as I am doing here) takes issue w them. In this particular case, I am perfectly willing to let the subject digest whilst we we perfect the optimal way to describe the particulars. User:Sam Spade 14:06, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC) ::Oh, ok. Not trying to take things personally, I'm just a bit gunshy at the moment, having been involved in some dispute with another poster. Carry on. User:Exploding Boy 14:08, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC) == musing or research or what? == ' Among gay men who do enjoy anal sex, some reserve it only for committed relationships. ' I think this can be worded/expressed better. It doesn't come across as encyclopedic User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:37, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC) 1. If you think so, go ahead and reword it instead of removing it from the article. 2. Why not, exactly? In the interim, I'm moving the sentence back to the article. User:Exploding Boy 08:41, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC) :Do you have any documentation? And is this common enought to warrant mention? How many is this some. Some isn't very many. Would you say many? How do we know? It doesn't strike me as particularly verifiable. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:54, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC) According to statistics gathered by AIDS organizations many gay men do not have anal sex outside of committed relationships. Will try to find some info if you like. User:Exploding Boy 08:56, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC) :That would be handy because I recently heard the opposite was true, that monogomy was rare amongst male homosexuals, thus asisting a rise in AIDS rates. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 09:05, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC) Well that's a common stereotype but regardless of its veracity monogamy is not the issue. Aside from the fact that not all gay men are into anal sex, gay men are apparently less likely to engage in anal sex during casual encounters for several reasons including: (1) some see anal sex as being the most intimate form of intercourse and they save it for committed relationships, (2) anal sex is high risk for the spread of STDs, and (3) anal sex is just messier and takes longer than oral/mutual masturbation, etc. By the way, monogamy is not really the issue when it comes to rising rates of HIV infection. The issue is largely to do with unprotected sex. User:Exploding Boy 10:11, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC) == Anal sex among homosexuals == I really think this is a better section header than 'Anal sex among gays and lesbians' or whatever. Its simply more accurate, and besides, its shorter and looks better. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 19:39, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC) == [http://www.analsexyes.com/ Anal Sex Yes] == Whats wrong w this external link? I'm open to hearing valid objections, but I'll be returning it to the article if they are not promptly forthcoming. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 21:15, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC) :For one thing the page it links to is rife with links to "hardcore anal sex" and the like. There are better pages out there if we need other links. User:Exploding Boy 06:42, Apr 25, 2004 (UTC) ::I find that particularly unconvincing. Even were you supplying better links,this one seems fine w me. What have the secondary links got to do w it? Your cool w working on the anal sex page, but ''hardcore'' seems out of line as a secondary source external link? User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 06:52, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC) Surprise, surprise. What possible reason is there to provide links to Hardcore Anal Sex Videos, Free Amateur Pics, Free Anal Pics, Free Anal Videos, Hardcore Anal Videos, and Hardcore Hentai Fucking? The page also has a link entitled "How to Eat Ass." If you want to provide an external link, find one that's more suitable. There are hundreds out there. And I personally don't have an issue with those things, nor do I have an issue with sex-related topics, and yes, I've worked on this one and even nominated it as a Featured Article, but what encyclopaedia do you know that provides links to porn videos? PS: one other good reason I've just discovered is that clicking on one of those links on that page will trap you in a thousand-popup nightmare. That alone is reason enough not to use this link. User:Exploding Boy 07:00, Apr 25, 2004 (UTC) :I likewise dislike popups, and find that convincing ;) Its not my link anyways, some anon posted it and I decided to defend it, since I found it benificial. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 07:10, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC) =="homosexuals" over "gays and lesbians"== Why is it that you prefer the term "homosexuals" over "gays and lesbians"? As for your question ("preferred by whom?"), please see the relevant pages on Wikipedia, starting with project:sexuality. User:Exploding Boy 08:13, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC) :I was being rhetorical w the question, I know of course who prefers that usage. Homosexual is shorter, more precise, and less POV. The term "gay" is quite POV, being supportive of what is thus portrayed to be a happy state of sexuality. Homosexual is neutral and specific, and thus more accurate and NPOV. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:29, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC) I think you're confusing non-neutral point of view with facts. We've had this discussion umpteen times: "homosexual" is neither more precise nor neutral nor specific than other terms, and as to it being shorter, that's totally irrelevant. The word "gay" is neutral in part in that it is preferred by those it describes. As to your suggestion that homosexuality may not be "a happy state of sexuality," I'm afraid that the evidence is overwhelmingly against you, as has been demonstrated amply before. The [http://www.psych.org/ American Psychiatric Association] states that All major professional mental health organizations have gone on record to affirm that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association’s Board of Trustees removed homosexuality from its official diagnostic manual, The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Second Edition (DSM II). The action was taken following a review of the scientific literature and consultation with experts in the field. The experts found that homosexuality does not meet the criteria to be considered a mental illness. In 1992, the American Psychiatric Association issued the following statement: Whereas homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgement, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities, the American Psychiatric Association calls on all international health organizations and individual psychiatrists in other countries, to urge the repeal in their own country of legislation that penalized homosexual acts by consenting adults in private. And further the APA calls on these organizations and individuals to do all that is possible to decrease the stigma related to homosexuality wherever and whenever it may occur. According to the APA, For a mental condition to be considered a psychiatric disorder, it must constitute dysfunction within an individual, cause present distress (e.g., a painful symptom), disability (e.g., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning), or a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom. A homosexual or bisexual individual may experience conflict with a homophobic society; however, such conflict is not a symptom of dysfunction in the individual. The APA Board recognized that a significant portion of homosexual and bisexual people were clearly satisfied with their sexual orientation and showed no signs of psychopathology. It was also found that they were able to function effectively in society, and that those who sought treatment most often did so for reasons other than sexual orientation. Those who have integrated their sexual orientation into a positive sense of themselves function at a healthier psychological level than those who have not (all of the above taken from the APA website). So let's finally consider that Point Of View dealt with. User:Exploding Boy 08:51, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC) :I'm a psyche major, and am well aware of the current opinion on the subject, but thank you. I assume you notice the usage of "homosexual" rather than GLTG? User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 08:58, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC) If you're a psych major you have even less excuse for trying to promote the point of view that gays and lesbians are somehow inherently unhappy. And please don't make me post a bunch of stuff on why "homosexual" is not the preferred term. You should know it already as a psych student and because it's been posted many, many times before (some of them for your benefit). User:Exploding Boy 09:11, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC) :I am going to avoid comment on the above slights, and rather redirect your attentions to my statement above, wherein I point out the POV nature of the term "gay". This term implies happiness. It is not an impartial term. Heterosexual is also an impartial term. "Stud" would not be. It implies a variety of things other than simply "heterosexual", much of them positive, and clearly few if any of them NPOV. "Gay" is similar in this way. ::As to if I think homosexuals are happy or not, my POV isn't technically relevant, but I will humor you. As with all humans, homosexuals are variously happy, but I will tell you very briefly about 2 I have known very well, one happy, and one less so. Both of these gentlemen love and believe in God, and this is the deciding factor in their happiness. One was quite happy, because he believed as I do that it is not for men to judge a mans soul, but rather God who knows our hearts. He was a generally good person, and while as with all people he surely had variations of character, he seemed content in his relationship with God, and his status as a good person. I mention him in the past tense only because I have moved several times since I worked with him in Wisconsin. The other guy is a co-worker of mine right now. He doesn't strike me as very gay at all, altho he is by all accounts homosexual. He is a Pentecostal, from a very strict church. They don't allow members to wear shorts, women to wear makeup, and are generally judgmental. He told me that he feels terrible at church, guilty and ashamed. I told him that I felt his church was excessive in its rigidity, and made a big point of reinforcing to him just what the ONLY unforgivable sin is. Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit. By any account I am aware of (and I have studied religion lifelong with unflinching persistence :) this does not involve homosexuality, gay or otherwise :). Ones relationship with God is the root of true happiness in my eyes, not race, creed, sexuality or other nonessentials. :I pray that was helpful, and I will say in summary that "gay" takes a POV stand, and homosexual does not. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 03:41, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) I interpret neutrality (NPOV) to mean wikipedia may not endorse any one term over others. I wouldn't, then, get rid of any one term, and try to use common terms that mean partially or wholly the same thing selecting the appropriate term for context. User:Hyacinth 06:15, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::My comments were not intended as slights, but I cannot understand your examples at all. They seem only to reinforce the view of the APA that it is not homosexuality itself that is the cause of distress among people of that sexual orientation, but rather the discrimination people suffer at the hands of others. ::'Heterosexual' ''is'' a neutral term in a way that 'homosexual' is not. ''Stud'' can apply equally to gay or straight people and, in some circles, to men or women; it's not an equivalent term to 'gay.' ::Your remarks lead me to believe that you do not have an understanding of the origins of the terms heterosexual, homosexual and gay. User:Exploding Boy 06:33, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC) ==simplification== One thing is certain, you are not understanding me. Lets just focus on the matter at hand. Gay is POV. Homosexual is not. One is clinical, used in your APA example, the other isn't. I was never trying to say gay people are sad, I was trying to say that homosexual is a precise, unbiased clinical term, and "gay" isn't. There can be an article on gay, but it is a different article from homosexual. One is appropriate as an encyclopedia adjective, the other isn't. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 06:39, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) Actually the APA says: "Lesbian and gay male are preferred to the word 'homosexual' when used as an adjective referring to specific persons or groups, and lesbians and gay men are preferred terms over 'homosexuals' used as a noun when referring to specific persons or groups. The word 'homosexual' has several problems of designation. First, it may perpetuate negative stereotypes because of its historical associations with pathology and criminal behavior. Second, it is ambiguous in reference because it is often assumed to refer exclusively to men and thus renders lesbians invisible. Third, it is often unclear." "The terms 'gay male' and 'lesbian' refer primarily to identities and to the modern culture and communities that have developed among people who share those identities. They should be distinguished from sexual behavior. Some men and women have sex with others of their own gender but do not consider themselves to be gay or lesbian. In contrast, the terms 'heterosexual' and 'bisexual' currently are used to describe identity as well as behavior." "The terms 'gay' as an adjective and 'gay persons' as a noun have been used to refer to both males and females. However, these terms may be ambiguous in reference since readers who are used to the term 'lesbian and gay' may assume that 'gay' refers to men only. Thus it is preferable to use 'gay' or 'gay persons' only when prior reference has specified the gender composition of this term." "Such terms as 'gay male' are preferable to 'homosexuality' or 'male homosexuality' and so are grammatical reconstructions (e.g., 'his colleagues knew he was gay' rather than 'his colleagues knew about his homosexuality'). The same is true for 'lesbian' over 'female homosexual', 'female homosexuality', or 'lesbianism.'" "Same-gender behavior, male-male behavior, and female-female behavior are appropriate terms for specific instances of same-gender sexual behavior that people engage in regardless of their sexual orientation (e.g., a married heterosexual man who once had a same-gender sexual encounter). Likewise, it is useful that women and men not be considered 'opposites' (as in 'opposite sex') to avoid polarization, and that heterosexual women and men not be viewed as opposite to lesbians and gay men. Thus, male-female behavior is preferred to the term "opposite sex behavior" in referring to specific instances of other-gender sexual behavior that people engage in regardless of their sexual orientation." "When referring to sexual behavior that cannot be described as heterosexual, gay, lesbian, or bisexual, special care needs to be taken. Descriptions of sexual behavior among animal species should be termed 'male-male sexual behavior" or 'male-female sexual behavior' rather than 'homosexual behavior' or 'heterosexual behavior,' respectively." *''Avoiding Heterosexual Bias in Language'' by Committee on Lesbian and Gay Concern, American Psychological Association - http://www.apastyle.org/sexuality.html :User:Hyacinth 07:50, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) ::Sam Spade wrote: "Gay is POV. Homosexual is not. One is clinical, used in your APA example, the other isn't. I was never trying to say gay people are sad, I was trying to say that homosexual is a precise, unbiased clinical term, and "gay" isn't." ::Actually, you've got it exactly backwards. Homosexual is the biased, non-NPOV term. It is exactly the clinical nature of the term, which was coined to describe what was considered a pathology, that people object to. Not only that, but it's frequently inaccurate as well. And actually, both terms are imprecise. The point of using neutral terminology is that we allow people to call themselves what they want to be called, and we don't use terms that people object to. User:Exploding Boy 08:09, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC) :::Encyclopedias are not about what people want to be called, but rather what is technically correct. User:Sam Spade User talk:Sam Spade 19:29, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) If you define technical as "specialist" and "scientific" (as opposed to the colloquial sense of "actually") and exclude all else, then you are not being neutral: *"In particular, the policy does not say that there even is such a thing as objectivity, a "view from nowhere" (in Thomas Nagel's phrase)--such that articles written from that point of view are consequently objectively true. That isn't the policy and it is not our aim! Rather, we employ a different understanding of "neutral" and "unbiased" than many might be used to. The policy is simply that we should characterize disputes rather than engage in them." from NPOV#Objections_and_clarifications One word can't be chosen above all others. User:Hyacinth 20:33, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC) See my comments on "oriental." "Homosexual" is not "technically correct" and "gay" is not "techcnically incorrect." User:Exploding Boy 23:48, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC) == Pregnancy == I have sometimes heard rumors and stories about women who become pregnant after anal intercourse, bizarre though it may seem. Frankly, I dont see how such a thing is even ''possible'' given the sheer mechanics of it, but I figured I'd bring it up just to see how people respond. I havent added anything to this affect to the article itself; I thought I'd bring it to discussion first simply because I dont really believe it myself. --User:Oceanhahn 07:07, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC) :I am no expert, but I would assume it is possible for semen to spill during/after anal intercourse, and thus enter the vagina, especially if the woman is face down. This could more easily happen if the woman engages in further sexual activities after anal intercourse. One could imagine the use of a dildo/vibrator would facilitate this. The instrument if insertion does not matter, if for example a guy fingers a girl after masturbating himself, she may get pregnant. I do not think that semen in the rectum can in any way make a woman pregnant directly.--User:MaxMad 09:56, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC) ::I know a horrible joke regarding this, which probably isn't relevant. The punchline is "thats where police officers come from". I don't endorse annoying the police in anyway, btw. User:Sam Spade http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Sam_Spade&action=edit§ion=new Spade 21:16, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) :Erm... well... To be honest it seems like my son was born due to such incident. Me and my wife don't remember having any vaginal sex during the conception window. ::Maybe your wife was spending afternoons with the pool boy. User:70.177.90.39 18:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC) :::LOL... User:Raul654 18:38, May 23, 2005 (UTC) ==Removed from article== " However, current studies indicate that anal sex is still the primary sexual outlet for gay men; even with unknown partners. Experts cite this as the reason for the recent steady increase in AIDS cases among the gay community. " I'd like to see some evidence for these claims, in particular that in the first sentence. User:Exploding Boy 18:30, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC) == Unresolved objections == The top of this talk page says: "This article was a featured article candidate with unresolved objections. Please help to resolve these objections so the article can be re-nominated and featured." Here are a few things this article would need, in my opinion, before it reached "featured article" status. #Images. All featured articles have appropriate and informative pictures. I've heard it rumored that one can find images relating to this topic on the internet, though I wouldn't know, myself. #External links. There might possibly be a site or two devoted to this topic on the internet. User:Quadell – User:Quadell (User_talk:Quadell) (User:Quadell/Request for assistance)
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