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''American Idol'' is a television show featured on the Fox Broadcasting Company in the United States, based on the popular United Kingdom show ''Pop Idol''. The show is a competition in which viewers can call in and vote on contestants to determine the best "undiscovered" young singer in the United States, with the winner receiving a major record deal, although some runners-up have achieved enough fame to ink record deals of their own.
American Idol is produced by Fremantle North America which is owned by German Bertelsmann AG.
Each contestant gets a contract by one Bertelsmann's many music labels because Bertelsmann owns a 50/50 stake in Sony BMG.
== Overview ==
===Early auditions===
In the show, hosted by Ryan Seacrest, hopeful contestants, after being screened by preliminary panels which select for singing talent or humorous potential and human interest, audition before three judges (Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul, and Randy Jackson) in cities across the United States (sometimes a celebrity fourth judge is added). These are generally held at large convention centers where thousands of people wait in line for auditions. In order to be eligible, the contestants are not permitted to have any current recording or talent management agreements (but may have had one at some point in the past). Based on turnout and availability, producers select a certain number from the crowd to audition before the three judges (this may take several rounds). Contestants are required to sing ''a cappella''. Those who impress a majority of the judges move on to the second round auditions which take place in Hollywood (typically only several dozen out of the thousands in each city move on). The contestants selected despite lack of singing talent for appearance before the panel provide a major attraction to the viewing audience as they simultaneously proclaim their talent while turning out gut-wrenching performances which are ridiculed by the judges.
One of the most popular portions of each season are initial episodes showcasing ''American Idol'' hopefuls auditioning before the panel of judges. These early episodes focus mainly on the poorest performances from contestants who often appear oblivious to their lack of star talent. These "contestants" have been selected by the preliminary panels in a negative sense, a typical combination is lack of singing ability combined with vanity regarding their "talent." Others are selected for human interest potential, the 2005 auditions featured a "cannibal" who had sampled human flesh in an anthropology class and an aspiring female prize fighter. Poor singers often face intense and humbling criticism from the judges, and especially from Cowell, who can be harsh and blunt in his rejections. Typically the judges express disgust or dismay or suppressed laughter. Some poor performances have attained notoriety on their own; these have included season two's performance of Madonna (entertainer)'s "Like a Virgin" by Keith Beukelaer and season three's rendition of Ricky Martin's "She Bangs" by William Hung.
Contestants must be U.S. citizens and, for the first three seasons, had to be 16 to 24 years of age. For the fourth season, the upper age limit was raised to 28 to attract more mature and diverse contestants. In early 2003, a 50-year-old college professor named Drew Cummings filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, charging the show with age discrimination because producers denied him an audition due to his age. His case was not taken up by the EEOC.
===On to Hollywood===
Once in Hollywood, the three judges narrow the initial field of several hundred down to a group of 24 semifinalists, divided equally between men and women, who are invited to perform in the live portions of the show. On three consecutive weeks, the male semifinalists perform only against the other men, and the women only against the other women. Each contestant performs live (in the Eastern Standard Time Zone and Central Standard Time Zone), in primetime, a song of his or her choice, and receives critiques from the judges, who, from this point on, serve almost entirely in an advisory capacity, with little direct influence on the results.
Viewers have two hours following the broadcast of the show in their time zone to phone in votes for their favorite contestant by calling a toll-free number (viewers may also send short message service to vote). Callers are allowed to vote as many times as they like for any number of contestants. On the following night's episode the results of the nationwide vote are announced, and the bottom two vote-getters are eliminated each week. At the end of the semifinal rounds, the six men and six women who remain advance to the finals.
During the middle seasons, the semifinal round consisted of 32 semifinalists who were divided into four groups of eight. In the first season, they were 30 contestants, divided into three groups of ten. Each week for four (three for season one) weeks, one group would perform with the top two (three for season one) vote-getters from each group advancing to the finals. When all the semifinal shows had been completed, there was a wildcard phase. Each judge chose one semifinalist to advance to the final round, and a studio audience vote determined the final wildcard spot, rounding out the field of twelve finalists. In season 1, 5 contestants were chosen, and judges chose one to advance to the finals. This was changed to the procedure (see above) in the 4th season due to the abundace of females (and no males left in the final 4) in the third season.
Semifinalists (and in some cases, other contestants as well) must submit to background checks and may be summarily disqualified for past behavior deemed undesirable, such as an arrest record. Several finalists have been disqualified for revelations that surfaced late in the competition. Semifinalists are also subjected to drug tests, in order to avoid scandals involving drug usage. Contestants who failed the test have not been allowed to proceed in the competion.
Also contestants are contracted to be "conclaved" from the outside world. This stops contestants from using cell phones (unless between family members or during an emergency), the Internet (especially chatting and message boards), leaving the Hollywood jurisdiction, leaving their apartments without consent, watching TV (especially News and Sports), listening to radio stations, and reading newspapers during their duration in the competition. This is to keep the contestants safe from terrorists, epidemics, paparazzi, and to distance contestants from distractions that might be detrimental to their singing ability. The only time when a contestant can be free from this rule as if he or she gets voted out. They can however watch movies, since they have no known distracting effect on the contestants.
===Final twelve===
In the finals, which last eleven weeks, each finalist performs a song live in primetime from a weekly theme (two songs in later rounds). Themes have included Motown, disco, big band music, and ''Billboard magazine'' #1 hits. Some themes are based on music recorded by a particular artist, and the finalists have a chance to work with that artist in preparing their performances. Artists around whom themes have been based include Barry Manilow, Gloria Estefan, and Elton John.
When there are three finalists remaining, themes are no longer used. Instead, each contestant sings three songs: one of their own choice, one chosen by the judges, and one chosen by record executive Clive Davis. However in Season Two, in the final three, one song was chosen randomly from a bowl, with one chosen by the performer and one by the judges.
In any case, each week on the following night's live "results" episode, the contestant with the fewest votes is sent home. The bottom three vote-getters are separated from the remaining contestants. Over the course of the episode, two are revealed as being "safe" for the week, and the loser is sent home after performing one final song to end the episode. This process is repeated each week until the one remaining contestant is declared the winner.
== Spin-offs ==
A spin-off series called ''American Juniors'' premiered on June 3, 2003. In December 2003, winners of eleven different national ''Idol'' competitions were collected for a ''World Idol'' competition in London. Kelly Clarkson came in second after Norway's Kurt Nilsen.
== Season synopses ==
The number next to a contestant's name denotes the number of times he or she was in the "Bottom Three".
=== Season one ===
{| border="1" align ="right" cellpadding=3
|colspan="2" align=center|Season 1 Finalists ''(with dates of elimination)''
|-
| colspan=2 align=center|Season 1 (2002)
|- align=center
||Kelly Clarkson||''winner''
|- align=center
||Justin Guarini||September 4
|- align=center
||Nikki McKibbin||August 28
|- align=center
||Tamyra Gray||August 21
|- align=center
||RJ Helton||August 14
|- align=center
||Christina Christian||August 7
|- align=center
||Ryan Starr||July 31
|- align=center
||A.J. Gil||July 24
|- align=center
||Jim Verraros||July 17
|- align=center
||EJay Day||July 17
|}
In the first season the show was co-hosted by Seacrest and Brian Dunkleman. Kelly Clarkson won, with Justin Guarini coming in second. Numerous television specials starring the ten finalists followed, as well as the box office bomb entitled ''From Justin to Kelly''. Since winning, Clarkson has gone on to a successful musical career. Her first album ''Thankful'' debuted at #1, went double-platinum, and spawned the grammy-nominated hit "Miss Independent." Her sophomore album ''Breakaway'' debuted in November 2004 at #3 on the Billboard Charts. Since then it has sold nearly 2 million copies, and includes such hits as "Since U Been Gone" (#2 on Billboard) and "Breakaway" (#6 on Billboard).
{| cellpadding=2 cellspacing=6
|-bgcolor=#808080
|Date
|Theme
|colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Two (both eliminated)
|-
|July 17
|Motown
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|EJay Day
|bgcolor="#D6D6D6"|Jim Verraros
|-
|-
|
|
|bgcolor=#808080 colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Three
|-
|July 24
|1960s
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|A.J. Gil
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Ryan Starr
|Christina Christian
|-
|July 31
|1970s
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Ryan Starr (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Justin Guarini
|Nikki McKibbin
|-
|August 7
|Big band
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Christina Christian (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|RJ Helton
|Nikki McKibbin (2)
|-
|
|
|bgcolor=#808080 colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Two
|-
|August 14
|Love songs
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|RJ Helton (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Nikki McKibbin (3)
|-
|August 21
|1980s & 1990s
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Tamyra Gray
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Nikki McKibbin (4)
|-
|August 28
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Nikki McKibbin (5)
|-
|September 4
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|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Justin Guarini (2)
|bgcolor="lime"|Kelly Clarkson
|}
=== Season two ===
{| border="1" align ="right" cellpadding=3
|colspan="2" align=center|Season 2 (2003) Finalists ''(with dates of elimination)''
|-
|- align=center
||Ruben Studdard||''winner''
|- align=center
||Clay Aiken||May 21
|- align=center
||Kimberley Locke||May 14
|- align=center
||Joshua Gracin||May 7
|- align=center
||Trenyce||April 30
|- align=center
||Carmen Rasmusen||April 23
|- align=center
||Kimberly Caldwell||April 16
|- align=center
||Rickey Smith||April 9
|- align=center
||Corey Clark||disqualified, April 1
|- align=center
||Julia DeMato||March 26
|- align=center
||Charles Grigsby||March 19
|- align=center
||Vanessa Olivarez||March 12
|}
In season two with Seacrest as the lone host, Ruben Studdard was the winner with Clay Aiken as runner up. Out of 24 million votes cast, Studdard finished just 130,000 votes ahead of Aiken, although there remains controversy over the validity of the reported results. Despite Studdard's win, Aiken has enjoyed more widespread popularity. Controversy arose when semi-finalist Frenchie Davis was booted from the show, after topless pictures she had taken four years before the show aired surfaced. The rumor mills were buzzing once again in 2005 when Season Two contestant Corey Clark, who was himself kicked off the show because of a police record he had not disclosed to the show, alleged that he had had an affair with judge Paul Abdul. Clark also alleged that Abdul gave him preferential treatment on the show because of their alleged romance.
{| cellpadding=2 cellspacing=6
|-bgcolor=#808080
|Date
|Theme
|Guest Judge(s)
|colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Three
|-
|March 11
|Motown
|Lamont Dozier
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Vanessa Olivarez
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Julia DeMato
|Kimberley Locke
|-
|March 18
|Movie Songs
|Gladys Knight
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Charles Grigsby
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Corey Clark
|Julia DeMato (2)
|-
|March 25
|Country Music
|Olivia Newton-John
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Julia DeMato (3)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Kimberly Caldwell
|Rickey Smith
|-
|April 1
|Disco
|Verdine White
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Corey Clark (disqualified)
|-
|April 8
|Billboard #1 Hits
|Lionel Richie
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Rickey Smith (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Kimberly Caldwell (2)
|Kimberley Locke (2)
|-
|April 15
|Billy Joel
|Smokey Robinson
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Kimberly Caldwell (3)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Carmen Rasmusen
|Trenyce
|-
|April 22
|Diane Warren
|Diane Warren
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Carmen Rasmusen (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Trenyce (2)
|Joshua Gracin
|-
|
|
|
|bgcolor=#808080 colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Two
|-
|April 29
|Neil Sedaka
|Neil Sedaka
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Trenyce (3)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Ruben Studdard
|
|-
|May 6
|The Bee Gees
|Robin Gibb
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Joshua Gracin (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Kimberley Locke (3)
|
|-
|May 13
|
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Kimberley Locke (4)
|
|
|-
|May 20
|
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Clay Aiken
|bgcolor="lime"|Ruben Studdard
|
|}
Paul Anka made an appearance during the Season finale.
=== Season three ===
{| border="1" align ="right" cellpadding=3
|colspan="2" align=center|Season 3 Finalists ''(with dates of elimination)''
|- align=center
||Fantasia Barrino||''winner''
|- align=center
||Diana DeGarmo||May 26
|- align=center
||Jasmine Trias||May 19
|- align=center
||LaToya London||May 12
|- align=center
||George Huff||May 5
|- align=center
||John Stevens (singer)||April 28
|- align=center
||Jennifer Hudson||April 21
|- align=center
||Jon Peter Lewis||April 15
|- align=center
||Camile Velasco||April 7
|- align=center
||Amy Adams||March 31
|- align=center
||Matthew Rogers||March 24
|- align=center
||Leah LaBelle||March 17
|}
The third season of ''American Idol'' premiered on January 19, 2004. After a nationwide vote of more than 65 million votes in total, Fantasia Barrino won the "American Idol" title and Diana DeGarmo was runner up. During the season, controversy over the legitimacy of the contest increased as geeky rocker Jon Peter Lewis and young crooner John Stevens (singer) stayed afloat while others were unexpectedly eliminated. The third season was also shown in Australia on Network Ten about half a week after episodes were shown in the US.
{| cellpadding=2 cellspacing=6
|-bgcolor=#808080
|Date
|Theme
|Guest Judge(s)
|colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Three
|-
|March 17
|Soul music
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Leah Labelle
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Jennifer Hudson
|Amy Adams
|-
|March 24
|Country music
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Matthew Rogers
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Camile Velasco
|Diana DeGarmo
|-
|March 31
|Motown
|Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Amy Adams (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Jennifer Hudson (2)
|LaToya London
|-
|April 7
|Elton John
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Camile Velasco (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Jasmine Trias
|Diana DeGarmo (2)
|-
|April 15
|Soundtrack
|Quentin Tarantino
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Jon Peter Lewis
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|John Stevens
|Diana DeGarmo (3)
|-
|April 21
|Barry Manilow
|Barry Manilow
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Jennifer Hudson (3)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Fantasia Barrino
|LaToya London (2)
|-
|April 28
|Gloria Estefan
|Gloria Estefan
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|John Stevens (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|George Huff
|Jasmine Trias (2)
|-
|
|
|
|bgcolor=#808080 colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Two
|-
|May 5
|Big band
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|George Huff (2)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Jasmine Trias (3)
|
|-
|May 12
|Disco
|Donna Summer
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|LaToya London (3)
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Fantasia Barrino (2)
|
|-
|May 19
|
|Clive Davis
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Jasmine Trias (4)
|
|
|-
|May 26
|
|
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Diana DeGarmo (4)
|bgcolor="lime"|Fantasia Barrino
|
|}
Paul Anka made an appearance in the Season Finale.
=== Season four ===
{| border="1" align ="right" cellpadding=3
|colspan="2" align=center|Season 4 Finalists ''(with dates of elimination)''
|- align=center
|Carrie Underwood||''winner''
|- align=center
|Bo Bice||May 25
|- align=center
|Vonzell Solomon||May 18
|- align=center
|Anthony Fedorov||May 11
|- align=center
|Scott Savol||May 4
|- align=center
|Constantine Maroulis||April 27
|- align=center
|Anwar Robinson||April 20
|- align=center
|Nadia Turner||April 13
|- align=center
|Nikko Smith||April 6
|- align=center
|Jessica Sierra||March 30
|- align=center
|Mikalah Gordon||March 24
|- align=center
|Lindsey Cardinale||March 16
|}
The fourth season of ''American Idol'' premiered on January 182005. Auditions were held in Washington, DC, St. Louis, Missouri, New Orleans, Louisiana, Las Vegas, Nevada, Cleveland, Ohio, Orlando, Florida and San Francisco, California. Auditions were held from August to October2004. While in the past seasons celebrity guest judges have been invited to participate during the competition, this was the first season where guest judges were invited to participate in the auditions. The music celebrities featured were:
* January 18, Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray
* January 25, Gene Simmons of KISS (band)
* January 26, Kenny Loggins
* February 1, LL Cool J
* February 2, Brandy Norwood
Among the music featured in the program: on January 192005, "Look At Me" written by Sara Hickman and performed by her 8-year-old daughter Lily (from the album Big Kid).
The most notable contestant in the early episodes was Mary Roach, who auditioned in Washington D.C. Her rendition of Carole King's "I Feel The Earth Move", as well as her comments to the judges that followed her audition, brought considerable negative attention (including false rumors of mental illness) and comparisons to William Hung.
Also noted was Leroy Wells from Grand Bay, Alabama who auditioned in New Orleans singing Ol' Dirty Bastard's "Got Your Money". He acquired mild fame by repeatedly yelling, "Can you dig it?" to the judges and for the inability of the judges to fully understand him.
This season also implemented new rules for the final portion of the contest. Instead of competing in semifinal heats in which the top vote-getters are promoted to the final round, 24 semifinalists were named -- 12 men and 12 women, who competed separately, with 2 of each gender being voted off each week until 12 finalists were left.
Mario Vazquez, who was originally one of the top 12, dropped out of the competition on March 11, just days before the top 12's first performance, citing "personal issues," opening a spot in the final 12 for Nikko Smith, who had been voted off in the semi-finals the previous week.
The winner was Carrie Underwood, the first winner since Kelly Clarkson to not only win but avoid being in the bottom two or three for the entire competition.
{| cellpadding=2 cellspacing=6
|-bgcolor=#808080
|Date
|Theme
|colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Three
|-
|March 16
|1960s music
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Lindsey Cardinale
|bgcolor="#F0F0F0"|Mikalah Gordon
|Jessica Sierra
|-
|March 24
|Billboard magazine
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Mikalah Gordon (2)
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Nadia Turner
|Anthony Fedorov
|-
|March 30
|1990s music
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Jessica Sierra (2)
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Anwar Robinson
|Nadia Turner (2)
|-
|April 6
|Musicals
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Nikko Smith
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Scott Savol
|Vonzell Solomon
|-
|April 13
|Music from year of birth
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Nadia Turner (3)
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Bo Bice
|Scott Savol (2)
|-
|April 20
|Disco
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Anwar Robinson (2)
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Anthony Fedorov (2)
|Scott Savol (3)
|-
|April 27
|2000s music
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Constantine Maroulis
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Anthony Fedorov (3)
|Vonzell Solomon (2)
|-
|
|
|bgcolor=#808080 colspan="3" align="center"|Bottom Two
|-
|May 4
|Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller/Billboard magazine Top 40
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Scott Savol (4)
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Anthony Fedorov (4)
|
|-
|May 11
|NashvilleCountry music/Gamble and Huff
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Anthony Fedorov (5)
|bgcolor="F0F0F0"|Vonzell Solomon (3)
|
|-
|May 18
|Clive Davis' choice/Contestant's choice/Judge's choice
|bgcolor="C0C0C0"|Vonzell Solomon (4)
|
|-
|May 25
|Finale
|bgcolor="#C0C0C0"|Bo Bice (2)
|bgcolor="lime"|Carrie Underwood
|}
For the May 18 final three show, a guest judge, legendary record producer Clive Davis was added. He chose the first song each performer would sing, many of which he produced in his career. The second song the performers chose any song from any era. In an unprecented move, Bo Bice performed his choice completely ''a cappella''. For the third and final song of the night, one of the standard judges (Jackson, Abdul or Cowell) chose each contestant's selection. Vonzell Solomon was the 10th contestant voted off the Top 12 on Wednesday May 18th.
The fourth season finale featuring Bo Bice and Carrie Underwood aired May 24-May 25. It featured appearances by former auditioners of questionable talent, and celebrity cameos by Kenny G, Rascal Flatts, David Hasselhoff, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, George Benson, Billy Preston, Babyface and Lynyrd Skynyrd. The winner of the competition was Carrie Underwood.
=== Season five ===
The fifth season of ''American Idol'' will be held starting in January2006 with auditions expected to be in the summer and early autumn of 2005.
As of now, the current list of cities (tentative) are Atlanta, Georgia, Austin, Texas, Boston, Massachusetts, Chicago, Illinois, Denver, Colorado, Memphis, Tennessee and San Diego, California. One or two more cities may also be added later as there are usually late additions to the list.
== Releases ==
* ''American Idol Greatest Moments'' (2002 in music)
* ''American Idol Season 2: All Time Classic American Love Songs'' (2003 in music)
* ''American Idol: The Great Holiday Classics'' (2003)
* "God Bless The U.S.A." (single) (2003)
*"What the World Needs Now" (single) (2003)
*''American Idol Season 3: Greatest Soul Classics'' (2004 in music)
*''American Idol Season 4: The Showstoppers'' (2005 in music)
==Imitations==
This series has been imitated by many other shows, among them ''Cupid'', ''Superstar USA'' and ''Nashville Star'' (hosted by LeAnn Rimes). Only ''Nashville Star'' still remains as a returning series and is the most popular.
== See also ==
*''Star Search''
*''Superstar USA''
*''Teen Idol''
*''America's Most Talented Kid''
== External links ==
*[http://www.idolonfox.com/ ''American Idol'' Official Website]
*[http://idolforums.com/index.php?act=idx IdolForums.com]
*[http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11274,00.html E! Online Story on Frenchie Davis]
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==Removed rant==
''Removed lengthy rant unrelated to the actual article - Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not'' - User:Rdash | User_talk:Rdash 16:40, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)
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==Too early?==
Isn't it a bit early to be adding information on season five? --68.221.173.115, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)
:Not now. ;-) Actually, it looks like the information added was already released to the public before the show started airing. User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 16:21, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)
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==New judge==
Does anyone know who the new judge is? I missed the first 15 minutes of the debut show last night where I assume they introduced him. The official AI website doesn't mention him at all. Also, will he be with the show the entire season or just for the auditions? Regardless, if anyone know anything about him, he should be mentioned in the article. User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 16:21, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)
==The dark side==
The material added on negative selection of ridiculous contestants is derived from a New York Times editorial criticising the show for sadism, http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/23/opinion/23sun2.html?ex=1107488248. A few examples are from watching the show. User:Fred Bauder 14:35, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
==Jumped the gun==
The "Once in Hollywood" section describes the procedure introduced this season as if it were present in all seasons. This needs to be noted as the procedure for season 4, with a description of the previous semifinal sequence (which was drastically different) mentioned. Also, if I understand correctly, these aren't the finals per se, as that is reserved for when the performers start playing on the big stage, instead of the small studio. Should the table be modified to only include the final 12, since that's the cutoff point used for the other seasons? User:Mo0[User Talk:Mo0] 03:42, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== Information False ==
There is false information in this listing. The two eliminations/week is only for the semifinals. Additionally, male/females only compete separately in the semifinals. --User:68.196.67.33
:Then correct it. Be bold! :-) User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 15:41, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
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==Perform after elimination==
Why is it they make the contestants perform right after eliminating them? Have you ever tried to sing right after having your heart ripped out? This has always bothered me... ? User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 15:41, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
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==Lost count==
should something be mentioned about how today, on March 23, due to human error, they lost all of yesterday's or whenever's votes and had to redo it all? I don't think it's ever happened before to them so it might be something interesting to add to the article. I don't ever watch the show ever really so I don't know what might be considered important enough to add to the main article.
--User:12.227.128.254
:I think yes. Actually as I watched the show last night, I thought this event should be added to the article. First, and hopefully last, time this has ever happened. Interesting information. :-)
:BTW, sign your posts. You can do this with 3 or 4 tildes (~~~ or ~~~~). The latter is preferred since it also adds a time stamp. User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 16:06, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
==Disqualified Contestants==
Shouldn't something here be added about the habit of the producers for eliminating/disqualifying contestants for various reasons? EX: the first season a young man was elminated due to an outstanding warrant for his arrest, and I believe it was the second season when fan-favourite Frenchie Davis was diqualified for performing on pornographic websites. Ironically she has gone on to greater success than MANY of the other contestants. User:Pacian 09:28, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, feel free to add it. Just be NPOV about it. :-) User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 15:22, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)----
==Table==
Is it just me, or does the "American Idol Finalists (with dates of elimination)" table bother anyone else? I think the information in it is great, but it's placement leaves a lot to be desired. To find the contestents for the current season, one must scroll way up. This is unnecessary—the lists should be adjacent to the seasons they pertain to. Unless anyone objects, I'm going to split up the table and make them part of the seasons they pertain to. Any comments? User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 19:21, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
:As far as I'm concerned, that makes far more sense than the current layout. What about including song lists? Is that simply redundant information, since it's available on [http://www.idolonfox.com Idolonfox]? I think it would be nice to have that information collected in this article. User:Hermione1980 00:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As long as they can be added without making the article look cluttered, I'd say go for it. It'd be good to have the information here since we don't know how long Fox will keep that info up. I'll go ahead with the table splits soon. User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 14:30, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
:User:Hermione1980/Table experiments is what I've come up with for the song list, for season four. Any comments? User:Hermione1980 22:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Now that I see them, I can't see how they can be added to the main article without cluttering it. I think it'd be great as a seperate linked article (e.g. American Idol Season Four songs or some such thing). How are you organizing the singers? By their first names? I think it'd be even more useful if you organized them by the order they performed, though this isn't a huge deal. Nice job, they look good! User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 18:11, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
:I have the order they sang in for the finals, I think, so I can modify the table to reflect that. I don't have the performance order for the other seasons, though, so someone would have to leave that information on my User talk:Hermione1980. I would be happy to do something similar for the other seasons, if I can get the information.
:One thought: instead of just putting the song list in a separate article, should each season get its own page? That would maybe avoid the problem of taking the song list "out of context". I don't know if that's a problem in this case or not. User:Hermione1980 21:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Making articles for each season might make sense. I don't know, this article is getting pretty long. I say "yes," but let's wait for others to chime in. User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 14:13, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
== vfd of idol contestant article ==
Editors of this article might want to register their opinion regarding Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/A.J. Gil. User:Gamaliel 01:25, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
And while you're at it, you could also look at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/EJay Day. User:Hermione1980 21:52, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
And Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Kimberly Caldwell. User:Gamaliel 02:36, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
:EJay Day and Kimberly Caldwell got expanded very well after facing possible deletion, but A.J. Gil has remained a stub. Does he have any fans around to expand his entry? User:Dtobias 03:06, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
== Correct me if I'm wrong... ==
...but wasn't the 13,000 vote difference between Clay and Ruben a mistake by the person who wrote the card for Ryan Seacrest? As I remember the events, he later stated that there was a mistake and that the difference between them was a mere 1300 votes. This is part of the reason for the heavy controversy of the issue, as it falls well within the margin for error.
== Individual season articles? ==
The recent vfd discussions have gotten me thinking. Perhaps we should take a cue from The Apprentice articles and have breakout articles for each season. The articles for the lesser known contestants could be folded into the individual seasons with articles for those having genuine success in the industry remaining as they are. We could also clear the main article of some of the long charts and lists and get into the week to week dynamics of each season without crowding out the important info in the main article. Any thoughts on this idea? User:Gamaliel 08:47, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
:We already discussed this in the "Table" discussion above. I thought it was a good idea, as did User:Hermione1980 who suggested it. But no one else responded. If no one object within a few days, I say go for it. :-) User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 17:14, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
== "Conclaving" of Contestants ==
I just cleaned up some of the wording in the "On to Hollywood" section, and the information on conclaving seems a bit suspect. Does anyone know the actual rules for contestants at this stage? Doe it make more sense just to eliminate this section?
== Additional articles ==
Should the well-known eliminated semifinalists (and other well-known contestants) have articles as well?
:Only if enough can be said about them to make a legitimate article. That doesn't include pure stats like where they auditioned, how old there were, where they were from and when they were eliminated. I'd say that'd eliminate about 99% of them.
:BTW, sign your posts. You can do this with 3 or 4 tildes (~~~ or ~~~~). The latter is preferred since it also adds a time stamp. User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 14:26, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
== Move to delete ==
This is not informative nor educational, and wikipedia doesn't have the space to spare to use on pointless pop culture.
:Speak for yourself. I haven't heard of Wikipedia being anywhere near running out of server space, and American Idol, as "pointless" as it may be on a larger cultural scale, is of some significance and interest to contemporary American pop culture. User:Dtobias 23:49, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
:Second User:Dtobias. Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not paper. If you simply feel you must nominate it for deletion, follow the proper procedure outlined at WP:VFD. User:Hermione1980User talk:Hermione1980 00:00, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
:I object, the public has the right to know about American Idol because it has gained an important place in television history. It has helped discover unknown talented people and there are indeed other articles on this site that pertain to pop culture. User:Sfufan2005 00:09, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
::Since when is pop culture pointless? ;-) User:Frecklefoot— User:Frecklefoot | User talk:Frecklefoot 13:51, May 27, 2005 (UTC)